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With the 8th pick Houston selects:

At the moment my priority list remains:
1) Adrian Peterson
2) Leon Hall
3) LaRon Landry

This list is subject to change over the coming months and will likely change several times.
 
Somebody other than who the sports media thinks the Texans should take, so the whining and gnashing of teeth will continue.
 
If we have the 8th pick in the first round, I believe that Minn would then leap frog us to the back of the 3-team, 6-win team pack and we would therefore edge foreward to get the 39th pick, but then we would leap to the back of the line and get the 73rd. Please advise.
 
Is that Jamarcus Russell? Are you guys serious? No way I want that guy. He won't even be a first round pick.

If we can't get AP which we won't b/c Cleveland will take him, then we need a safety or corner.
 
cadahnic said:
At the moment my priority list remains:
1) Adrian Peterson
2) Leon Hall
3) LaRon Landry

This list is subject to change over the coming months and will likely change several times.
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No way Peterson is still on the board with the 8th pick. I would love to see it happen, but it won't.

According to the chronicle, the following are the Texans picks:

1st round - 8th pick
2nd round - 7th pick
3rd round - 9th pick
4th round - 8th pick
5th round - 7th pick
6th round - 9th pick
7th round - 8th pick

Basically, the order rotates among the three 6-10 teams (Minnesota, Miami, and Houston).
 
Marshawn Lynch

I know Taylor had a good game, but come on it was an injured Browns team with nothing to play for.
 
uh.... am i the only one who wants Alan Branch? we have a terrible pass rush even though we blitz a lot, and Mario Williams always get double-blocked. Alan Branch will help stopping the run, too.
 
jjcorvallis said:
uh.... am i the only one who wants Alan Branch? we have a terrible pass rush even though we blitz a lot, and Mario Williams always get double-blocked. Alan Branch will help stopping the run, too.
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I like this pick! We need more PUSH in the middle instead of just holding the line! Payne might be done & T.J. might not be the answer! Please KEEP Maddox & Dalton for depth! GO TEXANS! :) :snobord:
 
jjcorvallis said:
uh.... am i the only one who wants Alan Branch? we have a terrible pass rush even though we blitz a lot, and Mario Williams always get double-blocked. Alan Branch will help stopping the run, too.
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How do you think Branch will help Mario? He doesn't get pennatration. He had 1 freaking sack for all his size and potential. He is a clog who doesn't excell at run stopping either. You want a DT, ok. Look at Okoye, Mebane, Bryant, Harrell, Dorsey...look past wasting our #1 pick on a guy who won't actually help Mario.
 
How many DT's have significant impact in their first year and a half? I don't like Branch with this pick.

Signed,
Travis Johnson
 
mexican_texan said:
How many DT's have significant impact in their first year and a half? I don't like Branch with this pick.

Signed,
Travis Johnson
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Very few DT's have the physicallity to succede, then there is the whole technique and getting past the offensive holding thing. DT is a hard position to make an impact in initially. That is why I support a later round DT who can pennatrate rather than Branch who is big but is more of a clog than a player. He gets decent push, but nothing special. Let's just say he isn't that high on the big board I just posted.
 
Texian said:
#8. LaRon Landry, FS
#39. Ryan Harris, OT or Tony Ugoh, OT
#73. Fred Bennett, CB
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I like this better.

#8 Reggie Nelson, FS (More of a ballhawk than Landry, just as big of a hitter)
#39 Michael Bush, RB (Big time power back w/ speed to boot)
#73 Fred Bennet, CB
 
cptnbreakdance said:
I like this better.

#8 Reggie Nelson, FS (More of a ballhawk than Landry, just as big of a hitter)
#39 Michael Bush, RB (Big time power back w/ speed to boot)
#73 Fred Bennet, CB
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I think that Bush can stay one more can stay one more year and if I am right then I think he will. By staying all he can do is boost his draft stock since he broke his leg this year.
 
jjcorvallis said:
uh.... am i the only one who wants Alan Branch? we have a terrible pass rush even though we blitz a lot, and Mario Williams always get double-blocked. Alan Branch will help stopping the run, too.
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Nope ,I'm with ya. He is the most solid, safest pick of those that have been posted so far. TJ is a season a way from busting. Payne is out and on the wrong side of 30. He needs fewer snaps not more. And the absolutly the worst thing we can do is move a functioning blue chip DE, Weaver, inside and make him ordinary. We got enough ordinary on this club. Enough ordinary to float an aircraft carrier. :tearup:
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Fred Bennett won't be there in the 3rd. He is going to fly up the boards just like Johnathen Joseph last year. Measurables guy.
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I dunno YTF, Bennett didn't play very well down the stretch that I saw. I like the guy too, but as beerlover points out, the numbers aren't the only thing. Think the kid form Geogia, Tra Battle, and the kid from Wake forest are now my third/fourth round FS prospects.
 
