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Will Anderson Edge Alabama #1?

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leebigeztx said:
Talking about history repeating itself. Remember when they had their best stretch run of defense and how the team fared? How far did the Texans go when Jj and all them guys were in their prime. Your defense doesn't have to be great if your qb is. One thing we do know is that in the last 15 years, we've seen teams get to the superbowl with ok defenses more than just ok qb play.
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Agreed, there's no QB in this draft that fits your description. IMHO So the BPA should be the pick and that's either Carter or Anderson. IMHO
 
JB said:
I want no part of Anderson in the top 5. I'd take Murphy or Carter after a trade down before Anderson
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I want to see how Anderson at the combine before I can go there. Anderson was great last yr and really good this yr.
 
steelbtexan said:
I want to see how Anderson at the combine before I can go there. Anderson was great last yr and really good this yr.
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Lucky said:
Anderson is the SEC career leader in sacks and TFL. And he did it in 3 seasons, the first being the shortened 2020 season.
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From what I've seen of Anderson when I've watched, he does not have the motor you want from a top pick. He gets downright lazy when the play goes away from him. He hasn't been great this year any more than Carter has imo
 
Lucky said:
Nolan Smith of Georgia and BJ Ojulari from LSU are a couple of edge rushers than could go in the 1st round.
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You forgot to mention Jared Verse...

Still that doesn't say a lot for the SEC does it? Anderson and 3 others that may go in the first round? I like Anderson, I just don't think he's the #1 non-qb in the draft
 
Lucky said:
Jared Verse plays for Florida State (ACC). But, he's also a very good prospect.

I don't think it's even close who's the top non-QB in this draft. Anderson is a 7 on the scale of 1-8. The next guys are like in the 6.3s
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yeah I keep forgetting that FSU is not in the SEC. Time will tell. 247 sports has his NFL comparison as Dante Fowler- I wouldn't draft that at #1. He may be the best edge rusher in the class, but that doesn't mean #1 worthy

edit: maybe his motor wasn't running all that great due to Alabama's down year? I read how great a prospect he is, I just didn't see it this year like I did last year
 
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Lucky said:
Anderson is the SEC career leader in sacks and TFL. And he did it in 3 seasons, the first being the shortened 2020 season.
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Anderson is not that big, listed at like 240-45 lbs., so who's his comparable: Demarcus Ware, Von Miller, who ?
 
IDEXAN said:
Anderson is not that big, listed at like 240-45 lbs., so who's his comparable: Demarcus Ware, Von Miller, who ?
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Anderson does not play small on the field. Yes, he can get to and turn the corner as an edge rusher. But that's only part of his game. It's Anderson's violent hands that allow him to shed and seperate from blockers that sets him apart. He also plays with great lean, balance, and lateral agility. The type of player teams must scheme for. What scouts projected a guy like Travon Walker might do, Anderson is already doing. A dawg who would bring that type of mentality into your locker room. Instantly the best player on your defense, if not your team.
 
Lucky said:
Anderson does not play small on the field. Yes, he can get to and turn the corner as an edge rusher. But that's only part of his game. It's Anderson's violent hands that allow him to shed and seperate from blockers that sets him apart. He also plays with great lean, balance, and lateral agility. The type of player teams must scheme for. What scouts projected a guy like Travon Walker might do, Anderson is already doing. A dawg who would bring that type of mentality into your locker room. Instantly the best player on your defense, if not your team.
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When he wants to
 
Hottoddie said:
Who does this young man remind y'all of?

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Tuli Tuipulotu, EDGE, USC | NFL Draft Scouting Report

USC EDGE Tuli Tuipulotu was the 2022 Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. And that same 2022 tape could elevate his 2023 NFL Draft scouting report.
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Reminds me a lot of David Pollack, former Georgia Bulldog and Cincinnati Bengal edge. High motor + good athleticism. Pollack's career was cut short due to a neck injury.
 
Lucky said:
Reminds me a lot of David Pollack, former Georgia Bulldog and Cincinnati Bengal edge. High motor + good athleticism. Pollack's career was cut short due to a neck injury.
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I never really watched Pollack play, so I can't say. But, I was thinking his profile reminded me a lot of JJ.
 
Today I noticed Detroit is ranked #6 in offensive scoring, but have a 5-7 record. So the problem has to be defense. And I just noticed that the Lions are 27th in sacks with only 22.

The Chicago Bears are dead last in sacks with only 16.

I wonder if there could be a mini bidding war to trade up to #1 to get Anderson, between these two teams?

The Lions have two second round picks.

If both teams want Anderson, a second in '23 and a first in '24 may not be too much to ask. Since the Lions second, second rounder is at the bottom of the round, I'd even try to get that pick thrown in.
 
