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Porky said:
But the cap ramifications??
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Yeah I know. Just saying I’d consider three firsts. They’re going to be picking -very- high too.

FYI… my comment isn’t meant to be construed as this being something that I want to happen. I was just randomly talking out of my butt.
 
TexansBull said:
The Browns have first round picks to give to trade him away. The irony.

The gave up 3 firsts to get him. They would have to give up another first or more to get rid of him.

Couldn’t happen to a better owner.
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How many 1st round picks would you need to take that contract?
 
thunderkyss said:
How many 1st round picks would you need to take that contract?
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When the Texans traded Brock Osweiler a 2nd round pick was worth 16 million.

Based on the link below Watson is owed 36 million the next two years.

I can’t math very well but it looks like a 2025 1st and 2nd and a 2026 1st would be a starting point.

I will email Slick Nick. He would know.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1843022682981593503
 
TexansBull said:
When the Texans traded Brock Osweiler a 2nd round pick was worth 16 million.

Based on the link below Watson is owed 36 million the next two years.

I can’t math very well but it looks like a 2025 1st and 2nd and a 2026 1st would be a starting point.

I will email Slick Nick. He would know.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1843022682981593503
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Why would they ever trade him WITH picks, and then STILL have to accrue pretty much the same dead money hit as cutting him?

Edit. OK, not the same cap hit, my bad.
 
paycheck71 said:
Why would they ever trade him WITH picks, and then STILL have to accrue pretty much the same dead money hit as cutting him?
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The Browns offense's latest flop Sunday.............. Watson finished the Commanders game with an 8.5 QBR, his third start with a total QBR under 10 since joining the Browns, tied withZach Wilson and Mac Jones for the most by any starting quarterback in that span.
 
paycheck71 said:
Not the same cap hit. I made a wrong assumption in my calculations. OTC knows better.

Deshaun Watson Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap

Deshaun Watson contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history
overthecap.com
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Based on your link it looks like they have to stick with him through the 2025 season and then cut him or trade him. That minimizes any cap hit.
 
Watson, Haslam, Browns.....................................

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A Deshaun Watson trade wouldn’t be impossible (but it would be pretty close to that)
By Mike Florio
Published October 9, 2024 09:43 PM

There’s chatter in the hellscape previously known as Twitter regarding the notion that quarterback Deshaun Watson would welcome a trade out of Cleveland.

I would welcome a Ferrari in my driveway, with the title in my name.

Deshaun Watson isn’t getting traded, not with his current contract. No one would trade for him at this point. He has lost his mojo. While a change of scenery might help him get it back, no team in their right mind will bet on that possibility — especially with $46 million fully guaranteed in 2025 and another $46 million fully guaranteed in 2026.

The Browns would surely love to trade him. And they’d probably pay some of the contract to make it happen. Heck, they might even consider a Brock Osweiler-type deal, where they give up draft picks in order to get a team to take on the cash and cap obligation.

The Browns did just that with Brock Osweiler, assuming his $17 million guaranteed salary in 2018 and getting a second-round pick from the Texans. (They cut him before the start of the season.)

But that was $17 million. This is $92 million.

A trade before June 1 also would result in a cap acceleration in 2025 for $80.77 million. (Then again, they’re already looking at a cap charge of $72.935 million for Watson’s contract next year.)

If Watson wants out badly enough, maybe he’d reduce his salary. But how much would he eat to go elsewhere? He’d have to give up plenty in order to make the move enticing to the Browns and his new team.

It’s not impossible, but it’s highly unlikely. The more likely reality is that the Browns will hope he rediscovers the magic (especially with the latest lawsuit settled) that made them give up three first-round picks, three more picks, and $230 million, fully guaranteed.

He was moving in the right direction last year. He played very well in an upset over the Ravens in Baltimore. Then came the injury that knocked him out for the rest of the year.

All in all, it’s currently a mess. The Browns are stuck. Watson is stuck. But he’s still looking at pocketing $92 million in 2025 and 2026. Why should he give up a penny of what he’s owed?

Still, if he wants a fresh start, he might have to buy it. And it won’t be cheap.

Meanwhile, everyone but the Browns realizes that it’s time for Watson to take a seat in the hopes that Jameis Winston can give the Browns a much-needed spark before the season is lost.

Again, the Browns have to pay Watson. They don’t have to play him. And maybe if they bench him, he’ll decide it’s worth eating some of the salary he’s not currently earning.
 
The 2 accounts that most all have attributed to being Watson's burner accounts (@Vernon Pritchard and @LeroyBickers4} , especially since almost all posted tweets occurred when Watson wasn't playing, is not apparently what it seems. Now I have been told the these 2 knuckleheads are actually Watson's marketing manager, Bryan Burney and Watson's personal QB coach Quincy Avery.:pursefight:
 
djohn2oo8 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1845078753216692589
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Well, if they want to restrict guaranteed money... that opens them up to great scrutiny.

How long have people had season tickets. Every team hypes up their season and most fall flat while the fans pay for seats year after year at an insane price.

So IF they sour on "guaranteed money" how is that any different than a fan overpaying for seats and the promise of more guaranteed money to the NFL if their team makes the playoffs..... in the Texans case its short lived. (Historically)

IF a team is willing to agree to terms and part of those terms is guaranteed money... keep your nose out of it... or practice what you preach and realize the fans quickly "sour" on your ticket increases.

I never had season tickets but had family that did. When they wanted to get rid of them I said Id take them over.... til I heard how much they paid....

I couldn't help but laugh..... then say.... "Nah, Im good."
 
KA4Texan said:
Well, if they want to restrict guaranteed money... that opens them up to great scrutiny.

How long have people had season tickets. Every team hypes up their season and most fall flat while the fans pay for seats year after year at an insane price.

So IF they sour on "guaranteed money" how is that any different than a fan overpaying for seats and the promise of more guaranteed money to the NFL if their team makes the playoffs..... in the Texans case its short lived. (Historically)

IF a team is willing to agree to terms and part of those terms is guaranteed money... keep your nose out of it... or practice what you preach and realize the fans quickly "sour" on your ticket increases.

I never had season tickets but had family that did. When they wanted to get rid of them I said Id take them over.... til I heard how much they paid....

I couldn't help but laugh..... then say.... "Nah, Im good."
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I think they mean fully guaranteed contracts.
 
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