Welcome to Houston Cam Robinson

[SnakeEyes]

We have to wait until OTAs at the very least. Then maybe, we will see if any of these guys are at least standing up to our DL. Probably mini camp really to find out. And then we will know what it appears we have. Keep in mind that our DL and LBs should be ranked high. Meaning that if they do an OK to good job vs our line. They should be able to do a great job vs a less than top 5 DL. As I see our DL being a top-10 or top 5 with the now rotation ability keeping everyone rested and ready...we already know what Anderson and Hunter can do...even tired.

 

[Errant Hothy]

Robinson has never played a down of NFL football at RT.

I know, but nobody has until they do.

It's not a reason to not move someone if you think they'll succeed at another spot. Not playing a position doesn't preclude you from being successful at said position, plenty of guys have made transitions, both as rookies and vets.

 

[steelbtexan]

I know, but nobody has until they do.

It's not a reason to not move someone if you think they'll succeed at another spot. Not playing a position doesn't preclude you from being successful at said position, plenty of guys have made transitions, both as rookies and vets.

Let's move him to TE since they need a TE that can block if they want him to change positions. This makes about as much sense as moving a guy from a spot he's played for a decade to put Howard at LT. If they thought Howard could play LT Caserio wouldn't have spent 14 mil on Robinson.

 

[Errant Hothy]

Let's move him to TE since they need a TE that can block if they want him to change positions. This makes about as much sense as moving a guy from a spot he's played for a decade to put Howard at LT. If they thought Howard could play LT Caserio wouldn't have spent 14 mil on Robinson.

Acting like moving from LT to RT is the same as moving from LT to TE is hyperbole at the least.

Also who said anything about Howard at LT? I was proposing that it would be Fisher at LT, a position he does have experience at.

As for Caserio, I think he wants the best OL unit on the field, and he and Ryans don't give **** about a player's salary or where they played last season or last decade

 

[leebigeztx]

Don't forget that Step 2 isn't over yet. If the Texans bring in a T and G in the first two rounds of the draft I feel perfectly fine with having the newly signed vets to compete with them. Assuming that's the plan, it certainly can't hurt to have Cam Robinson to teach/show Blake Fisher and a new draft pick how to play LT... particularly because Cam will be playing his ass off trying to get a new 2026 contract.

You mean like they've done the previous 2 yrs? How have that worked out? The Bears knee the problem and jumped on it quickly getting Tuney. Texans, not so much

 

[leebigeztx]

Acting like moving from LT to RT is the same as moving from LT to TE is hyperbole at the least.

Also who said anything about Howard at LT? I was proposing that it would be Fisher at LT, a position he does have experience at.

As for Caserio, I think he wants the best OL unit on the field, and he and Ryans don't give **** about a player's salary or where they played last season or last decade

If having the best ol on the field, how you explain the moves they've made?

 

[Errant Hothy]

If having the best ol on the field, how you explain the moves they've made?

Best of what they have in the room, not best in the NFL. Thought that would be obvious

 

[badboy]

It's no big deal and it's not my native tongue so maybe I've got it wrong but...

Nombre is name, but it's a masculine word and you used the feminine article. I think that's what TKyss was specifically talking about.

The whole saying should be... en el nombre del padre, del hijo, y del Espiritu Santo. But, again, not my native tongue so I could be mistaken. I don't want to be the grammar police guy who gets grammar policed.

Texansstalk.com! The only place you can go and not only get your sports information with discussion but also correction on your grammar in another language. Multiple apologies to anyone I offended or had their feelings hurt. I would say vaya con Dios but someone who says his name is Gabriel is at my door with a message.

 

[badboy]

Banks is a good run blocker.

Oh I agree but my point was that in run blocking the offensive lineman usually has to resolve his blocking assignment and not pass that person off to someone else as they often do in past blocking. I am not sure Robinson will be able to eliminate his guy. Anyway I guess we'll see.

 

[badboy]

Let's move him to TE since they need a TE that can block if they want him to change positions. This makes about as much sense as moving a guy from a spot he's played for a decade to put Howard at LT. If they thought Howard could play LT Caserio wouldn't have spent 14 mil on Robinson.

I would think Robinson can block better than any of the tight ends we have now...

