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Mr teX said:
You’re cracking up b/c you know you’re out of your depth and don’t what the hell you’re talking about. Like I said moving the goalposts b/c you can’t formulate a credible argument to anything else I’ve said.

You’re the supposed law mind here, go do your research and see how many. “School me”
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^Makes an argument, can’t support it. If you were Watson’s attorney he would definitely be in prison.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
^Makes an argument, can’t support it. If you were Watson’s attorney he would definitely be in prison.
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And clearly you and all the evidence you said was present didnt have the goods to convict him either or he’d already be there.

Go cry in the corner
 
Mr teX said:
Sure right after you show me where DW4 has lost 14 games in 2 seasons…thanks
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Currently on a 2-10 pace as it is, with the schedule being one of the most difficult remaining. They are losing at least 14 games. Then, next season, the team will be stripped to expansion era players. He has no arm strength left or mobility in it. It’s going to be a blast.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Currently on a 2-10 pace as it is, with the schedule being one of the most difficult remaining. They are losing at least 14 games. Then, next season, the team will be stripped to expansion era players. He has no arm strength left or mobility in it. It’s going to be a blast.
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djohn2oo8 said:
If you need to have everything perfect for you as a QB to win games, you aren’t a franchise QB and never were one.

4-12
2-15 coming
2-15 and again
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You don’t get 230 million handed to you and not be one. You also don’t pass for 4000 yards and 30 TDs. I know that hurts u to acknowledge, but that just the truth. Now he may not be that guy anymore, but I’m thinking that Browns organization might have just a little more to do with that than u might want to acknowledge b/c it interferes with your narrative. Cleveland is where QB careers go to die; been that way since 1999.

And just like with all the other stuff you were just so sure about in 2020, you’ll most likely be disappointed b/c it’s highly likely that none of this will happen. Something will be done or happen. And you’ll be on to making yourself look foolish with your next crusade.

Go outside bro..seems like you need it.
 
Mr teX said:
I’m not saying DW4 DIDNT benefit from it..but to act like the team was in shambles until Flacco became the starter as if he was the difference in them making the playoffs is disingenuous. He stabilized the position due to DW4 and DTR’s injuries, nothing more.

And go tell Colts fans how good Flacco looks lol. Watson’s not playing well..that much is agreed upon. But let’s not act like that Browns team is a qb away. The defense isn’t playing anywhere close to the level it was last year, they have no run game to speak of without Chubb, the o-line is a mash unit and with the trade of Cooper, they they REALLY have nothing outside to threaten defenses vertically.
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That's because the team has given up on Derrick as the QB, leader of the team. The Cooper trade will probably be the first of many the Browns make. Hopefully the Texans benefit by trading for Newsome and a LB
 
Mr teX said:
Weren’t u the guy that also said he was DEFINITELY going to prison and all that stuff back in 2020? You’re 0 for 1 in your predictions thus far. As such, u should probably sit this one out with Steelb.

His arm might be done.. he might have the Cam Newton thing going on. But given the history of former Browns’ qbs going elsewhere and miraculously playing better, or at the very least looking much better than they did when they played there, there’s a distinct possibility his arm might not be done and he’s fine. But even in Newton’s case, he still was able to go and play for the Patriots a few years after his shoulder surgery rendered him not the same guy.
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I honestly don't remember if I said definitely. He definitely should have gone to prison, but I forgot how crooked the Harris County DA's office is.
 
Mr teX said:
Yeah, sounds like another 1 of your silly wishes you’re trying to pass off as a certainty. But long as guys like Blaine Gabbert, Mitch Trubusky and your guy Nathan Peterman..who accomplished absolutely nothing in the league can find jobs as backups…I think DW4 can probably swing 1 for a few years after he’s done in Cleveland.

