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Annual early 09 draft prospect's

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Bubbajwp

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QB's
Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
Tim Tebow, Florida
Chase Daniel, Missouri
Todd Boeckman, Ohio State

RB's
Chris Wells, Ohio State
C.J. Spiller, Clemson
Javarris James, Miami (Fl.) (edgerin James cousin)

WR's
Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Percy Harvin, Florida
Brian Robiskie, Ohio State

TE's
Chase Coffman, Missouri
Cornelius Ingram, Florida

OT's
Michael Oher, Ole Miss
Alex Boone, Ohio State

OG's
Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
Jeremy Perry, Oregon State

C
Alex Mack, California
Antoine Caldwell, Alabama

DT's
Fili Moala, USC
Al Woods, LSU
DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma

DE's
Tyson jackson, LSU
George Selvie, South Florida
Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech

OLB's
Brian Cushing, USC
Sean Lee, Penn State
Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

MLB's
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC
Brandon Spikes, Florida
Darry Beckwith, LSU

CB's
Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
Vontae Davis, Illinois

Safties
Taylor Mays, USC
Myron Rolle, Florida State
Kevin Ellison, USC
 
Never too early to start thinking about next year!

A very early look at how our team is now, I'll be looking at a power runner to pair with Slaton, a pass rushing DE, a LB to add to the mix, and a versatile DB.

Might add Greg Hardy, DE from Ole Miss to the list.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Never too early to start thinking about next year!

A very early look at how our team is now, I'll be looking at a power runner to pair with Slaton, a pass rushing DE, a LB to add to the mix, and a versatile DB.

Might add Greg Hardy, DE from Ole Miss to the list.
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By all means I want everybody to add some names. I just threw out a few. As of right now I really want a safty or LB in next years draft. But it depends on how Drob comes back.
 
Bubbajwp said:
By all means I want everybody to add some names. I just threw out a few. As of right now I really want a safty or LB in next years draft. But it depends on how Drob comes back.
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I'm thinking all we need next year is a long range FS and an edge rusher to compliment Mario. Maybe SLB if Diles doesn't work out.

Crabtree will be a beast in the NFL IMO. I hate Tech but I like watching that guy play.
 
Small School

QB
Brock Smith, Liberty
Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross
Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
Sean Shaefer, Towson State
Jacary Atkinson, Tuskegee

RB
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State
Brandon Ore, West Liberty State
Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois

WR
Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

OL
Joel Bell, Furman
 
brakos82 said:
With the 23rd pick, the Texans pick one of those guys. :cowboy1:
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IMO the only reason to pick up another CB is to move someone to FS. Assuming either Reeves or Molden works out (and paired with Dunta and Freddie B), we have 3 capable corners.

I really just want a long-range, ball-hawking FS out of our first round next year. If not that then a monster at DE to help Mario.
 
TexansLucky13 said:
I'm thinking all we need next year is a long range FS and an edge rusher to compliment Mario. Maybe SLB if Diles doesn't work out.

Crabtree will be a beast in the NFL IMO. I hate Tech but I like watching that guy play.
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I think if we can get the following, remain healthy, and the OL learns quickly this year we can really make a push consistently for the playoffs:
A stud powerful RB to complement Slaton.
A pass-rushing DE opposite Mario.
An strong SLB.
A Free Safety that can make some turnovers.

We have free agency next year and all of our draft picks. We should be completing our team at the exact same time our 'young' picks (Jacoby, Amobi, Mario, TJ, Bennett, Molden? Adibi?) are maturing and really filling their role as well as our Offensive Line "gels", knows the system and produces like Gibbs' lines have in the past.

It's going to be exciting when all this comes together, very shortly.
 
rmartin65 said:
Small School

QB
Brock Smith, Liberty
Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross
Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
Sean Shaefer, Towson State
Jacary Atkinson, Tuskegee

RB
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State
Brandon Ore, West Liberty State
Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois

WR
Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

OL
Joel Bell, Furman
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Rhett Bomar could be a huge steal for somebody next year. He played pretty good while at oklahoma. But fell pretty far off the radar when he had to transfer to sam.
 
My two favorite players still in college are James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC But it would take a major catastrophe for one of them to fall to us.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I think if we can get the following, remain healthy, and the OL learns quickly this year we can really make a push consistently for the playoffs:
A stud powerful RB to complement Slaton.
A pass-rushing DE opposite Mario.
An strong SLB.
A Free Safety that can make some turnovers.

