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Jack Easterby is gone!

I would think this is good for the culture, bringing in free agents, trust in the building, next coach search, and just in general people not waiting for the knife in the back. Finally, the fans who pay attention will finally start to heal. I know I dropped my PSL and season tickets when it was BOB and Easterby as GM, then Derrick, and basically a sh!t show I could not give money to. I still don't spend money on these guys, but it is starting to look like a professional franchise now (the product is still coming along though!)
 
steelbtexan said:
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I didn't care if Easterby was fired or not. He had no power in the org this yr, so him being here didn't really matter to me. He did the job he was hired to do, clean up the trash in the org and help with the hiring of Caserio, who the McNair's had wanted to hire for yrs. His job had been completed down on Kirby.

The scapegoat is gone, who will be the new scapegoat? Remember the McNair's still own the team, so if things dont go well there will always be a new scapegoat. I'm guessing Lovie.
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Nah, he had power previously that wrecked this franchise. He was hired as a character coach,but you keep talking about trash or whatever. He climbed the ladder despite being terrible at everything and gained power. He was a con man and master manipulator . He got a golden parachute, so no tears from me. The only person that could fire him was Cal and I guess after Lovie and Carsterio got through feeding Cal, he decided it was time. Good for Cal
 
Boris said:
how can you say that when he was instrumental in re-signing DW4? His expertise was "character" & dude failed miserably.
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That was a McNair decision.

They chose marketing over doing the right thing (Shocking, Cal just followed his daddy's lead) and they paid a heavy price for that decision. Still are paying the price in some respects, rightfully so. Luckily it lead to a much needed rebuild and a much brighter future. IMHO
 
Hervoyel said:
I feel like I'm probably not in a good position to really appreciate how good this is. I punched out right before or just at the time of his arrival and started distancing myself from the Texans for my own sanity. As nothing seemed to get better for years after I can only assume I was fortunate to have missed most of his time here. I honestly still don't even know what he did exactly. I get that he was one of those people that seems to make the place dysfunctional but I also can't help but worry that the "dysfunction" was in the building a lot longer than Easterby. Probably longer than O'Brien as well.
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Yep, a man that gets it.

It starts at the top. Just as it's always been.

Remember the good old days when posters used to ridicule me for saying the McNair's weren't the hands off owners they portrayed themselves to be? I'm afraid we're seeing the 2nd act of this play. But time will tell if Cal's different than his dad. I've got my doubts.
 
leebigeztx said:
Nah, he had power previously that wrecked this franchise. He was hired as a character coach,but you keep talking about trash or whatever. He climbed the ladder despite being terrible at everything and gained power. He was a con man and master manipulator . He got a golden parachute, so no tears from me. The only person that could fire him was Cal and I guess after Lovie and Carsterio got through feeding Cal, he decided it was time. Good for Cal
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Like I said, It doesn't matter at all to me if Easterby was fired or not. Yes, the trash needed to be flushed out of the org.
 
Hervoyel said:
I feel like I'm probably not in a good position to really appreciate how good this is. I punched out right before or just at the time of his arrival and started distancing myself from the Texans for my own sanity. As nothing seemed to get better for years after I can only assume I was fortunate to have missed most of his time here. I honestly still don't even know what he did exactly. I get that he was one of those people that seems to make the place dysfunctional but I also can't help but worry that the "dysfunction" was in the building a lot longer than Easterby. Probably longer than O'Brien as well.
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Climbing out of a hole may not get you back to the trail out of the jungle but it's still a good thing.
 
Landry:

-12/15 media types at a dinner (hand selected) and basically said a lot of things that I thought were hilarious.

-Easterby decided he would control the narrative and said a little too much. This guy is a slime ball with no integrity.

List of stuff Easterby said on September 2nd that told me all I needed to know about this guy:
-Started off the dinner talking about the Astros. Goes on a big rant about fans not buying in and takes a process. Other people in the room are being more appropriate than me. I interrupt him and said I hope you’re not comparing your situation to the Astros.

-Kept going on, talking about tracking devices. Then he said something ridiculous. Remember the equipment guy that got fired? Jack sits there and goes “This is the craziest thing about the 2020 season. That game against Green Bay where we lost, there were four players on our team that had on the wrong pants.” … I’m like is this guy serious?

-He also talked about his time in New England. He said with a straight face the reason he left New England was because Robert Kraft wanted him to clone Bill Belichick. He said “I couldn’t do that to Bill.” (Landry) I swear to God on the Holy Bible.

-He carried around notes with quotes from people he knew and statistics asking people to write stories positive about him.

-Said he had nothing to do with firing Brian Gaine. Said Cal decided he didn’t want Brian Gaine anymore.

-Blamed Cal for Bill O’Brien. “I knew for a long time no one could work with Bill O’Brien and Cal kept letting it go.” Volatile personality and why BO’B had to go.

-Best thing you’ve done here? He said I want to take credit for hiring Nick Caserio.

-Easterby said he has never lied in his life.

-Kept talking about new facilities. Said the Texans have gotten cheap and were behind the times. Said he wanted an Apple/Google feel. Hinted Cal McNair wasn’t giving them the facilities they needed to succeed.

-Easterby challenged me to go on record about a player who publicly criticized him.