It must chap your hide that that’s more true than not huh?

your hatred for someone who doesn’t even know u exist is not even borderline looney anymore 😂. But hey, whatever helps u get up in the morning right?
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I don't hate anyone. I do believe society would be better without Derrick in it

You're quite the fanboy, it must chao your ass to have been so wrong about Derrick as a football player.I tried to tell you before all of the pervert stuff came out. That probably chaps your ass as much as Derricks crappy play. Think about this, he's the worst starting QB in the NFL and the highest paid QB in the NFL. LMAO
 
djohn2oo8 said:
I’m certain that you shouldn’t be bragging as if this is a victory lap. This current “settled” case doesn’t need the victim’s cooperation for HPD to file charges and has a 10 year statue of limitation as it is a rape allegation. By the way, there are more cases out there that are even more egregious.
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I'm taking solace in the victims area going to get a lot of his money if he wants to stay out of jail. What a POS
 
Mr teX said:
Except it’s a team sport and there are COUNTLESS examples where your qb IS good and the team still sucks. You should know that considering we dealt with this very issue in 2020 ironically WITH DW4 when he passed for 4000 yards 30 TDs and we went 4-12.

But please, tell me how simple it is…you’re on a roll.

It’s the most important position on the field..but it’s not the only position on the field.
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I tried to tell you those were hollow numbers, but you wouldn't listen. Looks like you still won't listen. Nothing has changed except Derrick has less money.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Most interesting. Jacoby Brissett also had a better season than Watson at QB in Cleveland the year before as well.
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I remember a time when I said Brissett was a better QB than Derrick and got laughed at mercilessly.

Look how things turned out and Browns fans are crying now while I'm LMAO. Good times
 
Mr teX said:
This is the problem with debating on emotion. You’ve literally yet to counterpoint anything I’ve said. All you’ve done is move the goalposts.

why don’t you start with a credible argument, and then maybe I’ll entertain your nonsensical, terrible questions.
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Okay, I'll play

Derrick has always been vastly overrated and put up empty stats. Now he just sucks, as in he's the worst QB in the NFL kind of suck. Go check out the stats for yourself.😂
 
Mr teX said:
You don’t get 230 million handed to you and not be one. You also don’t pass for 4000 yards and 30 TDs. I know that hurts u to acknowledge, but that just the truth. Now he may not be that guy anymore, but I’m thinking that Browns organization might have just a little more to do with that than u might want to acknowledge b/c it interferes with your narrative. Cleveland is where QB careers go to die; been that way since 1999.

And just like with all the other stuff you were just so sure about in 2020, you’ll most likely be disappointed b/c it’s highly likely that none of this will happen. Something will be done or happen. And you’ll be on to making yourself look foolish with your next crusade.

Go outside bro..seems like you need it.
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Just give him the names and that will stop the back and forth.


Apparently guys that aren't franchise QB s and put up empty numbers can get paid 230 mil.


Only crooks like the Haslam's 😂
 
steelbtexan said:
I tried to tell you those were hollow numbers, but you wouldn't listen. Looks like you still won't listen. Nothing has changed except Derrick has less money.
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lol I know you’re old and there are certain things that just don’t quite stick up there anymore in the old noodle, but you sure as hell can lie to yourself can’t you? The numbers weren’t hollow. The team was just awful…more specifically the defense under Anthony Weaver b/c if u remember that year we lost like 6 games by 1 score. It was so awful it got Bob fired midway thru the season and we got stuck with Crennel the rest of the way..not much better. DW4 was literally the only bright spot on a team so awful, it drove away Captain America ass JJ Watt in the offseason.

But don’t let all that get in the way of your gaslighting ass narrative.

steelbtexan said:
I remember a time when I said Brissett was a better QB than Derrick and got laughed at mercilessly.

Look how things turned out and Browns fans are crying now while I'm LMAO. Good times
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you were wrong then & you’re still wrong now truthfully considering Brissett is 2-3 teams removed from when u made that statement and just recently got benched for a rookie who threw for more TD’s in 1 game than Brissett has thrown for all season. Talk about good times..it’s always good to watch u make a fool of yourself trying to pay yourself on the back lol.
steelbtexan said:
I don't hate anyone. I do believe society would be better without Derrick in it

You're quite the fanboy, it must chao your ass to have been so wrong about Derrick as a football player.I tried to tell you before all of the pervert stuff came out. That probably chaps your ass as much as Derricks crappy play. Think about this, he's the worst starting QB in the NFL and the highest paid QB in the NFL. LMAO
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Not at all. & sure buddy, you hate no one. Is that why you’ve invested so much time in posting about a guy who hasn’t been on the Texans team in 3 years? Who you trying to fool. The way you and a few others in here spam this MB with every single little negative piece of press on DW4, you’d think he did something to 1 of your family members. It’s totally irrational and probably the best example of hate 1 can point to on as it pertains to a MB. But it must really kill you that after all this time you STILL just can’t get it right. so much time & hatred invested..& so little “payback”.