We have free agency next year and all of our draft picks. We should be completing our team at the exact same time our 'young' picks (Jacoby, Amobi, Mario, TJ, Bennett, Molden? Adibi?) are maturing and really filling their role as well as our Offensive Line "gels", knows the system and produces like Gibbs' lines have in the past.

It's going to be exciting when all this comes together, very shortly.
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I agree 100%. I would rank our draft needs next years as:

FS > DE > SLB > RB

This is assuming Brown and Adibi become starters, and one of our corners steps up to the #3 spot. I honestly think we aren't too bad at RB, especially if Slaton performs like he did year before last.
 
TexansLucky13 said:
I agree 100%. I would rank our draft needs next years as:

FS > DE > SLB > RB

This is assuming Brown and Adibi become starters, and one of our corners steps up to the #3 spot. I honestly think we aren't too bad at RB, especially if Slaton performs like he did year before last.
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You can add Drob fully recovering to that.
 
Best case scenario involves players we already have, and looking for them to develop over this season and heading into the '09 season.

WR- Jacoby develops into the threat we think he can be.
QB- Schaub is healthy and plays like we think he can, and he gets more protection
RB- Taylor shows us he's a good solution for us, Slaton shows us he's a great complimentary back.
OL- Brown develops into our franchise LT, Myers shows he's our C, Winston keeps on keepin on, and Spencer/Frye fill the role as great options at RG. Pitts stays healthy at LG
FB/TE- Daniels and Leach stay healthy

DL- Okam. He's gotta lose a little weight, get some endurance, and a mean streak to go beside Amobi and Mario. He frees up Amobi who progress and rushes the passer and Mario keeps on keepin on and develops more moves. (Here we still need that pass rusher opposite Mario)
LB- Demeco stays healthy. Adibi shows us he was another 4th rd steal and develops into a good WLB. I see SLB as still a long term issue, maybe Diles can fill that role or at least be a good backup for MLB and SLB.
CB- Dunta comes back healthy, Reeves shows to be a great nickle corner, Bennett continues to develop, and Molden becomes a real good player somewhere in the mix.
S- we have Brown, Earl, Harrison, Demps, Barber, and about 30 other SS's. I see this unit as strong. But we could add a FS that can create more turnovers. I wonder how Harrison or Barber could fill that role, or possibly a corner like Molden/Bennett may transition over as long as it doesn't create a weakness in the CB's (I'm not for Dunta moving AT ALL).

So I see a DE, SLB, and FS as the most likely positions to still look at with our high draft picks- and may have a great option in the '09 1st round.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
DL- Okam. He's gotta lose a little weight, get some endurance, and a mean streak to go beside Amobi and Mario. He frees up Amobi who progress and rushes the passer and Mario keeps on keepin on and develops more moves. (Here we still need that pass rusher opposite Mario)
LB- Demeco stays healthy. Adibi shows us he was another 4th rd steal and develops into a good WLB. I see SLB as still a long term issue, maybe Diles can fill that role or at least be a good backup for MLB and SLB.
CB- Dunta comes back healthy, Reeves shows to be a great nickle corner, Bennett continues to develop, and Molden becomes a real good player somewhere in the mix.
S- we have Brown, Earl, Harrison, Demps, Barber, and about 30 other SS's. I see this unit as strong. But we could add a FS that can create more turnovers. I wonder how Harrison or Barber could fill that role, or possibly a corner like Molden/Bennett may transition over as long as it doesn't create a weakness in the CB's (I'm not for Dunta moving AT ALL).

So I see a DE, SLB, and FS as the most likely positions to still look at with our high draft picks- and may have a great option in the '09 1st round.
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As of right now the 09 draft seems to be built for our remaining needs. At an early glance the 09 draft seems stacked at the positions we need as you said. FS,SLB,DE
OLB's
Brian Cushing, USC
Sean Lee, Penn State
Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

MLB's - I think all of these mlbs would be great olb's in the nfl.
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC
Brandon Spikes, Florida

and the usc Safties seem pretty good at this point to.
 
Painter from Purdue, maybe the best QB prospect of the bunch. looks dreadful right now though, although Tebow is the wild card to be the best of the whole draft class if he keeps improving.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Never too early to start thinking about next year!
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It's not too early. It's way too early. I just looked at an internet scout's top senior draft board heading into this season, and Okam was #4 prospect. There were a couple of guys on the list who weren't even drafted. A player can finish the season highly regarded, then after the heavy scrutiny, pinching, and poking by NFL scouts, become a mid to late round pick. Slaton, Adibi, and Okam are great examples.

