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Fire Lovie Smith!

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So I'm going to go ahead and get out in front of this just in case Cal wakes up Monday morning with a clear head and an epiphany to do a complete house cleaning and fires Caserio, Lovie and the coaching staff.

So, if Ross does end up firing Mike McDaniel so he can hire Harbaugh, Cal should hold his powder dry until that deed is done. If he can make a deal with McDaniel he should do it. I'm a fan of the WCO and ZBS and so is McDaniel.

If he can't, then hire Wes Phillips, Bum and Wade's boy. And of course, hire Eliot Wolf as the GM. I like those bloodlines and the football DNA for those two. At least the fan base would be excited to cheer for Bum and Wade's boy. Cal will have the luxury of waiting this out because Minnesota is in the playoffs.
 
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Again, my question is what difference does it make if McDaniels wins or loses?

if Ross wants to bring in Harbaugh who cares if McDaniels wins the last game?
I'll have to answer your question with another question, can Ross persuade Harbaugh to do it? If not, McDaniel is likely staying a Dolphin, win or lose. This is all about Harbaugh and Ross. Just a reminder, Miami had to forfeit their 2023 #1 pick because of Ross's tenacity.
 

zshawn10

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• The big question in Houston is whether GM Nick Caserio will exit this season with the same level of power he’s had to potentially run a third coaching search in three years. There are a lot of internal questions on Lovie Smith’s viability as a head coach going into 2023, though Smith has made his case to owner Cal McNair, and with the team playing hard down the stretch. Still, I’d say the likelihood is he’d be gone, with Gannon, the Eagles’ DC, and Ryans, the Niners’ DC and former Texans captain, as top candidates to take his spot. Flores, given his relationship with Caserio, would be another name to watch.
 

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Smith opened each team meeting in camp with a slide proclaiming the Texans would be 2022 World Champs. But their performance, even for a young team searching for a franchise quarterback, has been a disappointment. The roster is young and there is little high-end talent. But the hope had been to build the right way.

Sources say frustration has mounted in the locker room and elsewhere in the building over many aspects of Smith's program, including overall operational struggles. It has spilled to their best players, such as receiver Brandin Cooks being stripped of the captaincy after trying and failing to get himself traded before November's deadline.

General manager Nick Caserio hired both Culley and Smith (@Rudyc281 ) while undertaking a major rebuilding operation -- one that now has the Texans set up well in virtually every area except for instability at head coach.

If the Texans job does open, the team could revisit candidates they interviewed a year ago, such as Eagles defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon. Former Texans great and now 49ers defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans should also get a long look. AndHouston figures to also look hard at offensive-mindedcoaches to groom their future at QB.
 

thunderkyss

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I'll have to answer your question with another question, can Ross persuade Harbaugh to do it? If not, McDaniel is likely staying a Dolphin, win or lose. This is all about Harbaugh and Ross. Just a reminder, Miami had to forfeit their 2023 #1 pick because of Ross's tenacity.
Again, doesn’t matter if they win or lose week 18


Rumor only, but I am seeing smoke that if the Fins lose to the Jets this week, Mike McDaniel is on the chopping block.
clickbait. If they want Harbaugh winning in week 18 should be of no never mind.
 

thunderkyss

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Lovie Smith II. another retread, has been that sucked with the Vikes, is ultra-conservative, that coaches the defense, and thinks 3 yards and a cloud of dust out of the single wing offense is innovative? You want that guy? No thanks. We already have him. What's the point of that move? 100% nonsensical.
Let’s judge the man on his own merits & not group people due to “similarities” they may/may not share
 
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badboy

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Again, my question is what difference does it make if McDaniels wins or loses?

if Ross wants to bring in Harbaugh who cares if McDaniels wins the last game?
If Ross brings in Harbaugh it does not Matter win or lose. If Harbaugh is not on board then mcdaniels would definitely do better with a W. Might not save him but still better than loss.
 

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And that is why, this last game is so damn important not only to Lovie (coming or going) but the future success of Texans franchise.
And they are making a big assumption that these teams would have drafted any differently. None of these teams knew how any of their draft choices were going to turn out, so to assume they would have taken a different player is pure guess work.
 
