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Speedy said:
Yes it is a different NFL. Especially with QB salaries as insane as they are. And starters in general just don't play in these games anymore. We probably see Stroud out there for 5 or 6 series the entire preseason. None Thursday, 1 or 2 series in game 2, maybe 3 or 4 in game 3, and none again in game 4. Starters get most of their "preseason" in with the joint practices. We've got a couple of those scheduled, and honestly, I'd rather see those on TV over the preseason games.
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Pretty sure we have only one joint practice session, with the Rams leading up to the final preseason game against them.

On a positive note you can actually watch that practice as it's open to the public.
 
Lucky said:
I wouldn't put my prized #1 draft pick on the field unless I'm playing my starting O-Line.
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Smartest decision Texans made last season was quickly pulling Stroud playing with a backup filled OL that first preseason game after his INT. It was apparent he was going to be under pressure every time he took a snap that day.

“You got to know when to fold em…”
 
Mollywhopper said:
Pretty sure we have only one joint practice session, with the Rams leading up to the final preseason game against them.

On a positive note you can actually watch that practice as it's open to the public.
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Could have sworn they had one scheduled with the Steelers at their place coming up after the HOF game and before the game with them.
 
Speedy said:
Could have sworn they had one scheduled with the Steelers at their place coming up after the HOF game and before the game with them.
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It does say here the Texans will practice in Ohio next week prior to the Steelers preseason game. But no mention of practicing with the Steelers.

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Houston Texans 2024 Training Camp Report, Practice No. 10

The Houston Texans had their final tuneup on Tuesday morning before heading to Canton, Ohio on Wednesday for Thursday night's Hall of Fame Game, against the Chicago Bears. The weather was once again typical Houston weather in late July. After a week of a benevolent Mother Nature, she's been...
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Here are my observations from the last practice the Texans will hold in Houston until August 11, as they plan to practice in Ohio the week of August 5, leading up to their second preseason game, which will be in Pittsburgh, on August 9.
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sprtsfanatic said:
Ive gotta feeling we are going to see some flashes from this young man that will remind you of his Bama days and the reason he was selected in the draft.
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What would be considered flashes? I mean it already sounds like CJ will have to throw for 6,000 yards if Nico, Diggs, Tank, Schultz and Mixon are all going to get theirs. Other than injury, how does Metchie see enough snaps?
 
Speedy said:
What would be considered flashes? I mean it already sounds like CJ will have to throw for 6,000 yards if Nico, Diggs, Tank, Schultz and Mixon are all going to get theirs. Other than injury, how does Metchie see enough snaps?
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CJ had 4100 15 games. 6000 too much but 5-5500 not impossible. Stephon, Collins and Tank get theirs with Schultz and Mixon much less. I see the last 2 getting fewer targets than many here yet being extremely effective.
 
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Speedy said:
What would be considered flashes? I mean it already sounds like CJ will have to throw for 6,000 yards if Nico, Diggs, Tank, Schultz and Mixon are all going to get theirs. Other than injury, how does Metchie see enough snaps?
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was known for creating separation on routes, to be sure handed, and to run crisp routes....if he can continue that alone will be a huge help to the offense as Im sure it will help keep the chains moving with passes underneath as Nico, Diggs, and Tank stretch the defense.
 
Lucky said:
Was Skowik actually offered a HC job? I remember he was interviewing with the Falcons, Commanders and Panthers. But I don't remember any offers.
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I believe that you are correct. But I think that the Texans offered him a substantial raise...........that along with Ryan's encouragement, he chose to stay with the Texans one more year to gain more experience and hopefully chalk up more successes in order to get more of his pick of the litter next time around. I don't believe at the time of his decision that all the HC positions were filled.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
along with Ryan's encouragement, he chose to stay with the Texans one more year to gain more experience
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Normally, I say take a head coach job because you don't know when another chance will come around. But Slowik isn't in the same boat as a David Culley. One chance in a lifetime. He will get more offers. And I don't think these were great jobs. The GMs in Carolina, Washington, and Atlanta were the primary decision makers. And the owners are hands on. There will be better opportunities, though good teams are rarely looking for head coaches.
 
Lucky said:
Normally, I say take a head coach job because you don't know when another chance will come around. But Slowik isn't in the same boat as a David Culley. One chance in a lifetime. He will get more offers. And I don't think these were great jobs. The GMs in Carolina, Washington, and Atlanta were the primary decision makers. And the owners are hands on. There will be better opportunities, though good teams are rarely looking for head coaches.
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Peters is going to be a great GM and Josh Harris has a track record of success.
 
Lucky said:
Normally, I say take a head coach job because you don't know when another chance will come around. But Slowik isn't in the same boat as a David Culley. One chance in a lifetime. He will get more offers. And I don't think these were great jobs. The GMs in Carolina, Washington, and Atlanta were the primary decision makers. And the owners are hands on. There will be better opportunities, though good teams are rarely looking for head coaches.
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Chicago could be the next prime destination. I could see Slowik being in demand there. Seeing what he has done with Stroud they would want the same out of Williams. If Da Bears fail to make the playoffs I could see them wanting the OC of a Super Bowl winning team.
 
