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Texans Hire Nick Caley as New OC

I can remember any of the top QBs being affected like Stroud. One or two games maybe. This looked more like regression from the 2nd year QB.
So Brady never struggled against the Giants defense or any other top notches defenses? I guess Manning never struggled in the playoffs in the beginning huh? When Coach Payton got suspended for a year, I guess you didn’t see how bad Breezy struggled?


But hey I digress because I know exactly what time it is.
 
So Brady never struggled against the Giants defense or any other top notches defenses? I guess Manning never struggled in the playoffs in the beginning huh? When Coach Payton got suspended for a year, I guess you didn’t see how bad Breezy struggled?


But hey I digress because I know exactly what time it is.
How many good games did S2roud have in 2024?
 
Would have expected with all your big dog, big bank roll, offensive line starters returning healthy. They could have protected S2roud better and created open lanes for Mixon, instead he had to make his own.
of course. There was a lot of underperformers on offense.
 
I can't remember any of the top QBs being affected like Stroud. One or two games maybe. This looked more like regression from the 2nd year QB.
Sometimes it is only 1-2 games, but the point is CJ saw pressure like that literally all season. And only a few QBs have seen it like that all season early in their careers. Stafford is 1 of those guys. Favre is another. Pressure like that is why Aaron Rodgers could never get past the 49ers in the NFCCG. He just looked like a fish out of water every time he played them. Pressure like that is why Manning had so many problems with Belichick and NE early in his career.
Mahomes in the SB against Tampa..he looked like crap.
 
So results dont matter in your world? Got it, moving on, I've done way too much typing on this subject. As of right now CJ has a long way to go to become yr 3 Brady. Hopefully he gets there. He's got the talent.

Are Ryans defenses as good as Belichick's defenses? Yes they had a great kicker and yes, Brady's greatnees shined through at the brightest of moments and for you to say otherwise is what's truly asinine. They call him the GOAT for a reason.

Of course they do genius, but if they aren’t it’s quite appropriate to drill down & find out exactly why that is ………and assign appropriate responsibility. In this case the main responsibility for the offensive failures this past year is CLEARLY on the oline. Everyone seems to understand that but you.

It’s not “well, Stafford didn’t get us to the promised land…we wasted a #1 pick on him so he sucks…moving on”

That’s not only overly simplistic rationale , it’s quite idiotic and the epitome of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
 
Of course they do genius, but if they aren’t it’s quite appropriate to drill down & find out exactly why that is ………and assign appropriate responsibility. In this case the main responsibility for the offensive failures this past year is CLEARLY on the oline. Everyone seems to understand that but you.

It’s not “well, Stafford didn’t get us to the promised land…we wasted a #1 pick on him so he sucks…moving on”

That’s not only overly simplistic rationale , it’s quite idiotic and the epitome of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Where did I say I want to get rid of CJ? What I said are results matter and CJ was part of the problem. He would tell you that himself. Good thing is how next yrs offense performs will be mostly on CJ because Caley is going to give him full control of the offense. We'll see how things turnout.
 
Yeah, but CJ gets a pass.
CJ’s the only reason we stood a chance to win or did win many of those games sir. Sub him out with Davis Mills and we’re definitely missing the playoffs.

The only outright bad game he had last year that primarily lost b/c of his play alone was the Detroit game. All the rest you can draw a direct link to his performances to the ineptness of the oline play and playcalling. And even in some of those atrociously protected games he still managed to put us in a position to win..The GB game…BOTH KC games im thinking of..we just lost late for some other reason.
 
Where did I say I want to get rid of CJ? What I said are results matter and CJ was part of the problem. He would tell you that himself. Good thing is how next yrs offense performs will be mostly on CJ because Caley is going to give him full control of the offense. We'll see how things turnout.
New OC calling plays for the 1st time and learning his players

New personnel along the o-line learning each other and a new offense

New blocking scheme

QB learning a new offense

No it won’t. It’ll be on EVERYONE.

And I wont expect a whole lot until around midseason.
 
New OC calling plays for the 1st time and learning his players

New personnel along the o-line learning each other and a new offense

New blocking scheme

QB learning a new offense

No it won’t. It’ll be on EVERYONE.

And I wont expect a whole lot until around midseason.
Since CJ is going to be given the keys to the offense what percentage would you say would be on him. It seems like you're going out of your way to find excuses for CJ if he doesn't succeed.
 
And guess what CJ did late in that game? Dropped a dime to Nico on the sideline to seal it…b/c his protection was solid.
Yes he did and what gives me hope is he didn't really play that well that game. But he came up clutch when it counted the most. That's what winners do, they dont care about stats, they care about making plays when it comes to winning time. I'm hoping CJ can regain that magic. After seeing him in the playoffs I expect him too and will be disappointed if he doesn't.
 
