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Breaking News: Vick Indicted

Wow. Under this "leave of absence" scenario, can you imagine when the Texans travel to Atlanta with Schaub at QB and the Falcons have to trot out either Harrington or Culpepper? I think the home field advantage might even swing in our favor.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think Vick is going to take a plea bargain...
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At some point he has to weigh the cost of continuous coverage and a long drawn out deal vs. admitting wrong doing, asking for forgiveness and getting a set limit on a suspension so he can plan accordingly. America is forgiving, almost too forgiving at times when it comes to this stuff. I'd think a hard line stance, post-indictment going public would turn off even more people and bring more information to light.
 
TexanAddict said:
Wow. Under this "leave of absence" scenario, can you imagine when the Texans travel to Atlanta with Schaub at QB and the Falcons have to trot out either Harrington or Culpepper? I think the home field advantage might even swing in our favor.
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We can only hope considering what we did to Culpepper last year! :fans:
 
TexanAddict said:
Wow. Under this "leave of absence" scenario, can you imagine when the Texans travel to Atlanta with Schaub at QB and the Falcons have to trot out either Harrington or Culpepper? I think the home field advantage might even swing in our favor.
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Yeah, I think the Texans just got a 9th home game this season.
 
And we thought David Carr was a polarizing figure here in Houston !
I suspect any sentiments stirred up by DC in Houston would represent relative apathy compared to the passion and intensity of feelings happening in ATL right now over this issue.
But this is huge, bigger than you can imagine for ATL unless you know anything about that area. I lived there in the mid nineties and can tell you that the Braves owned that town and the Falcons were way behind back then in popularity before Vick arrived on the scene. But he single-handed turned everything around for the Falcons as far as fan support goes and is the greatest sports figure ever in ATL.
And as uncomfortable as it makes people feel and are reluctant to talk about it, racial division is the powerful fuel that is propelling this whole situation in ATL.
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BTW, people wonder about the origion and history of dogfighting but don't know that such things were (and obviously still are to some extent) of the culture of the old South. Doesn't Bob McNair's alma mater call themselves the Gamecocks ?
"A cockfight is a blood sport between two specially trained roosters held in a ring called a cockpit."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamecock
And I didn't say I approved of chickens fighting to the death, nor do I think chickens are the equivalent of dogs, anymore than dogs are equivalent to human beings.
 
this an mp3/podcast of Marcus Allen being interviewed by Herd on ESPN Radio. He had some really insightful things to say about the Vick situation and the whole 'gangsta' mentality amongst pro athletes today, specifically the NFL.

Allen has always been a pretty good guy and has seen his share of sports drama with the whole OJ thing a decade ago. If some of the young athletes would listen to some of the veterans, they could learn a lot.

http://podloc.andomedia.com/dloadTrack.mp3?prm=2125xhttp://espn-mp3-od.andomedia.com/espnpod2/espnradio/insider/herd/herd_07202007_6.mp3
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Vick should get suspended.. without pay... because I see this coming...:

Yo....Roger Goodell....

How come your "Dog Boy" Vick gets paid while waiting trial... and I'm not getting anything while I'm sitting down waiting trial? Doesn't sounds fair to me. I'm taking the NFL to Court because some players seem more equal than others.

Love ya!

PacMan Jones
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nunusguy said:
And we thought David Carr was a polarizing figure here in Houston !
I suspect any sentiments stirred up by DC in Houston would represent relative apathy compared to the passion and intensity of feelings happening in ATL right now over this issue.
But this is huge, bigger than you can imagine for ATL unless you know anything about that area. I lived there in the mid nineties and can tell you that the Braves owned that town and the Falcons were way behind back then in popularity before Vick arrived on the scene. But he single-handed turned everything around for the Falcons as far as fan support goes and is the greatest sports figure ever in ATL.
And as uncomfortable as it makes people feel and are reluctant to talk about it, racial division is the powerful fuel that is propelling this whole situation in ATL.
**
BTW, people wonder about the origion and history of dogfighting but don't know that such things were (and obviously still are to some extent) of the culture of the old South. Doesn't Bob McNair's alma mater call themselves the Gamecocks ?
"A cockfight is a blood sport between two specially trained roosters held in a ring called a cockpit."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamecock
And I didn't say I approved of chickens fighting to the death, nor do I think chickens are the equivalent of dogs, anymore than dogs are equivalent to human beings.
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That's essentially my whole problem with this case. It's OK to watch ESPN & spike TV or whatever & see guys sitting up in trees in camo shooting at Deer & Moose who are minding their own business. Or for one of our own presidents to go duck hunting shooting at ducks for sport or entertainment. That's all well and good & carries no jail time as long as you're "in season."

