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Carr is done in Houston

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This is not a Carr hate thread, I supported Carr for 5 years, I hope he moves on somewhere else, but its time to move on in Houston.

This is a talented team.......let me say that again........this team has talent, we held the Jets to feild goal and were wore down late.......same story different week. Its time for a change, Sage can play and the results will be the same.
 
This is not a Carr hate thread, I supported Carr for 5 years, I hope he moves on somewhere else, but its time to move on in Houston.

This is a talented team.......let me say that again........this team has talent, he held the Jets to feild goal and were wore down late.......same story different week. Its time for a change, Sage can play and the results will be the same.

This is not a talented team. Not close. We're a very long way from winning, whether it's with Carr or another QB. It doesn't really matter.
 
i think carr gets more credit than he deserves bc of his high completion %. that is the most overrated stat on carr's line. how many TD passes does he have? not enough for the amount of completions he has. carr has old habits that havent been broken yet. he locks in on AJ, and if he isnt initially open, then he dumps to the RB. when sage was put in the game vs tennessee....he had no problem finding his WR's and the threw downfield and had 3 td passes in one half. our 2-minute offense is slow and inefficient. i dont really think lundy is the answer, but the run game would be better if we could spread the ball more and stretch the defense down the field. alll the dinks and screens just keep the offense compacted and therefore, its harder to run.
 
This is not a talented team. Not close. We're a very long way from winning, whether it's with Carr or another QB. It doesn't really matter.

Dude this is a talented team, we are no different from the 2004 Chargers just need better QB play and a RB.

This team has talent
 
Dude this is a talented team, we are no different from the 2004 Chargers just need better QB play and a RB.

This team has talent
A big difference there is that Brees had to save his job from a rookie. Kubiak has told the media that Carr is the QB. Carr doesn't have to worry about being benched, or at least not losing his job.
 
Carr will not improve any more with the last 5 games to play.....Put in sage and see what he can do.

Please.:lightbulb:

If he does well than carr know he better learn how to be a better qb before preseason starts.
 
Don't know what's going on anymore. He's great at the underneath stuff, but we are getting absolutely nothing down the field. Maybe it's all playcalling, maybe it's him being gunshy and not wanting to turn the ball over. I have no clue anymore, the guy puts up a ridiculous QB rating and we can't score. I like the fire Sage showed on that tackle. Until this year I was pretty sold on Carr being no good, he's shown some flashes to and the ability to stay upright, but neither the W-L nor the offensive production has improved.
 
Carr needs to go. We need to get rid of that freaking bum.

Carr, you need to take your pretty boy image, your gravy training father, and your 'aww shucks' smile and get the hell out of our city. You are a bum, a stat farmer, and a COMPLETE LOSER.

I have held my tongue long enough. The guy needs to go and now.

Sage better be starting next game or I wouldn't be surprised if the team (as well as most realistic fans) mutiny against this TOTAL EMBARASSMENT that is the Texans.

Carr, you suck.

Doug From The Woodlands
 
Carr needs to go. We need to get rid of that freaking bum.

Carr, you need to take your pretty boy image, your gravy training father, and your 'aww shucks' smile and get the hell out of our city. You are a bum, a stat farmer, and a COMPLETE LOSER.

I have held my tongue long enough. The guy needs to go and now.

Sage better be starting next game or I wouldn't be surprised if the team (as well as most realistic fans) mutiny against this TOTAL EMBARASSMENT that is the Texans.

Carr, you suck.

Doug From The Woodlands

This is what I don't like, Carr is not the answer at QB, but he is a good person and has stuck it out through 5 horrible years.......I honestly wish him the best.....honestly, he has good values and a good family. Seperate football from real life.

Do the Texans need to move on...yes
Do we need to trash Carr as a person..No

He failed....everybody has failed at one time.
 
This is not a Carr hate thread, I supported Carr for 5 years, I hope he moves on somewhere else, but its time to move on in Houston.

This is a talented team.......let me say that again........this team has talent, we held the Jets to feild goal and were wore down late.......same story different week. Its time for a change, Sage can play and the results will be the same.