 

[cland]

You mean like they've done the previous 2 yrs? How have that worked out? The Bears knee the problem and jumped on it quickly getting Tuney. Texans, not so much

The Bears had mountains of cap space and Tuney is already 32 years old. If you're going to rebuild the line for the long-term you're going to have to (continuously) draft young guys who can come in and win the job. I'll say it again, I'm not looking at FA like they solved the OL problem. I was just happy they got Cam Robinson because he is a much better band-aid than what they already had on the roster. The real work will start in the draft.

 

[Lucky]

I had responses to 4 posts, but each of them had responses similar to mine, but better. Guess I'll just sit back and read.

 

[cland]

I had responses to 4 posts, but each of them had responses similar to mine, but better. Guess I'll just sit back and read.

Hehe, the worst is when you have your reply all typed out and the "There have been new posts" pops up right before you send it.

 

[TheRealJoker V2]

Texansstalk.com! The only place you can go and not only get your sports information with discussion but also correction on your grammar in another language. Multiple apologies to anyone I offended or had their feelings hurt. I would say vaya con Dios but someone who says his name is Gabriel is at my door with a message.

Also the only place we complain about how the team looks in March. Nevermind this team has one of the most busy GMs in the league when it comes to making moves to improve their roster.

There are currently 73 players under contract. 90 players need to be brought to training camp. Lets see what else Nick is cooking.

 

[badboy]

Also the only place we complain about how the team looks in March. Nevermind this team has one of the most busy GMs in the league when it comes to making moves to improve their roster.

There are currently 73 players under contract. 90 players need to be brought to training camp. Lets see what else Nick is cooking.

Exactly! I know that I'm going to get a hot chick at the end of April but it's only the end of March!! Wah!

 

[leebigeztx]

The Bears had mountains of cap space and Tuney is already 32 years old. If you're going to rebuild the line for the long-term you're going to have to (continuously) draft young guys who can come in and win the job. I'll say it again, I'm not looking at FA like they solved the OL problem. I was just happy they got Cam Robinson because he is a much better band-aid than what they already had on the roster. The real work will start in the draft.

Instead of spending 7m on Rankins and 12m on Robinson, Thuney makes 15m and is a all pro guard. He has shown no signs of drop off and can play at a high level for 3 yrs. The mssg they delivered is not being reflected in their actions. They haven't signed a decent oline player yet, especially inside. We just seen this story and it was ugly. You want a draft pick to protect your greatest commodity? Did you see Scruggs last year?

 

[TexansBull]

I had responses to 4 posts, but each of them had responses similar to mine, but better. Guess I'll just sit back and read.

This.

 

[dalemurphy]

This.

and this.

 

[SnakeEyes]

Instead of spending 7m on Rankins and 12m on Robinson, Thuney makes 15m and is a all pro guard. He has shown no signs of drop off and can play at a high level for 3 yrs. The mssg they delivered is not being reflected in their actions. They haven't signed a decent oline player yet, especially inside. We just seen this story and it was ugly. You want a draft pick to protect your greatest commodity? Did you see Scruggs last year?

That could be true. But, come TC and any other players we bring in...*cough* trade Schultz for a pick *cough* and then draft a TE, WR, RB and 2 OL. Seeing it looks like the D is almost set. Maybe a backup DB in the Schultz deal and a pick.

Anyway back to the topic, we will see what we really have come TC. We might be surprised by the OL needed players who fit the system and once we have them (even if it looks sketchy) is actually a solid line.

 

[Porky]

Nobody is going to trade for Schultz, not with his current contract. Even if the Texans absorbed a bunch of it, he's not worth more than a 7th or a pick swap based on last year. I think Schultz is here and playing with the Texans in 25. If he doesn't improve much...next year they can make a move.

 

[steelbtexan]

Acting like moving from LT to RT is the same as moving from LT to TE is hyperbole at the least.

Also who said anything about Howard at LT? I was proposing that it would be Fisher at LT, a position he does have experience at.

As for Caserio, I think he wants the best OL unit on the field, and he and Ryans don't give **** about a player's salary or where they played last season or last decade

Moving a guy that's played a position for a decade and paying him 14 mil isn't a smart move IMHO.

 

[TheRealJoker V2]

Moving a guy that's played a position for a decade and paying him 14 mil isn't a smart move IMHO.

