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Brisco_County

Apples and roadmaps
If I live to be 150, I’ll never understand the Mills love around these parts. He wouldn’t start on 31 other teams, but over here he has unlimited potential just waiting to be tapped. I’m beginning to think he has compromising photos of some of you. Y’all get a room or something, but leave me out of that threesome. He stinks and needs to be jettisoned into the universe so he can become a salesman or the long neck man at the traveling circus.

I also don’t get the jimmy G bandwagon. We want an oft-injured game manager whose story has been written in terms of ceiling? Why? He will want to be the unquestioned starter here. So this is likely in lieu of a young dynamic playmaker at QB at 1.2. At this stage of his career, he still wants to be “the guy”. He isn’t coming here to be an aging vet caretaker/unofficial QB coach. He has his own ego he is trying to massage. It’s totally nonsensical to me.

Bah humbug! And get off my lawn lol 😂
It's because Mills occasionally displayed elite ability during his rookie season. He finished that season strong, then regressed under an OC who hasn't had much success in the league. But we can't unsee what we saw in 2021.

(99) Davis Mills | 2021 Rookie Highlights - YouTube

However, I think we've run out of runway with developing him under a better OC. We should take a QB and keep Mills as a backup while expecting him to improve under better coaching.

And I'm not worried about who has compromising photos of me. Those have already been out there for some time.
 
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Brisco_County

Apples and roadmaps
Kafka does not inspire me or seem like a leader when I listen to him. I am out on him and Payton, my order is now:
Ryans, Gannon, Steichel

So watching the game this weekend for sure! I feel the D guys have the "it" factor
In my opinion it's a flawed process to choose a head coach based only on their success as a coordinator. It should be one criterion, but they also need a personality that gets inside a player's head along with a tendency to make good decisions. The latter is mainly what O'Brien lacked, along with not using his personality correctly. As much as his personality got old, it was a desirable trait in a head coach if applied correctly. But using it to crush a player's confidence was probably not a winning strategy.

I think DeMeco has the most potential based on what other players say. I'd prefer an offensive coach so we don't rely on an OC carousel, but if a candidate has an X factor, you take him.
 
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Texansphan

Football connoisseur
The Giants did not exercise his 5th year option. I believe they could franchise tag him, but isn't he otherwise a free agent?
Yeah - that's why I wonder what he'll cost.
People wouldn't mind having him here until they find out he'll cost us at least #2. He might actually be a decent option with our #2 but many will be dubious about using it on DJ.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
To completely ignore his very good moments in a game meant you closed your eyes or preferred not to acknowledge those plays. But to each their own.
@Brisco_County said "elite". Elite should be reserved for the elite. I have not seen elite play from Davis Mills at any point in his professional career. He has had a handful of games where his play was satisfactory. Not nearly enough for my liking.
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
Likewise, I don't understand the love for Tiny Tim.

Actually, I think it is more likely that it isn't love for Davis Mills, but more of a not being sold on the QB's in the draft this year. I think it is more likely that the people wanting to run it back with Mills would rather wait to get their franchise QB in 2024, when a real franchise QB will be available.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. That is until you buy your neighbor's property and realize that your grass was actually greener all along. This notion that the 24 class is leagues better is bunk. It could be. And it may not be. A bunch of Kreskin's are running around pretending they know the future. A new coach worth a damn isn't going to agree to a first year tank to even get into position to draft one of these "amazing no-fail" QB's that seem to be all the rage around here.

You take your best swing when you are standing in the batter's box and have a shot. I am not waiting around in the on-deck circle hoping with two outs hoping the guy in front of me gets on base. That's ludicrous and a plan to fail.
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
@Brisco_County said "elite". Elite should be reserved for the elite. I have not seen elite play from Davis Mills at any point in his professional career. He has had a handful of games where his play was satisfactory. Not nearly enough for my liking.
Yup. He has had some really good (I wouldn't say elite) individual plays. I've never seen him play an elite game. Best I'll go is a "good" game, and that's grading on a curve, and it's been few and far between. The real stat that matters is the W-L record, and yes I know it's not all on the QB, but an elite QB lifts all the boats in the harbor and makes the whole better than the individual parts. He's not inspiring, so that's a zero. He doesn't make any plays off-schedule, so that's a zero. He's not a "field-general" take charge type. That's a zero. He doesn't have elite level physical tools, so that's a zero.

For the love of God, what the hell do you people see in this guy? I feel like some of us are like those hostages that start to relate to their captors.

I don't want him on the team if we draft a guy at 1.2. We need a guy in here that can mentor the new QB, not infect him with his suckiness. We don't need that level of suckitude rubbing off on the new guy. That **** can be transmitted.
 

Texansphan

Football connoisseur
@Brisco_County said "elite". Elite should be reserved for the elite. I have not seen elite play from Davis Mills at any point in his professional career. He has had a handful of games where his play was satisfactory. Not nearly enough for my liking.
Agree. Brief moments of decent play are not enough. Sure, it shows what he is capable of, but until this team is dramatically upgraded, he won't show it often enough.
Another question that has to be answered is do we think he can be effective enough in big games? The answer is, from what we have seen, not likely.
 

Texian

Hall of Fame
@Brisco_County said "elite". Elite should be reserved for the elite. I have not seen elite play from Davis Mills at any point in his professional career. He has had a handful of games where his play was satisfactory. Not nearly enough for my liking.
His college coach said on a national TV draft show that he was somewhat accurate. That's exactly who he is. And as you have pointed out before, the reason Mills came out early is he probably would not have been the starter if he had stayed.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Th thing about DeMeco is that in a sense he's kinda a favorite son though certainly not the same as the real favorite son who coached here once, one G. Kubiack.
The Texans drafted him, he lived in our community and played here several years and he married at true favorite daughter as wife Jamil is native Houstonian.
So there's a pretty high level of familiarity and comfort with him, and genuine fondness for DeMeco while the other candidates are basically all strangers.
Now whether or not all of this makes Demeco a better Houston Texans HC candidate than the others, well probably not necessarily.
This would be very low on my list of reasons to hire Demeco. Therefore I'm pretty sure they will be very high on why Cal will hire Demeco.

