free agency - any rumors?

[brickman]

As I sit here during offseason, I'm craving some new Texans news. When does free agency start? When can players start being signed? Is there any news around H-town as to what they are thinking.... if anything. Being in upstate NY, I'm craving some news of people we are interested in and also re-signing our own free agents. Thanks!

 

[Marcus]

Well, there is one free agent they are definately NOT interested in . . .

Look what Asante Samuel wants!

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Tuesday, Feb. 26: Conclusion of NFL Scouting Combine.

Thursday, Feb. 28 (9:01 p.m., Pacific time): Beginning of free-agent signing period and trade period.

Monday, March 17: 49ers offseason condition program begins.

Sunday, March 30-Thursday, April 3: NFL Annual Meeting, Palm Beach, Fla.

Late March-Early April: 2008 regular-season schedule announced (see below).

Friday, April 18: Deadline to sign restricted free agents to offer sheets.

Saturday, April 26-Sunday, April 27: NFL Draft.

Friday May 2-Sunday, May 4: 49ers full-squad minicamp with veterans and rookies, Santa Clara (closed to the public).

Monday, May 19-Wednesday, May 21: NFL Spring Meeting, Buckhead, Ga.

Monday, June 2: 49ers organized team activities begin.

Friday, June 20: 49ers organized team activities end.

Tuesday, July 15 (1 p.m., Pacific time): Deadline to sign franchise players to offer sheets.

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=733195

 

[brickman]

Thanks for the info. Hopefully, they spend the $ wisely!

 

[brickman]

With free agency beginning at midnight Thursday night, anyone hearing any rumors of anyone we are targeting in free agency. I don't plan on them spending wild money, but would like to see us go after a few pieces to help with the puzzle. Anyone have any thoughts/rumors/comments?

 

[badboy]

My hopes of the Texans going after a starter in free agency (preferably CB) have declined as more players are franchised or expected to demand too much loot. There may be some minor pick ups that may play a role as season progresses and injuries occur. I am hopeful that our three biggest needs LT,RB & CB will be addressed in first, third and fourth rounds. I think we may get a surprise or two from players such as Brandon Harris (safety) Brandon Frye (guard that might play tackle)Kasey Studdard (guard),Zach Diles (LB)Mike Briesel (guard) Brandon Mitchell (safety) Chris Taylor (RB) that were on team last season but did not play much or any. We can't overlook these guys.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

My hopes of the Texans going after a starter in free agency (preferably CB) have declined as more players are franchised or expected to demand too much loot. There may be some minor pick ups that may play a role as season progresses and injuries occur. I am hopeful that our three biggest needs LT,RB & CB will be addressed in first, third and fourth rounds. I think we may get a surprise or two from players such as Brandon Harris (safety) Brandon Frye (guard that might play tackle)Kasey Studdard (guard),Zach Diles (LB)Mike Briesel (guard) Brandon Mitchell (safety) Chris Taylor (RB) that were on team last season but did not play much or any. We can't overlook these guys.

I don't really know who all is left in FA, but I think Smith will def. sign a couple of lesser known players and have them compete. I think CB is being looked at very closely because any competition is good and needed. I'd love to see us take a CB in the first, or trade down, or do any number of things but the point being- It still isn't going to look that pretty having Bennett and a rookie CB starting for us! I'm really nervous about this so I think we will see some veteran guy(s) signed.

I'm interested in (I think its) Brandon Harrison from Stanford- he could end up being our safety of the future (SS??). I can't wait to see what Gibbs does with this O-Line w/ Frye, Briesel and Studdard.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

I do not see us being that active in FA this year. We have some big decisions after next season with our own folks:

2008 FA:
Dunta Robinson

2009 FA:
Demeco Ryans - I see an extension being done next year
Eric Winston - I see an extension being done next year
Chester Pitts
Charles Spencer

Sure we have some dollars available and the cap is going up incrementally year over year. Moreover, with the prospect of the owners nixing the CBA and a no cap year in 2011 I would imagine that securing folks long term under a cap will be very important, especally for those teams with a young nucleus in my opinion.

Once we get to the uncapped seasons McNair's pocketbook will be great to have to go with a secured nucleus.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Thursday, Feb. 28 (9:01 p.m., Pacific time): Beginning of free-agent signing period and trade period.

Who uses Pacific Time!!??? Took me an hour to take the 9 multiply by 3, divide by 2... carry the 1... ah what the hell, i give up- is that Midnight Central time!? haha only kidding...


