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2024 Roster Prediction Thread: week one of the Texans' first championship run

@steelbtexan in that scenario I believe our OT4 is someone that isn’t on the team right now as you stated. Peters, another Vet that gets cut today, or a prospect they liked this year or last in the draft that is stashed on a PS somewhere else. Heck was never more than a breathing body of mass IMO. I think his background as a coaches son has kept him around but as far as physical talent - ehhhh.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Lucky, you are just way off on this. Who should they have signed instead to compete for OT4? Who should not have been signed to have the backups backup at OT? They have so much draft capital (I mocked Fisher to Texans btw)… and they have so much cap room. They signed Heck due to familiarity. They signed Erving when Heck got hurt (another vet OL). They weren’t signing anyone over that level for OT4. That’s not how optimal team building works.

Chiefs have a guy drafted AFTER Fisher starting at LT this season. But you’re gonna complain about OT4?!
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He's just looking at something to gripe about when it comes to what Caserio is doing.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Lucky, you are just way off on this. Who should they have signed instead to compete for OT4? Who should not have been signed to have the backups backup at OT? They have so much draft capital (I mocked Fisher to Texans btw)… and they have so much cap room. They signed Heck due to familiarity. They signed Erving when Heck got hurt (another vet OL). They weren’t signing anyone over that level for OT4. That’s not how optimal team building works.

Chiefs have a guy drafted AFTER Fisher starting at LT this season. But you’re gonna complain about OT4?!
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First, thanks for the red herrings. Very appetizing.

"They have so much cap room." Um, the Texans have over $20 million in cap space. Pretty sure another vet OT could have been squeezed in.

When free agency opened, the Texans were still nearly 2 months from the draft. They did not know for a fact they would find their swing OT in the draft. They needed to go through the draft process, and then take their draft choice through training camp to find out if he can get the job done. If you're telling me that the Texans plan all along was to take a OT in the late 2nd round and the OT depth problem would be solved, then you're making my case for poor planning.

Yes, the Texans re-signed Heck. He's been in their building for 4 years. If any team knew about Heck's injuries, it was the Texans. No brownie points for that.

Erving was a street FA. No points for planning, there.

I could give a flip about how the Chiefs handle their business. I'm a Texans fan and am concerned about the Texans. But if you know anything about the differences in the Chiefs and Texans offense, it's that the Chiefs get rid of the ball much quicker than the Texans. Mahome's average intended air yards per attempt in 2023 was 6.5. CJ Stroud averaged 9 intended air yards per pass attempt. That 2.5 yards per attempt is huge. And requires precious time. The Chiefs realize they can't protect their franchise QB with deep drops and design their offense accordingly. Is that what we want Slowik and Stroud to do? Would they have the same success as Reid and Mahomes? Apples and Oranges.

2024 FA OTs that signed for reasonable prices:

George Fant - $4.45 million
Joseph Noteboom - $6.75 million
Trent Brown - $4.75 million
Donavan Smith - $3 million
Mekhi Becton - $2.75 million
Andrus Peat - $2.23 million

None of those signing would have been fiduciary irresponsible or an infringement upon "optimal team building."

It's possible I am "way off on this" regarding the Texans attempt at proving OT depth for the 2024 roster. But you did not prove that in any way, shape, or form.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Offense: 25
2 QB: Stroud, Mills
4 RB: Mixon, Akers, Jordan, Ogunbowale
1 FB: Brooks
6 WR: Diggs, Collins, Dell, Metchie, Hutchinson, Woods
2 LT: Tunsil, Fisher
2 LG: Green 1 Green 2
2 C: Scruggs, Patterson
1 RG: Mason
2 RT: Howard, Broeker
3 TE: Schultz, Stover, Jordan

Defense: 25
4 DE: Anderson, Hunter, Barnett, Hughes
5 DT: Fatukasi, Edwards, Davis, Hinish, Harris
6 LB: Al-Sha'air, Harris, To'o To'o, Hewitt, Tooley, Hansen
5 CB: Stingley, Lassiter, Okudah, Bryant, Ford
5 S: Pitre, Ward, Bullock, Stewart, Murray

ST: 3
1 Punter: Townsend
1 Kicker: Fairbairn
1 LS: Weeks

Suspension: Autry

PUP or IR: Andrew Beck, Noah Brown, Settle
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Surprised Hinish was the IR designated return and not Settle. Harris too but should’ve been expected given reinjury. I felt Tooley showed more than Hill at LB but they must be banking on upside.

