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Odd that Carr hasn't been moved?

Second Honeymoon said:
Carr was going to be resigned regardless of Kubiak. So in less than 2 weeks Kubiak was supposed to leave Denver, assemble a coaching staff, begin preparing for draft, AND make a decision on David. David was as good as signed. The ink wasnt even dry on Kubiak's contract by the time Carr was resigned. Carr was resigned by Casserley and McNair, and I stand by that. Kubiak gave an endorsement of Carr, that is true, but that was part and parcel of ANY coach coming to the Texans. It was obvious McNair already had his mind made up on Carr because Dan Reeves had already advised McNair to draft Young and McNair didn't listen. Due to the fact that Reeves wasnt interviewing for a job, he was reportedly the only guy to give McNair an honest answer.

as for the rest, just do me a favor and go wherever Carr goes. we need Texans fans not Carr fans.
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Keep running that same old tired line. So when Carr starts next year are you going to gnaw your leg off,like some wild animal caught in a trap? Because that's what you sound like in most of your posts rabid animal.
 
SESupergenius said:
Nope, not true. Kubiak had to assess Carr just like every other player on the roster, but with Carr it was more of a factor considering there was a deadline looming on his status with the team

"I'll find a way to make him successful because it's in him," Kubiak said.
"I'm a David Carr fan. I like the skills he has. There is no reason that
David shouldn't be a successful quarterback."

The Texans must decide by the Pro Bowl if they want to pick up the option on
Carr's contract to keep him with the team. ​


That the rigors of an NFL a new head coach, but Carr's deadline was approaching faster than the draft. I'm pretty sure that Kubiak prepared to leave Denver well before Feb., so I'm guessing he had prepared for that way before they announced it. Just a hunch.

Kubiak had a whole month and half before Carr was signed, you act like he was sitting around.

Here is Reeve's other quote on Young:
"I don't know if they ever asked my advice, but I looked at (Young) and told them that he was a guy they would have to consider even with David Carr there," Reeves said."I was happy for him, because I know there were so many questions that came out about him. Is he going to be able to handle the next level and so forth?

"I was happy for him."​
That doesn't even remotely say to dump Carr and draft Vince Young now does it? To put it in perspective, what was Reeves' quotes on the other draftees or did you all think that Reeves had his one eye on VY. I doubt we see complete reporting like that instead of the agenda running Chronicles take.


And in turn, you can follow Carr wherever he goes and paint it black, you sure don't have anything to post here outside of that. What kind of Texans fan are you going to be if Carr stays? A whining crybaby that didn't get his way, I can see that. You will be just like John McClain.
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you can read whatever you want. if you don't think working with Carr was part and parcel of the Texan's job you are totally out of touch with reality....which is part and parcel of being a Carr homer
 
My Hero said:
Keep running that same old tired line. So when Carr starts next year are you going to gnaw your leg off,like some wild animal caught in a trap? Because that's what you sound like in most of your posts rabid animal.
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another Carr homer from California......haha im really surprised you are a Carr homer errrr supporter

just please please leave our forum once 'your hero' gets thrown out like so much garbage....your obviously a Carr fan and not a Texans fan

California Carr fans are a dime a dozen and soon to be extinct around these parts......you wont be missed
 
Before the draft, right after the draft or during Young's little win streak?

What did he say about Reggie Bush or Williams?
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It was before the draft. And he liked Bush and Williams. He would have gone with Young or Bush other than Williams (for the number one pick).

Of course he said this after the fact to espn, but I don't THINK he was lying.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
you can read whatever you want. if you don't think working with Carr was part and parcel of the Texan's job you are totally out of touch with reality....which is part and parcel of being a Carr homer
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Call me all the names you want, I am just sticking with facts. I seem to be more of a Texans fan than just a specific player, because when David Carr leaves I still have a lot to talk about other than him, unlike you. You can go live in your Soap Opera world with the rest of the McClainonites.