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Lovie is gone and not just for the season record. @CloakNNNdagger and I spoke a while back and he told me Lovie is not a receptive person.
That Aaron Wilson article is extremely detailed and highlights the mutual interest remaining between the Texans and Gannon.

A couple important pieces include the mentioning of Gannon’s relationships with former Colts HC Frank Reich(possible OC?) and former Vikings HC Mike Zimmer(possible DC?).

The tone of the article and the information gathered certainly points towards the Texans strongly leaning towards cutting ties with Lovie.
 

zshawn10

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Lovie is gone and not just for the season record. @CloakNNNdagger and I spoke a while back and he told me Lovie is not a receptive person.
“Lovie’s job not safe,” a source said. “This has been a terrible season, but that’s not all that this is about.”

Among the concerns expressed by sources about Smith’s management style: not being receptive to suggestions and feedback regarding strategy, scheme, practice routines and the use of analytics and other data.

Smith, 64, has been characterized as an old-school coach who has been as advertised in terms of applying a hard-nosed and hard-working approach to the game.


The myriad of issues with the Texans have not involved a lack of buy-in from players, per multiple sources. The effort is regarded as being consistently strong, including solid performances in five one-score defeats that includes recent losses to the Dallas Cowboys and Kansas City Chiefs. However, the Texans were steamrolled 31-3 by the Jacksonville Jaguars last Sunday and were not competitive on either side of the football as the offense struggled mightily to run or pass and the tackling was shoddy on defense. It’s the lack of consistency and execution along with a roster that still has obvious holes, including the all-important quarterback position expected to be addressed in the draft and/or free agency.
 

beerlover

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And they are making a big assumption that these teams would have drafted any differently. None of these teams knew how any of their draft choices were going to turn out, so to assume they would have taken a different player is pure guess work.
That’s what we do. All pretty clear #1’s. Lost in the loser shuffle.
 

zshawn10

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From the article…

“Gannon could possibly assemble an experienced staff with his connections to former Colts coach Frank Reich and Minnesota Vikings coach Mike Zimmer and Eagles quarterbacks coach Brian Johnson.

Gannon “knocked it out of the park” and “crushed” his meetings with NFL teams, impressing them with his knowledge, creativity, detailed plans about strategy and staff and his passion for the game, according to league sources.”
 

IDEXAN

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If he can't, then hire Wes Phillips, Bum and Wade's boy. And of course, hire Eliot Wolf as the GM. I like those bloodlines and the football DNA for those two. At least the fan base would be excited to cheer for Bum and Wade's boy. Cal will have the luxury of waiting this out because Minnesota is in the playoffs.
Bum and his son Wade fathered a child together, I dunno but wouldn't that be some kind of biological precedent Texian ?
Dude you are a wealth of info !
 

banned1976

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And they are making a big assumption that these teams would have drafted any differently. None of these teams knew how any of their draft choices were going to turn out, so to assume they would have taken a different player is pure guess work.
Last year, would the Texans have drafted Hutchison over Stingley if they had the #1 pick? Being that they are the Texans, they probably still would have drafted the gimpy cornerback bECauSe hE wAS thE BeST aThelete In tHE drAFT...when healthy. And a little location on Kirby is where all dumb things go to die.
 

TexansBull

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My question is has Hannah already made up Cal's mind on how the Texans move forward?
Hannah is telling Cal that because he insisted on keeping Lovie he missed out on a better HC and the games show how bad the coaching is. Then that HC influenced the draft and passed on Sauce for Stingley.

She is saying go a back to the HC they passed on which was recommended by Caserio. That way if Gannon doesn’t work out they fire them all and start over.

Cal meanwhile:

 

IDEXAN

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DeMeco also sued the NFL. Yet, he still has a job in the NFL. Don't see this as an issue to DeMeco taking a big $$$ HC job in Houston.
My dream coaching scenario would be for Demeco to come back to Houston as our HC and Kubiack to be hired as his OC.
Another scenario I liked was for Mike Leach to be hired as our HC, which is something else that is obviously not happening either.
Well we can dream.
 
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