But, don't let me rain on the parade.
 
Lucky said:
It's not too early. It's way too early. I just looked at an internet scout's top senior draft board heading into this season, and Okam was #4 prospect. There were a couple of guys on the list who weren't even drafted. A player can finish the season highly regarded, then after the heavy scrutiny, pinching, and poking by NFL scouts, become a mid to late round pick. Slaton, Adibi, and Okam are great examples.

But, don't let me rain on the parade.
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LOL, I agree with you. But you gotta start somewhere. I think it's a good idea to have a list like this to reference throughout the college season, so we can watch the prospects. Some will fail, some will do good.

I'll also be looking at the Texans throughout the year, trying to identify specific needs and seeing what players in college may help fill them.

You're right though, even Andre Woodson near the end of this season was thought to possibly be the 1st QB taken in the 1st round... 6th round just isn't the same!
 
Bubbajwp said:
As of right now the 09 draft seems to be built for our remaining needs. At an early glance the 09 draft seems stacked at the positions we need as you said. FS,SLB,DE
OLB's
Brian Cushing, USC
Sean Lee, Penn State
Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

MLB's - I think all of these mlbs would be great olb's in the nfl.
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC
Brandon Spikes, Florida

and the usc Safties seem pretty good at this point to.
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You can mark off Sean Lee.

Penn State's Sean Lee Tears ACL

FROM THE PENN STATE SPORTS INFORMATION DEPARTMENT

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa.; April 12, 2008 – Penn State standout linebacker Sean Lee (Pittsburgh) suffered a serious knee injury in practice Friday that will likely sideline him for the 2008 season.

A probable All-America candidate, Lee tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee, according to Dr. Wayne Sebastianelli, Penn State Director of Athletic Medicine. Lee will have surgery within the next 2-4 weeks and rehabilitation will take approximately nine months, according to Sebastianelli.
 
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

Houston Texans: Taylor Mays, SS, USC
Basically the Best Player Available formula for a team hurting for defense. It's not like strong safety isn't a need, anyway. Taylor Mays is an amazing athlete who, despite weighing 225 pounds, runs a 4.4 40.
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Uggg ! Just what we needed, another SS candidate.

2.49 Houston Texans: Arian Foster, RB, Tennessee
I don't expect Ahman Green and Chris Brown to be around once this actual draft takes place. Steve Slaton is a nice scat back to have, but he definitely can't carry the load. The 225-pound Arian Foster would be a nice complement to Slaton.
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http://www.walterfootball.com/draftdata.php
 
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jses...d8081dca9&template=without-video&confirm=true

Brian Orakpo, Texas (6-4, 255): Missed five games in '07 with an injury, but he's got the one trait everyone looks for -- he's a pass rusher.
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Mitch King, Iowa (6-3, 275): Has 174 career tackles with 39 for a loss; came to Iowa as a LB.
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Brian Cushing, USC (6-4, 241): Played DE in 2006 and then started 13 games at strongside LB in 2007; played RB and TE in high school.
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Bubbajwp said:
My two favorite players still in college are James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC But it would take a major catastrophe for one of them to fall to us.
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With the schedule we have, 6-10 is possible and would have us selecting in the area one of these two guys falls to. Also remember MIKE LBs do not draft top 10 very often so...

If this team goes 6-10, I am not calling it a major catastrophe, only a minor one.
 
rollinstone18 said:
Mays can play FS. I like the FS from Mizzou, William Moore, the most out of the bunch. It's looking to be a deep class too.
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That is the guy I have my eye on. Maybe he falls to the 2nd round...

He meets the description, ball hawking; 10 career INTs, large body, 6-1 230lbs FS with SS size.

If he runs in the mid 4.5s or lower than he should be high on the radar.
 
Maybe one of the mods can sticky this thread so we know who to look for during college football season! Thanks!
 