As for the original question- the only rumor I have heard is that there was a deal in the works of us trading for a Running Back. Then that rumor kind of died and doesn't look to be valid. There is/was another rumor that we signed/have a deal in place with a Running Back. Don't know if there's any truth to that or who that player would be.

That shouldn't be a surprise though, I think there will be a lot of competition in Camp at the RB position. We have Green, Dayne (re-sign?), Walker, Taylor + we'll draft a RB probably pick up another UDFA RB, and sign a FA RB in the offseason. There's Arliss Beach- not sure if he's on the team or not but he's probably in the mix to. I just see us having no more than 4 RB's come the Reg. season and that being Green + Dayne + probably a drafted RB + probably Walker or Taylor. just my guess though

 

[Malloy]

I just see us having no more than 4 RB's come the Reg. season and that being Green + Dayne + probably a drafted RB + probably Walker or Taylor. just my guess though

Think you're spot on.

 

[beerlover]

I do not see us being that active in FA this year. We have some big decisions after next season with our own folks:

2008 FA:
Dunta Robinson

2009 FA:
Demeco Ryans - I see an extension being done next year
Eric Winston - I see an extension being done next year
Chester Pitts
Charles Spencer

Sure we have some dollars available and the cap is going up incrementally year over year. Moreover, with the prospect of the owners nixing the CBA and a no cap year in 2011 I would imagine that securing folks long term under a cap will be very important, especally for those teams with a young nucleus in my opinion.

Once we get to the uncapped seasons McNair's pocketbook will be great to have to go with a secured nucleus.

I agree that this is the prudent thing to do. look for Kubiak/Smith kinda guys with Gibbs/Rhodes ties.

 

[El Tejano]

I could see us picking up a guy like Andre Dyson in FA but what do I know?

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I could see us picking up a guy like Andre Dyson in FA but what do I know?

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

We will definitely be bringing in players, I just do not see us opening up the wallet, as in being a major player in the FA market. We have holes to fill especially at CB.

Dyson would be a good guy to bring in for the minimum. He is coming off an injury and going into his 8th year. Playing man with the Titans is something I like, but with Rhodes back there now I am not sure if this is a good fit.

 

[Dallas_Texan]

I was thinking the same thing.

We do seem to do well with the Andre's! Who knows?

 

[Maddict5]

what about boss bailey

 

[tulexan]

For some reason, I don't think Dayne is going to be back. I remember hearing an interview with Kubiak (I think with the terrible Anna Megan) and he talked about all of our running backs except Dayne.

I think going into training camp we will have a FA RB, Green, drafted RB, and winner of Walker and Taylor for the last spot.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Who uses Pacific Time!!??? Took me an hour to take the 9 multiply by 3, divide by 2... carry the 1... ah what the hell, i give up- is that Midnight Central time!? haha only kidding...


As for the original question- the only rumor I have heard is that there was a deal in the works of us trading for a Running Back. Then that rumor kind of died and doesn't look to be valid. There is/was another rumor that we signed/have a deal in place with a Running Back. Don't know if there's any truth to that or who that player would be.

That shouldn't be a surprise though, I think there will be a lot of competition in Camp at the RB position. We have Green, Dayne (re-sign?), Walker, Taylor + we'll draft a RB probably pick up another UDFA RB, and sign a FA RB in the offseason. There's Arliss Beach- not sure if he's on the team or not but he's probably in the mix to. I just see us having no more than 4 RB's come the Reg. season and that being Green + Dayne + probably a drafted RB + probably Walker or Taylor. just my guess though

I think I'd be mildly upset if Dayne was brought back. Unless he'd come dirt cheap, he's not worth keeping around. The way I'd like to see things go down would be to draft a RB in round 3 or 4. Have Green, Taylor, Walker, the Rook and maybe some UDFA's go at it in camp. May the best three make the roster. Which IMO would end up like this: Green, the Rook and Taylor in no specific order.

There was just too many yards left on the field to justify bringing Dayne back. Everytime I watch a DVR'd game it aggravates the heck out of me.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

For some reason, I don't think Dayne is going to be back. I remember hearing an interview with Kubiak (I think with the terrible Anna Megan) and he talked about all of our running backs except Dayne.

I think going into training camp we will have a FA RB, Green, drafted RB, and winner of Walker and Taylor for the last spot.