I don't know if I can justify passing on JaMarcus Russell...but would it really be wise to have so much money tied up at the QB position.
 
cptnbreakdance said:
I like this better.

#8 Reggie Nelson, FS (More of a ballhawk than Landry, just as big of a hitter)
#39 Michael Bush, RB (Big time power back w/ speed to boot)
#73 Fred Bennet, CB
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Right now the thing with Bush is he has justed started back training. He is somewhat out of shape and doing some light running and lifting. The question is will he be ready for the combine and what will he be able to do at the combine and his school day?
 
Texian said:
Right now the thing with Bush is he has justed started back training. He is somewhat out of shape and doing some light running and lifting. The question is will he be ready for the combine and what will he be able to do at the combine and his school day?
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Where is the link where Bush's Red shirt Request has been truned down ? Or the link he has applied to the NFL advisory commitee for their recomendation of where he would go in the draft ? Or did I miss something ? At this point from my search two nights ago...nobody knows nothing.
 
Alan Branch would be a terrible pick. There is no way this franchise will select another DT with our first pick. If, for some reason we do, there will be many many lost fans next year. How many defensive lineman drafted in the first round are actually worth it.? Travis Johnson? Are you serious? If either Russell or Brohm are there, we need to take one of them.. If not, we need to look at the other Reggie or Laron.
 
Newbsies said:
Alan Branch would be a terrible pick. There is no way this franchise will select another DT with our first pick.
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Branch beside Williams would be awesome....I wouldn't mind the pick myself. We still don't stop the run as well as we could and Branch is in the Hainsworth, Henderson, Stroud mold. Personally I hope we keep building the defensive core like the Bears did on their way to becoming a dominant defensive team. The Bears aren't the same team without their big tackles tearing it up inside.
 
From a purely football standpoint, Alan Branch could be a pretty good pick. The dude has talent. However, what I am saying, is that with the current state of our franchise, Branch would not be a very desirable pick.
 
Vinny said:
Branch beside Williams would be awesome....I wouldn't mind the pick myself. We still don't stop the run as well as we could and Branch is in the Hainsworth, Henderson, Stroud mold. Personally I hope we keep building the defensive core like the Bears did on their way to becoming a dominant defensive team. The Bears aren't the same team without their big tackles tearing it up inside.
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I wouldn't mind having a dominating defense. But we're going to have to improve our offense. If we keep drafting defensive players in the first round, we are going to end up like the Raiders, A good defense but a horrible offense. Obviously, carr has to go. We need to address that need, either by free agency or the draft, but we are going to have to draft a top offensvie player in the first round, cause if we don't, then it will be four years in a row that we will draft a defensive player in the first and we keep ignoring the offense.
 
raytex said:
I wouldn't mind having a dominating defense. But we're going to have to improve our offense. If we keep drafting defensive players in the first round, we are going to end up like the Raiders, A good defense but a horrible offense. Obviously, carr has to go. We need to address that need, either by free agency or the draft, but we are going to have to draft a top offensvie player in the first round, cause if we don't, then it will be four years in a row that we will draft a defensive player in the first and we keep ignoring the offense.
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Offense is about creating and defense is about destroying, so it takes more time to build an offense since destroying is easier than creating...it's easier to incorporate young defenders to a team than it is to incorporate rookies on offense. I'd like to see us add some more veteran talent on offense and more young talent on defense personally.
 
raytex said:
I wouldn't mind having a dominating defense. But we're going to have to improve our offense. If we keep drafting defensive players in the first round, we are going to end up like the Raiders, A good defense but a horrible offense. Obviously, carr has to go. We need to address that need, either by free agency or the draft, but we are going to have to draft a top offensvie player in the first round, cause if we don't, then it will be four years in a row that we will draft a defensive player in the first and we keep ignoring the offense.
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We have a potentially explosive young offense. AJ should be our centerpiece. With our ZBS we can effectivly use Taylor/Dayne/Gado/Lundy or another other competent RB in our scheme. Moulds/Mathis/Walters provide very good depth with Moulds as the fater figure. We have a good young FB who can block and catch. We have a young TE who can do both as well. The questions on offense arise about our future QB situation and our constantly porus offensive line.

