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Draft Tracker 2025

calishung7717 said:
Still have two 2nds and two 4ths next year along with NYG's 3rd. Seems like the only interior lineman they were truly in love with was Booker. Dallas wanted a haul for 12 and just ended up taking him instead. Not really sure how developmental Ersery is? I haven't watched enough of him. He's played a lot at lt and some nfl teams had round one grades on him.
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I know right? I didn’t get the memo only one OG available in the 2025 draft. Hell Ratledge almost made it (two picks before) they’re 3rd rd. selection.
 
Texian said:
He traded away the first-round pick and did not get a first-round pick in return. He got played, which has become his MO. If you think this was the best trade in the draft, look no further than the trade immediately after the Texans' #25 pick. Then there was the trade of a next year 3rd round pick to move up to the 4th round to draft a backup RB. This is not surprising, this is your typical Nick flying by the seat of his pants.
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All of the trade charts had the Texans winning that trade in value. Not that Nick cares about that as he's shown with the Nico trade, Marks trade, and so on. I wouldn't have moved down to 46 either. Too many guys I loved at the start of round 2 including Higgins.
 
Texian said:
You are right, I won't be here long. I'll be back next year for next year's draft. I do not come for the picks. I come to see the clown show known as the Houston Texans' draft. Rest assured we will start next year with what could the Texans have done with the Falcons 1st RD draft pick. I'll also be talking about the clown show and a team that still finds it difficult to beat teams over .500, and if they make the playoffs, they might beat a team without a QB, and if they do, then it will be one and done. You will still be talking about and praising whatever smoke Nick Caserio is blowing up your skirt. In the meantime, I am lamenting how the Texans could've had the Super Bowl Champions, the Philadelphia Eagles Defense.
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The thing is.......it's not a clown show. The org has drafted pretty well lately. You would've dropped down to 46 for the first. They apparently didn't want to do that and I wouldn't have either. Different strokes. They beat Herbert last year when I thought the Chargers would smoke them. Their defense is already championship level. They can easily make noise if the new offensive scheme and weapons come through. I won't hold my breath because this organization has to prove it first but I'm actually somewhat optimistic.
 
Texian said:
My comments show that I was all in for several Georgia players, and I even picked them in my live draft before they became Eagles. But you are going to do what you do.
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Nick loves Georgia and Bama players as well. I think y'all would get along great.

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beerlover said:
That’s privileged information for sure, yet does not dissuade what my eyes see watching tape. I’ve made it abundantly clear, anyone going off PFF draft grades will be missing value unless verified with your own evaluation.

I’ll bet (without inside knowledge) Caserio had been in contact with the Cowboys, probably for Banks. When New Orleans selected Banks, Texan board room went right back to work to trade up for Booker (don’t know this for fact, just gut feeling). So when Dallas took Booker off the board, Texans were reeling, call it plan C. Plan C didn’t work out either as none of the teams selecting ahead were willing to trade picks. So we ended up with plan D. Trade down, take Higgins. It happens, this draft did not fall the Texans or Caserio way.
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This seems to be what happened. I think they were skeptical all along that they could get Banks but were relatively confident that they could get Booker. Didn't work out. Zack Martin retiring probably affected the mindset of Dallas. Then the Texans pivoted. I love Higgins/Noel so I'm not too sad about it. Don't know enough about Ersery but he's massive and athletic as hell so he's a great piece of clay to mold for Popovich.
 
beerlover said:
OMG so Woody Marks is now Josh Gibbs?

What intel suggested Woody was going early in the 4th? I’ve watched his tape, he was well rounded on the College level but JAG on the NFL level and to make matters worse you gave up a 3rd in addition. One of the Texans all time head scratching moves and that’s saying something.
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Marks reminds me of Vereen and White. I don't hate the pick. I do hate giving up their '26 3rd but they still have NYG's plus the two 2nds and two 4ths. Now I'm rooting like hell for Marks to be the perfect complement to Mixon that everyone says he can be.
 
beerlover said:
I know right? I didn’t get the memo only one OG available in the 2025 draft. Hell Ratledge almost made it (two picks before) they’re 3rd rd. selection.
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I like Ratledge a lot. Probably ends up a really good rg replacing Zeitler for the Lions. I understand Texans taking Ersery before him, though, if they believe that he can be a solid future starter at lt. Lions seem to be a team that does their own thing and I respect it. They took Tyleik in round 1 way above some projections and then traded up for TeSlaa in round 3 to take him above where most expected him to go as well.
 
calishung7717 said:
I like Ratledge a lot. Probably ends up a really good rg replacing Zeitler for the Lions. I understand Texans taking Ersery before him, though, if they believe that he can be a solid future starter at lt. Lions seem to be a team that does their own thing and I respect it. They took Tyleik in round 1 way above some projections and then traded up for TeSlaa in round 3 to take him above where most expected him to go as well.
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Agree on all points.
 