That is a plausible scenario.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

I think I'd be mildly upset if Dayne was brought back. Unless he'd come dirt cheap, he's not worth keeping around. The way I'd like to see things go down would be to draft a RB in round 3 or 4. Have Green, Taylor, Walker, the Rook and maybe some UDFA's go at it in camp. May the best three make the roster. Which IMO would end up like this: Green, the Rook and Taylor in no specific order.

There was just too many yards left on the field to justify bringing Dayne back. Everytime I watch a DVR'd game it aggravates the heck out of me.

He definantly would come dirt cheap. Vet minimum most likely just like the last 2 seasons. It would cost us about 1 mil for 1 season. Thats pretty reasonable.

 

[El Tejano]

Something tells me that we need to keep Walker. Kid was a gamer.

 

[HOU-TEX]

He definantly would come dirt cheap. Vet minimum most likely just like the last 2 seasons. It would cost us about 1 mil for 1 season. Thats pretty reasonable.

Eh, I think I'd still rather have somebody younger with potential. We know what we get with Dayne and IMO, it's not good enough.

 

[buddyboy]

We get a semi-reliable back who has shown that he can contribute and NOT make stupid mistakes (fumble). Sure, we'd like someone younger with potential, but to give up on dayne who costs us almost nothing and has contributed so much in the last two seasons would be foolish IMO.

 

[HOU-TEX]

We get a semi-reliable back who has shown that he can contribute and NOT make stupid mistakes (fumble). Sure, we'd like someone younger with potential, but to give up on dayne who costs us almost nothing and has contributed so much in the last two seasons would be foolish IMO.

Agree to disagree, I guess. You say he contributed so much in the past. I say there was so much more there that could've been contributed. I re-watch games quite often (when the wife and kids are out. lol) and the lack of vision is obvious.

 

[threetoedpete]

Well you guys are probably correct. My veiw of Dayne is he is
our mudder. We get into a bad weather game...that is when he will earn his oats. Unless they draft Forte in the fourth or something...Dayne's not going anywhere. I think Walker and Taylor are the bubble guys, not Dayne.

 

[TK_Gamer]

Agree to disagree, I guess. You say he contributed so much in the past. I say there was so much more there that could've been contributed. I re-watch games quite often (when the wife and kids are out. lol) and the lack of vision is obvious.

I think Kubiak sees all these shortcommings as well, but he and Smith I think will make decisions based on best return for investment. I dont think you can just discard every player that doesnt produce ideally. The fact of the matter is for his basicly "league min." sallary, Dayne has won games for the Texans. I think it will be at least 3 years before the running game can carry the fortunes of the Texans. I think hard work and some luck will get the Texans to the playoffs and our defense will have to carry the day from there untill the offense can catch up.

 

[tulexan]

Well you guys are probably correct. My veiw of Dayne is he is
our mudder. We get into a bad weather game...that is when he will earn his oats. Unless they draft Forte in the fourth or something...Dayne's not going anywhere. I think Walker and Taylor are the bubble guys, not Dayne.

If they are going to draft Forte it's going to be in the 3rd. There's no way he will be around for our 4th round pick.

I wouldn't mind going after someone like Mewelde Moore (another Green Wave) in FA and drafting Kevin Smith or Forte in the 3rd.

 

[drewmar74]

Here's a couple of rumors for you:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/434805.html

• Among safeties, New England's Eugene Wilson -- who also can play cornerback -- is on Miami's radar. Former Giants and Texans safety Will Demps wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with Miami, an associate said
  
  
• The Dolphins figure to add at least one receiver from a list that includes Jerry Porter, Jabar Gaffney, Ernest Wilford, Andre Davis and Bryant Johnson. But the market will be high for Chicago's Bernard Berrian, who is being linked to the 49ers

 

[TK_Gamer]

Well you guys are probably correct. My veiw of Dayne is he is
our mudder. We get into a bad weather game...that is when he will earn his oats. Unless they draft Forte in the fourth or something...Dayne's not going anywhere. I think Walker and Taylor are the bubble guys, not Dayne.

I agree, and I also think even if we did grab a guy like Forte, we would still keep Dayne until his replacement could learn the system.

 

[TK_Gamer]

Here's a couple of rumors for you:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/434805.html

• Among safeties, New England's Eugene Wilson -- who also can play cornerback -- is on Miami's radar. Former Giants and Texans safety Will Demps wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with Miami, an associate said
  
  
  
• The Dolphins figure to add at least one receiver from a list that includes Jerry Porter, Jabar Gaffney, Ernest Wilford, Andre Davis and Bryant Johnson. But the market will be high for Chicago's Bernard Berrian, who is being linked to the 49ers

Looks more like wishfull thinking than rumor to me, I seriously doubt either of those guys will be leaving the Texans this year. IMHO

 

[ChampionTexan]

Looks more like wishfull thinking than rumor to me, I seriously doubt either of those guys will be leaving the Texans this year. IMHO

I hope you're at least half right, and totally right would be even better!