There's a double standard at work here & the same people wishing for all these bad things to happen to him b/c of his involvement in this are the same people who condone the above mentioned deadly sports & think that nothing is wrong with it.

Yes in the letter of the law, he is out right wrong but i feel if we're going to have all this outrage about what's happening to f$%#-ing dogs, then the same rule of thumb needs to be applied to all gods creatures.
 
Mr teX said:
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That's essentially my whole problem with this case. It's OK to watch ESPN & spike TV or whatever & see guys sitting up in trees in camo shooting at Deer & Moose who are minding their own business. Or for one of our own presidents to go duck hunting shooting at ducks for sport or entertainment. That's all well and good & carries no jail time as long as you're "in season."

There's a double standard at work here & the same people wishing for all these bad things to happen to him b/c of his involvement in this are the same people who condone the above mentioned deadly sports & think that nothing is wrong with it.

Yes in the letter of the law, he is out right wrong but i feel if we're going to have all this outrage about what's happening to f$%#-ing dogs, then the same rule of thumb needs to be applied to all gods creatures.
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You gotta be kiddin. Wait, no your not. :crazy:
 
Mr teX said:
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That's essentially my whole problem with this case. It's OK to watch ESPN & spike TV or whatever & see guys sitting up in trees in camo shooting at Deer & Moose who are minding their own business. Or for one of our own presidents to go duck hunting shooting at ducks for sport or entertainment. That's all well and good & carries no jail time as long as you're "in season."

There's a double standard at work here & the same people wishing for all these bad things to happen to him b/c of his involvement in this are the same people who condone the above mentioned deadly sports & think that nothing is wrong with it.

Yes in the letter of the law, he is out right wrong but i feel if we're going to have all this outrage about what's happening to f$%#-ing dogs, then the same rule of thumb needs to be applied to all gods creatures.
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My only question is: are you a vegan or not?
 
Koolaid Time said:
Vick should get suspended.. without pay... because I see this coming...:

Yo....Roger Goodell....

How come your "Dog Boy" Vick gets paid while waiting trial... and I'm not getting anything while I'm sitting down waiting trial? Doesn't sounds fair to me. I'm taking the NFL to Court because some players seem more equal than others.

Love ya!

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i agree with you 100% for crying out loud, Pac Man's lawyer was just on NFL Live on ESPN saying the exact same thing. Double standard anyone?
 
Joe Horn on NFL Live after the commercial break and he talked with Vick. Horn seems like an apologist but in his situation, you pretty much have to be till things play out.
 
Mr teX said:
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That's essentially my whole problem with this case. It's OK to watch ESPN & spike TV or whatever & see guys sitting up in trees in camo shooting at Deer & Moose who are minding their own business. Or for one of our own presidents to go duck hunting shooting at ducks for sport or entertainment. That's all well and good & carries no jail time as long as you're "in season."

There's a double standard at work here & the same people wishing for all these bad things to happen to him b/c of his involvement in this are the same people who condone the above mentioned deadly sports & think that nothing is wrong with it.

Yes in the letter of the law, he is out right wrong but i feel if we're going to have all this outrage about what's happening to f$%#-ing dogs, then the same rule of thumb needs to be applied to all gods creatures.
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don't tell me your equating deer hunting with an illegal dog fighting ring and the training and the inhumane evil things that this entails.

i am not a hunter but its mostly done for sport and the meat that it produces. its just the food chain at work but instead of spears we have rifles. dog fighting is a different thing altogether and has no social redeeming quality whatsoever. then when you take into account that its illegal and totally immoral, then it further damns him.

just dont make the argument that the two are equitable because nothing could be farther from the truth....

if your looking for a parallel go with the fur industry or seal clubbing....not deer hunting
 
The deer hunting argument / comparison is weak. I dont see owners of properties setting up rape stands for more deer reproduction. On the contrary, deer hunting is necessary for population control....
 