What talent do you see out there? We have one playmaker on offense and a couple of rising star players on defense. Other than that, we simply stink. Not saying whether Carr needs to stay or go, but until we have a solid offensive line, more offensive playmakers, and a secondary that can cover someone, it won't matter who is taking snaps...
 
nice Carr bomb.. I agree with that, I think people forget that friends and family (from all ages) come on this board.. and the personal attacks IMO are unwarrented

have to take a rain check on the rep until it gets spread around again.
 
What talent do you see out there? We have one playmaker on offense and a couple of rising star players on defense. Other than that, we simply stink. Not saying whether Carr needs to stay or go, but until we have a solid offensive line, more offensive playmakers, and a secondary that can cover someone, it won't matter who is taking snaps...

I'll say this, besides the injuries on the OL, this is easily the best talent we have accumulated on offense at the skill positions.

AJ,Moulds,Walter,Putzier,Daniels,Gado,Lundy,Cook and Carr.
 
This is a talented team at the SKILL POSITIONS. This is one of the worst teams I've ever seen up front. There's not a quarterback in this league that could take this team to the playoffs - or even a winning record - until there's better protection and a running game, and that starts with the 5 guys up front.
 
Maybe Texans are shooting for the top of the Ping Pong ball. Not a bad strategy all we need to do is loose our next 5 games and I am sure we will in contention for the top pick again.

It is just so frustrating being a Texans fans these days with the bone headed play. In the first half defense played very well but our offense simply let us down again. I am sure this must of had a bad effect on the defense in the second half. In ability to move the chains.

For all the stats lovers: Carr was able to pad up his stats in the last 5 minutes of the game so now his stats will look good to public view and his completion % must have increased as well. This is the way you win ball games.
 
I don't see it. All I see is total devotion to our first #1 overall pick by the front office, the owner, and the coaching staff.
 
This is what I don't like, Carr is not the answer at QB, but he is a good person and has stuck it out through 5 horrible years.......I honestly wish him the best.....honestly, he has good values and a good family. Seperate football from real life.

Do the Texans need to move on...yes
Do we need to trash Carr as a person..No

He failed....everybody has failed at one time

To hell with that, Carr = a failure at the NFL and Life....lol
 
I'll say this, besides the injuries on the OL, this is easily the best talent we have accumulated on offense at the skill positions.

AJ,Moulds,Walter,Putzier,Daniels,Gado,Lundy,Cook and Carr.

Moulds and Walter are "average" WR's, Putzier is not playing and Gado, Lundy and Cook are "average" as well. The only true talent we have on offense is Andre and Daniels...

I will agree that the OL is actually looking better.
 
Moulds and Walter are "average" WR's, Putzier is not playing and Gado, Lundy and Cook are "average" as well. The only true talent we have on offense is Andre and Daniels...

I will agree that the OL is actually looking better.

How do good players at other organizations become terrible all of a sudden?

What about all the "terrible" players that leave our organization and do well in other organizations?
 
You're so right, it was Carr who can't run the ball, for a whole 15 yards on 11 carries. It was also Carr who dropped 4 passes to himself and who can't hit Chad Pennington or contain his receivers.

These wah-wah threads get lamer every week. I come to them out of morbid curiousity, wondering if and when there will ever be any substance or serious discussion of Carr's legitimate flaws. Keep on truckin' -- maybe we can still draft Vince Young.
 
Moulds and Walter are "average" WR's, Putzier is not playing and Gado, Lundy and Cook are "average" as well. The only true talent we have on offense is Andre and Daniels...

I will agree that the OL is actually looking better.

you maybe right, but that is the best we have seen here
 
You're so right, it was Carr who can't run the ball, for a whole 15 yards on 11 carries. It was also Carr who dropped 4 passes to himself and who can't hit Chad Pennington or contain his receivers.

These wah-wah threads get lamer every week. I come to them out of morbid curiousity, wondering if and when there will ever be any substance or serious discussion of Carr's legitimate flaws. Keep on truckin' -- maybe we can still draft Vince Young.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Carr is totally at fault, but let's be honest your QB has A LOT to do with how your offense performs week in and week out.
 