Good thing they wont be doing that.

 

[Sweech]

I maybe the only guy that would be happy if Caserio went BPA and drafted a developmental OT/OG in rd 3. I like Jackson Slater and Anthony Belton a lot in this scenario.

1. Loveland
2. Noel
3. Darius Alexander
3. Slater or Belton.

Or give me Golden and Taylor in rds 1-2.

I’m right with you for that. The draft isn’t top heavy but it’s got some depth and I’d rather take advantage of it than not.

 

[cland]

I’m right with you for that. The draft isn’t top heavy but it’s got some depth and I’d rather take advantage of it than not.

I certainly don't want to reach, but I think there are plenty of OT/OGs to fill that pick at 25. The Texans getting some 1 year vets doesn't really solve the O-line problem long term. Now if it went WR/OT/OG I could live with that, but it's not my preference. I think primarily run-blocking TEs can be gotten later in the draft.

 

[welsh texan]

Instead of spending 7m on Rankins and 12m on Robinson, Thuney makes 15m and is an all pro guard. He has shown no signs of drop off and can play at a high level for 3 yrs. The mssg they delivered is not being reflected in their actions. They haven't signed a decent oline player yet, especially inside. We just seen this story and it was ugly. You want a draft pick to protect your greatest commodity? Did you see Scruggs last year?

Thing is, DeMeco has shown that he is able to win ugly if he spends those resources on the DL, no one on the offensive coaching staff has yet proven they can do any better for investing more money in the OL.

They’ve patched it up, have a (shaky) OL ready to play a game tomorrow on their depth chart which opens up their draft board, a couple of key coaching hires, and some picks to go and improve the talent.

It’s going to be a work in progress, and that is a bit scary considering where CJ is at in his career, but it’s the pragmatic approach.

I love how excited some posters are getting about potential OL targets in the draft, I also don’t want them reaching for the next best player if who they want is gone, open draft board is extemely important otherwise you end up drafting lesser talent at the business end of your drafts.

 

[TexanBorn51]

Welcome aboard Cam!

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

I know, but nobody has until they do.

It's not a reason to not move someone if you think they'll succeed at another spot. Not playing a position doesn't preclude you from being successful at said position, plenty of guys have made transitions, both as rookies and vets.

Robinson has never played a down of NFL football at RT.

You usually want a big Mauler at RT for the run game. Robinson has not been a mauler in the run game at LT. In fact, he has been below average. Any tackle will tell you the whole mechanics of getting out of your stance, footwork, eye and hand coordination, and muscle memory is entirely different.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

This is bothersome to me..............

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[thunderkyss]

Did Former Jaguars HC Impact Cam Robinson Joining Texans?

Is former Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Doug Marrone one reason the New England Patriots didn't pursue Cam Robinson, who then signed with the Houston Texans?

www.si.com

"Patriots never did the LT dance with Cam Robinson, who signed with the Texans earlier today. Questions about football character and beyond. They have a good inside source. New OL coach Doug Marrone was part of the group that drafted him in Jacksonville," Boston Sports Journal's Mike Giardi said.

Now that isn't directly saying the Patriots didn't pursue Robinson because of Doug Marrone, but Giardi is reporting the Patriots were seemingly not interested in the former Jaguars' tackle. And with Marrone a key part of the Patriots' new staff, one would assume his input on Robinson would be taken with plenty of value.

 

[steelbtexan]

This is bothersome to me..............

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Looks like he was avg with the Jags. I'll be happy with avg. Not many penalties with the Jags and that's what's most important to some posters.

Some posters are going to find out how the other 1/2 live when it comes to the LT position.

 

[Porky]

Looks like he was avg with the Jags. I'll be happy with avg. Not many penalties with the Jags and that's what's most important to some posters.

Some posters are going to find out how the other 1/2 live when it comes to the LT position.

We have been living as the other half. Now I want to be the other other half!

 

[steelbtexan]

We have been living as the other half. Now I want to be the other other half!

What would be your solution?

