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Peter King Wants Texans Fans To Give Him the Verbal Beatdown

Thanks everyone for all the good reads. We have a very passionate fan base! Think about how awesome it will feel when our boys get into the playoffs, especially after all of the hardships that we, as Houston football fans, have faced.

Screw the King's and the ESPiN's of the world. We know who we are and where we come from! TEXANS FANS REPRESENT!

texanpride
 
Face it, people. We don't deserve to be mentioned with the Cardinals, but Peter King isn't that far off. Yes, the Texans have a handful of die hard fans, myself included, but overall, our fan base is pretty weak.

We may have great tailgating, but we have a long way to go.

Take a look around the stadium at kickoff. You'll see many THOUSANDS of empty seats, even at a sold out game. The fact of the matter is that the Texans have a huge season ticket holder base that just don't care that much about football or the Texans. Hopefully that will change as the Texans start racking up wins and playoff appearances, but for now, it is what is.

I was at the Texans-Bears game at Soldier Field when it was 9 freakin' degrees at kickoff with a 20 MPH wind. The wind chill was below zero. There wasn't an empty seat in the house when the game started. Bears fans would be emabarrassed to have fans like the Texans. The same can be said for the stadium crowds I've witnessed at home games by the Chiefs, Jets, Dolphins, Bills, and Rams, not an empty seat in the house at kickoff.

Need proof? I'm headed to games in KC (vs. Saints) and Green Bay (vs. Texans) this year. I'll take some pics at Reliant during the home opener and see how they compare to other NFL stadiums.

bpe3
 
Shaft75 said:
Thanks everyone for all the good reads. We have a very passionate fan base! Think about how awesome it will feel when our boys get into the playoffs, especially after all of the hardships that we, as Houston football fans, have faced.

Screw the King's and the ESPiN's of the world. We know who we are and where we come from! TEXANS FANS REPRESENT!

texanpride
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Indeed we have passionate fans........ Well, except for that dang section 137.. *ducks punches from Shaft*

:hides:
 
Kaiser Toro - You my friend have brought a tear to my eye. I wish what I wrote was as eloquent and heart felt as that. If I could rep you I would. This is hands down the best post I have ever read on any message board. Kudos my friend, kudos.

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To plagiarize Texan_Bill:

Dear Mr. King,

Please disregard my previous email because Kaiser Toro said it much, much better!!

Papa L
 
Texan_Bill said:
Indeed we have passionate fans........ Well, except for that dang section 137.. *ducks punches from Shaft*

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:aggressive:
Come on Bill you freakin :lion: !

Seriously I love reading all of these e-mails. I have spread too much rep for the day allready. I will get back to it in 24 hours.
 
bpe3 said:
Face it, people. We don't deserve to be mentioned with the Cardinals, but Peter King isn't that far off. Yes, the Texans have a handful of die hard fans, myself included, but overall, our fan base is pretty weak.

We may have great tailgating, but we have a long way to go.

Take a look around the stadium at kickoff. You'll see many THOUSANDS of empty seats, even at a sold out game. The fact of the matter is that the Texans have a huge season ticket holder base that just don't care that much about football or the Texans. Hopefully that will change as the Texans start racking up wins and playoff appearances, but for now, it is what is.

I was at the Texans-Bears game at Soldier Field when it was 9 freakin' degrees at kickoff with a 20 MPH wind. The wind chill was below zero. There wasn't an empty seat in the house when the game started. Bears fans would be emabarrassed to have fans like the Texans. The same can be said for the stadium crowds I've witnessed at home games by the Chiefs, Jets, Dolphins, Bills, and Rams, not an empty seat in the house at kickoff.

