Texansballer74
The Marine
His contract has not stopped them at all. Didn’t Lamb and several others get their big money bags. Yall two have to remember this is not the 90’s or the early 2000’s.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
So Jerry hasn't gotten smarter with his money with the passage of time.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
He was a FA. Couldn't trade him. That's why Jerry had no leverage. Dak is better than anyone they could have gotten on the street or in the draft. That's the reality of today's NFL. Serviceable QB's are hard to come by.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Jerry is not the only owner paying their quarterbacks fat contracts. The Eagles and Chiefs are paying their franchise QB’s and other key players really really greatly. And guess what they’re winning superbowls.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I think we were talking about resigning CJ after this season and the conversation shifted to how other teams handled it
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
We're talking about the Cowboys.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
This is a Cowboys random thought of the day thread. Want Texans Talk? Turn on 610.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Look at the money Purdy got. Lots of debate whether he is worth that money. Somebody posted it is the market, yes it is but just the eye test, Purdy is not worth that money. Neither is Dak. Look what happened to Purdy when McCaffry went down. That team was not very good.
And Dak has had some very good teams yet CJ in two years with garbage OL has as many playoff wins as Dak. Dak 2-5 CJ 2-2. Slick nick better get ready to pay the man.
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paycheck71
Hall of Fame
Barring something I fear to even mention that stars with "in" and ends with "jury," I don't see a scenario that stops the Texans from signing CJ to a big contract next offseason.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I think he has gotten worse. And now is a liability to the team when making money decisions. Yet I don't see anyone that is trying to stop him or protect the teams financial bottom line
They've been making excuses for Dak for years. Go back and look at the Green Bay game and tell me Dak gave his team a chance to win that game Or the 49ers game the year before, the defense played very well in that game and Dak sucked. Then he got paid,the Cowboys aren't winning crap with Dak. Although they given him what he needs to be successful this year. Drafting him Booker and trading for Pickens should mean Dak has a very good regular season.
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Unfortunately you're going to be correct and that will start the Texans 4-5 year window to win a championship.
Jerry is more about making money, like putting a team in Los Angeles and building a complex in Frisco etc.... than putting a championship level team on the field
They could've traded him before he became a fa.
This is a fallacy that given Texans fans have bought into because of the Texans past difficulties evaluating QBs. Finding a good QB, which is what Dak is, isn't hard to do. Look at the QB class 2 years ago. Williams, Daniels,Maye, Penix, Nix as an example.
Unfortunately? What would you do instead?
TheRealJoker V2
All Pro
So having a top 12 pick in an extremely good QB class is easy to do? Even when you have that uniquely good QB class it’s still a crapshoot. I’d say jury is still out on Penix for example.
Getting a good QB is a crapshoot even if you own the top pick. Much moreso getting a successful QB: See Trey Lance vs Brock Purdy for the same team.
Dak himself was a 4th.
But that’s assuming they have a W-L record low enough to get high enough in the draft order to make that happen. If you only have a mediocre W-L record, mediocre is what’s left available.
If you need a QB trading into the top 12 shouldn't be hard to do because you're probably picking in the top 15 to begin with. Also if say you're picking at 1-25 you could trade up to say 10 in next years draft using a 2016 1st, 2nd, and a 2027 1st
What I do know for sure is once a QB starts eating up too much cap space then that team isn't winning a championship.
After the 4-5 year window is up I would do a Deshaun type deal and start a new championship window. There's a 7 year window in total for a QB to win a championship.
TheRealJoker V2
All Pro
Again, you’ve gotta have a class where it’s worth trading up. They usually aren’t.
If you couldn’t get in the top 2 in 2023 you were stuck with Will Levis. This year after Cam Ward no QB came off the board until 25 and I doubt the Giants feel like Jaxson Dart is a slam dunk prospect.
2024 draft was an outlier in terms of prospect quality. The “20 year” draft imo. Like 2004 and 1983 for QBs.