Our defense is about an OLB, CB, and FS away from being a unit that can carry our team.
 
Vinny said:
Offense is about creating and defense is about destroying, so it takes more time to build an offense since destroying is easier than creating...it's easier to incorporate young defenders to a team than it is to incorporate rookies on offense. I'd like to see us add some more veteran talent on offense and more young talent on defense personally.
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I'll agree with you on the incorporating part with a quarterback, but we could incorporate an A.D. or Marshawn Linch pretty well. They will just pound the ball. Rookie running backs usually do pretty well from the start.

All i am saying is that the Texans need talent on offense, Besides AJ, they have no talent. All they have is a bust of a #1 overall pick,(carr) an old #2 reciever and second string running backs. There never gonna move the ball consistently with those guys.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
We have a potentially explosive young offense. AJ should be our centerpiece. With our ZBS we can effectivly use Taylor/Dayne/Gado/Lundy or another other competent RB in our scheme. Moulds/Mathis/Walters provide very good depth with Moulds as the fater figure. We have a good young FB who can block and catch. We have a young TE who can do both as well. The questions on offense arise about our future QB situation and our constantly porus offensive line.

Our defense is about an OLB, CB, and FS away from being a unit that can carry our team.
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Really, you think we have talent on offense, Moulds didn't get it done this year, part was carrs fault. And he isn't getting younger. In the Backfield, Dayne was the only one that I saw that was consistent, and that was at the end of the year. Taylor played against the Browns, Everyone runs against the Browns. And Gado did not look good at all this year. Lundy looked very avearge, never saw anything special out of that guy.
 
jjcorvallis said:
uh.... am i the only one who wants Alan Branch? we have a terrible pass rush even though we blitz a lot, and Mario Williams always get double-blocked. Alan Branch will help stopping the run, too.
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i have felt that way for the last couple of weeks. dude would assume two blockers and would (i think) clear more room for mario to operate. i'd hate to make that decision if hall and branch are there at #8 though.
 
raytex said:
Really, you think we have talent on offense, Moulds didn't get it done this year, part was carrs fault. And he isn't getting younger. In the Backfield, Dayne was the only one that I saw that was consistent, and that was at the end of the year. Taylor played against the Browns, Everyone runs against the Browns. And Gado did not look good at all this year. Lundy looked very avearge, never saw anything special out of that guy.
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Moulds did get it done. At the least did you not see AJ's production jump this year? It comes from having a legit #2 WR. Carr isn't a complete bust yet, I think he will bennifit from a change in scenery. Moulds cost us a 5th rounder. He more than got it done and is still a mentor to AJ and a legit #2 WR who doesn't drop and can still move around with excellent size. Everyone was complaining about Dayne earlier in the year, but now he is a godsend. He is good enough to split carries with Taylor next year. Taylor looked like DD in his first game against the Dolphins. When DD trucked Zack Taylor and kept going, I knew he was going to be good. I saw a lot of that same back out of Taylor and Taylor has better speed. Gado is garbage and I believe Lundy is as well. Neither have any vision. Gado has a decent skill set but lacks vision and patience. Lundy just needs time to develop IMO. I think with Sage at QB next year, and a WR combo of AJ/Moulds/Mathis and a RB combo of Taylor/Dayne and a TE combo of Daniels/Putzier and a health OT combo of Spencer/Winston/draft pick...we have a potentially explosive offense. I believe the only things holding this offense in check is our piss poor offensive line and David Carr's mental aspects behind that line.
 
raytex said:
I'll agree with you on the incorporating part with a quarterback, but we could incorporate an A.D. or Marshawn Linch pretty well. They will just pound the ball. Rookie running backs usually do pretty well from the start.