Second Honeymoon said:
don't tell me your equating deer hunting with an illegal dog fighting ring and the training and the inhumane evil things that this entails.

i am not a hunter but its mostly done for sport and the meat that it produces. its just the food chain at work but instead of spears we have rifles. dog fighting is a different thing altogether and has no social redeeming quality whatsoever. then when you take into account that its illegal and totally immoral, then it further damns him.

just dont make the argument that the two are equitable because nothing could be farther from the truth....

if your looking for a parallel go with the fur industry or seal clubbing....not deer hunting
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Meat is not needed to survive guy, furthermore hunting/killing deer/duck or whatever for "sport" isn't a "social redeeming quality" either. & if it's just the the food chain at work, I guess you'd be ok with a homeless guy cooking up a black lab on the side of the freeway b/c he needs something to eat right?

Yeah, it's illegal & that's about all anyone can say about it, but don't give me this morals garbage about how watching dogs kill each for sport is any less moral than bringing an unsuspecting deer into your crossaires.

& no i'm not a vegan, which is why i could care less about dogs being killed in dog fights strictly for money & entertainment. I only brought it up b/c of the double standard of society.
 
Texan_Bill said:
The deer hunting argument / comparison is weak. I dont see owners of properties setting up rape stands for more deer reproduction. On the contrary, deer hunting is necessary for population control....
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not since we covered that trapped deer in water and electrocuted him.

signed,
the vick apologist
 
Mr teX said:
Meat is not needed to survive guy, furthermore hunting/killing deer/duck or whatever for "sport" isn't a "social redeeming quality" either.
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ever hear of a little thing called the "food chain"? We've been eating critters since the start of time Pards. Where have you been?
 
Vinny said:
not since we covered that trapped deer in water and electrocuted him.

signed,
the vick apologist
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Oh, b/c we used painless bullets to kill deer & we only kill them if they wander into our scope range.

Yes, that was meant as sarcasm....
 
Vinny said:
ever hear of a little thing called the "food chain"? We've been eating critters since the start of time Pards. Where have you been?
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**** & dogfighting have been going on forever to guy, sorry that argument won't fly either....
 
To borrow from Scripture (courtesy of another thread), Genesis 9:1-4 states:

Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
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Thanks, Aik ... http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=694202&postcount=10
 
Mr teX said:
**** & dogfighting have been going on forever to guy, sorry that argument won't fly either....
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You claimed you weren't a vegan, so I'll clue you into something important. All that meat you eat daily doesn't die of old age somewhere. Talk about an argument that won't fly....the Wright Brothers wouldn't touch yours.
 
Vinny said:
You claimed you weren't a vegan, so I'll clue you into something important. All that meat you eat daily doesn't die of old age somewhere. Talk about an argument that won't fly....the Wright Brothers wouldn't touch yours.
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Me being a vegan really has nothing to do with it.....

Dude, i'm merely flipping, you guys' *&^% back on ya. You ready? here goes

** People hunt for alot of the same reasons people engage in dog fighting, for sport & entertainment & there is no way any of you can completely justify why hunting is done.**

All together now.....

& for the guy who quoted scripture, should i bring the countless examples of terrorist & religious extremists who kill & do whatever in the name of god, or wait for you to get a little bit better footing?
 
Mr teX said:
Dude, i'm merely flipping, you guys' *&^% back on ya. You ready? here goes

** People hunt for alot of the same reasons people engage in dog fighting, for sport & entertainment. **

All together now.....
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Does dog meat taste good? Does Ookie eat what he kills? 'Cause venison certainly does.

For the record, I am against trophy hunting, BUT I am not against killing and grilling...
 
Meat is not needed to survive guy, furthermore hunting/killing deer/duck or whatever for "sport" isn't a "social redeeming quality" either. & if it's just the the food chain at work, I guess you'd be ok with a homeless guy cooking up a black lab on the side of the freeway b/c he needs something to eat right?