steelbtexan said:
That's because the team has given up on Derrick as the QB, leader of the team. The Cooper trade will probably be the first of many the Browns make. Hopefully the Texans benefit by trading for Newsome and a LB
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And just like the Jets when they quit on Zach Wilson thinking all their problems would be solved, they too will come to find out that they suck for more than 1 reason.


steelbtexan said:
I honestly don't remember if I said definitely. He definitely should have gone to prison, but I forgot how crooked the Harris County DA's office is.
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Yeah u said definitely. Ol’ Tony buzzard had you all hyped up believing his grandstanding nonsense and u fell for it..Amazing how u can code switch like you do when it’s convenient. So of course the Harris county DA is “crooked”…it couldn’t be that there just wasn’t much there in the way of evidence could it?
 
steelbtexan said:
Just give him the names and that will stop the back and forth.


Apparently guys that aren't franchise QB s and put up empty numbers can get paid 230 mil.


Only crooks like the Haslam's 😂
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all he had to do was go look at the litany of Browns QBs that have failed over the years. He didn’t wanna do that b/c he knew his premise was full of **** to begin with b/c he was projecting what could happen…..like I knew he was.
And just based on projections, like I said in the very beginning, that **** happens quite often. 😂.
 
Mr teX said:
all he had to do was go look at the litany of Browns QBs that have failed over the years. He didn’t wanna do that b/c he knew his premise was full of **** to begin with b/c he was projecting what could happen…..like I knew he was.
And just based on projections, like I said in the very beginning, that **** happens quite often. 😂.
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All you had to do was support your OWN argument with names. You couldn’t and you can’t because Watson is an unprecedented loser.
 
steelbtexan said:
Okay, I'll play

Derrick has always been vastly overrated and put up empty stats. Now he just sucks, as in he's the worst QB in the NFL kind of suck. Go check out the stats for yourself.😂
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Correct. Franchise QBs also don’t have seasons where they win just 4 games. And on a path for less this season.
 
Mr teX said:
lol I know you’re old and there are certain things that just don’t quite stick up there anymore in the old noodle, but you sure as hell can lie to yourself can’t you? The numbers weren’t hollow. The team was just awful…more specifically the defense under Anthony Weaver b/c if u remember that year we lost like 6 games by 1 score. It was so awful it got Bob fired midway thru the season and we got stuck with Crennel the rest of the way..not much better. DW4 was literally the only bright spot on a team so awful, it drove away Captain America ass JJ Watt in the offseason.

But don’t let all that get in the way of your gaslighting ass narrative.


you were wrong then & you’re still wrong now truthfully considering Brissett is 2-3 teams removed from when u made that statement and just recently got benched for a rookie who threw for more TD’s in 1 game than Brissett has thrown for all season. Talk about good times..it’s always good to watch u make a fool of yourself trying to pay yourself on the back lol.

Not at all. & sure buddy, you hate no one. Is that why you’ve invested so much time in posting about a guy who hasn’t been on the Texans team in 3 years? Who you trying to fool. The way you and a few others in here spam this MB with every single little negative piece of press on DW4, you’d think he did something to 1 of your family members. It’s totally irrational and probably the best example of hate 1 can point to on as it pertains to a MB. But it must really kill you that after all this time you STILL just can’t get it right. so much time & hatred invested..& so little “payback”.





And just like the Jets when they quit on Zach Wilson thinking all their problems would be solved, they too will come to find out that they suck for more than 1 reason.



Yeah u said definitely. Ol’ Tony buzzard had you all hyped up believing his grandstanding nonsense and u fell for it..Amazing how u can code switch like you do when it’s convenient. So of course the Harris county DA is “crooked”…it couldn’t be that there just wasn’t much there in the way of evidence could it?
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Mr. TeX, have you ever been raped? Being a woman I do…not going into details but essentially for women it’s he said she said and of course evidence does not exist. The last thing on a victim’s mind is going to a hospital and doing a rape test. Deshaun has power, a millionaire and protected by the NFL, which btw does nothing but continue to reward predators for their behavior and saying BS, like we are conducting an investigation. So acting like it didn’t happen because no evidence is really insensitive. FYI:

According to data from RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network), only a very small percentage of rape cases in the United States result in a conviction, with estimates suggesting that for every 1,000 rapes, only around 7 cases lead to a felony conviction; this is largely due to the difficulty of proving rape in court, often because of a lack of physical evidence and the challenges victims face in coming forward and testifying.
 