7 WRs is interesting but I think that changes as soon as they find someone they like from another team’s camp cuts. Probably DT or LB. Only 8 DL seems low for a DeMeco defense. Expecting another addition there.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Surprised Hinish was the IR designated return and not Settle. Harris too but should’ve been expected given reinjury. I felt Tooley showed more than Hill at LB but they must be banking on upside.

7 WRs is interesting but I think that changes as soon as they find someone they like from another team’s camp cuts. Probably DT or LB. Only 8 DL seems low for a DeMeco defense. Expecting another addition there.
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Part of me wonders if carrying 7 WRs isn't a Tricky Nicky play to get compensation for Woods or Metchie.
 
Lucky said:
First, thanks for the red herrings. Very appetizing.

"They have so much cap room." Um, the Texans have over $20 million in cap space. Pretty sure another vet OT could have been squeezed in.

When free agency opened, the Texans were still nearly 2 months from the draft. They did not know for a fact they would find their swing OT in the draft. They needed to go through the draft process, and then take their draft choice through training camp to find out if he can get the job done. If you're telling me that the Texans plan all along was to take a OT in the late 2nd round and the OT depth problem would be solved, then you're making my case for poor planning.

Yes, the Texans re-signed Heck. He's been in their building for 4 years. If any team knew about Heck's injuries, it was the Texans. No brownie points for that.

Erving was a street FA. No points for planning, there.

I could give a flip about how the Chiefs handle their business. I'm a Texans fan and am concerned about the Texans. But if you know anything about the differences in the Chiefs and Texans offense, it's that the Chiefs get rid of the ball much quicker than the Texans. Mahome's average intended air yards per attempt in 2023 was 6.5. CJ Stroud averaged 9 intended air yards per pass attempt. That 2.5 yards per attempt is huge. And requires precious time. The Chiefs realize they can't protect their franchise QB with deep drops and design their offense accordingly. Is that what we want Slowik and Stroud to do? Would they have the same success as Reid and Mahomes? Apples and Oranges.

2024 FA OTs that signed for reasonable prices:

George Fant - $4.45 million
Joseph Noteboom - $6.75 million
Trent Brown - $4.75 million
Donavan Smith - $3 million
Mekhi Becton - $2.75 million
Andrus Peat - $2.23 million

None of those signing would have been fiduciary irresponsible or an infringement upon "optimal team building."

It's possible I am "way off on this" regarding the Texans attempt at proving OT depth for the 2024 roster. But you did not prove that in any way, shape, or form.
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Leading up to the draft, in March like you said… scouts and front offices have done their homework ob the draft class. At this point they decide what types of players will be available at each pick. You’re smart enough to understand that. Just loke you’re smart enough to understand a team is not going to be investing more than street FA salary on an OT4 if they want to build a competitive roster.

Yes, there is cap room currently but you don’t run it to zero for when the season starts. That would be irresponsible when actual injuries hit a position (like the OL last year) and Nick needs to maneuver to fill holes on the roster. Hopefully now you understand better, but if you still don’t I am at least happy the team does and they agree with me over you on this topic and British Brooks at FB over Beck or Hairston. :)
 
cland said:
Part of me wonders if carrying 7 WRs isn't a Tricky Nicky play to get compensation for Woods or Metchie.
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Could be. Angling for player/player swap or a draft pick.

Also lighter DL could be they think their young guys will make PS and be game day elevations until Hinish returns.
 
austins23 said:
How are we feeling about our LB’er group? Not trying to start crap, just honestly want feedback.
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I'm not 100% confident in their ability to stop RBs from getting past the second level or stopping TEs. I just hope that the DEs can put just enough pressure on QBs and force errant passes. I'm not saying our front seven will be bad, I'm just hoping that I'm wrong or burnt toast Okudah will give up A LOT of TDs!
 
Lucky said:
He's an interior lineman by trade. Moved to OT because of injury (Heck) and the fact that Caserio didn't bring in any veteran competition at OT during free agency. Close to getting an apple and a roadmap. As it stands, Cameron Erving, a journeyman street free agent with his 6th team, would actually be OT4. That shouldn't stop Nick from working the phones to find someone better.
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Spencer Tillman would agree. :)
 
Updated roster from Texans.com

Offense -- 26 Players

QB: Davis Mills -- C.J. Stroud
WR: Nico Collins -- Tank Dell -- Stefon Diggs -- Xavier Hutchinson -- John Metchie III -- Steven Sims -- Robert Woods
C/G: Kendrick Green -- Jarrett Patterson -- Juice Scruggs
RB: Cam Akers -- British Brooks -- Joe Mixon -- Dare Ogunbowale -- Dameon Pierce
TE: Brevin Jordan -- Dalton Schultz -- Cade Stover
T: Blake Fisher -- Tytus Howard -- Laremy Tunsil
G: Nick Broeker -- Kenyon Green -- Shaq Mason

