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Calvin Johnson one of greatest prospects ever

I don't care if he has half the brains of tweedle-dee or tweedle-dum. The Titans made a good move by changing their playbook, and they missed the play-offs by a blocked punt. I'll take that over our building version 6.0 any day.

CJ looks awesome. "one of the greatest prospects ever" may be laying it on too thick, but you have to understand that I am a Texans fan, and the Texans tend to pass on the "greatest player in x amount of years" type of players.
 
kastofsna said:
the guy has a track record of the playbook being dumbed down. but the younglovers will deny it no matter what. HE'S A WINNER DERF
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And you have a track record of just about everything you say being completely wrong. Your words aren't worth the electronic memory its taking to store them. Go on folks, pull up some of kasty's posts from about this time last year and read his "expert" spewage.
 
OSQ said:
I don't care if he has half the brains of tweedle-dee or tweedle-dum. The Titans made a good move by changing their playbook, and they missed the play-offs by a blocked punt. I'll take that over our building version 6.0 any day.
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a blocked punt? i thought it was young's 39.9 passer rating and 2 INT's that caused them to miss the playoffs. blew it in the clutch.
 
mexican_texan said:
Okay, which of his posts are wrong? Playbooks were dumbed down, or "customized," for VY.
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Ignore the vince young tennessee stuff. Yes, the playbook was changed for vince. Im talking about his draft stuff last year, his commentary all this year, and basically pretty much everything he says. He's wrong about Vince too, but thats a complete side issue. This guy is as right as often as a lottery winner
 
swtbound07 said:
Ignore the vince young tennessee stuff. Yes, the playbook was changed for vince. Im talking about his draft stuff last year, his commentary all this year, and basically pretty much everything he says. He's wrong about Vince too, but thats a complete side issue. This guy is as right as often as a lottery winner
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I see. My memory isn't great, so I don't remember anything of his from last year, so I can't talk.
 
mexican_texan said:
Okay, which of his posts are wrong? Playbooks were dumbed down, or "customized," for VY.
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There is nothing wrong with being wrong. Heck, if we only posted if we were right I'd only have God and perhaps Love_ya_blue left on board talking to each other. I mean, what's the fun in that? Speculation brings putting yourself out there for the others to pick apart, but calling yourself the board guru and not accepting your history of less than astute observations...well, creates tons of unintentional humor.
 
i'm wrong about one or two things and swt goes overboard with the exaggerating. but it's okay. his obsession is obvious. everytime i posts, he makes a comment. and he's made a few threads about me before. it's kinda cute, but weird.
 
Vinny said:
There is nothing wrong with being wrong. Heck, if we only posted if we were right I'd only have God and perhaps Love_ya_blue left on board talking to each other. I mean, what's the fun in that? Speculation brings putting yourself out there for the others to pick apart, but calling yourself the board guru and not accepting your history of less than astute observations...well, creates tons of unintentional humor.
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As far as the guru thing, YoungTexansFan surpasses him, but as I said, I don't recall much from him from last year.
 
kastofsna said:
i'm wrong about one or two things and swt goes overboard with the exaggerating. but it's okay. his obsession is obvious. everytime i posts, he makes a comment. and he's made a few threads about me before. it's kinda cute, but weird.
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I just want to remind people where your interests really lie. I really don't know why your on this board....you don't give a damn about our team at all.

Mel Kiper On Growing Peterson Buzz
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if you guys trade down and someone moves ahead of miami by one spot and drafts quinn, i'm going to personally punch every texans fan in the face.

Your words, correct?

edit* and if its any consolation, you don't annoy me NEARLY as much as hulk75.
 
swtbound07 said:
I just want to remind people where your interests really lie. I really don't know why your on this board....you don't give a damn about our team at all.

Mel Kiper On Growing Peterson Buzz
Views: 742 Posted By kastofsna
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if you guys trade down and someone moves ahead of miami by one spot and drafts quinn, i'm going to personally punch every texans fan in the face.

Your words, correct?
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oh snap! you've caught me! i'm not a texans fans. damn! i've been trying to hide my true identity for a long time now and....oh wait, no i haven't. i'm a big dolphins homer. very astute observation.
 
I'm not a UT guy, obviously, or a homer, but winning is winning, no matter what playbook you run. As I said, he seems to improve wherever he goes...like people saying he couldn't throw but leading the NCAA in completion percentage...so I'll asume he will work on his game. As I said yesterday, Terry Bradshaw wasn't the sharperst tool in the shed and as Hollywood Henderson put it, “He couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the C and the T”

I'll end with another brilliant quote by Joe Thiesmann

"“Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman
Einstein.”