 

[beerlover]

Looks more like wishfull thinking than rumor to me, I seriously doubt either of those guys will be leaving the Texans this year. IMHO

The Texans have done everything right to send Andre Davis the message they want him back. his agent has convinced him other teams will spend more for his servies & pay they shall, but not the Texans

 

[drewmar74]

Here's more for you:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2008/whispers022308.htm

Should Texans WR André Davis re-sign with the club, he could be overtaken as the club’s No. 3 receiver by Jacoby Jones, Houston’s third-round pick from a year ago, who flashed considerable potential in the preseason but didn’t play as well in the regular season. However, we’re hearing the Texans are open to paying Davis like a No. 3 receiver because of his value as a receiver and a kickoff returner.

 

[The1ApplePie]

TJ Duckett would be a good, obscure pick up. A younger, more athletic Dayne that can be picked up at Vet Min. Also used to ZBS

 

[Dallas_Texan]

Here's a couple of rumors for you:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/434805.html

• Among safeties, New England's Eugene Wilson -- who also can play cornerback -- is on Miami's radar. Former Giants and Texans safety Will Demps wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with Miami, an associate said
  
  
• The Dolphins figure to add at least one receiver from a list that includes Jerry Porter, Jabar Gaffney, Ernest Wilford, Andre Davis and Bryant Johnson. But the market will be high for Chicago's Bernard Berrian, who is being linked to the 49ers

Wow....Gaffney is listed beside Berrian, Davis, and Jerry Porter. Is it the end of the world yet?:elle:

 

[YoungTexanFan]

I think we may try to bring in a CB like the Patriots Gay. The OTHER Patriots FA CB.

 

[Insideop]

My hopes of the Texans going after a starter in free agency (preferably CB) have declined as more players are franchised or expected to demand too much loot. There may be some minor pick ups that may play a role as season progresses and injuries occur. I am hopeful that our three biggest needs LT,RB & CB will be addressed in first, third and fourth rounds. I think we may get a surprise or two from players such as Brandon Harris (safety) Brandon Frye (guard that might play tackle)Kasey Studdard (guard),Zach Diles (LB)Mike Briesel (guard) Brandon Mitchell (safety) Chris Taylor (RB) that were on team last season but did not play much or any. We can't overlook these guys.

I have kinda felt the same way, that we will not be very active in FA, and probably only pick up 1 or 2 lesser names. But, the Texans, since Kubes and/or Smith have been running the show, always do something in the offseason to surprise us, either in the Draft or in FA. I know it's only been 2 years since they took over (Smith 1 1/2 yrs.), but look how they have surprised us both years. The 1st year it was picking Mario in the 1st round instead of Bush. That was a shocker that angered alot of fans, but in retrospect has turned out pretty well. Then last year it was the blockbuster trade for Schaub and dumping YKW. That one surprised us too because most were thinking we would draft a QB and have him backup YKW for a couple of years.

I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be surprised if they pull off another shocker in the offseason. It always comes when you least expect it. JMHO!

 

[Overalls]

Here's more for you:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2008/whispers022308.htm

Should Texans WR André Davis re-sign with the club, he could be overtaken as the club’s No. 3 receiver by Jacoby Jones, Houston’s third-round pick from a year ago, who flashed considerable potential in the preseason but didn’t play as well in the regular season. However, we’re hearing the Texans are open to paying Davis like a No. 3 receiver because of his value as a receiver and a kickoff returner.

Can there really be much of a difference between #3 money and #4 money? As much as I like Jacoby, I think that battle will have to be won on the field.

 

[badboy]

I have kinda felt the same way, that we will not be very active in FA, and probably only pick up 1 or 2 lesser names. But, the Texans, since Kubes and/or Smith have been running the show, always do something in the offseason to surprise us, either in the Draft or in FA. I know it's only been 2 years since they took over (Smith 1 1/2 yrs.), but look how they have surprised us both years. The 1st year it was picking Mario in the 1st round instead of Bush. That was a shocker that angered alot of fans, but in retrospect has turned out pretty well. Then last year it was the blockbuster trade for Schaub and dumping YKW. That one surprised us too because most were thinking we would draft a QB and have him backup YKW for a couple of years.