TexansBull said:
Chicago could be the next prime destination. I could see Slowik being in demand there. Seeing what he has done with Stroud they would want the same out of Williams. If Da Bears fail to make the playoffs I could see them wanting the OC of a Super Bowl winning team.
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With CJ as his QB Slowik theoretically has as a chance at a SB ring. Which will up considerably his asking price for a HC job. I'm pretty sure the reason Slowik is still with the Texans is he considered his future of one more year with the Texans worth more than an immediate HC job where he might, or might not, get what he wants. With a SB ring (or even close to it) he'll have a better chance to get what he wants out of a head coaching deal.

And it could all have been nothing more than he didn't like the situations where he got offers. It's better to be an assistant on a good team than head honcho on a bad team.
 
Thorn said:
With CJ as his QB Slowik theoretically has as a chance at a SB ring. Which will up considerably his asking price for a HC job. I'm pretty sure the reason Slowik is still with the Texans is he considered his future of one more year with the Texans worth more than an immediate HC job where he might, or might not, get what he wants. With a SB ring (or even close to it) he'll have a better chance to get what he wants out of a head coaching deal.

And it could all have been nothing more than he didn't like the situations where he got offers. It's better to be an assistant on a good team than head honcho on a bad team.
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Except the money makes it stupid crazy to not take a HC job.

Houston was a bad situation when he got here. Demeco changed that.

San Francisco was a bad situation when he got there, Kyle changed that.

There's got to be an inkling in his mind that he can change the situation of whatever team he ultimately decides to go to.
 
thunderkyss said:
Except the money makes it stupid crazy to not take a HC job.

Houston was a bad situation when he got here. Demeco changed that.

San Francisco was a bad situation when he got there, Kyle changed that.

There's got to be an inkling in his mind that he can change the situation of whatever team he ultimately decides to go to.
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For whatever reason(s) he chose to stay, I doubt we'll be having this conversation next year.
 
I’m hoping he stays but if I were a gambling man. I’m putting my money on him bouncing for an HC NFL gig. Dude is really smart and he knows the game. The last interview I seen and posted on here, dude sounds like a head coach.
 
Mollywhopper said:
We will, but it'll just be from the other side of the same coin, talking about why he left rather than why he stayed..
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DeMeco leave?
Why?
If we make a SB this year he ain't going anywhere.
Even if we make it to the AAFC game and narrowly lose I still think he stays. Hell, I really can't see any scenario where he would want to leave while we have CJ and NC
 
Thorn said:
With CJ as his QB Slowik theoretically has as a chance at a SB ring. Which will up considerably his asking price for a HC job. I'm pretty sure the reason Slowik is still with the Texans is he considered his future of one more year with the Texans worth more than an immediate HC job where he might, or might not, get what he wants. With a SB ring (or even close to it) he'll have a better chance to get what he wants out of a head coaching deal.

And it could all have been nothing more than he didn't like the situations where he got offers. It's better to be an assistant on a good team than head honcho on a bad team.
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Agreed. He can up his asking price and have more say in building the team. Culley didn’t even have a say in the staff he got to put together. Much less roster/draft.

DeMeco however…
 
Thorn said:
For whatever reason(s) he chose to stay, I doubt we'll be having this conversation next year.
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Did he?

I don't think it was his choice. I don't think he was at the top of anyone's list. At most he earned a spot on the list for an open minded owner to consider. If he was offered a job, he might have taken it. Who knows?

If the offense repeats last year's performance I'm sure he'll be at the top of several lists, & interviews will be more about finding a fit than getting to know you kind of thing.
 
Slowik & Jerrod Johnson both got new contracts this year with what was reported as substantial raises. I suspect Ryans & the Texans are looking to replace Slowik with Johnson when & if he leaves.

Slowik interviewed with the Commanders, Falcons, Titans, Seahawks, and Panthers & Johnson had 2 interviews with the Saints for OC during the offseason. I don't see any chance of keeping them both if the Texans do what we all want & expect them to do.

Hopefully other teams poaching our assistant coaches is going to become par for the course. It just means the Texans are successful. So while I don't like losing good people it is still a hell of a lot better than when teams did not want anything or anyone from the Texans.
 
Regarding the poaching of coaches my hottest Texans take is that I still kinda wish we had hired Steichen. Offensive coaches get hired away. The Chiefs secret sauce besides Mahomes is they have an offensive head coach and an excellent defensive coordinator who isn't getting hired away anytime soon. As long as Ryans is here we're going to be forced into hiring re-tread failed OC's and head coaches or unproven young bucks. Both Steichen and Demeco did an excellent job year 1 but we have that issue looming on the horizon and the Colts don't.
 