CJ’s the only reason we stood a chance to win or did win many of those games sir. Sub him out with Davis Mills and we’re definitely missing the playoffs.

The only outright bad game he had last year that primarily lost b/c of his play alone was the Detroit game. All the rest you can draw a direct link to his performances to the ineptness of the oline play and playcalling. And even in some of those atrociously protected games he still managed to put us in a position to win..The GB game…BOTH KC games im thinking of..we just lost late for some other reason.
The Baltimore game he was pretty bad. Missed a lot of open receivers and reads in that game.
 
Since CJ is going to be given the keys to the offense what percentage would you say would be on him. It seems like you're going out of your way to find excuses for CJ if he doesn't succeed.

The success of the offense isn’t gonna happen overnight dude. There’s gonna be growing pains for all parties involved on that side of the ball & they’ll be a lot that’ll be going on. And you won’t be able to assign a percentage to anyone until we see them play.
 
The success of the offense isn’t gonna happen overnight dude. There’s gonna be growing pains for all parties involved on that side of the ball & they’ll be a lot that’ll be going on. And you won’t be able to assign a percentage to anyone until we see them play.
Agreed and I'm sure you will have the excuses lined up if things dont go well. Kinda like you had them lined up for the Pervert.
 
The same way you gave Davis freaking Mills a pass. And Mr. Jump offside at the most important time of the game Tunsil.
I never gave Mills a pass, I said he never stood a chance to be successful playing QB with Lovie/Pep and those bad teams. I actually was disappointed in Mills regression. (There's that word again)

I dont see false starts as a big deal and Tunsil's a top 5-7 LT. Lets hope CJ can become a top 5-7 QB. He wasn't last yr.
 
I never gave Mills a pass, I said he never stood a chance to be successful playing QB with Lovie/Pep and those bad teams. I actually was disappointed in Mills regression. (There's that word again)

I dont see false starts as a big deal and Tunsil's a top 5-7 LT. Lets hope CJ can become a top 5-7 QB. He wasn't last yr.
None of the Qb's considered the 5-7 ranked n the NFL would have been considered that good with the our Texans last season. That said, I don't think CJ was ready to reach that level of success with any team last season! Let's see how things come together next season.
 
Sometimes it is only 1-2 games, but the point is CJ saw pressure like that literally all season. And only a few QBs have seen it like that all season early in their careers. Stafford is 1 of those guys. Favre is another. Pressure like that is why Aaron Rodgers could never get past the 49ers in the NFCCG. He just looked like a fish out of water every time he played them. Pressure like that is why Manning had so many problems with Belichick and NE early in his career.
Mahomes in the SB against Tampa..he looked like crap.
So no one's seen that kind of pressure as consistently as S2roud. If he's not broke he's the first to have seen it that consistently & survived.

I understand this.
 
CJ’s the only reason we stood a chance to win or did win many of those games sir. Sub him out with Davis Mills and we’re definitely missing the playoffs
That defense was the only reason we stood a chance. Kris Boyd could have scored a single TD in the second half of 7 games.
 
That defense was the only reason we stood a chance. Kris Boyd could have scored a single TD in the second half of 7 games.

Kris Boyd had 48 snaps on defense last season. I get where you’re going but that’s a bit of an overexaggeration…

Defense was Super Bowl caliber last season and on-paper looks even better. BUT they had pretty good luck with injuries.

Yes Pitre got hurt, WA missed a couple games as did Azeez/Lassiter and Ward… Not having Harris was rough but healthy Stingley and Hunter all season makes a huge difference. Lets hope we have similar luck this season with our core members of the defense.
 
So no one's seen that kind of pressure as consistently as S2roud. If he's not broke he's the first to have seen it that consistently & survived.

I understand this.
Wouldn't it be nice to see him have a lot less pressure? See him flourish and be the real CJ?
Of course it is the aim of every DC to make life as difficult as they can for him, but it is also our OCs job to thwart those plans.
 
That defense was the only reason we stood a chance. Kris Boyd could have scored a single TD in the second half of 7 games.
Think you’re misremembering things. That defense didn’t really start to come together and start playing SB caliber until late in the season.

1st Colts game Anthony Freakin Richardson was bombing on us.

GB game Ross was getting torched in the secondary and they gave up the game winning drive at the last minute.

Minny game was pretty much a disaster right from the start b/c the defense couldn’t stop Darnold.

So was the Baltimore game.

We also lost AGAIN to The damn Jets in prime time.