Funny that 610 is now talking about this exact subject right now and how they are getting it wrong.
 
jerek said:
I keep seeing this tired line touted over and over again, and yet it seems as totally unsubstantiated now as it did when I first read it. Who besides McLame (i.e. someone actually in a position to know) has actually come out and said or even implied this? What facts--other than David Carr still being here, which I know in the eyes of many begs a conspiracy theory--support this claim? If there was a quote I missed or something of the sort, please, someone, point me to it. "I don't have a source, but I heard it on the radio once" doesn't count.
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OK, so then tell me this. If that wasn't the case, why would they work with him for a year and say he is the man and can take us places and then a year later Kubes seems to be looking for another guy?Because a 3 year extension seems to say that you can fix him if you had something to say about it-.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
just please follow 'your hero' to wherever his tired sorry ass goes.....

but it wont come to that because anyone who isnt a Carr homer knows that Carr's days are numbered as a Texan.

anyone who lists carr as their hero isn't even worth arguing with though....just another low expectation having and clueless Houston sports fan

dime a dozen
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Oh I am sure you expected him gone before now,hasn't happened. It's not going to happen this year,sorry your stuck with at least one more year. You can keep hoping but the time has come and gone. No Plummer,Garcia,Ramsey or anybody else is going to save you from another year of DC.
 
afcman said:
It was before the draft. And he liked Bush and Williams. He would have gone with Young or Bush other than Williams (for the number one pick).

Of course he said this after the fact to espn, but I don't THINK he was lying.
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That is my point, it's ok to like VY but the Chronicle does this whole agenda thing by skewing the news that Reeves just wanted VY all along. They make it seemt that Reeves only had eyes for him. It's just careless reporting and they are trying to be the story instead of just reporting it.
 
My Hero said:
Oh I am sure you expected him gone before now,hasn't happened. It's not going to happen this year,sorry your stuck with at least one more year. You can keep hoping but the time has come and gone. No Plummer,Garcia,Ramsey or anybody else is going to save you from another year of DC.
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Can I just ask why you are so angry and why you want so badly to put a square peg in a round hole. If you really want success for the guy wouldn't you want him in a better situation where the fans and his own teammates weren't calling him out?This seems personal.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
another Carr homer from California......haha im really surprised you are a Carr homer errrr supporter

just please please leave our forum once 'your hero' gets thrown out like so much garbage....your obviously a Carr fan and not a Texans fan

California Carr fans are a dime a dozen and soon to be extinct around these parts......you wont be missed
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I'm a great supporter of the Texans organization,you don't think that only Houston supports the franchise do you? Spew whatever you can from that hole in your face,but unless you get a job with the front office or coaching staff your just blowing hot air out of both ends.
 
Texan_Bill said:
You are correct. Earl refused to be a part of anything Tennessee Titan. Also you can add O.A. "Bum" Phillips to that list as well. They both claimed that they were "Houston" Oilers.
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That you Earl and Bum. Bud Adams and the Tenn Titans are a classless organization. It's amazing to me that the guy has the balls to turn his back on a city that made him millions for several decades. Face it Bud, you were a terrible politician! The honorable thing to do is to hang the banners in Houston, where they actually played.
 
My Hero said:
Oh I am sure you expected him gone before now,hasn't happened. It's not going to happen this year,sorry your stuck with at least one more year. You can keep hoping but the time has come and gone. No Plummer,Garcia,Ramsey or anybody else is going to save you from another year of DC.
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put your 'money' where your mouth is. If Carr is shipped off, you can never come back to this forum. If Carr is not moved or released before the season, I will never come back to this forum. Sound good? And I challenge any Carr homer to the same wager. That way once Carr is inevitably traded for a loaf of bread, all you Carr homers will have an excuse as to why you stopped coming around after 'your hero' was released/traded/etc.
 
My Hero said:
I'm a great supporter of the Texans organization,you don't think that only Houston supports the franchise do you? Spew whatever you can from that hole in your face,but unless you get a job with the front office or coaching staff your just blowing hot air out of both ends.
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just promise us all you will leave when Carr does...you are obviously a California Carr Homer...dime a dozen...just go away
 
My Hero said:
I'm a great supporter of the Texans organization,you don't think that only Houston supports the franchise do you? Spew whatever you can from that hole in your face,but unless you get a job with the front office or coaching staff your just blowing hot air out of both ends.
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So what member of the Carr family do we have the pleasure or meeting this time ? :)

ps: I guess the nick should have been My Hero75?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
put your 'money' where your mouth is. If Carr is shipped off, you can never come back to this forum. If Carr is not moved or released before the season, I will never come back to this forum. Sound good? And I challenge any Carr homer to the same wager. That way once Carr is inevitably traded for a loaf of bread, all you Carr homers will have an excuse as to why you stopped coming around after 'your hero' was released/traded/etc.
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That great, ban supporters of the Texans. Nice.

I trust you as much as I trust John McClain to give us solid factual information. No thanks.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Can I just ask why you are so angry and why you want so badly to put a square peg in a round hole. If you really want success for the guy wouldn't you want him in a better situation where the fans and his own teammates weren't calling him out?This seems personal.
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I'm not angry and it's not personal, I should be able to respond with the same vigor and passion as anybody that has an opposing position.