Yeah, it's illegal & that's about all anyone can say about it, but don't give me this morals garbage about how watching dogs kill each for sport is any less moral than bringing an unsuspecting deer into your crossaires.

& no i'm not a vegan, which is why i could care less about dogs being killed in dog fights strictly for money & entertainment. I only brought it up b/c of the double standard of society.
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So you eat steaks and chicken right? As Vinny so eloquently pointed out, they didn't die of old age. Shooting a deer with a rifle equatable to two dogs fighting to death....laughable.
 
Mr teX said:
That's essentially my whole problem with this case. It's OK to watch ESPN & spike TV or whatever & see guys sitting up in trees in camo shooting at Deer & Moose who are minding their own business. Or for one of our own presidents to go duck hunting shooting at ducks for sport or entertainment. That's all well and good & carries no jail time as long as you're "in season."
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This is a classic straw man argument. You are trying to justify a felony with legal activity. But it doesn't change the fact that what these guys do to dogs for a blood sport is against federal law.

But on the face of it, just compare the two activities: one is a blood sport that uses cruelty and brutality to perpetuate the participants involvement. The other serves a practical purpose as a food source, and, I should point out, hunters are some of the biggest conservationists around (btw, approx. 90% of Texas Parks and Wildlife budget is paid for with hunting/fishing licenses). Without hunters, the deer population would over-expand and we'd have a lot of starving deer on our hands.

How about we just let the crime stand on it's own without trying to morally equivocate it to something else? You lack any credibility trying to compare the two, and save for a few Vick lovers, nobody sees or agrees with your attempted point.
 
eriadoc said:
Genesis 9:1-4 states:

Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it
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Tex. You just got owned by the word of God. From the Book of Genesis no less. That kind of stuff doesn't happen everyday.

oh man, I lost so much respect for Joe Horn in his interview. He came off horrible and making excuses for Vick and claiming that Vick 'needs' football.

who cares what Vick needs? if he cared so much about football he wouldnt be involved in this evil and inhumane lifestyle.
 
Chance_C said:
So you eat steaks and chicken right? As Vinny so eloquently pointed out, they didn't die of old age. Shooting a deer with a rifle equatable to two dogs fighting to death....laughable.
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I don't see what's so laughable,
you guys are the ones acting like there was a reference to dog fighting in the commandments or something....


i can see it now,

& for the 11th commandment god said "thou shall not engage in dog fighting..." well maybe that's a little funny LOL.
 
Mr teX said:
I don't see what's so laughable,
you guys are the ones acting like there was a reference to dog fighting in the commandments or something....


i can see it now,

& for the 11th commandment god said "thou shall not engage in dog fighting..." LOL.
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Too bad you had to show us who you really are...I must say that it's an ugly snapshot.
 
Double Barrel said:
This is a classic straw man argument. You are trying to justify a felony with legal activity. But it doesn't change the fact that what these guys do to dogs for a blood sport is against federal law.

But on the face of it, just compare the two activities: one is a blood sport that uses cruelty and brutality to perpetuate the participants involvement. The other serves a practical purpose as a food source, and, I should point out, hunters are some of the biggest conservationists around (btw, approx. 90% of Texas Parks and Wildlife budget is paid for with hunting/fishing licenses). Without hunters, the deer population would over-expand and we'd have a lot of starving deer on our hands.

How about we just let the crime stand on it's own without trying to morally equivocate it to something else? You lack any credibility trying to compare the two, and save for a few Vick lovers, nobody sees or agrees with your attempted point.
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Tex. You just got owned by Double Barrel. Not exactly God, but still pretty damning.
 
Mr teX said:
& for the guy who quoted scripture, should i bring the countless examples of terrorist & religious extremists who kill & do whatever in the name of god, or wait for you to get a little bit better footing?
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Bring in whatever you want; I don't rightly give a damn. Animals are here for people to do with as they will. Animal rights activists hate to hear that, but it's the truth. Society as a whole determines what is and is not acceptable behavior towards animals. Dogs get more rights than deer. Sucks to be a deer, oh well. Here's Carl Cohen's counterpoint presentation of Tom Regan's case for animal rights. It illustrates very well why you and the other animal rights nut jobs are simply wrong.
 