Enough said.
 
winning is fairly easy with a team full of all-americans. and playing teams that are far less talented than your own. but i could be wrong.
 
kastofsna said:
winning is fairly easy with a team full of all-americans. and playing teams that are far less talented than your own. but i could be wrong.
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What about with an 0-3 team that is going no where and you take them to the edge of the playoffs?Just sayin..
 
I would love for the texans to move up to the 3rd pick in the draft and select calvin johnson. The guy is a freak, and we could get tampa bay back for taking the two qb's we were looking at. What do yall think?
 
Haven't the Texans said they are looking to acquire more picks not get rid of them? Almost no chance of it happening, IMO.
 
SF49erFaithful said:
Sorry, I guess that I forgot speed is the most essential component when evaluating WR prospects. :sarcasm:
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when you have two guys who are pretty much identical in their game, you'll take the guy with the better speed over the other one. especially if that guy is several inches taller, too. well, if you're smart that is.
 
kastofsna said:
when you have two guys who are pretty much identical in their game, you'll take the guy with the better speed over the other one. especially if that guy is several inches taller, too. well, if you're smart that is.
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Well I guess if there is Clone A and Clone B, and they're exactly the same, with no differences other than B is slightly faster, then sure. Take B. But the fact is no two WR's are exactly the same, so even if they may have some similarities I don't think you can come to the conclusion that Calvin Johnson is a superior prospect because he might be faster.
 
no, i can come to that conclusion because johnson is a better athlete in every way. the only area that fitzgerald has an advantage over johnson is the jump ball.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Were you at Titans camp?How di dhe not dogest the playbook?He did pretty well for a rookie. BTW. Marino had a 14 on his Wonderlic, Randall Cunningham a 15, Neil O'Donnell a 13, Kordell Stewart a 12. McNabb took it twice and got a 12 and a 16, Culpepper took it three times and got a 15 the one time, David Garrard a 14, Losman took it twice and got a 14, studied and got a 31, Jason Campbell took it three times and got a 14 on one, and Steve McNair got a 15. They mean nothing. So it just sounds ignorant to say he can't learn a playbook because of the test when you know nothing about what he knows, etc. He seems to be doing just fine. Again, football players aren't asked to solve global warming.
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Ryan Leaf scored a 27. Ryan. Leaf.


Game, Set, Match.
 
kastofsna said:
no, i can come to that conclusion because johnson is a better athlete in every way. the only area that fitzgerald has an advantage over johnson is the jump ball.
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So are you saying Calvin Johnson is a better prospect than Fitzgerald was just because Johnson might be more athletic?
 
first of all, the better athlete always trumps when it comes to prospects. they are, afterall, prospects, not finished products. but i happen to feel that johnson is also just a better player overall, as WELL as a better athlete. so...he's just better all around.
 
kastofsna said:
first of all, the better athlete always trumps when it comes to prospects. they are, afterall, prospects, not finished products. but i happen to feel that johnson is also just a better player overall, as WELL as a better athlete. so...he's just better all around.
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Well only numbers mind you, but I think they put an explination point on the arguement.
http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm

3-15-07

(12:01 AM): Take that you QB guys!! He still probably won’t be taken first overall, but Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson made yet another statement that he is the best athlete in the 2007 draft with another impressive display at Yellow Jackets’ pro day yesterday. Working out in front of about 75 league scouts and coaches Johnson, for example, posted an almost unheard of broad jump of 11-7 and had a 42.5 vertical leap. That’s on top of his now almost legendary performance at last month’s scouting combine when the 6-5, 239-pounder ran an impromptu 4.35 40 in borrowed shoes. And it would be fascinating to see Oakland head coach Lane Kiffen’s report on what he saw this week. Kiffen, who’s Raiders have the first overall pick at this year’s draft, was in Atlanta at yesterday’s Georgia Tech workout after taking in LSU QB Jamarcus Russell’s workout in Baton Rouge the day before.
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If only Big Al and Montey could land them both.
 
threetoedpete said:


Well only numbers mind you, but I think they put an explination point on the arguement.
http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm

3-15-07



If only Big Al and Montey could land them both.
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as i overheard a scout saying a few weeks ago....he's never seen a prospect that not only dominated every aspect of the game on the field, but was also a complete freak of nature athletically, AND whose game translated so well to the next level in any offense, for any team. clearly the best prospect in a LONG time. how can oakland pass on him? being a bit of a "planet theory" guy, i'm pretty much now resigned to the fact that no, they will NOT pass on him.
 
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