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Mariotexan said:
Mr. TeX, have you ever been raped? Being a woman I do…not going into details but essentially for women it’s he said she said and of course evidence does not exist. The last thing on a victim’s mind is going to a hospital and doing a rape test. Deshaun has power, a millionaire and protected by the NFL, which btw does nothing but continue to reward predators for their behavior and saying BS, like we are conducting an investigation. So acting like it didn’t happen because no evidence is really insensitive. FYI:

According to data from RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network), only a very small percentage of rape cases in the United States result in a conviction, with estimates suggesting that for every 1,000 rapes, only around 7 cases lead to a felony conviction; this is largely due to the difficulty of proving rape in court, often because of a lack of physical evidence and the challenges victims face in coming forward and testifying.
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Wow. Thank you for sharing.
 
Mr teX said:
lol I know you’re old and there are certain things that just don’t quite stick up there anymore in the old noodle, but you sure as hell can lie to yourself can’t you? The numbers weren’t hollow. The team was just awful…more specifically the defense under Anthony Weaver b/c if u remember that year we lost like 6 games by 1 score. It was so awful it got Bob fired midway thru the season and we got stuck with Crennel the rest of the way..not much better. DW4 was literally the only bright spot on a team so awful, it drove away Captain America ass JJ Watt in the offseason.

But don’t let all that get in the way of your gaslighting ass narrative.


you were wrong then & you’re still wrong now truthfully considering Brissett is 2-3 teams removed from when u made that statement and just recently got benched for a rookie who threw for more TD’s in 1 game than Brissett has thrown for all season. Talk about good times..it’s always good to watch u make a fool of yourself trying to pay yourself on the back lol.

Not at all. & sure buddy, you hate no one. Is that why you’ve invested so much time in posting about a guy who hasn’t been on the Texans team in 3 years? Who you trying to fool. The way you and a few others in here spam this MB with every single little negative piece of press on DW4, you’d think he did something to 1 of your family members. It’s totally irrational and probably the best example of hate 1 can point to on as it pertains to a MB. But it must really kill you that after all this time you STILL just can’t get it right. so much time & hatred invested..& so little “payback”.





And just like the Jets when they quit on Zach Wilson thinking all their problems would be solved, they too will come to find out that they suck for more than 1 reason.




Yeah u said definitely. Ol’ Tony buzzard had you all hyped up believing his grandstanding nonsense and u fell for it..Amazing how u can code switch like you do when it’s convenient. So of course the Harris county DA is “crooked”…it couldn’t be that there just wasn’t much there in the way of evidence could it?
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1. They lost a lot of those 1 scored games because Derrick couldn't come up big in big situations. The anti Brady.

2. Derrick is literally the worst QB in the NFL.

3. I hate no one, I do know a POS person when I see one, I guess you could call that a gift and pointing out that a person is a POS doesn't mean I hate the person. Hate will eat you up from the inside out. I'm not looking for payback, I'm just wishing another criminal was in jail where he belongs.

4. The team still hasn't quit on Rodgers. BTW, the NYJ are still in the running to make the playoffs. Rodgers play this yr is light yrs ahead of Derrick's play.

5. Tony is doing what he promised his clients from the beginning, he's getting his clients paid. As far as Derrick being put in jail and the DA's office, of course he should be in jail but you must not know Hardin's relationship with the DA'S office. DeJohn can speak to this better than I ever could.

Further more I cant believe your still defending a perverted serial predator. I once stood on an island with very few on my side trying to tell everybody what a POS Derrick was. Now you're on that island, welcome. BTW, the only reason I spend as much time on this topic as I do relates to my responding to driveling posts like this one. Maybe I'm a slow learner like you said above and need to stop responding to this drivel.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1846738782466244634
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The Browns are counting heavily on Chubb's return to cure most of the Browns and Watson's ills. As I've previously posted, a RB coming back from an ACL and MCL does not have a great prognosis for expected performance.