Need proof? I'm headed to games in KC (vs. Saints) and Green Bay (vs. Texans) this year. I'll take some pics at Reliant during the home opener and see how they compare to other NFL stadiums.

bpe3
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That's what I have been trying to say. It's nothing to be all angry over, it just comes with time and winning. The teams you and I mentioned, have a winning tradition, the franchise never relocated, and was established during a different economic era. Just the nature of what is going on at this particular time.:goodpost:
 
Well, here's what I sent, not nearly as good as some of the others.....but it was heartfelt! :texflag:


Dear Mr. King,

It has been brought to my attention as well as several other Hardcore fans of the Houston Texans that you claim that we have no passion for our team. What could possibly be your barometer on tens of thousands of fans so far away.....you know in a land called "reality"? Perhaps you have heard of it and visit there occasionally but it seems you have not taken the time to look around. Do you keep tabs on the Texans, do you research how the team is progressing under Kubiak/Smith? (I will throw you a bone, that's our Head Coach and GM) I suspect that you don’t care to know and it is evident in your misguided jab at so many people. Talk about the mother of all assumptions, pretending to have your hand on the pulse of Texans nation and being so smug to say we are not passionate. Please don't bother to let good ole facts and research get in your way of mis-leading both of your readers. Garbage in/ garbage out as they say. Your unfounded accusation reeks of East coast bias, something us here in Houston have grown accustomed to and know how to look past. Rest assured Mr. King, your comments only give us more reason to unite and strengthen our resolve to prove all the nay-saying, mindless dribble that pollutes the blog-o-sphere is simply no more than mean spirited conjecture.

All this being said, if you ever get the metal to come down to Houston on a fall Sunday and check out the situation for yourself, we would treat you like we do opposing fans who visit our tailgates. What my surprise is you that equates to free beverages, free food, fun discussion, and friendly banter. We show hospitality to our guests, (maybe it's that good ole Southern upbringin') and we also show nothing but immeasurable PASSION for our team!


Sincerely,
Paul
Native Texan and PROUD fan of the Houston Texans!

P.S. Your favorite team sucks.
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bpe3 said:
Face it, people. We don't deserve to be mentioned with the Cardinals, but Peter King isn't that far off. Yes, the Texans have a handful of die hard fans, myself included, but overall, our fan base is pretty weak.
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ESPN says that we are ranked 12th in average attendance in 2007. Not bad for a team that has never had a winning season in it's history. I have to wonder how dedicated those other fans in the cities you mentioned would be if their team had never won more games than they lost.

p.s. I am assuming that ESPN is using the term "attendance" as it's defined in the dictionary.

p.p.s. You mentioned the Bills and their fans. Is that why they are exporting some of their home games to Canada this year?
 
Double Barrel said:
ESPN says that we are ranked 12th in average attendance in 2007. Not bad for a team that has never had a winning season in it's history. I have to wonder how dedicated those other fans in the cities you mentioned would be if their team had never won more games than they lost.

p.s. I am assuming that ESPN is using the term "attendance" as it's defined in the dictionary.

p.p.s. You mentioned the Bills and their fans. Is that why they are exporting some of their home games to Canada this year?
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If you sort it by % capacity, the Texans rank 8th

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The one point bpe makes that irks me to no end is the empty stands at kickoff. When I turn on the TV and see the empty seats, my blood boils. Folks, as TC said, get your asses in your seat by noon PLEASE! Is that too much to ask? This isn't the opera, and arriving fashinably late won't get you noticed by the upper crust.

The problem isn't the passion of the fans, it's the passion of the fans who own the tickets in the lower bowl. All the bigshot lawyers and other monied interests who get the tickets to impress their client or give it as favors to the top seller in the real estate office. These people have about as much passion for the Texans as I do for my dentist.

And as long as the prices of the tickets remain where they are at, that's where it is going to stay. Preaching to the choir isn't an answer. Changing those ticket holders for the REAL fans of the Texans is. Unfortunetly, I don't see Mr. Mcnair too eager to trade the size of his wallet for a full stadium at kick off.
 
Here is mine:

Mr. King,

I am unsure as to whether or not I have ever read quite so ignorant of a blanket statement as you have made about my Houston Texans. Sure, our team has had its ups and downs, or mostly downs over the last six years. But DO NOT ever question the passion of our fan base. We Texans are strongly attached to our football team as our last one, whose name will not be mentioned, was taken away from us by the Possum King. I strongly believe you must have never attended a game here. Walk around the tailgates. Catch a game in the Bull Pen. Check out the consecutive sellouts at Reliant. Our Houston fans love our team.

Perhaps you simply want fans to be rude and angry. Well here you go: Mr King, what you have just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever read. Ok nevermind Mr. King. I just don't have it in me to keep on telling you how crazy and uninformed your statement was about my Texans.