All i am saying is that the Texans need talent on offense, Besides AJ, they have no talent. All they have is a bust of a #1 overall pick,(carr) an old #2 reciever and second string running backs. There never gonna move the ball consistently with those guys.
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If the right offensive piece falls to us I'm in...but unless someone really grades out to be a difference maker I'd like us to have a dominant unit on at least one side of the ball and hope we seek vets for the O and keep infusing young talent on the D. The defense has a young core that is about 3 players away from being pretty fearsome. As long as our top pick plays up to his salary slot I’ll be happy regardless so I wouldn’t argue an offensive player too much at 1.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Moulds did get it done. At the least did you not see AJ's production jump this year? It comes from having a legit #2 WR. Carr isn't a complete bust yet, I think he will bennifit from a change in scenery. Moulds cost us a 5th rounder. He more than got it done and is still a mentor to AJ and a legit #2 WR who doesn't drop and can still move around with excellent size. Everyone was complaining about Dayne earlier in the year, but now he is a godsend. He is good enough to split carries with Taylor next year. Taylor looked like DD in his first game against the Dolphins. When DD trucked Zack Taylor and kept going, I knew he was going to be good. I saw a lot of that same back out of Taylor and Taylor has better speed. Gado is garbage and I believe Lundy is as well. Neither have any vision. Gado has a decent skill set but lacks vision and patience. Lundy just needs time to develop IMO. I think with Sage at QB next year, and a WR combo of AJ/Moulds/Mathis and a RB combo of Taylor/Dayne and a TE combo of Daniels/Putzier and a health OT combo of Spencer/Winston/draft pick...we have a potentially explosive offense. I believe the only things holding this offense in check is our piss poor offensive line and David Carr's mental aspects behind that line.
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Really, 557 yards and one touchdown is good enough for you, You are easily satisfied. I expected, more like 800 yards and 5 touchdowns. Mike furrey for the Freaking lions had 1000 yards and six touchdowns and he is a #2 with Kitna as a quarterback Have you ever wondered why the Bills got rid of moulds for a fifth rounder? Think about it, a fifth rounder.

And as for Carr, he is a busts and will never do anything with this team, it's time to move on. He is Joey Harrington Part 2.
 
raytex said:
Really, 557 yards and one touchdown is good enough for you, You are easily satisfied. I expected, more like 800 yards and 5 touchdowns. Mike furrey for the Freaking lions had 1000 yards and six touchdowns and he is a #2 with Kitna as a quarterback Have you ever wondered why the Bills got rid of moulds for a fifth rounder? Think about it, a fifth rounder.

And as for Carr, he is a busts and will never do anything with this team, it's time to move on. He is Joey Harrington Part 2.
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Our TEAM had like 1 passing TD in the last 9 weeks. With our poor offensive line and shell shocked QB who is done in Houston at the helm, I'm not surprised about that production but I'll take it and AJ's increased production. I believe the Bills were either going to cut him or trade him off for cheap because of cap implications. Edge didn't even get a 1st rounder so I don't know what all you were expecting to give for a #2 WR as opposed to a legit star RB...and even then see where a crappy Oline gets you.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Our TEAM had like 1 passing TD in the last 9 weeks. With our poor offensive line and shell shocked QB who is done in Houston at the helm, I'm not surprised about that production but I'll take it and AJ's increased production. I believe the Bills were either going to cut him or trade him off for cheap because of cap implications. Edge didn't even get a 1st rounder so I don't know what all you were expecting to give for a #2 WR as opposed to a legit star RB...and even then see where a crappy Oline gets you.
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Edge was a Free agency signing, no trades involved.
 
Bubbajwp said:
It was the year before that the colts tried trading him and couldnt get a first rounder for him.
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They couldn't get a first rounder for him cause he was going to ask for to much money when his contract was up. They could have gotten a first rounder if he didn't require as much money. Look at the Patriots, they got a first rounder for Dieon Branch.
 
raytex said:
They couldn't get a first rounder for him cause he was going to ask for to much money when his contract was up. They could have gotten a first rounder if he didn't require as much money. Look at the Patriots, they got a first rounder for Dieon Branch.
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Real dumb move by Seattle. Huge contracts for Branch and Nate Burleson.
 
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