Texian said:
The last 3 years have not been much different than the 3 years before that.
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Really?

I dont seem to remember Stingley/WA/CJ etc.. being on the team 3 yrs ago.

A main reason they haven't gone as far as they wanted too in the last couple of yrs is because of a lack of weapons at the WR position That issue has now been solved. They also lacked depth at the CB position, Smith/Darby) that issue has been solved.

They needed an OL, so Caserio drafts the Big 10 OL of the yr.

They needed a 3rd down RB that can pass pro, catch the ball out of the backfield and handle 15 carries a game if Mixon was to get hurt. BTW, I would've drafted a different type of RB, but can certainly understand why Caserio/Ryans chose Marks.

Yet some posters are still complaining. Color me shocked.
 
steelbtexan said:
Really?

I dont seem to remember Stingley/WA/CJ etc.. being on the team 3 yrs ago.

A main reason they haven't gone as far as they wanted too in the last couple of yrs is because of a lack of weapons at the WR position That issue has now been solved. They also lacked depth at the CB position, Smith/Darby) that issue has been solved.

They needed an OL, so Caserio drafts the Big 10 OL of the yr.

They needed a 3rd down RB that can pass pro, catch the ball out of the backfield and handle 15 carries a game if Mixon was to get hurt. BTW, I would've drafted a different type of RB, but can certainly understand why Caserio/Ryans chose Marks.

Yet some posters are still complaining. Color me shocked.
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Let's you and I continue this discussion when the Texans can beat over .500% teams with some regularity and can advance in the playoffs further than being one and done. When that happens, you may have a valid point. Until then we are just butting heads.
 
steelbtexan said:
LOL, true,

I like Ersery as a LG, he's going to really help out in the run game. Big dude that's really athletic.
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Think they view him as post Robinson LT. For some reason, maybe dollar investment in Cam, but that’s two faced because same reason not to draft Conerly. Now Ersery could be RT, but where does that leave Blake Fisher? Does he bounce to LT, third year? Point is, they added more question marks, when there was clear path with Conerly. Oddly enough, in Washington will start week one @ RT. Then post Tunsel moves to LT. To me it’s a swing and miss, both short term and long term.
 
beerlover said:
Think they view him as post Robinson LT. For some reason, maybe dollar investment in Cam, but that’s two faced because same reason not to draft Conerly. Now Ersery could be RT, but where does that leave Blake Fisher? Does he bounce to LT, third year? Point is, they added more question marks, when there was clear path with Conerly. Oddly enough, in Washington will start week one @ RT. Then post Tunsel moves to LT. To me it’s a swing and miss, both short term and long term.
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They like Ersery over Conerly especially after trading down.
 
Texian said:
How about that Executive Vice President of Player Personnel, Eliot Wolf, who has the final say on all players. Who says I cannot be positive?
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Eliot Wolf doesn’t have the final say on players. He actually has to consult Vrabel and Cowden. Actually, he says it himself. Eliot Wolf can’t function unless someone is holding his hand. Last year he couldn’t function because he didn’t have a process. Vrabel came in with Cowden and showed him how to put things together.

Why would anyone think Eliot Wolf has power in that organization? Vrabel brought his guy in Cowden and they make decisions while Eliot gets them coffee.

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Texian said:
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Grading all 32 teams’ 2025 NFL Drafts, from the Raiders rare 'A' to whatever the Browns are doing — For The Win

Pete Carroll's first draft with the Raiders looks like their best haul in years. The Browns, on the other hand, uh, sure made a lot of picks?
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I don't even have to see this to know it is negative. I would bet I can find some positive articles in regards to this draft.

Texian, please sign on to be some teams GM with your vast knowledge and understanding? I would prefer you sign with our Texans so we can become a dynasty!
 