Lets all have a picnic Sunday next week ... we won't watch any football . I think it would help all our health issues .

This is the saddest day I've had as a Texan fan . I think it stinks being a fan and thinking ya know what something major is wrong ... and on cue they/he show it . The next time Sage hits the field it'll be the last time Carr starts here , thats why they don't pull him , it will be final .
 
I agree it is time for him to go b/c he's lost the fans here in houston, that's the only reason i think he HAS to go. 2nd, this is not a talented ENOUGH team & were still MANY players away from being anything resembling a solid team.

However long it takes us to get those players 1 draft or 3 years, I think is outside of DC's tenure here or at least him starting here anymore. I will never waiver from my belief that this guy can play in this league if set up in the right situation, I just think the guy can resurect (sp?) his career elsewhere where he doesn't have to wait for this turn around to take place.
 
What talent do you see out there? We have one playmaker on offense and a couple of rising star players on defense. Other than that, we simply stink. Not saying whether Carr needs to stay or go, but until we have a solid offensive line, more offensive playmakers, and a secondary that can cover someone, it won't matter who is taking snaps...

Let me tell you the kind of talent we have.

Its amazing the improvment a threat of a deep pass can do for your Oline. every 3rd down Jets blitzed us.......why cause there was NNNNNNNOOOOOO DDDDEEEEEEEEPPPPP threat.

This has been a problem for years.

Billy Miller
DD
anybody the catches the ball (2006) different year same dump off and game every team has been watching for 5 years

now on to the Oline playmakers

Daniels is a excellent TE for god sake hes a rooke and is one of the best passing threat TEs in the league, Daniels is good and is talent'

Moulds is one of the best #2s in the league, don't let his age fool you, hes underused, look at Rod Smith and Bruce Smith, Moulds hasn't fell'n off he is plain not used.

We do need a #2 corner and safety I'm not going to BS you there, but despite what people say about the LB position I think that is one of our least needs looking at this team and we are able to get by. Our DLine is also solid, Weaver and Mario and more that solid and there are plenty of teams that get by with less.

Two things we are lacking and the two things that are keeping us out of the playoffs and a winning record

#1 good, good not the right answer..........SMART QB play, a 3 yard pass when you need 6 yards in not a SMART play.
#2 a RB, we don't have bad RBs, again we don't have bad RBs, but he don't have the "RB" either and once we do have him we will have probably the deepest depth at RB.........again talent

You improve the two areas I mentioned and we're talking playoffs......period

Wildcard........FB.......the fullback we had before was fine, I know this is the west coast offense, but sometimes west coast can get to cute, and this is one of the problems our running game (in the words of Joe Namath) SSSSSRRRUUGLLIINNGGG!!!

agian this team has talent, the just lack talent in Key areas.........if that makes sense
 
I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Carr is totally at fault, but let's be honest your QB has A LOT to do with how your offense performs week in and week out.

It was a total team failure and IMO Carr had an okay day. As usual he didn't make a lot of great plays but also didn't make many bad ones, and nothing as bad as the usual primarily baseless tripe I'm reading about in this thread. It's the last I'll say on it as these things are like arguing politics or fundamentalist religion -- a scenario in which few know what the hell they are talking about, have already picked a side, and will more or less blindly fight to the death to defend it.
 

That isn't true, he failed at QB, but football is different from life. Understand the difference. People need to criticize Carr's QB play, he deserved it, but outside of football he's a good person and has a good family and has been very succesfull

Football isn't everything

Carr, football.....failed

Carr, Family, Person......Extremely successful....
 
Let me tell you the kind of talent we have.

agian this team has talent, the just lack talent in Key areas.........if that makes sense

This team has "some" talent, but not nearly enough to be a playoff contender. I am not defending Carr, or any other player. However, to say this team is close to enough talent to be a playoff contender is wrong.