Mr teX said:
& no i'm not a vegan, which is why i could care less about dogs being killed in dog fights strictly for money & entertainment. I only brought it up b/c of the double standard of society.
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So if your going to say a double standard exists between hunting and dog fighting, wouldn't one therefore exsist between dog fighting and animal slaugthering for food?

Contrary to what you may think most hunter's are responsible people, who a) eat or donate what they bring down and b) go way out of there way to reduce the suffering of the animals they bring down. Hunters do not kill if a animal performs poorly in a fight, not do they set-up rape stands...nervermind if you don't get this by now I can't explain in suffeciently enough for you to.:gun:
 
If you're looking for an activity to compare it to, I'd say that the closest thing I can think of to dog fighting would be bull fighting. I'm not sure why 'civilized' countries like Spain still allow it to be honest. But it's illegal in the U.S., as well.
 
Vinny said:
Too bad you had to show us who you really are...I must say that it's an ugly snapshot.
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Come on Vinny, did that really get under your skin that bad? For what it's worth I apologize to all, but come on man, the way you guys are vehemently defending a sport where the end result is the same as that of dog fighting is ridiculous imo.

Yeah there are some people, who hunt b/c they need the meat & there are farms where chickens are bred exclusively for mass distribution & what not. But how can you justify the guys who hunts just to put those antlers on the wall? you can't man.

Vick's gonna get what's coming to him, I promise you all (LOL) but to go on and on and on about how cruel dog fighting is when virtually the same crap is legal for deer,duck,dove or whatever sounds a bit hypocritical.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
i agree with you 100% for crying out loud, Pac Man's lawyer was just on NFL Live on ESPN saying the exact same thing. Double standard anyone?
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And that's where today just goes right over the friggin edge. So far I've agreed with Hillary Clinton in one thread, PETA and Al Sharpton in another, and now I think that the lawyer for Pacman has a good point.

I'm going to go get a thermometer and check my temperature. I think I must be coming down with something.
 
I don't see what's so laughable,
you guys are the ones acting like there was a reference to dog fighting in the commandments or something....
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Sorry it's so hard to understand. I would try to spell it out for you, but actually it has been several times. Sometimes common sense or shall I say reality is really hard to grasp.

Try reading this one more time (thanks DB)

But on the face of it, just compare the two activities: one is a blood sport that uses cruelty and brutality to perpetuate the participants involvement. The other serves a practical purpose as a food source, and, I should point out, hunters are some of the biggest conservationists around (btw, approx. 90% of Texas Parks and Wildlife budget is paid for with hunting/fishing licenses). Without hunters, the deer population would over-expand and we'd have a lot of starving deer on our hands.
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Ask the people in Austin, and Cape Royale right here on Lake Livingston about overcrowded deer populations.
 
Mr teX said:
Yeah there are some people, who hunt b/c they need the meat & there are farms where chickens are bred exclusively for mass distribution & what not. But how can you justify the guys who hunts just to put those antlers on the wall? you can't man.
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Dude, you're not getting it. The overwhelming majority of hunters are taught one shot to kill. There is no more cruelty involved than what they do at a slaughterhouse to thousands of cows every day. (Unless you are hardcore vegan, you have absolutely no moral authority when you let someone else deal with killing your food on your behalf.)

In case you really don't understand: hunters do not revel in the suffering of their prey. They do not inflict cruel and brutal actions on their prey. They do not do anything beyond what is required to kill the deer. What happens to it after that is to a dead animal carcass.

A blood sport, on the other hand, is based upon cruelty as entertainment. Beyond what they did to the dogs that won't fight, the sport itself is perpetuated for hours and hours, until the point that two very bloody and wounded dogs kills the other. And people enjoy it like we would enjoy a football game!

Can you honestly not see a difference? Or are you just being a troll to get a rise out of folks? It's one or the other...perhaps a third option would be that you just lack the mental capacity to understand the difference between legal hunting and illegal dog fighting.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
So if your going to say a double standard exists between hunting and dog fighting, wouldn't one therefore exsist between dog fighting and animal slaugthering for food?