Here is an early 09 Mock:

1) Atlanta - Fili Moala, DT, USC
2) Detroit - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
3) Kansas City - Matt Stafford*, QB, Georgia
4) Miami - Al Woods, DT, LSU
5) Cincinnati - Sen'Derrick Marks*, DT, Auburn
6) Oakland - Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama
7) Chicago - Tim Tebow*, QB, Florida
8) San Francisco - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
9) St. Louis - Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
10) New York Jets - Knowshon Moreno*, RB, Georgia
11) Tennessee - Michael Crabtree*, WR, Texas Tech
12) Houston - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State (Mentions CB/Safety potential)
13) Denver - James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
14) Baltimore - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
15) Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
16) Arizona - Lesean McCoy*, RB, Pittsburgh
17) Buffalo - Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
18) Philadelphia - Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
19) Washington - Greg Hardy*, DE, Mississippi
20) Minnesota - Percy Harvin*, WR/RS, Florida
21) Tampa Bay - Ciron Black, OT, LSU
22) Green Bay - Max Unger, OT, Oregon
23) Cleveland - Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
24) Seattle - Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
25) Pittsburgh - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
26) New Orleans - Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
27) New York Giants - Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
28) Jacksonville - William Moore, S, Missouri
29) Indianapolis - Vance Walker, DT/DE, Georgia Tech
30) San Diego - Auston English, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
31) Dallas - Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
32) New England - Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
 
If our current staff especially FA & draft picks for this season perform as expected, I would draft DE, FS, WR, DT and CB in 2009.

DE: Even if Weaver has a good year in 08, he will be 29 yoa for 09 season. He may be in prime but just as easily may not. I want a guy that I can groom as a eventual starter. Don't want to hope I can get a FA for this primo spot.

FS: Demps may be the real deal and be a pro bowler and not an alternate, but a true FS with a bit of speed would sure make me giggly.

WR: Yes, we could have one of the strongest groups but time will tell. Johnson is the only Triple Crown horse we have. Walter is solid but Davis and JJ could go either way. A lower round speedster in 2009 may be a smart move.

DT:Johnson, Frank Okam and or Bulman could be the answer or not. A 5th round pick could strengthen the roster.

CB: If Jenkins lands where we select in first round, it is a done deal imo. We just might be drafting higher than some might think. We have a very tough schedule and based on history, we should lose several starters due to injuries this season. ALso, no guarantee on DR and I love the guy, but we should know by end of season if he will be a plus.
 
JWarren14 said:
Here is an early 09 Mock:

1) Atlanta - Fili Moala, DT, USC
2) Detroit - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
3) Kansas City - Matt Stafford*, QB, Georgia
4) Miami - Al Woods, DT, LSU
5) Cincinnati - Sen'Derrick Marks*, DT, Auburn
6) Oakland - Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama
7) Chicago - Tim Tebow*, QB, Florida
8) San Francisco - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
9) St. Louis - Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
10) New York Jets - Knowshon Moreno*, RB, Georgia
11) Tennessee - Michael Crabtree*, WR, Texas Tech
12) Houston - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State (Mentions CB/Safety potential)
13) Denver - James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
14) Baltimore - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
15) Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
16) Arizona - Lesean McCoy*, RB, Pittsburgh
17) Buffalo - Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
18) Philadelphia - Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
19) Washington - Greg Hardy*, DE, Mississippi
20) Minnesota - Percy Harvin*, WR/RS, Florida
21) Tampa Bay - Ciron Black, OT, LSU
22) Green Bay - Max Unger, OT, Oregon
23) Cleveland - Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
24) Seattle - Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
25) Pittsburgh - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
26) New Orleans - Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
27) New York Giants - Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
28) Jacksonville - William Moore, S, Missouri
29) Indianapolis - Vance Walker, DT/DE, Georgia Tech
30) San Diego - Auston English, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
31) Dallas - Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
32) New England - Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
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You're mock blows goats. Did you make it or find it online?
 
Shaft75 said:
You're mock blows goats. Did you make it or find it online?
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ESPN's

Every 09 mock "blows goats" a whole college & nfl season still has to be played before anybody can get any sort of grasp on whats going to happen and even then nobody really knows.
 
JWarren14 said:
ESPN's

Every 09 mock "blows goats" a whole college & nfl season still has to be played before anybody can get any sort of grasp on whats going to happen and even then nobody really knows.
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oh okay, let me rephrase that...

ESPN's '09 mock draft blows goats. The Texans will not be picking at 12 before TN.
 
Shaft75 said:
oh okay, let me rephrase that...

ESPN's '09 mock draft blows goats. The Texans will not be picking at 12 before TN.
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Well, they have Tenn. picking 11th, so we would be after them. We have a tough schedule and a lot of questions. Lots of things are possible at this point, so instead of randomly bashing a mock draft, take a moment to learn the names, so maybe you won't be foolishly bashing picks at next years draft.