If you don't have a QB you most likely will have a bad record. Also if you have a good overpaid QB, then you can trade him for enough draft capital to move up in the draft and pick your QB of the future. See: the Derrick trade
2024 is an outlier just like last year's draft is an outlier in the other direction. There are usually 2-3 good QBs in most drafts. Timing is the Key and you would need to scout ahead 2-3 years to do what I'm talking about.
BTW, the 2024 QB draft is why I wanted Caserio to stick and pick in the 2023 draft and pick a QB in 2024. Caserio got lucky with Stroud.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
And what’s the alternative? Have no QB? Or one who’s several steps worse than Dak?
Best of luck signing your stars when you can’t even sniff playoffs.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
And what we saw in the 2024 draft that has QBs is no one was willing to trade down.
It’s widely reported that many teams wanted to move up and absolutely no one was budging.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The Girls didn't sniff the playoffs last year.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
To be fair, Dak was injured for a bunch of games.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
What does it matter if you cant win championships. It's nothing more than time wasted.
Nix could've definitely been traded up for.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
So much for Dameon Pierce taking over Mixon's reps at OTAs. His absence from OTAs is definitely injury-related. But the Texans are pledged to double-secret probation to keep it under wraps! 
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
To be fair, before his hamstring injury, Dak was looking fairly shabby passing an average of 6 yds per completion and had 11 TDs and 8 INTs.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Every team will not win a championship. Some of the greatest of all times quarterbacks didn’t win a superbowl. That’s the nature of the beast. You do know that right?
I know that there's a 6-7 year window for a QB to win a championship due to the cap
Texansballer74
The Marine
It was not because of the cap Dan Marino didn’t win a Superbowl. Again that did not stop Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomas from winning superbowls. You can’t use that excuse anymore.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
How many years has Hurts been in the league? Mahomes? And Mahomes is an outlier.
cland
Rookie
I forgot what the inside of the bubble looks like, my Dad and I went and watched an indoor practice 20ish years ago.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Now your moving the goal post as usual. And no Mahomas isn’t an outlier. Him getting his bag didn’t prohibit them from winning super bowls.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Last season after suffering a grade II calf tear during offseason workouts, Christian Harris returned for the end of TC. It only took one practice to reaggravate the swell, leading to his long-term stay on the IR.
The Texans waited until the bye week before activating Harris because of ongoing calf and ankle issues. Having lost most of the season, over the final 5 games, including 2 postseason matchups, he was limited to just 20 tackles and a sack. He also allowed 11 of 13 targets.
To me this OTA has an erie similarity to last offseason. He has this offseason again suffered a grade II calf tear and is not expected to attempt return until at least TC.
The Texans waited until the bye week before activating Harris because of ongoing calf and ankle issues. Having lost most of the season, over the final 5 games, including 2 postseason matchups, he was limited to just 20 tackles and a sack. He also allowed 11 of 13 targets.
To me this OTA has an erie similarity to last offseason. He has this offseason again suffered a grade II calf tear and is not expected to attempt return until at least TC.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Time to cut bait on Harris. Two years in a row getting a similar injury just by working out? That dude is made of glass.
There's a reason they signed Speed. They have a fairly similar skillset. Harris is probably better against the pass. If all was equal, Harris is probably the better overall player, but he isn't much good in the training room.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
And that’s unfortunate, some players just can’t rebound from particular injuries. Happens all of the time in every sport. Dudes potential was too the rough.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Number19
Hall of Fame
I guess I just don't understand coaching. I mean, Tytus Howard has played almost exclusively, at RT and LG. He has a few snaps at LT, but has played no snaps at RG, for his intire career.
So of course, let's move him to RG for OTA's, get him some snaps there. Of course, on the right side he's pushing off on his previously injured leg. No problem there.
Scruggs at LG is OK. He took quite a few starts at that position last year.
And Jake Andrews taking snaps at C is fine. That's his position; let's see if he can beat out Patterson.
We're paying Tomlinson starters money and we need to develope Fisher at RT. So maybe the plan has been to move Howard to RG all along. Where else do we play him?
But I really don't understand it.