All I will say is this: I know how passionate my fellow Texans are about our team. I know we have been willing to stick it out with our team through some of the roughest times of any organization in the league. And just wait until you see how passionate our fans can be when that first playoff game rolls around for us. I know our passion but at that point, you will see just how crazy us Texans really are.

Cody
I'm a Texan!
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After a bunch of the ones I have read, mine sucks. But hey, there is strength in numbers. Great emails everybody. :fans:
 
Double Barrel said:
ESPN says that we are ranked 12th in average attendance in 2007. Not bad for a team that has never had a winning season in it's history. I have to wonder how dedicated those other fans in the cities you mentioned would be if their team had never won more games than they lost.

p.s. I am assuming that ESPN is using the term "attendance" as it's defined in the dictionary.

p.p.s. You mentioned the Bills and their fans. Is that why they are exporting some of their home games to Canada this year?
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Texan_Bill said:
If you sort it by % capacity, the Texans rank 8th

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A lot of that has to do with how you draw on the raod. OK last year we had Atlanta, Jacksonville and the Raiders. For some odd reason, I guess it is the size of the stadium but Indy ranks dead last in home attendance averages, and they are on our schedule as well. Hell that is the two worst attendance home averages in the league; Oakland and Indy both under 60,000 in home average attendance. Not to mention that since the media does not mention the Houston Texans no name recognition and some people just will think oh it is the Texans easy win and figure it is a good day to make sure the wife is happy (or husband for you die hard ladies out there).

If you look at attendance at home we averaged 70,519 .. nax capacity, less the standing room only stuff.

If you look at road attendance .. 64,483 ranked dead last.

Overall attendance .. 67,501 rank 20th.

These are avg attendance numbers. We played some teams on the raod this past year that were not drawing well, and couple that with name recognition and star power of players, this is what you get.
 
I do have to say ticket sales and actual attendance are 2 different things..I know we do not have a full house every game, shoot, I see alot of blocks of empty seats every game. So sure, we sell out every game, but actual butts in seats, we do not.
It is what it is....and honestly, I couldn't care less if there are 20K or 70K, I am there and the other die hards are there as well. We know the reason we cheer the team on, and we are passionate about it as well.
For those who chose to come in late, or not at all, that is your choice, as you paid for your ticket as we did, but if you are the ones who think because you have had those seats since day #1, that you are really a fan of the team, think again. Fans stop what they are doing to cheer the players on from the get go..Fans go inside even if it means putting down the free beers and food..Fans stay til the final gun sounds, not caring if the post game tailgate has started yet without them..
I thought about writing PK, then I thought, why waste my time...if you don't get it, then you just don't get it !!
 
Specnatz said:
A lot of that has to do with how you draw on the raod. OK last year we had Atlanta, Jacksonville and the Raiders. For some odd reason, I guess it is the size of the stadium but Indy ranks dead last in home attendance averages, and they are on our schedule as well. Hell that is the two worst attendance home averages in the league; Oakland and Indy both under 60,000 in home average attendance. Not to mention that since the media does not mention the Houston Texans no name recognition and some people just will think oh it is the Texans easy win and figure it is a good day to make sure the wife is happy (or husband for you die hard ladies out there).

If you look at attendance at home we averaged 70,519 .. nax capacity, less the standing room only stuff.

If you look at road attendance .. 64,483 ranked dead last.

Overall attendance .. 67,501 rank 20th.

These are avg attendance numbers. We played some teams on the raod this past year that were not drawing well, and couple that with name recognition and star power of players, this is what you get.
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Who cares about road attendance?? Are we going to those games? We are talking about Houston Texan fans and our passion. It's not our fault that Jacksonville had to get permission to tarp off about 15,000 seats and still have a hard time selling out....
 