Now, as for the actual mock presented, I am a little confused with Miami's pick. I don't consider him to be the best DT on the LSU roster.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Well, they have Tenn. picking 11th, so we would be after them. We have a tough schedule and a lot of questions. Lots of things are possible at this point, so instead of randomly bashing a mock draft, take a moment to learn the names, so maybe you won't be foolishly bashing picks at next years draft.

Now, as for the actual mock presented, I am a little confused with Miami's pick. I don't consider him to be the best DT on the LSU roster.
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Oops. You are right. I must have read that wrong. How foolish of me.

Back to your statement...

What are our questionable positions this year besides the secondary or maybe the offensive line? You are making it sound like you semi-agree that we will have a worse, or equal, record than Baltimore, Arizona, Philly, Washington, New Orleans, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, etc. I don't see how we take a step back this year. This is not a flat-footed team. The Texans have alone improved by getting players healthy. Now throw in the new coaches, some offseason additions, and a decent draft.

Why do you think that we have enough questions to take a step back?
 
Shaft75 said:
You are making it sound like you semi-agree that we will have a worse, or equal, record than Baltimore, Arizona, Philly, Washington, New Orleans, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, etc. I don't see how we take a step back this year. This is not a flat-footed team. The Texans have alone improved by getting players healthy. Now throw in the new coaches, some offseason additions, and a decent draft.

Why do you think that we have enough questions to take a step back?
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I think the Texans have REALLY improved the team. We've got such quality players now and great coaching. With that said, even though we ARE a much improved team, I don't think that will have THAT big of effect on our roster. I think we can very easily have 6 or 7 wins... then again we could end up quite possibly having like 10 wins. I would expect us to be picking late teens or early twenties, but you never know. If they had us picking at 5 I'd be upset, but not 12.

Like the pick of Jenkins... I do NOT like seeing Crabtree going to Tennesse though!
 
What are y'alls thoughts on Crabtree? The guy seems amazing to me, but there's some naysayers that contribute a lot of his success to the system at Tech. I will be watching him closer this season from strictly a 'skills' standpoint and how he may transition into the nfl... wr's are hard for me to get a grasp on (if not named calvin johnson). But if Crabtree would be a good/great PRO player... him and AJ would be crazy together.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
What are y'alls thoughts on Crabtree? The guy seems amazing to me, but there's some naysayers that contribute a lot of his success to the system at Tech. I will be watching him closer this season from strictly a 'skills' standpoint and how he may transition into the nfl... wr's are hard for me to get a grasp on (if not named calvin johnson). But if Crabtree would be a good/great PRO player... him and AJ would be crazy together.
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if the Texans are in the Crabtree running they would really have to suck, can't imagine a talent like him, if he declares early, would still be available after the top 10 picks.

however, I'm hoping the Texans can get the top defensive player on their board like 07 (Amobi Okoye). don't really care if he's a DE, LB or CB. I think the Texans will be players in the next free agent market with plenty of cap room, so maybe they address WR there.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
What are y'alls thoughts on Crabtree? The guy seems amazing to me, but there's some naysayers that contribute a lot of his success to the system at Tech. I will be watching him closer this season from strictly a 'skills' standpoint and how he may transition into the nfl... wr's are hard for me to get a grasp on (if not named calvin johnson). But if Crabtree would be a good/great PRO player... him and AJ would be crazy together.
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I watch just about every Tech game with my pops since he is a tech alum and I went to TX state so I dont have a football team that plays on TV. Of course his numbers are inflated from the system, Tech throws the ball 50 times a game and a lot of times Leach goees for it on 4th down. Dont underestimate his ability however, he has good speed long arms and great hands. He could have been a star basketball player, but he chose to stick to football. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82gceLrZwCk) He is going to be goood....
 
beerlover said:
if the Texans are in the Crabtree running they would really have to suck, can't imagine a talent like him, if he declares early, would still be available after the top 10 picks.

however, I'm hoping the Texans can get the top defensive player on their board like 07 (Amobi Okoye). don't really care if he's a DE, LB or CB. I think the Texans will be players in the next free agent market with plenty of cap room, so maybe they address WR there.
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I find it very doubtful he would be available for us in the first place, but this early in the game you never know. Preseason favorites drop all the time after a year and the draft roles around... but I do doubt Crabtree does.