Moulds is a solid possession guy - but gives you zero deep threat. Walters has never been a stud player. Our running backs are freaking pathetic. Daniels is a solid play at TE and 'Dre, regardless of drops, is a talented WR.

As for our secondary, I don't know what to say about them...
 
A big difference there is that Brees had to save his job from a rookie. Kubiak has told the media that Carr is the QB. Carr doesn't have to worry about being benched, or at least not losing his job.

You cant compare SD to Houston. SD has LT, Hou has nobody like him. SD has a solid Oline, Hou does not. SD has a decent corp of DB, Hou was one good DB.
 
Carr needs to go. We need to get rid of that freaking bum.

Carr, you need to take your pretty boy image, your gravy training father, and your 'aww shucks' smile and get the hell out of our city. You are a bum, a stat farmer, and a COMPLETE LOSER.

Doug From The Woodlands


That is disgusting. I can understand not wanting Carr as a quarterback but to bash him cause he has looks?

His father worked 16 hour days for years, weekends and holidays too, to support his family. How many NFL players have "retired" their families?

Bush's family tried to "retire" before he even received his payday.
 
It was a total team failure and IMO Carr had an okay day. As usual he didn't make a lot of great plays but also didn't make many bad ones, and nothing as bad as the usual primarily baseless tripe I'm reading about in this thread. It's the last I'll say on it as these things are like arguing politics or fundamentalist religion -- a scenario in which few know what the hell they are talking about, have already picked a side, and will more or less blindly fight to the death to defend it.


great comparison :confused: .........it seems like a lot of fans have grown content with an "okay" performance from Carr....that's the thing he's either okay or terrible, he's never actually great or even good for that matter.....to say that we don't know what the hell we're talking about is insane, I've watched this team year after year just like everyone else has, and I can honestly say that Carr is one of our biggest problems.
 
This is what I don't like, Carr is not the answer at QB, but he is a good person and has stuck it out through 5 horrible years.......I honestly wish him the best.....honestly, he has good values and a good family. Seperate football from real life.

Do the Texans need to move on...yes
Do we need to trash Carr as a person..No

He failed....everybody has failed at one time.


Thank you.
 
Note to David Carr!

YOU SUCK!


You had men open downfield, but you seem to lock in and can't read coverages or see secondary recievers. :hunter:


Bobby 119C
 
You cant compare SD to Houston. SD has LT, Hou has nobody like him. SD has a solid Oline, Hou does not. SD has a decent corp of DB, Hou was one good DB.

You actually can compare them, outside of houston everybody thought SD had the worst Oline in the leauge, everybody thought they were horrible, (wich is why Eli didn't want any part of them) nobody knew about there DBs,

The only difference is the RB and QB position

The Texans are the 2004 Chargers outside of the QB and RB position
 
That interception was one of his worst. That could have been a completion, but it was so underthrown it looked like he was throwing to the other team. JMO.
 
This is what I don't like, Carr is not the answer at QB, but he is a good person and has stuck it out through 5 horrible years.......I honestly wish him the best.....honestly, he has good values and a good family. Seperate football from real life.

Do the Texans need to move on...yes
Do we need to trash Carr as a person..No

He failed....everybody has failed at one time.

Did I trash his values? No. I stand by my opinion that his dad is a gravy trainer and has hindered his development and growth.

If the NFL kept score on how good of a family you come from or what your moral barometer is composed, then Carr would be a pro bowl caliber QB.....but we all know that isn't the case.

You win football games by scoring more points than the other team, not how good of a Campbells Soup spokesman you would make.

I wish no ill will on Carr but I just want him out of our city and off of our beloved Texans. He has been an albatross of biblical proportions around the neck of our team since Casserley, in all his infinite wisdom, chose him as the #1 overall pick. Oh and he has failed for going on 5 years, so its just not one time. He fails (plural).

Doug From The Woodlands
 
Note to David Carr!

YOU SUCK!


You had men open downfield, but you seem to lock in and can't read coverages or see secondary recievers. :hunter:


Bobby 119C


Wow, unless you were on the field with the team you wouldn't be able to see that.
 
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