I sent the following to him:

Mr. King, talk about showing your ignorance....in your redskinblog about our Houston Texans.....What do you know about our team? Have you ever said anything based on knowledge? I think not. Obviously, to say we have no passion I would presume that you weren't at our Thursday night game last year against the Bronco's, Battle Red Day. Our stadium was lit up red, the air outside was charged with electricity unlike anything you have probably ever experienced. When walking into the stadium the noise was deafening. Everyone was on their feet. Upon entering your seats, looking down at the field, there was our team, OUR Houston Texans, all in BATTLE RED, as our quarterback scored in the first 5 minutes of the game. Denver was history. They were mutilated and stomped by the likes of OUR Mario Williams, not Reggie Bush. Our second string quarterback led our team to victory one play at a time, not Vince Young.

This is just a sample of the passion that us fans have. This goes on every week, whether we are at a home game in Reliant Stadium or in a sportsbar or friends house when we are out of town. We bleed battle red, steel blue, and liberty white. So we take great offense at your obvious ignorance about our team and our passion. Next time, do your homework before you open your mouth.
 
ESPN says that we are ranked 12th in average attendance in 2007.
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As already touched on above. In NFL parlance, "attendance" means tickets sold and credentials (press, concessions, employees, security. etc.) issued, not bodies in the stadium. The Texas are great at selling seats, they just aren't great at getting people to actually watch a football game.

The Club Level is a joke. 75% of people holding very expensive club level tickets would rather stand around the Spur Bar or the Star Bar sipping cocktails and chit chatting rather than watching the football game going on only a 100 yards away. Honestly, I just don't get these people. Why not just go to a sports bar? Oh wait, there's no sports bar with a $250/person cover charge to keep the riff raff (aka people like us) out. Maybe River Oaks Country Club or Houston Polo Club should start a semi-private game watching party so the Club Level seats can filter down to some actual fans.

Even worse, I can't tell you how many Texan "fans" I spoken to who have "bragged" about going to Club Level even though they had seats elsewhere in the stadium. In my opinion it's sort of like bragging about your family member who's in the pokey for running a meth lab, but to each his own. The problem is that for each of these club level crashers, and there are a lot of them, there's a seat elsewhere in the stadium going to waste.

Oh well. Maybe things will be differnt in 10-20 years. I'm not going anywhere.

bpe3
 
Specnatz said:
If you look at attendance at home we averaged 70,519 .. nax capacity, less the standing room only stuff.

If you look at road attendance .. 64,483 ranked dead last.

Overall attendance .. 67,501 rank 20th.

These are avg attendance numbers. We played some teams on the raod this past year that were not drawing well, and couple that with name recognition and star power of players, this is what you get.
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Well, when Indy doesn't even hold 60,000 and J-ville is covering up half their stadium, and those PASSIONATE Raider fans can only gather 49,000 for a game, it's hard to get that road average up.

49,000? I'd just about bet anything the Texans NEVER have a game attendance/tickets sold that low. EVER!
 
bpe3 said:
As already touched on above. In NFL parlance, "attendance" means tickets sold and credentials (press, concessions, employees, security. etc.) issued, not bodies in the stadium. The Texas are great at selling seats, they just aren't great at getting people to actually watch a football game.

The Club Level is a joke. 75% of people holding very expensive club level tickets would rather stand around the Spur Bar or the Star Bar sipping cocktails and chit chatting rather than watching the football game going on only a 100 yards away. Honestly, I just don't get these people. Why not just go to a sports bar? Oh wait, there's no sports bar with a $250/person cover charge to keep the riff raff (aka people like us) out. Maybe River Oaks Country Club or Houston Polo Club should start a semi-private game watching party so the Club Level seats can filter down to some actual fans.

Even worse, I can't tell you how many Texan "fans" I spoken to who have "bragged" about going to Club Level even though they had seats elsewhere in the stadium. In my opinion it's sort of like bragging about your family member who's in the pokey for running a meth lab, but to each his own. The problem is that for each of these club level crashers, and there are a lot of them, there's a seat elsewhere in the stadium going to waste.