Number19 said:
I believe Hottodie was saying Tuli Tuipulotu reminded him of Watt. It will be interesting to compare his measurables, from the combine, with Watt's.
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Was he saying Tuipulotu or Pollack reminded him of Watt? Either way Watt is a lot bigger
 
Hottoddie said:
Lucky said the description of Tuipulotu reminded him of Pollack. I said the description of Tuipulotu reminded me of Watt. Tuipulotu is listed at 6'4" 290 lbs. Watt is listed at 6'5" 288 lbs.
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The listing I saw had Tuipulotu at 6'3" 265 lbs.
 
Alabama junior linebacker Will Anderson wins Lott Trophy
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4685724/will-anderson-jr
WILL ANDERSON JR. of Alabama won the Lott IMPACT Trophy on Sunday night as the college defensive player having the biggest influence on his team.
The junior outside linebacker earned the honor a day after graduating. It's the fourth trophy Anderson picked up in a week. His haul includes the Nagurski, Lombardi and Bednarik awards.
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Obviously the professionals see more in this guy than I do. I'm going to have to rethink things and watch more film.[/quote]
 
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JB said:
From what I've seen of Anderson when I've watched, he does not have the motor you want from a top pick. He gets downright lazy when the play goes away from him. He hasn't been great this year any more than Carter has imo
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Isn't that what they said about Thibodeaux?
They don't get that luxury so much in the big time.
 
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Hottoddie said:
Who does this young man remind y'all of?

www.profootballnetwork.com

Tuli Tuipulotu, EDGE, USC | NFL Draft Scouting Report

USC EDGE Tuli Tuipulotu was the 2022 Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. And that same 2022 tape could elevate his 2023 NFL Draft scouting report.
www.profootballnetwork.com www.profootballnetwork.com
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Good thing I read through all the posts. Was about to start a thread about this guy. High motor guys always get underrated in the early boards. I used to get excited about seeing someone like Tuli projected in the 2nd round on early boards, but finally realized the idiots ranking them assume high motor = poor athleticism. JJ, Donald and Kuechly are a few that come to mind that were 2nd round or later projections in January. If he runs a 4.8, jumps 36", and puts up 30+ reps all of a sudden he will be a top 10 guy. Right now I would take Tuli over Anderson at #1.
 
gs27 said:
Good thing I read through all the posts. Was about to start a thread about this guy. High motor guys always get underrated in the early boards. I used to get excited about seeing someone like Tuli projected in the 2nd round on early boards, but finally realized the idiots ranking them assume high motor = poor athleticism. JJ, Donald and Kuechly are a few that come to mind that were 2nd round or later projections in January. If he runs a 4.8, jumps 36", and puts up 30+ reps all of a sudden he will be a top 10 guy. Right now I would take Tuli over Anderson at #1.
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Well then Carter at 1-1 and Tuli at 2-32 seems like great value to me.
 
steelbtexan said:
Well then Carter at 1-1 and Tuli at 2-32 seems like great value to me.
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Absolutely, only my point is Tuli is only a 2nd round prospect now because assumption is high motor = low athleticism. After combine that will likely change. He looks pretty damn explosive and strong to me.
 
I was able to run a mock where Detroit moved up to our spot for Will and we got the house. One thing I noticed, after Bijan and Gibbs, RB's fell, so can wait a bit and still get a good one. If slick Nick can fill this many holes, I will be happy. It also includes a 2024 1st from Detroit

Translated to:
5. Bryce Young, QB, Alabama
13. Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson
18. Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas
32. Michael Mayer, TE, ND
48. Sedrick Van Pran, OC, Georgia
60. Andre Carter II, Edge, Army (assuming they let this class play)
64. Marvin Mims WR, OK (burner)
74. J'ayir Brown, S Penn State
100. Mazi Smith, DT, MI (Huge and athletic dude)
112. Jack Cambell, LB, Iowa (tackling machine)
164. Satuoa Laumea, OG, UT (I ignored guard too long, so throwing him in)
187. Benjamin Yurosek TE, Stanford (Nice traits)
190. Zakhir Franklin WR, UTSA
192. Hunter Luepke, RB, ND State (Just so we can push the old guy off the roster)
 
JB said:
You think Thibodeaux is having a great year? Showing a high motor?
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He's having a decent year. JJ Watt had a similar first season - hitting his stride by the end.
Do you think any team is gonna let a rookie lollygag out on the field? Or coaches?
 
