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Vince Young does not rule ass
- Thread starter AlbinoRat
- Start date
You could say that at the same point in their game the Texans took a pity score from the Jet's defense, but you probably shouldn't.
The title of your thread is haunting you now! What a huge win over the Giants! Way to go Vince. This was your breakout game!
HowBoutThemCowboys!
Rookie
This thread looks smart now..
From the great words of Borat:
NOT.
From the great words of Borat:
NOT.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
So right. Maybe one day people will realize that a 100% completion percentage, etc does not translate into a winner. Some people like Romo and VY have IT.
We will all see vy be the man, right in front of our eyes, he came back in the fourth quarter from a 21 pt deficit man..........that has nothing to with his skill at this point, he is still learning, that is all heart man.....you can't teach that at all.....
i'm done with this thread, it pisses me off way to much....
i'm done with this thread, it pisses me off way to much....
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
Actually, that was my point. You must be a Longhorn to have missed that boat. Oh, I guess you are. Score one for me.
Huge
All Pro
Titan "Tack" Fan
Veteran
I'm going to be honest with you guys:
I LOVE the Vince haters. It cracks me up. After today I will just sit back and laugh at them. When Vince is winning Super Bowls and is a perennial Pro Bowler, the haters will just make it that much sweeter.
I LOVE the Vince haters. It cracks me up. After today I will just sit back and laugh at them. When Vince is winning Super Bowls and is a perennial Pro Bowler, the haters will just make it that much sweeter.
SF49erFaithful
Crabtree FTW
Titan "Tack" Fan;511807 said:
I admit I had my questions about Vince. He hasn't proved to be a great QB yet but I think he can be a very good.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
God it makes me mad the Texans didn't take Vince. That decision will haunt this team for an eternity. Anybody who can't see that Vince is simply a winner is an *****. Anybody who can't see that Carr is NOT a winner is an *****.
Mysteryhunt
Waterboy
he has yet to win more than he loses. until that point he is simply a loser...like carr.
The thing I think about a lot is that five years ago Vince was in high school.
Huge
All Pro
But he's also yet to lose more than he wins.
TheOgre
All Pro
I don't understand the point in throwing 1-2 yards short of the first down just hoping your guy will break a tackle to get the 1st. I don't know how many 4th and 2 or less we have had this year, but it just seems ridiculous.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Welcome to the West Coast offense.
There has not been a WCO in the history of the league that only took three shots down the field.
Never.
Bret Favre runs a WCO.... no one's ever acussed him of dinking & dunking.
Jake Plummer has ran a WCO... no one ever accused him of dinking & dunking.
Montana...... never been accused of dinking & dunking.
Look, let's make this easy. Why don't you give us an example of a WCO where the complaint was that they didn't stretch the field.
The short passes act as a running game. Just like you wouldn't run the ball all game, and pass three times, you don't dink & dunk, and go downfield three times in a WCO.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I cant give you an example cuz West Coast teams have to have a running game if they want to stretch the field. We dont have one, therefore our short passing game is our running game.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
How incredibly blind you must be.
They are Carr's and are threatened by Vince's superb caliber playing ability. I apologize to all VY fans in the begining. I should of waited before I trashed Vince during the draft. He is going rise above Carr before the season is up.
No, he's not. A couple of decent games doesn't make a career. So far he's proven to be adequate.
R
real
Guest
Not really. He's just not a member of the "I'm Infatuated With Vince Young Club".
Keldar
Waterboy
VY got lucky against a heartless defense. Better than Carr? Who cares?
I'm beginning to think Carr isn't going to come around, ever. I also think VY will come to be known as a player who will blow you away one week, and leave you shaking your head in disappointment the next.
Generically speaking, I kinda don't want either type on my team.
Just my .02
I'm beginning to think Carr isn't going to come around, ever. I also think VY will come to be known as a player who will blow you away one week, and leave you shaking your head in disappointment the next.
Generically speaking, I kinda don't want either type on my team.
Just my .02
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
I would wholeheartedly sign onto your list, with the only additions of
miss knowles,(beyonce) and miss narain (nicole)
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
No the kid doesn't suck but like others have said i am still not sold on his ability to be able to pass consistently. The kid is big & hard to bring down, that to me is his biggest asset. When Kiwanuka (& others) grabbed him, any other Qb is on the mat, but he's a big strong guy that can withstand being tackled for just a split second longer to maybe get a pass off. Sometimes it doesn't work to his advantage ( throwing balls without much power on them) but many times it does.