Contrary to what you may think most hunter's are responsible people, who a) eat or donate what they bring down and b) go way out of there way to reduce the suffering of the animals they bring down. Hunters do not kill if a animal performs poorly in a fight, not do they set-up rape stands...nervermind if you don't get this by now I can't explain in suffeciently enough for you to.:gun:
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So i take it you think folks like PETA & the like are nut jobs when they protest at slaughter houses & places like that huh?

It's OK that they're on Vicks' ass about his dog fighting ring b/c i don't like that, when they're protesting at these slaughterhouses its "you guys are crazy, we need that T-bone steak to survive, mankind depends on those short ribs!" give me a break.

I'm done with this, i see you guys when camp starts up.
 
Yeah there are some people, who hunt b/c they need the meat & there are farms where chickens are bred exclusively for mass distribution & what not. But how can you justify the guys who hunts just to put those antlers on the wall? you can't man.
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Well if said hunter donates his meat to the organization called "Hunter's for the Hungry" or even to a friend to eat then yes you sure can. I'm sure Mike Vick and his cohorts weren't delivering the dead dogs to the homeless man under the bridge that you referred to earlier. Once again, comparing hunting for food to killing dogs by means of electrocution, drowning, shooting, beating, or hanging is LAUGHABLE.
 
So i take it you think folks like PETA & the like are nut jobs when they protest at slaughter houses & places like that huh?
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They are nut jobs man. The problem is that several of us are agreeing with the nut jobs in the Vick case, and it becomes worrisome when you agree with nut jobs.
 
Mr teX said:
Come on Vinny, did that really get under your skin that bad? For what it's worth I apologize to all, but come on man, the way you guys are vehemently defending a sport where the end result is the same as that of dog fighting is ridiculous imo.

Yeah there are some people, who hunt b/c they need the meat & there are farms where chickens are bred exclusively for mass distribution & what not. But how can you justify the guys who hunts just to put those antlers on the wall? you can't man.

Vick's gonna get what's coming to him, I promise you all (LOL) but to go on and on and on about how cruel dog fighting is when virtually the same crap is legal for deer,duck,dove or whatever sounds a bit hypocritical.
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The end result is not the same as dog fighting. It's nothing like the same as dog fighting. Nobody fights pit bulls for food. Hunting, even hunting for sport which I personally do not approve of results in somebody getting fed. If a hunter kills because he needs the meat to feed his family then his justification for killing animals is obvious. If he hunts because he simply enjoys eating deer, duck, etc; then his justification is no less valid. He's doing no worse than you are I do when we pull into a McDonalds and have ourselves a big fat cow sandwich.

A hunter who shoots a buck with an enormous rack and then cuts the deers head off, leaving the rest of the body to rot will be looked upon by his fellow hunters in much the same manner as somebody who enjoys watching a pair of dogs tear each other to pieces. He's simply a turd and that's all you can say about him. If Michael Vick proves to be guilty of this then he's a turd. If he proves to be guilty of this and someone wants to defend him then that person is in my eyes equally a turd.

Saying that deer hunting is virtually the same as dog fighting demonstrates either an enormous amount of ignorance about the two activities or it reveals a critical flaw in the makeup of the person who can't see the difference between the two.
 
Mr teX said:
Come on Vinny, did that really get under your skin that bad? For what it's worth I apologize to all, but come on man, the way you guys are vehemently defending a sport where the end result is the same as that of dog fighting is ridiculous imo.

Yeah there are some people, who hunt b/c they need the meat & there are farms where chickens are bred exclusively for mass distribution & what not. But how can you justify the guys who hunts just to put those antlers on the wall? you can't man.

Vick's gonna get what's coming to him, I promise you all (LOL) but to go on and on and on about how cruel dog fighting is when virtually the same crap is legal for deer,duck,dove or whatever sounds a bit hypocritical.
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What I don't understand about your argument is your comparing an act of cruelty, to an act of hunting. I know many hunters who have Antlers on their wall. However they also keep the meat as a source of food. Hell my Uncle is a taxadermist. But to say that dog fighting is remotely the same is ludicrous.I don't know anyone personally that eats dog, do you? You could have a strange angle on this if you are a vegetarian, but still they are not the same in any shape or form.
 
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