I like Gannon and Kalfka over Demeco. Although I think Demeco is very good at what he does. The HC candidate that can put together the best staff is who I want as the next HC. Whether that be Demeco or not. I was a no to Demeco when I read that Lynn was his proposed OC. Now if LaFluer or one of Kubiak's kids become OC under Demeco then I can quickly get on board the Demeco train.
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
This would be very low on my list of reasons to hire Demeco. Therefore I'm pretty sure they will be very high on why Cal will hire Demeco.

I like Gannon and Kalfka over Demeco. Although I think Demeco is very good at what he does. The HC candidate that can put together the best staff is who I want as the next HC. Whether that be Demeco or not. I was a no to Demeco when I read that Lynn was his proposed OC. Now if LaFluer or one of Kubiak's kids become OC under Demeco then I can quickly get on board the Demeco train.
Staff come and go. If guys are good, they are plucked away anyway. If they prove to be less than desirable, they can be replaced. The HC is the guy that needs to be the rock and provide the stability and an overarching vision for the team and he's the guy you want for a decade. That's the far more important factor for me. The staff has some importance and if two guys are very close, I lean toward the one bringing the more impressive asst coaches, but it's not 1A with a star for me like it is with you.
 

wildroot

Rookie
Yep. Just like Nick presented Gannon last year. Cal maybe said "Okay", but the caveat was keeping Lovie. Gannon bailed
I guess you were in the room?

I've never heard Lovie, Nick or Cal say that they told Gannon that they wanted to keep Lovie and at that point Gannon headed for the door.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
So, why sign Garoppolo in the first place? What is trying to be accomplished in your mind by signing him?
Giving a 2024 drafted QB a mentor that knows Demeco/LaFluer's offense like the back of his hand. As a plus I think if Jimmy G stays healthy and Caserio nails this draft/FA period the Texans will be a much improved team.

In short, I think signing Jimmy G would give the QB drafted in 2024 his best chance to succeed.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I guess you were in the room?

I've never heard Lovie, Nick or Cal say that they told Gannon that they wanted to keep Lovie and at that point Gannon headed for the door.
It was reported at the Sr. Bowl that Gannon would be the hire.

The Texans would be in a much better place if Cal had let Caserio hire Gannon to begin with instead of Cal hiring Lovie because of accusations of racism by the media. Which the media did anyway after Lovie did a bad job of coaching last yr and Lovie had to be fired.

Sad thing is Caserio never got to hire his guy throughout this whole process.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
I can only go by what I've read. Same as you.
I have no idea who will be on any staff. Anything I've read is just internet speculation without basis. That's why preferring one candidate over another based upon that information doesn't make sense.
 

cuppacoffee

Resident Grouch
Yup. He has had some really good (I wouldn't say elite) individual plays. I've never seen him play an elite game. Best I'll go is a "good" game, and that's grading on a curve, and it's been few and far between. The real stat that matters is the W-L record, and yes I know it's not all on the QB, but an elite QB lifts all the boats in the harbor and makes the whole better than the individual parts. He's not inspiring, so that's a zero. He doesn't make any plays off-schedule, so that's a zero. He's not a "field-general" take charge type. That's a zero. He doesn't have elite level physical tools, so that's a zero.

For the love of God, what the hell do you people see in this guy? I feel like some of us are like those hostages that start to relate to their captors.

I don't want him on the team if we draft a guy at 1.2. We need a guy in here that can mentor the new QB, not infect him with his suckiness. We don't need that level of suckitude rubbing off on the new guy. That **** can be transmitted.

And I don't want to draft a QB at 1.2

Actually QB is way down on my list of wants in this draft.

Your opinions are noted, but not agreed with by all on this site.

Only hostage I see here is Mills. He seems trapped in your psyche.

:coffee:
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Then no. I'm not spending good $$$ on a mediocre QB than I can get much cheaper. That money should be spent on young vet starters.
If you told me that Demeco could bring in Omenihu/Ward/Al Shaiir/Ridgeway/Ebukan then I'm on board. Heck give me 3 of those guys.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
But you don't want him to succeed much
If he stays healthy and performs well then that's great. If he gets hurt and the Texans get a high draft pick and don't have to trade up to get a franchise QB, even better. It's a win-win.
 

JB

Innocent Bystander
Contributor's Club
If he stays healthy and performs well then that's great. If he gets hurt and the Texans get a high draft pick and don't have to trade up to get a franchise QB, even better. It's a win-win.
So who do you think may be the franchise QB in the 2025 draft and do you really expect them to draft a QB high in 2024 & 2025?
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
It's because Mills occasionally displayed elite ability during his rookie season. He finished that season strong, then regressed under an OC who hasn't had much success in the league. But we can't unsee what we saw in 2021.

(99) Davis Mills | 2021 Rookie Highlights - YouTube

However, I think we've run out of runway with developing him under a better OC. We should take a QB and keep Mills as a backup while expecting him to improve under better coaching.

And I'm not worried about who has compromising photos of me. Those have already been out there for some time.
Note to myself " go ahead and sell the compromising pictures of Briscoe County on eBay as he says that he is not going to pay me for black mail."

Seriously, I agree on Mills backup for future who might become better but I don't want to risk another season not developing QB starter.

Forcing him into starter role can cause others to regress or be injured.
 
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