I'm critical of him & in the long run i think i'll be proven right about what i think his career will be like but you can't hate on the guy after that giants game. He held steady.
I'm critical of him & in the long run i think i'll be proven right about what i think his career will be like but you can't hate on the guy after that giants game. He held steady.
CaptainPatriot
Waterboy
Let the Vince Young Haunting of the Texans begin as of last weeks giants game!!!!! carr is dumping off 1 yard passses while VY is driving his team for TD's in the 4th Q!
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Yep people said the same kind of crap when RB got over 100 TOTAL yds in his 1st game with the saints. The guy did good last week no hate here. Next keep that consistency for 16 + straight games.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
Well, that's cute and all, but here's the thing:
There's a certain magic some players bring with their game, and if you watch them long enough it becomes self-evident.
Joe Montana was one of these players. John Elway was one of these players. And Vince Young is one of these players. Does the fact that I can see this mean I have some sort of man-crush on Vince Young? No, it means I have watched him play, a lot, and I CAN SEE.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
One week and 140+ posts have passed and I still see no data or solid opinion on how Vince Young sucks. He obviously does not suck as a football player, but there are some who just do not like him, there are some who think he has a long way to go, there are some who think he has tons of upside and some who think he is the second coming.
His team won the National Championship last year, he was drafted 3rd in the draft, he came into play for a poor team and his presence has paralleled the teams recent success in the win column. He did all of this while everyone and their mother said he could not play QB at either level. However, to say he sucks is childish, at best.
His team won the National Championship last year, he was drafted 3rd in the draft, he came into play for a poor team and his presence has paralleled the teams recent success in the win column. He did all of this while everyone and their mother said he could not play QB at either level. However, to say he sucks is childish, at best.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
I don't disagree, but I'm sure that there are people who feel that way about Carr or any other QB that had success in college. Now you're talking about the NFL, but like most you probably felt this way before he was even in the NFL. I would have taken Young last draft, but I am pleased with what Mario is doing and more than pleased with what he will probably do when he is 100% healthy. I also have faith in Carr, if we ever block for him well enough. That's the biggest problem, although there are others. You may say that Young would do better even with this team exactly as it is, and I won't necessarilly deny that, but that doesn't make Carr chopped meat. We could have Vince Young and we could have a D that was absolutely TERRIBLE right now. It's a trade-off. It's not like Carr has never thrown a perfect bomb for a lot of yardage in his life. He's done it many times, but most of them were before he had 3 seconds or less to throw the ball, and receivers with 3 seconds or less to get open. Who runs a 50 yd. dash in 3 seconds?--let alone pulls off any moves along the way.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I think Vince poses a threat to a certain somebody ... therefore a need of addition by subtraction becomes a must .
WiiBrawler
WiiMan
Hangin with Ricky Williams Lately?
run-david-run
All Pro
Funny how all that "magic" John Elway had never translated to a SuperBowl until he got a great running back, great offensive line, great receivers and a great D...its a team sport!
How many SuperBowls did Montana win without the greatest receiver, possibly player, in NFL histroy?
S
SESupergenius
Guest
Kill this thread.
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
If you're talking about Jerry Rice, then the answer is two.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
How many Super Bowls does anyone win or even get to play in? I wasn't really even talking about Super Bowls here, I was talking about winning games. How many games has David Carr won in 5 years? How many of those wins were because of the magic he brought to the field?
Charter PSL Fan
Noob
A total collapse by the NY Giants helped his cause. It's not everyday that a defensive lineman has a qb in his grasp and just lets him go because "I thought he threw the ball".
R
real
Guest
The funny thing about that argument is that if it were Carr that made that comeback the same way VY did, I believe that peoples tone would change....
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
He may not be another Montana or Elway, but it's time that people started wising up to the fact that the possibility exists.
It's not a coincidence that Texas won a Championship last year despite having one of the worst Offensive Coordinators in college ball. Look at 'em now. They look like the same old Longhorns that can't win the Big 12.
I also don't think it's a coincidence that the Titans have already gotten more wins then they did last year.
It's not a coincidence that Texas won a Championship last year despite having one of the worst Offensive Coordinators in college ball. Look at 'em now. They look like the same old Longhorns that can't win the Big 12.
I also don't think it's a coincidence that the Titans have already gotten more wins then they did last year.