 

[Porky]

No idea. They got rid worst of the worst of the worst. The non swarm and lazy work ethic types are largely gone. I could argue Howard, but let’s see if he improves once the Tunsil ick wears off. Until we see the draft and how these guys perform, it’s an open question. I question some of the FA moves, and with Nick’s track record as it relates to the o-line it’s a worry. Im hoping Caley knows what he is doing. It’s down to hope and a wing and a prayer.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Keep in mind the difference between hurries and pressures. A hurry is any play where the QB is induced to throw the ball earlier than intended or chased out of the pocket, while a pressure is a more encompassing stat that covers sacks, hurries and QB knockdowns.

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[thunderkyss]

Keep in mind the difference between hurries and pressures. A hurry is any play where the QB is induced to throw the ball earlier than intended or chased out of the pocket, while a pressure is a more encompassing stat that covers sacks, hurries and QB knockdowns.

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So i guess the question is, if we know this, why doesn't Nick know this?

Or, if Nick knows this why did he sign this guy?

Or, if Nick didn't sign him would another team sign him to a similar contract?

We can frame this "decision" like this, they decided to pay Cam Robinson $14M in 2025 in lieu of paying Laremy Tunsil $21M.

 

[thunderkyss]

Vikings, with void at LT, add Jaguars' Robinson

The Vikings acquired left tackle Cam Robinson in a trade with the Jaguars on Tuesday, sources told ESPN, adding a potential replacement for injured incumbent Christian Darrisaw.

www.espn.com

Robinson started the Jaguars' first seven games but was benched for fourth-year player Walker Little on Sunday against Green Bay. That was the first time in Robinson's career he had been active for a game and not played.

Jaguars coach Doug Pederson said Monday it was undecided if Little would be the starter going forward.

Robinson, who has a career pass block win rate of 81.7%, played in nine games in 2023, missing the first four while suspended for violating the league's performance-enhancing drug policy. He missed four other games while on injured reserve with a knee injury.

That was the third consecutive season in which Robinson missed games because of injury. He has played just one full season (2020) since the Jaguars drafted him 34th in 2017 and has missed 32 games in his career because of injury, suspension or benching.

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Keep in mind the difference between hurries and pressures. A hurry is any play where the QB is induced to throw the ball earlier than intended or chased out of the pocket, while a pressure is a more encompassing stat that covers sacks, hurries and QB knockdowns.

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But the same site listed Cam Robinson as the 3rd best OT and 38th overall best player

38. Cam Robinson, OT, Minnesota Vikings

Age: 29 | FA Position Rank: 3

Cam Robinson hasn’t always been consistent, and there were some moments late in the season with the Vikings when he was picked on as a pass protector, but his size and traits will still be alluring for some teams. He only has one full season with a passing blown block rate under three percent.

2025 NFL Free Agency Rankings: Top 100 Players Available This Offseason

Explore our ranking of the top 100 2025 NFL Free Agents, including receivers like Tee Higgins and Stefon Diggs and quarterbacks like Justin Fields and Sam Darnold...

www.the33rdteam.com

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

This is bothersome to me..............

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so here is the PFF full story

Top 2025 NFL free agents at every position

Bengals wide receiver Tee Higgins headlines the 2025 free-agent class, followed by Chiefs guard Trey Smith and Dolphins safety Jevon Holland.

www.pff.com

Offensive Tackle​

1. Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
2. Cam Robinson, Minnesota Vikings
3. Tyron Smith, New York Jets

Cam Robinson | Houston Texans T | NFL and PFF stats

NFL and PFF player stats for Houston Texans T Cam Robinson on Pro Football Focus.

www.pff.com

 

[JB]

So Robinson had as many penalties as Tunsil AND allowed the most pressures?

Oh Joy!

Well the masses got their wish... I hope Stroud survives to get a second contract see 2026

 

[Number19]

Short memories. Vikings coaching staff said Robinson's pass blocking wasn't an issue considering their QB was holding the ball so long. Run blocking was their concern needing improvement. Holding penalties weren't mentioned, but may have been linked with how long the OLmen were being asked to keep the defense off the QB.

 

[JB]

Holding penalties weren't mentioned, but may have been linked with how long the OLmen were being asked to keep the defense off the QB.