Oh well. Maybe things will be differnt in 10-20 years. I'm not going anywhere.

bpe3
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Those "fans" up in club level that are not in their seats, are questionable.....I think that whole level is somewhat of a joke, other than during rodeo. We have seats in 119, and even before the "roof policy" we were sitting there every game.. Those seats in Club are mostly empty. I have access to a couple of seats up there, and I won't sit there. I want to be down with the fans and all the noise. And I don't want anyone telling me to be quiet or sit down when something big happens. Our section is loud and that is how I like it. We are on the end with the Bull pen. How many days left, 11????
 
pittbull3 said:
That's what I have been trying to say. It's nothing to be all angry over, it just comes with time and winning. The teams you and I mentioned, have a winning tradition, the franchise never relocated, and was established during a different economic era. Just the nature of what is going on at this particular time.:goodpost:
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I kind of agree. I wonder if we kept the Oiler history (but still had the players/coaches/staff we do now), that our stadium would be full at kickoff.

Still, Texans are in the top-half in the league in terms of attendance.

Specnatz said:
A lot of that has to do with how you draw on the raod. OK last year we had Atlanta, Jacksonville and the Raiders. For some odd reason, I guess it is the size of the stadium but Indy ranks dead last in home attendance averages, and they are on our schedule as well. Hell that is the two worst attendance home averages in the league; Oakland and Indy both under 60,000 in home average attendance. Not to mention that since the media does not mention the Houston Texans no name recognition and some people just will think oh it is the Texans easy win and figure it is a good day to make sure the wife is happy (or husband for you die hard ladies out there).

If you look at attendance at home we averaged 70,519 .. nax capacity, less the standing room only stuff.

If you look at road attendance .. 64,483 ranked dead last.

Overall attendance .. 67,501 rank 20th.

These are avg attendance numbers. We played some teams on the raod this past year that were not drawing well, and couple that with name recognition and star power of players, this is what you get.
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Don't forget size of the stadium (for Indy). They sellout every game. It's going to shoot up for them this year.
 
Porky said:
The problem isn't the passion of the fans, it's the passion of the fans who own the tickets in the lower bowl. .... These people have about as much passion for the Texans as I do for my dentist...... Changing those ticket holders for the REAL fans of the Texans is.
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I own tickets in the lower bowl, and I know a lot of other people in here do as well. I'd be careful with the broad brush.
 
Porky said:
The one point bpe makes that irks me to no end is the empty stands at kickoff. When I turn on the TV and see the empty seats, my blood boils. Folks, as TC said, get your asses in your seat by noon PLEASE! Is that too much to ask? This isn't the opera, and arriving fashinably late won't get you noticed by the upper crust.

The problem isn't the passion of the fans, it's the passion of the fans who own the tickets in the lower bowl. All the bigshot lawyers and other monied interests who get the tickets to impress their client or give it as favors to the top seller in the real estate office. These people have about as much passion for the Texans as I do for my dentist.

And as long as the prices of the tickets remain where they are at, that's where it is going to stay. Preaching to the choir isn't an answer. Changing those ticket holders for the REAL fans of the Texans is. Unfortunetly, I don't see Mr. Mcnair too eager to trade the size of his wallet for a full stadium at kick off.
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Again! That is what I'm saying Porky. The economics of the game have changed. The corporations own most of those lower bowl seats and the blue collar guy, who IS more passionate watches at home. This is what TICKED me off to no end. I had seats around me that were either empty, or a new shmoe each week, with no Texans gear, drinking all day, up and down in his seat to take a leak, and the list goes on. I can't stand those type of fans. With Peter King, I think this is more his reference.....:thinking:
 
pittbull3 said:
Again! That is what I'm saying Porky. The economics of the game have changed. The corporations own most of those lower bowl seats and the blue collar guy, who IS more passionate watches at home. This is what TICKED me off to no end. I had seats around me that were either empty, or a new shmoe each week, with no Texans gear, drinking all day, up and down in his seat to take a leak, and the list goes on. I can't stand those type of fans. With Peter King, I think this is more his reference.....:thinking:
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You are giving him too much credit. He grouped us all together, low bowl high bowl whatever as fans that lack passion.

Nick, the editor of HoustonTexans.com added this as a comment:

No problem. If Peter King actually said that (hopefully that Redskins blog is a reliable source), then I think he's seriously misinformed. I checked with our VP of Comm. and apparently Peter King has been to at least one Texans game at Reliant Stadium. It was the 2002 opener against the Dallas Cowboys. Just guessing (since I wasn't there), but I'd put $$$ down that there were some passionate Texans fans at that game.
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A very fun game shutting them fathead Cowboy fans up. Though not much like watching real NFL football. It was odd.