I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be surprised if they pull off another shocker in the offseason. It always comes when you least expect it. JMHO!

from your lips to smith's ears.

 

[pappy]

Think you're spot on.

not me ! if we go with the zone system that gibbs is famous for it could mean less fullback and more hb .

 

[b0ng]

Can there really be much of a difference between #3 money and #4 money? As much as I like Jacoby, I think that battle will have to be won on the field.

I think Davis's agent has him convinced that he will get #2 money from a club somewhere. The Bucs, Jags, and Chiefs could all use Davis's services, and I know the Jags and the Bucs could probably outbid us if it came down to it.

Maybe we'll pick up Flowers or somebody like that with our pick.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Can there really be much of a difference between #3 money and #4 money? As much as I like Jacoby, I think that battle will have to be won on the field.

I would say yes. Davis is in his late 20s and this could be his last contract. WR 4 money is probably veteran minimum with a minimal signing bonus. If he is able to get even a decent signing bonus and/or "just" 200,000 or 300,000 a year more, that is potentially huge for how he sets up the rest of his life.

 

[DocBar]

I would say yes. Davis is in his late 20s and this could be his last contract. WR 4 money is probably veteran minimum with a minimal signing bonus. If he is able to get even a decent signing bonus and/or "just" 200,000 or 300,000 a year more, that is potentially huge for how he sets up the rest of his life.

Davis is looking to hit a pay day. Our best hope is that he prices himself out of the market. Jones could MAYBE fill his shoes, but he was never the same after his injury. Some people don't respond well to violent hits and a KR/PR DEFINITELY gets some violent hits. I say pay Davis what he wants because he showed hands as good as Walters PLUS intangibles and return abilities. After all the wasted money spent on various players over the years, why not spend some on a guy that can actually help the team. Maybe we could sue Carr for impersonating an NFL QB and reoup the $$...

 

[b0ng]

Davis is looking to hit a pay day. Our best hope is that he prices himself out of the market. Jones could MAYBE fill his shoes, but he was never the same after his injury. Some people don't respond well to violent hits and a KR/PR DEFINITELY gets some violent hits. I say pay Davis what he wants because he showed hands as good as Walters PLUS intangibles and return abilities. After all the wasted money spent on various players over the years, why not spend some on a guy that can actually help the team. Maybe we could sue Carr for impersonating an NFL QB and reoup the $$...

I think Rick Smith would be doing Mr. McNair a disservice if he let Davis bend the Texans over the barrel because of his contract. The fact is, that even if this is Davis's last contract, he's bounced around the league enough to know that any team that signs him to something better than #3 WR money, will expect him to bring it every game. I think the Texans would give him at least a year or so if for some reason he doesn't perform as well as he did last season.

I'm not worried about Davis honestly. If he thinks he can get over-the-top money then so be it, but I don't want the Texans to overpay him. Yes he is a nice return man to have, but it's not like we are totally devoid of KR players. Plus we still have to draft, so might as well let him run around the FA market seeing what he can get.

 

[kiwitexansfan]

Our current front office is too smart to be blackmailed by a one season wonder.

We made him, we can find someone else and make them too.

 

[TK_Gamer]

we have one of the best ST coaches in the league and 2 maybe 3 young recievers that could step in. I wouldnt pay him any more than hes worth, no.3 money.

 

[Maddict5]

heres a Q: if we could only keep one of AD or demps for reasonable money, who would you want to keep?


id say demps- jacoby can replace AD alot easier than replacing demps imo...

 

[brickman]

heres a Q: if we could only keep one of AD or demps for reasonable money, who would you want to keep?


id say demps- jacoby can replace AD alot easier than replacing demps imo...

I'm with you Maddict...... Demps.... it's a no brainer. Jacoby is young and in a year or two will be much better than AD IMO.

 

[ObsiWan]

we have one of the best ST coaches in the league and 2 maybe 3 young recievers that could step in. I wouldnt pay him any more than hes worth, no.3 money.

Hmmm... I agree with all who say, let him "test the waters" and if some knucklehead GM wants to pay him big bucks, more power to him.

I'll say it this way, I wouldn't pay him a whole lot more than we're paying Kevin Walter. And the only reason he's worth a bit more than KW is he does represent a threat at KR.

 

[Mike Kerns]

Lets not get involved in yet ANOTHER bad contract. Id hate to see AD go, but it isnt like we dont have the parts to plug in if he walks. Id rather keep some other players over him.