I’m not saying the offensive struggles weren’t apart of a few of these games as well, but the defense didn’t really start putting it together like that until late in the season.
 
So no one's seen that kind of pressure as consistently as S2roud. If he's not broke he's the first to have seen it that consistently & survived.

I understand this.
As consistently for a whole season as bad as ours last year? Can’t recall but a few. Andrew Luck comes to mind…& well, we know what eventually happened to him.
 
None of the Qb's considered the 5-7 ranked n the NFL would have been considered that good with the our Texans last season. That said, I don't think CJ was ready to reach that level of success with any team last season! Let's see how things come together next season.
I'm just happy he stayed home and is learning the new offense instead of traveling the world this offseason.
 
I'm just happy he stayed home and is learning the new offense instead of traveling the world this offseason.
After his wildly successful rookie season, it would have been in his mind that this NFL thing is easy. Then he comes back to earth with a thud in his sophomore season so it is encouraging to see that he seems have realized he has some work to do!
 
After his wildly successful rookie season, it would have been in his mind that this NFL thing is easy. Then he comes back to earth with a thud in his sophomore season so it is encouraging to see that he seems have realized he has some work to do!
You wouldn't think this post is true if you read Mr. Tex posts.
 
Wouldn't it be nice to see him have a lot less pressure? See him flourish and be the real CJ?
Of course it is the aim of every DC to make life as difficult as they can for him, but it is also our OCs job to thwart those plans.
Of course it would be better had he not seen that kind of pressure. But we need a guy who's clutch, more times than not & he has to be mentally tough more times than not. Cj wasn't last year. That's all I'm saying. He's developing. Hopefully he uses it to get better.

But we've seen many talented young QBs who didn't.
 
Think you’re misremembering things. That defense didn’t really start to come together and start playing SB caliber until late in the season.

1st Colts game Anthony Freakin Richardson was bombing on us.

GB game Ross was getting torched in the secondary and they gave up the game winning drive at the last minute.

Minny game was pretty much a disaster right from the start b/c the defense couldn’t stop Darnold.

So was the Baltimore game.

We also lost AGAIN to The damn Jets in prime time.

I’m not saying the offensive struggles weren’t apart of a few of these games as well, but the defense didn’t really start putting it together like that until late in the season.
You're probably right... must have been the 27 points per game our offense was scoring that kept us competitive.
 
I never gave Mills a pass, I said he never stood a chance to be successful playing QB with Lovie/Pep and those bad teams. I actually was disappointed in Mills regression. (There's that word again)

I dont see false starts as a big deal and Tunsil's a top 5-7 LT. Lets hope CJ can become a top 5-7 QB. He wasn't last yr.
You do know every comment we made is easy to find on here correct? Nevermind you don’t do the research thingy around here.
 
Of course it would be better had he not seen that kind of pressure. But we need a guy who's clutch, more times than not & he has to be mentally tough more times than not. Cj wasn't last year. That's all I'm saying. He's developing. Hopefully he uses it to get better.

But we've seen many talented young QBs who didn't.

But he was all of that & then some in his rookie year…not that I agree with your premise about him last year, but would t it be prudent to ask what changed between his rookie year and last year?
 
After his wildly successful rookie season, it would have been in his mind that this NFL thing is easy. Then he comes back to earth with a thud in his sophomore season so it is encouraging to see that he seems have realized he has some work to do!
He did put in work throughout the offseason. No one thought that offensive line was going to be that bad. And why did Slowik go away from what was working in the previous season?
 
But not 27. So nice try.
Yup b/c that 1 pt was the difference in the losses to Minny and GB..which were the only 2 losses we had in those 1st 7..1 of which wouldn’t have been a loss if the defense holds in that final drive. The other loss, the defense got their doors blown off…so scoring 27 wouldn’t have mattered anyway.
 
B/c it’s supposition and innuendo being passed off as fact like a lot of the nonsense you post.
I dont pass anything off as fact unless it's a fact. Example: CJ was part of the problem last yr. The rest is just opinions Example: Brady's the GOAT and the Texans would be lucky to have CJ turnout anywhere nearly as good as Brady.
 
I dont pass anything off as fact unless it's a fact. Example: CJ was part of the problem last yr. The rest is just opinions Example: Brady's the GOAT and the Texans would be lucky to have CJ turnout anywhere nearly as good as Brady.
He was as much part of the problem as Tunsil’s false starts ….
 

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He did put in work throughout the offseason. No one thought that offensive line was going to be that bad. And why did Slowik go away from what was working in the previous season?
I know he's put in the work this off-season, would you say he put in the same amount of work last off-season? I expect a big yr next yr from CJ.

Did Slowik go away from the 2023 offense?
 
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