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Texans starters to play in 2nd preseason game

The Houston Texans starters will play in their second preseason game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, coach DeMeco Ryans said Monday.
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"I truly believe that a guy needs to get reps in a preseason game. We don't go to the ground as you see the way we practice. We try to keep guys up and be as safe as possible in practice. I think everybody needs the opportunity to go to the ground a couple of times in the game then get up and dust yourself off and just know you're good," he said. "So you just have to go through and play live reps in football before live action comes in September. So you'll see our [starters] go out and get reps this week versus Pittsburgh."
 
thunderkyss said:
Except the money makes it stupid crazy to not take a HC job.

Houston was a bad situation when he got here. Demeco changed that.

San Francisco was a bad situation when he got there, Kyle changed that.

There's got to be an inkling in his mind that he can change the situation of whatever team he ultimately decides to go to.
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Well he got a fat raise to stay here, so the crazy money isn't quite as crazy.

Also you'll make more money if you wait for a situation you can be successful at than just jumping on the first offer you get that you'll be lucky to get to year 2 in and potentially damage your reputation at as well.
 
It's also not just Slowik that's been taking the approach of not just immediately leaving a great situation to go to the first opportunity that pops up.

Demeco did it.

Ben Johnson's still doing it.

 
Khelar said:
Regarding the poaching of coaches my hottest Texans take is that I still kinda wish we had hired Steichen. Offensive coaches get hired away. The Chiefs secret sauce besides Mahomes is they have an offensive head coach and an excellent defensive coordinator who isn't getting hired away anytime soon. As long as Ryans is here we're going to be forced into hiring re-tread failed OC's and head coaches or unproven young bucks. Both Steichen and Demeco did an excellent job year 1 but we have that issue looming on the horizon and the Colts don't.
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I like Steichen and think he's a great coach, but Demeco isn't just a great DC he is a born leader of men. I'm not sure Steichen digs us out of the trenches we were in as quickly and as thoroughly as Demeco has. Demeco adds a whole other dynamic far beyond just the x's and o's of play calling (which he's also excellent at). We're so lucky and blessed to have him.

Naturally we'll have to deal with churning through offensive coordinators, but when you've got a franchise QB it makes that task a whole lot easier.

There's also been dynasties who have used great QB + great defensive head coach to years of league dominance and success.
 
Sweech said:
I like Steichen and think he's a great coach, but Demeco isn't just a great DC he is a born leader of men. I'm not sure Steichen digs us out of the trenches we were in as quickly and as thoroughly as Demeco has. Demeco adds a whole other dynamic far beyond just the x's and o's of play calling (which he's also excellent at). We're so lucky and blessed to have him.

Naturally we'll have to deal with churning through offensive coordinators, but when you've got a franchise QB it makes that task a whole lot easier.

There's also been dynasties who have used great QB + great defensive head coach to years of league dominance and success.
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Some 6th round pick and a guy in a hoodie.
 
Here are just some of the great defensive head coaches.

Don Shula – 347 lifetime wins
Bill Belichick – 333 lifetime wins
Tom Landry – 270 lifetime wins

Of course you can find as many offensive greats. I kind of like the idea that we are not locked into any one offense & can change with the times. Sort of like the Ravens (who have a special teams coach as HC). This may be just a reaction to O'Brien and his terrible offense for all those years but I am actually glad that we got a defensive head coach.
 
Sweech said:
I like Steichen and think he's a great coach, but Demeco isn't just a great DC he is a born leader of men. I'm not sure Steichen digs us out of the trenches we were in as quickly and as thoroughly as Demeco has. Demeco adds a whole other dynamic far beyond just the x's and o's of play calling (which he's also excellent at). We're so lucky and blessed to have him.

Naturally we'll have to deal with churning through offensive coordinators, but when you've got a franchise QB it makes that task a whole lot easier.

There's also been dynasties who have used great QB + great defensive head coach to years of league dominance and success.
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Post is true, until the QB gets to expensive in yr 7 or so.
 
Sweech said:
I like Steichen and think he's a great coach, but Demeco isn't just a great DC he is a born leader of men. I'm not sure Steichen digs us out of the trenches we were in as quickly and as thoroughly as Demeco has. Demeco adds a whole other dynamic far beyond just the x's and o's of play calling (which he's also excellent at). We're so lucky and blessed to have him.

Naturally we'll have to deal with churning through offensive coordinators, but when you've got a franchise QB it makes that task a whole lot easier.

There's also been dynasties who have used great QB + great defensive head coach to years of league dominance and success.
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The good news is there seems to be a good supply of up and coming offensive coaches from the Shannahan tree.
 
DocBar said:
The good news is there seems to be a good supply of up and coming offensive coaches from the Shannahan tree.
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If I could choose a "fly on the wall" moment, getting a peak at Caserio/Demeco's post-Slowik plans would be high on my list. Ideally everyone is behind Jerrod Johnson as the next OC, when it becomes necessary. I've said before I wish Klint Kubiak hadn't taken the Saints job...but that's purely nepotism, because all I know about him is his last name. There's also Klay Kubiak the 49ers passing game specialist, but the fact that the 49ers don't have an OC is a pretty interesting angle... My guess is that if someone approached Klay he would get promoted to the OC spot.

TL;DR: future OC rambing
 
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