Lucky said:
Anderson does not play small on the field. Yes, he can get to and turn the corner as an edge rusher. But that's only part of his game. It's Anderson's violent hands that allow him to shed and seperate from blockers that sets him apart. He also plays with great lean, balance, and lateral agility. The type of player teams must scheme for. What scouts projected a guy like Travon Walker might do, Anderson is already doing. A dawg who would bring that type of mentality into your locker room. Instantly the best player on your defense, if not your team.
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I think Anderson is getting same sizzle as Chase Young coming to Washington.
 
gs27 said:
Good thing I read through all the posts. Was about to start a thread about this guy. High motor guys always get underrated in the early boards. I used to get excited about seeing someone like Tuli projected in the 2nd round on early boards, but finally realized the idiots ranking them assume high motor = poor athleticism. JJ, Donald and Kuechly are a few that come to mind that were 2nd round or later projections in January. If he runs a 4.8, jumps 36", and puts up 30+ reps all of a sudden he will be a top 10 guy. Right now I would take Tuli over Anderson at #1.
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Tyree Wilson was my guy until I researched Tuli.
 
Number19 said:
Today I noticed Detroit is ranked #6 in offensive scoring, but have a 5-7 record. So the problem has to be defense. And I just noticed that the Lions are 27th in sacks with only 22.

The Chicago Bears are dead last in sacks with only 16.

I wonder if there could be a mini bidding war to trade up to #1 to get Anderson, between these two teams?

The Lions have two second round picks.

If both teams want Anderson, a second in '23 and a first in '24 may not be too much to ask. Since the Lions second, second rounder is at the bottom of the round, I'd even try to get that pick thrown in.
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Ranking Detroit Lions top five NFL offseason needs - Sports Illustrated Detroit Lions News, Analysis and More

Fixing defense should be Lions' focus in offseason.
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From a Lions fan podcast:
A: I think you basically nailed it, especially at the top. As a longtime NFL talent evaluator once told me, there are two types of teams in this league -- those with a quarterback, and those looking for one. I know some people think Jared Goff is good enough to get by with, but I still think the Lions fall into the latter bucket. Goff is fine at his best. Give that man a clean pocket and a lot of weapons, and he can cook. But he hasn’t been anything more than that in a long time, and as anyone actually watching the Lions can attest, you don’t always have a clean pocket in this league, and you certainly don’t always have all your weapons on the field.
A good quarterback is essential to achieving consistency, because they can cover for so much else going awry. Wind up with a quarterback like Goff, who is dependent on so much else going right, and you’re more vulnerable to wild fluctuations. That’s one reason why the Lions were able to score more points than anyone else in the league in the first month of the season (when they were near-full strength) before getting shut out in four of their next six halves of football (when they lost DJ Chark, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Quintez Cephus and Josh Reynolds) while averaging just 12.0 points in those games.



You can do a lot worse than Jared Goff in this league. But you can do a lot better too, and almost every contender is better at that position. If the goal is to actually contend with those teams -- and it is -- then yes, the Lions fall into that second bucket. They’re looking for their quarterback. And until they land one, that will always be their No. 1 need.
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Ask Kyle: What are the Detroit Lions’ biggest needs heading into 2023?

Quarterback remains a need heading into next offseason. But just how big of a need is it?
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For right package and IMO you are nowhere close; I trade 1.1 to anyone but I think Lions more interested in Stroud or even Levis over Anderson. A post June 1st designation for Goff (who could go to Indy) allows them to add $26 million to space and spread dead of ten over two seasons. I want both round ones and round twos. Even better is Seattle trading to 1.1 for Anderson and we trade 1.3 to Lions. If we were to sign Geno, Seattle would drive up the bidding.
 
badboy said:
www.si.com

Ranking Detroit Lions top five NFL offseason needs - Sports Illustrated Detroit Lions News, Analysis and More

Fixing defense should be Lions' focus in offseason.
www.si.com www.si.com

From a Lions fan podcast:
www.mlive.com

Ask Kyle: What are the Detroit Lions’ biggest needs heading into 2023?

Quarterback remains a need heading into next offseason. But just how big of a need is it?
www.mlive.com www.mlive.com

For right package and IMO you are nowhere close; I trade 1.1 to anyone but I think Lions more interested in Stroud or even Levis over Anderson. A post June 1st designation for Goff (who could go to Indy) allows them to add $26 million to space and spread dead of ten over two seasons. I want both round ones and round twos. Even better is Seattle trading to 1.1 for Anderson and we trade 1.3 to Lions. If we were to sign Geno, Seattle would drive up the bidding.
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As things are standing today, it's looking like Chicago, Denver, Lions, Cards and Indy could all stand pat and let the draft come to them.

But Denver and LA are playing Sunday, so there will be some reshuffling. Rams also end the season against Seattle, so there's a chance for a win here. Arizona will be going with QB backup Colt McCoy. So who can say how the final standings will shake out.

I still think that Carolina might be the most desperate for moving up to draft a QB. As things now stand, Young, Stroud and Levis may all be off the board when they're on the clock, but trading up with the Texans would carry a hefty price. They do have SF's 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks.

As for the Texans, it's just one big question mark, with the biggest one being, will there be coaching changes?
 
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