I enjoy reading the Football Perspectus, but it hasn't been until this last year where what we were seeing on the field really meant stuff statistically, like a real NFL team. Before there was so much messed up stuff it was hard to distinguish between various messed up stuff.

Everybody, keep on demonstrating the real passion Texans fans have for their team....send them emails in.

:texflag:

(I'm going to have limited email access over the next week, so if I don't keep commenting on this, that's the reason. I hope to find some interesting comment from King in my inbox).
 
I understand he grouped all together, but unfortunately, fans are never broken apart by fans/non-fans. The Philly fans are known for throwing things at "Satan Clause", the Oakland fans are known for the Black hole idiots that fight all day, the cleveland fans are known for throwing dog biscuits, when in reality, it was just the dog pound. You will always be grouped by association, if you call yourself a fan of a certain team, that has a national reputation, and the fans are recognized to be extremist or passive. Unfortunately, we are not known by the Passionate Bull Pen yet. The most passionate fans. The Bull Pen tends to be overshadowed by the 10,000 empty seats at game time, wuith those fans finishing up budweisers in the parking lot or pounding them away in the concourse level. Until we change that perception, perception becomes his reality. Even though we may feel or know different.:thinking:
 
Señor Stan;960867 said:
I'm starting to think that Johnsonfan was actually an LOLcat. I'm 90% sure of this.
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I think it might be someone's alternate personality.

Would it not be funny if it was Vinny? I can picture him at him LOL while writing all that crap just to mess with us.
 
Here's my email.

Mr. King,

You recently made a comment about the lack of passion shown by Houston Texans fans. You are assuming that because the fans don’t write to you and complain to you that we don’t care about our team. Have you come to experience a game at Reliant? Have you bonded with fellow Texans fans over brisket, corn on the cob, and cold Buds? Fans here don’t waste time writing to you whining about your hatred for us because we know that the national media doesn’t care enough about us to hate us. Yet. Our team has been ridiculed because we dared draft Mario Williams instead of the great media hyped Reggie Bush. We were a national joke because our QB was unable to stay upright. We have to listen to east coast bias about every move our organization makes. Continue as much as you want. I know that until the Texans start winning we won’t even matter to you. Y’all saw a glimpse during our game against the Broncos last year on NFL Network. You come down here and spend Monday night with us when we play the Jaguars. We’ll show you what passion really is. We’re ready. The question that must be asked is….will you be?

TexanBacker93
 
He usually has a MMQB Tuesday edition that answers a few emails. Either he's not having one this week or it hasn't been posted on SI.com.
 
The other thing I noticed, besides the lack of fans in their seats at game time, ws the readio plugs and website ads for single game tickets.....This is the other aspect that the national media looks at, when making the statement that king made. No way, no how, is their single seats available in some of the franchises previously mentioned. The only single seat you can get, is when the players give their tickets to scalpers,to make extra money.....:chickendance:
 
pittbull3 said:
The other thing I noticed, besides the lack of fans in their seats at game time, ws the readio plugs and website ads for single game tickets.....This is the other aspect that the national media looks at, when making the statement that king made. No way, no how, is their single seats available in some of the franchises previously mentioned. The only single seat you can get, is when the players give their tickets to scalpers,to make extra money.....
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I have visited quite a few NFL teams' websites and found single game tickets available through Ticketmaster (not a scalping agency).

So yeah, way. :thinking:
 
If I'm not mistaken home teams reserve "x" amount of seats for family and friends of opposing or 'visiting' teams. Depending on how many of "x" seats are accounted for the balance "y" seats go on sale as single game seats....


Could be wrong about that - though.



PS. Peter King is still an asshat!!!
 
I just went on the Browns website and through the re-direct to ticketmaster, found single game tickets available for their home games against the Broncos, Texans and Bengals.

I seriously don't think the 'national media' looks at things such as single game ticket sales as a measure of fan passion across the country. Some people are giving these guys wayyy too much credit. (if King can generalize, so can I) They don't research. They flap with the wind, go with the 'hot story', report what others have told them, and seek the best buffet. If we were winning playoff games, Peter King and many of his ilk would be kissing our asses. It's a disgusting profession in a way...
 