Robinson only had 2 holding calls, the rest were false starts

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

But the same site listed Cam Robinson as the 3rd best OT and 38th overall best player

38. Cam Robinson, OT, Minnesota Vikings

Age: 29 | FA Position Rank: 3

Cam Robinson hasn’t always been consistent, and there were some moments late in the season with the Vikings when he was picked on as a pass protector, but his size and traits will still be alluring for some teams. He only has one full season with a passing blown block rate under three percent.

2025 NFL Free Agency Rankings: Top 100 Players Available This Offseason

Explore our ranking of the top 100 2025 NFL Free Agents, including receivers like Tee Higgins and Stefon Diggs and quarterbacks like Justin Fields and Sam Darnold...

www.the33rdteam.com

Rankings like this can be subjective................it doesn't change the worrisome stats. At the time of Robinson's signing only Stanley was left. The Texans were never going to compete with the 3-year $60 million contract the the Ravens gave him.

 

[amazing80]

he isn't the long-term solution. They swapped Tunsil for Robinson to save money and a warm body that is above average. They will draft a rookie that can hopefully push to be a quality starter this season.

 

[Porky]

As it stands, there are 4 legit options for starting LT. Pending the draft. It wouldn’t shock me if there is a 5th competitor.

I think Robinson gets first crack and if he sucks, the deck will be shuffled. I don’t think this line will settle until at least 2026.

 

[thunderkyss]

As it stands, there are 4 legit options for starting LT. Pending the draft. It wouldn’t shock me if there is a 5th competitor.

I think Robinson gets first crack and if he sucks, the deck will be shuffled. I don’t think this line will settle until at least 2026.

It's difficult for me to wrap my head around guys with the experience we have not being able to put together consistent play to allow an offense to operate. How can these guys stay in the league as long as they have & not be able to do what they are being paid to do.

Even Patterson & Scruggs, they played enough in 2023 to be proficient in 2024. & honestly they weren't terrible at the end there, Patterson at Center, Scruggs at RG.

Kendall Green & Mason playing as long as they did is what screwed us over last season. As long as the new coaches aren't as stubborn/blind as the last bunch we should be OK, even with what we have now.

Unless you see someone in the draft that will take this line to the next level I don't care if we skip OL the entire draft.

To me it sounds like that guy isn't there as far as OT is concerned.

 

[NitroGSXR]

Cam Robinson also had to block for Sam Darnold. Darnold is a guy who waits and waits for an open WR. He has been known to frustrate his o-line as a result.

 

[TheRealJoker V2]

 

[cland]

so here is the PFF full story

Top 2025 NFL free agents at every position

Bengals wide receiver Tee Higgins headlines the 2025 free-agent class, followed by Chiefs guard Trey Smith and Dolphins safety Jevon Holland.

www.pff.com

Offensive Tackle​

1. Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
2. Cam Robinson, Minnesota Vikings
3. Tyron Smith, New York Jets

Cam Robinson | Houston Texans T | NFL and PFF stats

NFL and PFF player stats for Houston Texans T Cam Robinson on Pro Football Focus.

www.pff.com

1. Ronnie Stanley - 3 year 60M
2. Cam Robinson - 1 year 12M (escalators up to 14.5M)
3. Tyron Smith - 1 year 20M

Okay, someone try and spot the deal...

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Rankings like this can be subjective................it doesn't change the worrisome stats. At the time of Robinson's signing only Stanley was left. The Texans were never going to compete with the 3-year $60 million contract the the Ravens gave him.

The Texans got (depending on the list) OT 2-5 in free agency. There really was not much better available. Says probably more about the market than the goodness of the player. In short, there wasn't much in the way of other options.

 

[steelbtexan]

No idea. They got rid worst of the worst of the worst. The non swarm and lazy work ethic types are largely gone. I could argue Howard, but let’s see if he improves once the Tunsil ick wears off. Until we see the draft and how these guys perform, it’s an open question. I question some of the FA moves, and with Nick’s track record as it relates to the o-line it’s a worry. Im hoping Caley knows what he is doing. It’s down to hope and a wing and a prayer.

They got rid of their best OL by a wide margin. Now they have filled in with an avg LT. Lets see how this plays out. Howard certainly doesn't have the swarm mentality that you're looking for, yet he got restructured. Howard isn't a LT, in fact it's very debatable if he's more than an avg RT. I guess an avg LG would be an upgrade over what they had at LG last yr and avg at best is what Howard was last yr.