If the front office and coaching staff decide to cut or trade David Carr,that move will have all of my support. Just like releasing Moulds, Dunta is the only teamate that has called David by name. Moulds is already a memory and not a teamate.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
just promise us all you will leave when Carr does...you are obviously a California Carr Homer...dime a dozen...just go away
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Wow so If you are a Carr supporter you from California????????? LOL freakin' unbelievable.

Stick to name calling, everything else you say just runs down our legs on the backside.
 
My Hero said:
I'm not angry and it's not personal, I should be able to respond with the same vigor and passion as anybody that has an opposing position.

If the front office and coaching staff decide to cut or trade David Carr,that move will have all of my support. Just like releasing Moulds, Dunta is the only teamate that has called David by name. Moulds is already a memory and not a teamate.
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Just asking. There seemed to be alot of name calling going around and I wasn't sure. I will say, considering the rebuttal to Dunta has been deafeningly quiet, I don't think he is the only one who thinks it and others who are gone have said it.
 
My Hero said:
I'm not angry and it's not personal, I should be able to respond with the same vigor and passion as anybody that has an opposing position.

If the front office and coaching staff decide to cut or trade David Carr,that move will have all of my support. Just like releasing Moulds, Dunta is the only teamate that has called David by name. Moulds is already a memory and not a teamate.
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i completely agree, Rep your Way!
 
SESupergenius said:
They went after him, but obviously not too hard. If the Texans were serious about changing Carr out, they would have paid for another starting QB.
could be that the Texans couldn't say he was the starter or not. Once again, they would have paid to have another QB, not just wing it going into preseason.
Carr won't be cracking on Dunta for his whole 2 int's last year, he's kinda got a little class. It's a team game.

They did re-sign him last season, so there is your vote of confidence.
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the Texans did try hard to replace DC by courting Garcia publicly and trying to move on Plummer. those players likely would have been starters here, not just high priced motivational speakers.

any goodwill that was granted DC with the extension has pretty much burned off now. i dont think the front office could honestly feel the same way about DC this offseason as they did last year.
 
Malloy said:
So what member of the Carr family do we have the pleasure or meeting this time ? :)

ps: I guess the nick should have been My Hero75?
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Oh, I am so sorry. Do I have to be a family member to have a point of view that differs from MB posters. My allegiance will follow the course of the franchise,if they draft Quinn that's great. I know it comes from the wrong side of the tracks to have any compassion for Carr.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
put your 'money' where your mouth is. If Carr is shipped off, you can never come back to this forum. If Carr is not moved or released before the season, I will never come back to this forum. Sound good? And I challenge any Carr homer to the same wager. That way once Carr is inevitably traded for a loaf of bread, all you Carr homers will have an excuse as to why you stopped coming around after 'your hero' was released/traded/etc.
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Your on! I didn't know it would be so easy to get you to leave.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Just asking. There seemed to be alot of name calling going around and I wasn't sure. I will say, considering the rebuttal to Dunta has been deafeningly quiet, I don't think he is the only one who thinks it and others who are gone have said it.
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I'm not sure I called any names,please quote me if I did.

So Carr has enough class not to submit to infighting with his teamates.
 
dirty steve said:
the Texans did try hard to replace DC by courting Garcia publicly and trying to move on Plummer. those players likely would have been starters here, not just high priced motivational speakers.

any goodwill that was granted DC with the extension has pretty much burned off now. i dont think the front office could honestly feel the same way about DC this offseason as they did last year.
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I guess Garcia was brought in last year to be the likely starter for Philadelphia as well. Could it be that the Texans want a good team and bringing in as much talent as they can is a good thing? If Carr beat out Garcia, wouldn't everyone think that it's still a great situation. Nobody EVER stated that Garcia was brought in to the the starter. Competition is always good. Plummer was a backup and more than likely will continue to be because he won't be quaranteed a starting spot.
 
SESupergenius said:
Wow so If you are a Carr supporter you from California????????? LOL freakin' unbelievable.

Stick to name calling, everything else you say just runs down our legs on the backside.
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Wow.... you'd think someone named SESupergenius would be able to figure out why one poster would call another poster a California Carr lover.

Especially when that other poster has Clovis, California listed as his location.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
I think he has earned it and AJ and him(SAGE ROSENFLS) have been working out a lot together this offseason. That makes me smile as a Texans fan.
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I was just wondering where you got this from? I'm not saying you are wrong but I'd like to know exactly how you came about this information?