A recent study of Post ACL player prognosis:

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Orthop J Sports Med
. 2022 Mar 7;10(3):23259671221079637. doi: 10.1177/23259671221079637

Return to Play and Performance After Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Players​

Kush S Mody †,*, Amanda N Fletcher ‡, Craig C Akoh ‡, Selene G Parekh ‡

Abstract​


Background:​

Considerable variability exists in return-to-play rates after anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury and reconstruction (ACLR) among National Football League (NFL) players of different positions.

Purpose/Hypothesis:​

The purpose of this study was to compare return-to-play and performance levels by position in NFL players after ACLR. It was hypothesized that (1) ACL injuries have significant effects on the careers of NFL players, including return to play and performance, and (2) players of certain positions that involve relatively less pivoting and cutting perform better after ACLR.

Study Design:​

Descriptive epidemiology study.

Methods:​

All NFL players who underwent ACLR between 2013 and 2018 were identified using the FantasyData injury database. Player characteristics, snap count, games played, games started, and performance metrics were collected for 3 years before and after injury using the Pro Football Reference database. Performance was measured using an approximate value (AV) algorithm to compare performance across positions and over time. Nonparametric tests were used to compare the pre- and postinjury data and the percentage change in performance between different positions.

Results:​

Overall, 312 NFL players were included in this study, and 174 (55.8%) returned to play. Of the eligible players, only 28.5% (n = 59/207) remained in the league 3 years postinjury. Within the first 3 years postinjury, players played in fewer games (8.7 vs 13.7; P < .0001), started in fewer games (3.0 vs 8.3; P < .0001), had lower AVs (1.5 vs 4.3; P < .0001), and had decreased snap counts (259.0 vs 619.0; P < .0001) compared with preinjury. Quarterbacks were most likely to return to play (92.9% vs 53.7%; P = .0040) and to return to performance (2% vs 50% decrease in AV; P = .0165) compared with the other positions. Running backs had the largest decrease in AV (90.5%), followed by defensive linemen (76.2%) and linebackers (62.5%).

Conclusion:​

The study findings indicated that NFL players are severely affected by ACL injury, with only 28.5% still active in the league 3 years after the injury. Running backs, defensive linemen, and linebackers performed the worst after injury. Quarterbacks were most likely to return to play and had superior postinjury performance compared with the other positions.
 
In this honest post, Pelissero tries to give a glimmer of hope that theoretically, Watson's shoulder injury is partly to blame for his performance problems and that it could possibly be that it will take more time for his shoulder and performance to return to "normal."

What I can tell you by watching video is that some of his problems can be traced to his injury, but most of his problems are based on what has always held him back...............his decision-making. As far as his shoulder problem, the injury entailed significant trauma to the boney joint, the joint labrum and the joint articular cartilage. These combinations of joint injuries do not tend to get better with time and the continued trauma of throwing (and getting hit and tackled to ground)..............they become progressively degenerative.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1847327234715242625
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Unfortunately, his biggest problem is that during the massages, he never kept the towel over his "head." :chef:
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Couldn’t
 
Mariotexan said:
Mr. TeX, have you ever been raped? Being a woman I do…not going into details but essentially for women it’s he said she said and of course evidence does not exist. The last thing on a victim’s mind is going to a hospital and doing a rape test. Deshaun has power, a millionaire and protected by the NFL, which btw does nothing but continue to reward predators for their behavior and saying BS, like we are conducting an investigation. So acting like it didn’t happen because no evidence is really insensitive. FYI:

According to data from RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network), only a very small percentage of rape cases in the United States result in a conviction, with estimates suggesting that for every 1,000 rapes, only around 7 cases lead to a felony conviction; this is largely due to the difficulty of proving rape in court, often because of a lack of physical evidence and the challenges victims face in coming forward and testifying.
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Thank you for your post. I have taken care of my share of rape victims............and the physical damage pales in comparison to the permanent psychologic damage it imparts to its victims. I've previously posted in another Watson thread the rape statistics re. numbers reported vs numbers arrested vs numbers brought to trial vs numbers ever convicted....................and it's an embarrassment to the society we are, and our legal system which is so manipulated by money and power.
 
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