Defense -- 24 Players

LB: Azeez Al-Shaair -- Jake Hansen -- Neville Hewitt -- Jamal Hill -- Del'Shawn Phillips -- Henry To'oTo'o
DE: Will Anderson Jr. -- Derek Barnett -- Jerry Hughes -- Danielle Hunter
CB: Kris Boyd -- Myles Bryant -- Kamari Lassiter -- Jeff Okudah -- Derek Stingley Jr.
S: Calen Bullock -- Eric Murray -- Jalen Pitre -- M.J. Stewart -- Jimmie Ward
DT: Khalil Davis -- Mario Edwards Jr. -- Folorunso Fatukasi -- Tim Settle Jr.

Special Teams -- 3 Players

LS: Jon Weeks
P: Tommy Townsend
K: Ka'imi Fairbairn
 
mws said:
Updated roster from Texans.com

Offense -- 26 Players

QB: Davis Mills -- C.J. Stroud
WR: Nico Collins -- Tank Dell -- Stefon Diggs -- Xavier Hutchinson -- John Metchie III -- Steven Sims -- Robert Woods
C/G: Kendrick Green -- Jarrett Patterson -- Juice Scruggs
RB: Cam Akers -- British Brooks -- Joe Mixon -- Dare Ogunbowale -- Dameon Pierce
TE: Brevin Jordan -- Dalton Schultz -- Cade Stover
T: Blake Fisher -- Tytus Howard -- Laremy Tunsil
G: Nick Broeker -- Kenyon Green -- Shaq Mason

Defense -- 24 Players

LB: Azeez Al-Shaair -- Jake Hansen -- Neville Hewitt -- Jamal Hill -- Del'Shawn Phillips -- Henry To'oTo'o
DE: Will Anderson Jr. -- Derek Barnett -- Jerry Hughes -- Danielle Hunter
CB: Kris Boyd -- Myles Bryant -- Kamari Lassiter -- Jeff Okudah -- Derek Stingley Jr.
S: Calen Bullock -- Eric Murray -- Jalen Pitre -- M.J. Stewart -- Jimmie Ward
DT: Khalil Davis -- Mario Edwards Jr. -- Folorunso Fatukasi -- Tim Settle Jr.

Special Teams -- 3 Players

LS: Jon Weeks
P: Tommy Townsend
K: Ka'imi Fairbairn
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Initial thoughts:

Quality depth up and down the roster. Good players got cut who will be on other teams playing this season.

Best positions:

WR, DE, OT, QB (obviously).

Worst positions:

DT and LB. Both should get shored up when Autry and Harris return. Outside CB depth concerns me.

But overall, not a lot of chinks in the armor going into week 1. This is the strongest roster on paper in franchise history. It’s got the stars like the 2011 Texans but also has quality depth. Super Bowl is the expectation!
 
Thorn said:
The Texans better scare up a QB from somewhere. DeMeco, from experience, ought to know you can't go into an NFL season with 2 QBs.
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I am not worried here. we should be able to sign someone to our PS. When your QB1 and QB2 get injured, you are not winning many games anways.

I am much more worried about our ability to stop the run. Our two weakest positions are interiour d-line and lb. Sure, both will be better when key players get back, but unitl then it could be ugly. I hope we take a good look at who got cut and grab another body here.

7 WRs is wild to me. I guess Sims is basically on the roster as a ST ace. Woods still being here is probably because we don‘t want to eat dead money and like his locker room presence, but I am sure they are looking at ways to get rid of him.

I am inntrigued by our HB room. Can‘t wait to see how it looks in the second half of the season. I really hope Pearce can figure it out, but I am not sure.
 
LikeMike said:
I am not worried here. we should be able to sign someone to our PS. When your QB1 and QB2 get injured, you are not winning many games anways.

I am much more worried about our ability to stop the run. Our two weakest positions are interiour d-line and lb. Sure, both will be better when key players get back, but unitl then it could be ugly. I hope we take a good look at who got cut and grab another body here.

7 WRs is wild to me. I guess Sims is basically on the roster as a ST ace. Woods still being here is probably because we don‘t want to eat dead money and like his locker room presence, but I am sure they are looking at ways to get rid of him.