What is David Carr doing?
 
SESupergenius said:
I guess Garcia was brought in last year to be the likely starter for Philadelphia as well. Could it be that the Texans want a good team and bringing in as much talent as they can is a good thing? If Carr beat out Garcia, wouldn't everyone think that it's still a great situation. Nobody EVER stated that Garcia was brought in to the the starter. Competition is always good. Plummer was a backup and more than likely will continue to be because he won't be quaranteed a starting spot.
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I think we all know Garcia was going to be a back up last year.

But this year, when our GM said he was looking to upgrade the position, we were pretty sure that Garcia & Plummer were/are looked at as upgrades.
 
thunderkyss said:
Wow.... you'd think someone named SESupergenius would be able to figure out why one poster would call another poster a California Carr lover.

Especially when that other poster has Clovis, California listed as his location.
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Well when you make a blanket statement like that in a forum you are referring to group as a whole unless specificly naming an individual. See not so hard.
 
Elle said:
He's dug in somewhere. I'd bet my $3.75 in my jeans pocket that he's working long days with a coach or trainer. That's why there are no "I saw DC" threads running amuck.?
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FYI - Hulk75 said he was playing golf at Red Stone Friday...
 
SESupergenius said:
This is going to be interesting. I doubt he keeps to his word however.
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nothing interesting. if you don't 'trust' me, you can politely ask any moderator to be the 'muscle'. if you are so sure of yourself, what are you worried about?

FWIW - just the fact that you wont risk leaving this forum for good does make me feel you may have some Texan fan in ya after all ;)
 
SESupergenius said:
Well when you make a blanket statement like that in a forum you are referring to group as a whole unless specificly naming an individual. See not so hard.
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well, in context of that post you quoted, he quoted another poster and called him a California Carr lover.

Just like I have no business in this argument, you had no dog in that race.

MyHero is A CaliCarrLover.

You're just an enigma wrapped in a conundrum, surrounded by mystery.
 
My Hero said:
I didn't know that I needed to hide my location in order to avoid the hatred. LOL
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It's not hatred to call a fat man fat. Or a short man short. Or a bad QB a Bad QB, or a California Carr Fan a California Carr Fan.
 
My Hero said:
I didn't know that I needed to hide my location in order to avoid the hatred. LOL
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put it this way, if you are a Texan fan from California, you wouldn't be picked for any jury pool regarding a case against David Carr. FWIW - I dont hate YOU or David Carr, I hate the idea that some people are so deluded that they think he is any good after five years of witness.
 
I have just read the last few pages of this thread but has anyone mentioned that Carr will probably be traded on draft day? For some reason my gut tells me Washington will have something to do with it. Even if he does not get a first day pick, if he is just used to trade back with some round pick for more choices, I am so cool with that. If we only add Quinn or Kolb and use Sage as a stop gap starter, that also is cool with me. Sorry for stirring this thread in a different direction but I get so sick of the carr sucks crap.
 
wrestler4life said:
I think that we can speculate all we want, but until it actually happens, DC is our starter and we need to get over it.
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In reality I think thats correct. He was publicly told he had 2yrs in this system. This coming season is #2, the 100% MAKE or BREAK season.

They will take a Beck, Stanton or Kolb in the 2/3/4 round. Depends who they like most and how far they want to reach for that guy. I doubt a 2nd rd QB...but if they don't think he'll be in the 3rd when they pick...maybe.

Then if Carr drops the ball(no pun), they can throw in Sage and pray. Then cut/trade Carr and get a pick for him I would think. And start the pick for this year in 2008-2009 season.

I belive it's what has been said on Carr not what we feel or think. And it has let him stay around and see what happens. Kubes said he had the tools, he just needed to make better reads at times. Everyone has said he can make all the throws. So, maybe they are being honest and letting him return for 1 more year. Better or worse, and see what happens.

After all, they didn't end up with a better QB yet, and they have yet to say Sage is better. So, looks pretty clear whats going on. I don't rule out a draft day trade, but it would be for Carr and a 3rd rd, for our #8. Because nobody is going to trade us Carr and a pick for another QB we feel will fit the team better. It would cost us Carr and #8 and then we'd get QB"X" a 3rd rd pick and their 1st rd.
 
Elle said:
Maybe he was. Does that lead you to believe he's worried about his job? Guys play golf to chill and have a good time with friends.