I'm in the same boat you are as far as defense. That'd be great if we could get another stud playmaker on this young Defense.
 
beerlover said:
if the Texans are in the Crabtree running they would really have to suck, can't imagine a talent like him, if he declares early, would still be available after the top 10 picks.

however, I'm hoping the Texans can get the top defensive player on their board like 07 (Amobi Okoye). don't really care if he's a DE, LB or CB. I think the Texans will be players in the next free agent market with plenty of cap room, so maybe they address WR there.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=kuharsky_paul&id=3472921


Highly touted juniors across the country are enjoying a little downtime. Soon enough, they'll be back on campus, getting ready for football season.

But that's not all they should be getting ready for, because early departure to the NFL may soon become a more attractive option.
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The owners recently opted out of the collective bargaining agreement, which means it will expire in 2011 instead of 2013. But if there isn't a new deal by March 2009, an absence of one would trigger big changes -- there would be no 2010 salary cap, and the framework of free agency would change.


Count Roger Goodell, left, among those who believe No. 1 pick Jake Long is making too much money.

Let's presume the sides find common ground for a new deal next spring, keep 2009 in place under its existing structure, but agree on some revision to rookie salaries starting in 2010.

If you're a junior this fall, you'll want to get into the league as soon as you can. Wait, and you'd be part of the first draft class to enter after the system is changed, perhaps costing yourself millions.
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I have a feeling the board will be loaded next year.
 
JWarren14 said:
ESPN's

Every 09 mock "blows goats" a whole college & nfl season still has to be played before anybody can get any sort of grasp on whats going to happen and even then nobody really knows.
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We'll see what kind of beating Matt Ryan takes next year. If the Sam Baker- Justin Blalock left side craters, they'll draft Ryan Help early & often. O-line or Rb.
They've got too much money tied up in him not to.
 
Shaft75 said:
Oops. You are right. I must have read that wrong. How foolish of me.

Back to your statement...

What are our questionable positions this year besides the secondary or maybe the offensive line? You are making it sound like you semi-agree that we will have a worse, or equal, record than Baltimore, Arizona, Philly, Washington, New Orleans, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, etc. I don't see how we take a step back this year. This is not a flat-footed team. The Texans have alone improved by getting players healthy. Now throw in the new coaches, some offseason additions, and a decent draft.

Why do you think that we have enough questions to take a step back?
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I think we are an improved team, but as I said, we have a lot of questions that aren't answered that prohibit some people from thinking playoffs. I do not think we are a playoff team, but I also don't think we finish last. We have a new offensive line coach to start with, so guys have to continue adjusting. We have healthy players now, yes, but are you comfortable with our running backs? or our OLBs? We can't predict injuries either at this point. There are simply too many questions to say we will finish higher than we did last year, though it is a definite possibility. My point is this: we haven't even gotten to TC yet, let alone week 17. I think 12 is a realistic possibility for our team, though not ideal.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
I think we are an improved team, but as I said, we have a lot of questions that aren't answered that prohibit some people from thinking playoffs. I do not think we are a playoff team, but I also don't think we finish last. We have a new offensive line coach to start with, so guys have to continue adjusting. We have healthy players now, yes, but are you comfortable with our running backs? or our OLBs? We can't predict injuries either at this point. There are simply too many questions to say we will finish higher than we did last year, though it is a definite possibility. My point is this: we haven't even gotten to TC yet, let alone week 17. I think 12 is a realistic possibility for our team, though not ideal.
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What is your point, may I ask?
 
76Texan said:
What is your point, may I ask?
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I think his point was that yes we are a much improved team (so much better!) but that doesn't necessarily mean we will get more wins. There are still a lot of question marks at positions both on offense and defense. A winning record is definitely attainable but so is a losing record. We're still flirting around .500 +/- a game even though our team has improved.

Even if we go 7-9 this coming season, I still think this is a better team than we were a year ago at 8-8, if that makes any sense.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I think his point was that yes we are a much improved team (so much better!) but that doesn't necessarily mean we will get more wins. There are still a lot of question marks at positions both on offense and defense. A winning record is definitely attainable but so is a losing record. We're still flirting around .500 +/- a game even though our team has improved.

Even if we go 7-9 this coming season, I still think this is a better team than we were a year ago at 8-8, if that makes any sense.
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Thank you. This is pretty much right on the money for what I was conveying.
 
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