Texian said:
You are right, I won't be here long. I'll be back next year for next year's draft. I do not come for the picks. I come to see the clown show known as the Houston Texans' draft. Rest assured we will start next year with what could the Texans have done with the Falcons 1st RD draft pick. I'll also be talking about the clown show and a team that still finds it difficult to beat teams over .500, and if they make the playoffs, they might beat a team without a QB, and if they do, then it will be one and done. You will still be talking about and praising whatever smoke Nick Caserio is blowing up your skirt. In the meantime, I am lamenting how the Texans could've had the Super Bowl Champions, the Philadelphia Eagles Defense.
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At the bottom part of last season I think it could be argued that we had among the best defenses in the league. It wasn't the defense that cost us our game against the Chiefs in the playoffs. It was our offense which had key injuries to contend with!
 
beerlover said:
That’s privileged information for sure, yet does not dissuade what my eyes see watching tape. I’ve made it abundantly clear, anyone going off PFF draft grades will be missing value unless verified with your own evaluation.

I’ll bet (without inside knowledge) Caserio had been in contact with the Cowboys, probably for Banks. When New Orleans selected Banks, Texan board room went right back to work to trade up for Booker (don’t know this for fact, just gut feeling). So when Dallas took Booker off the board, Texans were reeling, call it plan C. Plan C didn’t work out either as none of the teams selecting ahead were willing to trade picks. So we ended up with plan D. Trade down, take Higgins. It happens, this draft did not fall the Texans or Caserio way.
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I'm not doubting that, Nick was clearly perturbed at not being able to move up in the first.

Should he have offered more? Do we know what they offered?

I'm talking about the later selections that "went to early"
 
beerlover said:
OMG so Woody Marks is now Josh Gibbs?

What intel suggested Woody was going early in the 4th? I’ve watched his tape, he was well rounded on the College level but JAG on the NFL level and to make matters worse you gave up a 3rd in addition. One of the Texans all time head scratching moves and that’s saying something.
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I wasn't comparing them as players, just the idea of the reach is mostly a draftnik thing that actual GMs and scouts don't believe in. Whatever round it is, you get your guy, not more picks to score imaginary brownie points.
 
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I am surprised that Levis didn't get moved some time during the draft. Thought maybe the Saints or Steelers would gamble on his upside. Or a team with an older QB that he could sit behind. Unless the bloom is just totally off the rose, which I could certainly believe.
 
beerlover said:
While Conerly is way higher on my board than Donovan Jackson or what the Texans believed, if that was their evaluation, give up that 3rd pick you gave up for Woody just to move up one spot for Jackson.
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They didn’t want to give up a 3rd to move up for Jackson. Presumably because he was a stick and pick at 25 candidate. Not a trade up candidate.

Nick said after day 1 there was a player they were talking about taking at 25 still available, unless it was Carson Schwesinger it must’ve been Higgins.

Seeing the players taken i’m assuming their “band” of players at the 25 to trade down ranger included Jackson, Conerly, Higgins and maybe Golden.
 
beerlover said:
Funny, did you listen to stream couple days before the draft on S&L with John Harris? Check it out, see what his initial reaction to Ersery was then how he flipped post selection.
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Harris was critical of Ersery comparing him to the upper tier tackles. In the range he was taken, he’s fine with the pick. His writeup in Harris 100 below. Yes, he’s not going to hammer the negatives because he is being paid by 610. But he is balanced in his critique on the player below.




66. OT Aireontae Ersery, Minnesota

6-6, 331 lb.

Ruskin HS in Kansas City, MO



There is a weird juxtaposition of his lateral agility, combined with feet that it looks like he trips over all the time, is weird. He's long and has plenty of power. But, he's on the ground a lot, which is a bit odd. Furthermore, he's not seemingly smooth but damn he can run - he posted a 1.52 second 10-yard split. I mean, what? He squats 640 lb., bench presses well over 400 lb. and did a 410-lb hang clean in the spring. Having done hang cleans all throughout my life, 410 lb.??? What the heck? He's got some heavy hands when he connects. He moves well laterally in the zone game, scooping/zoning off 3-techniques often on runs away from him. That said, I didn’t LOVE him as a quality blind side pass protector when I studied him in the summer of 2024, but thought he had something to build off of in the future and feel that way now.



Player Comp - Packers OT Rasheed Walker
 
Texian said:
You do know that without doing anything at all, a team gets a pick in seven rounds? So, instead of two twos, it could have been two ones. Now imagine for moment, that you package the two ones together and move up into the Top 10, and draft a premier franchise LT.
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How you still don't have a GM job with your amazing insight and skills is a mystery for the ages... Why not 3 or 4 ones? That would have been better.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
They didn’t want to give up a 3rd to move up for Jackson. Presumably because he was a stick and pick at 25 candidate. Not a trade up candidate.

Nick said after day 1 there was a player they were talking about taking at 25 still available, unless it was Carson Schwesinger it must’ve been Higgins.