I am inntrigued by our HB room. Can‘t wait to see how it looks in the second half of the season. I really hope Pearce can figure it out, but I am not sure.
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I'm personally less worried about the run stopping because Demeco is the coach. He had us as one of the best run stopping teams with a not so great cast of run stoppers. Also with Harris injured our run stopping might actually be better, it's just our coverage will be significantly worse.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
If you know who is going to get injured in the next four weeks fire away. But I don’t know many teams that go a four week stretch of an NFL season without a player needing to go to IR.
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Okay, assume all 53 on current roster are still healthy. Who goes when those two come back?
 
JB said:
Okay, assume all 53 on current roster are still healthy. Who goes when those two come back?
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Assuming it's just a position for position, I would think LB Jamal Hill could be headed towards the practice squad, and maybe Settle from the DT. But based on how heavy we are at WR and RB, you could see a player from there dropped instead. Maybe Woods or Pierce (see what I did there.)
 
cland said:
Assuming it's just a position for position, I would think LB Jamal Hill could be headed towards the practice squad, and maybe Settle from the DT. But based on how heavy we are at WR and RB, you could see a player from there dropped instead. Maybe Woods or Pierce (see what I did there.)
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one could only hope that if DP cant find a hole to run thru then he would be the first person jettisoned when someone comes back from IR. That would be my first look
 
cland said:
Assuming it's just a position for position, I would think LB Jamal Hill could be headed towards the practice squad, and maybe Settle from the DT. But based on how heavy we are at WR and RB, you could see a player from there dropped instead. Maybe Woods or Pierce (see what I did there.)
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Hill and one of the safeties.
 
Caserio had a presser today at 9am regarding the roster moves. Did anyone get a chance to listen? Haven't seen it on the team site yet.
 
JB said:
Thanks for the non- answer. I guess it's just speculation anyway
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It wasn’t a non-answer.

Speculation? Yeah but I’d say… more by-chance/luck than anything else.

As we all know… too many factors apply to a team’s weekly roster choices… to use one example…. who we’re playing as their injuries also factor into our own weekly roster choices. That’s the luck factor kicking in. Know what I mean?

Outside of our starting line up and a few backups… -everyone- is expendable on a weekly basis.
 
Sweech said:
In fairness if you're on your 3rd QB your season is functionally over.

There were some interesting names at QB cut so maybe they go for one of them or they just put Boyle on the PS.
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signed
-- Brock Purdy
 
thunderkyss said:
signed
-- Brock Purdy
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Would you not say Brock was actually the best qb on their roster?

Or do you think we're going to have a #3 who is better than CJ?

And did they win a superbowl with Brock? Last I checked their season was functionally over and no trophy was won.

Just because unicorn situations exist doesn't mean it should be treated as the norm. Should we roster build via signing street QBs and forego using CJ because Nick Foles won a superbowl?
 
We MAY have caught lightning in a bottle with Brooks, somewhat like with Foster. Two totally different styles of running backs, but I have a hunch that British will turn out to be special. A big powerful back with what looked like a bit of speed. Could we be lucky enough to have two UDFAs turn out to be special???? Sure would be nice.
 
I'm still worried about the 3rd QB. I can't believe they'd go into the season with only two QBs on the entire roster (including the practice squad). That's dangerously stupid.
 
I mentioned this in another post but this post seems more relevant. I’d like to see Caserio sign either Nate Sudfield (DET) or CJ Beathard (JAX) as QB3. Both have had time in the 49’ers system and may have played there while both Ryans and Slowick were on the staff. Both QB’s are veterans and have seen the field during regular season games. Either QB could be cheap insurance at the position.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I mentioned this in another post but this post seems more relevant. I’d like to see Caserio sign either Nate Sudfield (DET) or CJ Beathard (JAX) as QB3. Both have had time in the 49’ers system and may have played there while both Ryans and Slowick were on the staff. Both QB’s are veterans and have seen the field during regular season games. Either QB could be cheap insurance at the position.
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I'm sure they'll get a QB from somewhere for the 3rd one. This is gonna bother me until they do. LOL
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I mentioned this in another post but this post seems more relevant. I’d like to see Caserio sign either Nate Sudfield (DET) or CJ Beathard (JAX) as QB3. Both have had time in the 49’ers system and may have played there while both Ryans and Slowick were on the staff. Both QB’s are veterans and have seen the field during regular season games. Either QB could be cheap insurance at the position.
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They have just signed Kedon Slovis to the practice squad.
 
I really hope they give CJ Stroud another chance. It would be a mistake to give up on him after just one season. I know Texansballer74, Lucky, and Porky were never fans of his and probably want him gone, but even though I was one of the few on this board who wanted the Texans to draft him, I'm not just being a homer—I genuinely believe he has the potential to be a decent player with time.
 
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