If my job was absolutely gone, I wouldn't be playing golf. That's just me. I don't know where he is or what he's going. I find it curious that the media hasn't produced a DC move that holds water. His brother says he's out playing golf. It doesn't mean he hasn't been working his game somewhere to become what Kubes or the FO wanted him to be.

This is food for thought.
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I don't think his job is gone, he will just be playing for a different team. In the corprate world it's more like being reasigned or transfered. He knows everything is beyound his control and just wants his next assignment.
 
MATRIX said:
In reality I think thats correct. He was publicly told he had 2yrs in this system. This coming season is #2, the 100% MAKE or BREAK season.

They will take a Beck, Stanton or Kolb in the 2/3/4 round. Depends who they like most and how far they want to reach for that guy. I doubt a 2nd rd QB...but if they don't think he'll be in the 3rd when they pick...maybe.

Then if Carr drops the ball(no pun), they can throw in Sage and pray. Then cut/trade Carr and get a pick for him I would think. And start the pick for this year in 2008-2009 season.

I belive it's what has been said on Carr not what we feel or think. And it has let him stay around and see what happens. Kubes said he had the tools, he just needed to make better reads at times. Everyone has said he can make all the throws. So, maybe they are being honest and letting him return for 1 more year. Better or worse, and see what happens.

After all, they didn't end up with a better QB yet, and they have yet to say Sage is better. So, looks pretty clear whats going on. I don't rule out a draft day trade, but it would be for Carr and a 3rd rd, for our #8. Because nobody is going to trade us Carr and a pick for another QB we feel will fit the team better. It would cost us Carr and #8 and then we'd get QB"X" a 3rd rd pick and their 1st rd.
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It might sound silly but I think there is a reason Carr is not on the banner, I know McLame has had a lot of influence but still I don't see him back.
 
thunderkyss said:
well, in context of that post you quoted, he quoted another poster and called him a California Carr lover.

Just like I have no business in this argument, you had no dog in that race.

MyHero is A CaliCarrLover.

You're just an enigma wrapped in a conundrum, surrounded by mystery.
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Here, let me drag you to school. In the context you are referring to he challenged "any Carr homer to the same wager." Thus incorporating a group of people, not just an individual. So really, it is only YOU that has no business in this argument.
 
Elle said:
Maybe he was. Does that lead you to believe he's worried about his job? Guys play golf to chill and have a good time with friends.

If my job was absolutely gone, I wouldn't be playing golf. That's just me. I don't know where he is or what he's going. I find it curious that the media hasn't produced a DC move that holds water. His brother says he's out playing golf. It doesn't mean he hasn't been working his game somewhere to become what Kubes or the FO wanted him to be.

This is food for thought.
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Hey Elle, I don't know if you caught this thread http://forums.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=36343 or not. Check it out if you haven't...

And no, it does not lead me to believe anything other than as beautiful as last week was, I wish I had a chance to get out and play a round or four with some buds and throw back some adult beverages..
 
cj5776 said:
I have just read the last few pages of this thread but has anyone mentioned that Carr will probably be traded on draft day? For some reason my gut tells me Washington will have something to do with it. Even if he does not get a first day pick, if he is just used to trade back with some round pick for more choices, I am so cool with that. If we only add Quinn or Kolb and use Sage as a stop gap starter, that also is cool with me. Sorry for stirring this thread in a different direction but I get so sick of the carr sucks crap.
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That is still a possibility, it was just that the rumor was started a week ago and many of the media picked up on this and made it seem that it was going to happen soon.
 
SESupergenius said:
That is still a possibility, it was just that the rumor was started a week ago and many of the media picked up on this and made it seem that it was going to happen soon.
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There is so many people who always buy into the the crap the meadia feeds instead of taking it at face value. That is the only thing I love about McLame, he obvously is afraid to say something Texans fans do not want to hear so he spins facts in ways that stirs pots instead of just being objective. If we had a real beat reporter I know I would spent less time on the MBs. Thank you McLame.
 
cj5776 said:
There is so many people who always buy into the the crap the meadia feeds instead of taking it at face value. That is the only thing I love about McLame, he obvously is afraid to say something Texans fans do not want to hear so he spins facts in ways that stirs pots instead of just being objective. If we had a real beat reporter I know I would spent less time on the MBs. Thank you McLame.
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You have it completely wrong. McLame is a great beat writer.... For the Tennessee Titans.
 
wow I didn't know I could be a Texan fan and also a Carr fan or I could be a Texan fan and not a Carr fan..

thanks SH ...never knew our feeble single cell minds couldn't handle complicated situations (be a fan of one or the other or a fan of both)
 
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