Seeing the players taken i’m assuming their “band” of players at the 25 to trade down ranger included Jackson, Conerly, Higgins and maybe Golden.
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Will Howard, Jackson, Egbuka, and Judkins all seemed to be Ohio State guys that they wanted but didn't get.
 
beerlover said:
First Round was a complete debacle. He worked harder for less than probably anything he's ever experienced before. Even the trade up for Will Anderson, Jr. At least in that case he got a blue chipper.

Know he tried to trade up and probably offered more than fair trade value, but at the very minimum, it was imperative he get ahead of Minnesota.

No offensive guards?

Reaching for developmental OT instead of taking one in first?

Trading away all extra draft capital both this year and next for players projected rounds later?

Never in a thousand years did I imagine agreeing with Texian, instead on you my friend, this is a sad day indeed & probably end of me doing any further draft work as it relates to Texans.

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You like Conerly, me too.

They liked Ersery, I expect him to play OG next yr. It's not like the guy isn't a great athlete for a guy his size. He won Big 10 OL of the yr over Conerly. Not that that means much.
 
paycheck71 said:
How you still don't have a GM job with your amazing insight and skills is a mystery for the ages... Why not 3 or 4 ones? That would have been better.
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paycheck71 said:
How you still don't have a GM job with your amazing insight and skills is a mystery for the ages... Why not 3 or 4 ones? That would have been better.
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I have been offered 5 or 6 GM jobs and several consulting positions, but I turned them all down.
 
TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
What's wrong with Nick Caley corroborating with Nick Caserio to draft pieces he thinks fit his system?
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Did I say there was anything wrong with it? I just pointed out that it appears as this draft was orchestrated by Caley to implement a new offensive system and playbook. No different than Wade Phillips being promised first-round picks or Alex Gibbs being promised a 1st RD pick, or Lovie Smith doing the same.
 
steelbtexan said:
Really?

I dont seem to remember Stingley/WA/CJ etc.. being on the team 3 yrs ago.

A main reason they haven't gone as far as they wanted too in the last couple of yrs is because of a lack of weapons at the WR position That issue has now been solved. They also lacked depth at the CB position, Smith/Darby) that issue has been solved.

They needed an OL, so Caserio drafts the Big 10 OL of the yr.

They needed a 3rd down RB that can pass pro, catch the ball out of the backfield and handle 15 carries a game if Mixon was to get hurt. BTW, I would've drafted a different type of RB, but can certainly understand why Caserio/Ryans chose Marks.

Yet some posters are still complaining. Color me shocked.
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What's funny is he will just call you a shill. Even though you are highly critical of this organization when warranted.
 
beerlover said:
Think they view him as post Robinson LT. For some reason, maybe dollar investment in Cam, but that’s two faced because same reason not to draft Conerly. Now Ersery could be RT, but where does that leave Blake Fisher? Does he bounce to LT, third year? Point is, they added more question marks, when there was clear path with Conerly. Oddly enough, in Washington will start week one @ RT. Then post Tunsel moves to LT. To me it’s a swing and miss, both short term and long term.
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Didn't Coleman play alright for Washington at RT last season? Good problem to have I guess.
 
TexansBull said:
Eliot Wolf doesn’t have the final say on players. He actually has to consult Vrabel and Cowden. Actually, he says it himself. Eliot Wolf can’t function unless someone is holding his hand. Last year he couldn’t function because he didn’t have a process. Vrabel came in with Cowden and showed him how to put things together.

Why would anyone think Eliot Wolf has power in that organization? Vrabel brought his guy in Cowden and they make decisions while Eliot gets them coffee.

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I wonder if they were going back and forth on Judkins and Henderson. And then Judkins got popped by Cleveland at 36.
 
calishung7717 said:
Didn't Coleman play alright for Washington at RT last season? Good problem to have I guess.
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Kicking Coleman inside, LG. Cosmi RG & Biadasz Center. Tunsil LT & Conerly RT.
Kliff Kingsbury has a pretty clear vision for Jayden Daniels moving forward, better pocket protection, keep Jayden pocket passer & designed runs behind Conerly who pulls like a Guard and can hit targets in space. Gonna be super cool to watch, just wish he could have been here for CJ.
 
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Texian said:
I have been offered 5 or 6 GM jobs and several consulting positions, but I turned them all down.
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I am a Nigerian prince but my uncle (who is an evil man!) is trying to steal my throne. I quickly need to get my millions of dollars out of the country if you could DM me your banking details I will transfer my millions of dollars into your account for safe keeping!!
 
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