Double Barrel said:
I have visited quite a few NFL teams' websites and found single game tickets available through Ticketmaster (not a scalping agency).

So yeah, way. :thinking:
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I can only speak from my personal experience with Pittsburgh. You will not find single tickets, unless you are on Ebay. I do agree with AJ though, and I mentioned this earlier. National likes will only follow winning teams and quite frankly, we dont have a consistent winning team, nor a HUGE national story. Once that happens, they may say we have good fans. Until then, why worry about it!:thisbig:
 
Steelers Individual Game Tickets Available For 2008 Season Through Ticketmaster

PITTSBURGH — A limited number of individual game tickets for the Steelers 2008 home games are available through Ticketmaster beginning on Saturday, June 21, at noon. This marks the second consecutive season fans will be able to purchase the tickets through Ticketmaster.

Fans may buy up to four tickets total for the eight regular-season games while there is no limit for the two preseason home contests. A majority of the tickets will be priced at either $59 or $62. However, there will be single seats available at prices ranging from $59-$240.

Tickets will be sold either on www.ticketmaster.com or by calling 412-323-1919. American Express, MasterCard, Visa and Discover will be accepted by Ticketmaster. Tickets will not be sold at Ticketmaster outlets.

Since there are a limited number of tickets available, tickets are expected to sell out very quickly.


Steelers 2008 Preseason Schedule


Date Opponent Time (TV)

Friday, Aug. 8............................. PHILADELPHIA.......................... 7:30 p.m. (KDKA/FSNPittsburgh)
Thursday, Aug. 28..................... CAROLINA.................................. 7:30 p.m. (KDKA/FSN Pittsburgh)



Steelers 2008 Regular Season Schedule



Date Opponent Time (TV)

Sunday, Sept. 7.......................... HOUSTON................................... 1 p.m. (CBS)
Monday, Sept. 29....................... BALTIMORE................................ 8:30 p.m. (ESPN)
Sunday, Oct. 26.......................... NEW YORK GIANTS................. 4:15 p.m. (FOX)
Sunday, Nov. 9........................... INDIANAPOLIS........................... 4:15 p.m. (CBS)
Sunday, Nov. 16 *...................... SAN DIEGO................................. 4:15 p.m. (CBS)
Thursday, Nov. 20..................... CINCINNATI................................ 8:15 p.m. (NFL Network)
Sunday, Dec. 7 *........................ DALLAS....................................... 4:15 p.m. (FOX)
Sunday, Dec. 28 *...................... CLEVELAND............................... 1 p.m. (CBS)
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Link: Steelers.com Article: Steelers Individual Game Tickets Available For 2008 Season Through Ticketmaster
 
pittbull3 said:
I can only speak from my personal experience with Pittsburgh. You will not find single tickets, unless you are on Ebay. I do agree with AJ though, and I mentioned this earlier. National likes will only follow winning teams and quite frankly, we dont have a consistent winning team, nor a HUGE national story. Once that happens, they may say we have good fans. Until then, why worry about it!:thisbig:
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No problem, but that's not really what you said earlier:

pittbull3 said:
The other thing I noticed, besides the lack of fans in their seats at game time, ws the readio plugs and website ads for single game tickets.....This is the other aspect that the national media looks at, when making the statement that king made. No way, no how, is their single seats available in some of the franchises previously mentioned. The only single seat you can get, is when the players give their tickets to scalpers,to make extra money.....:chickendance:
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Obviously, this has been disputed. :tiphat:

My point is that, with few exceptions, most fans show up in numbers when their team is winning, and not so much during 2-14 seasons.

But regardless, the point is that King stated: "The fans of the Houston Texans are not passionate."

Which is pure horse crap. While the nature of PSLs and corporate seats do change the dynamics of home games in the modern age of football, King was pointing at ALL Texans fans. And this is the crux of the matter, because the carpetbaggin' yellow-dog media always takes the opportunity to disparage the south.

This city loves the Texans, as evidenced by the logo that you see everywhere. And for a team that has never sported a winning season, the fact that you still see Texans gear and memorabilia on a consistent basis is proof enough that there is passion in this fanbase.
 
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