Lopez:

-Easterby was a fraud, a conman, a coward, a mercenary, a serpent, a sociopath. He did more damage to a professional sports organization in this city than Bud Adams did, than John McMullen ever did, than Jerry Glanville did.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1582042125239140352

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582006316368728065

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582023307335176193

https://twitter.com/x/status/1581998167570030593
 
steelbtexan said:
What changes might those be?
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Just speculating. We know how much Cal, Hannah, and Janice loved them some Easterby. Hard to imagine Jack aggravating his golden goose. Just thinking out loud wondering if Easterby's departure could be a precondition in order for something else to happen and move forward. Maybe not. May be something as simple as Jack becoming a distraction in the locker room.
 
Lucky said:
Maybe it’s foolish on my part to believe this firing is a significant move in improving the Texans. But I do. I feel much more positive about the future of this team.

Keep making good decisions, Cal.
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Not to worry Lucky because each of us is entitled to a few foolish moments now and then.
And BTW glad to hear about your new found positively re the Texans future.
 
IF they truly liked Easterby so much the only thing I can think of is we may have a certain someone that has a proclivity for massages.

Given the situation and the new complaints... maybe something came out with his name on it. Then again, maybe they just realized what everyone has known.
 
Littlefinger never made it to the final episode of Game of Thrones. Now we just need a dragon to fly in and burn the place down. lol :joker:

Better late than never to get rid of Easterby. The writing has been on the wall for awhile. The owners finally read some of it.

This is a good day in Houston Texans land. Consistently good franchises do not have a Jack Easterby in the building.
 
We had GM
steelbtexan said:
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I didn't care if Easterby was fired or not. He had no power in the org this yr, so him being here didn't really matter to me. He did the job he was hired to do, clean up the trash in the org and help with the hiring of Caserio, who the McNair's had wanted to hire for yrs. His job had been completed down on Kirby.

The scapegoat is gone, who will be the new scapegoat? Remember the McNair's still own the team, so if things dont go well there will always be a new scapegoat. I'm guessing Lovie.
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We had GM and HC choices we were targeting that flat out refused to be considered for the Texans as long as Jack Easterby had a role with this organization. Players and agents avoided the Texans as potential destinations because of him. He was loathed at NRG by the staff and was a snake. No matter him being neutered he needed to be thrown out the building and have nothing to do with the team. Buy-in of rebuild can really happen now.
 
steelbtexan said:
That was a McNair decision.

They chose marketing over doing the right thing (Shocking, Cal just followed his daddy's lead) and they paid a heavy price for that decision. Still are paying the price in some respects, rightfully so. Luckily it lead to a much needed rebuild and a much brighter future. IMHO
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Easterby negotiated Watson's contract.
steelbtexan said:
If true, that will get you fired.
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Rick Smith leaked info to the media all the time.
 
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steelbtexan said:
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I didn't care if Easterby was fired or not. He had no power in the org this yr, so him being here didn't really matter to me. He did the job he was hired to do, clean up the trash in the org and help with the hiring of Caserio, who the McNair's had wanted to hire for yrs. His job had been completed down on Kirby.

The scapegoat is gone, who will be the new scapegoat? Remember the McNair's still own the team, so if things dont go well there will always be a new scapegoat. I'm guessing Lovie.
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Lovie is a below-average to average at best HC. Once we draft a franchise QB this year or next, we need to hire an elite offensive mind as HC. Lovie can be a placeholder until then. He is nothing more. The Josh McCown potential nightmare is no more.
 
TexansFight said:
We had GM

We had GM and HC choices we were targeting that flat out refused to be considered for the Texans as long as Jack Easterby had a role with this organization. Players and agents avoided the Texans as potential destinations because of him. He was loathed at NRG by the staff and was a snake. No matter him being neutered he needed to be thrown out the building and have nothing to do with the team. Buy-in of rebuild can really happen now.
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When you are brought in to change the culture of a franchise, you're usually disliked. It needed to be done, he did his job and was well compensated for being the villan. Cal should've actually done this job if he had the balls for it.
 
Double Barrel said:
Littlefinger never made it to the final episode of Game of Thrones. Now we just need a dragon to fly in and burn the place down. lol :joker:

Better late than never to get rid of Easterby. The writing has been on the wall for awhile. The owners finally read some of it.

This is a good day in Houston Texans land. Consistently good franchises do not have a Jack Easterby in the building.
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Except: "Easterby gained notoriety with the New England Patriots, joining the franchise as a "character coach" in 2013. The Patriots won three Super Bowls during his tenure from 2013 to 2018, and he developed close relationships with several players." He was there six years and it was reported that they were 'livid' over his leaving..

But he became a distraction here and needed to go. However.....we are not a "good franchise" and our problems do not leave with him.

:coffee:
 
steelbtexan said:
When you are brought in to change the culture of a franchise, you're usually disliked. It needed to be done, he did his job and was well compensated for being the villan. Cal should've actually done this job if he had the balls for it.
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C'mon bro, the bad culture started with he got here. He came here when Bob passed. He was a character coach similar to JJ Moses and what happened to him? Olson, Palcic,Rootes, all them guys were part of his war path. The guy who is the character coach now, Dylan Thompson, that was his job and nobody see him being interim gm.
 
cuppacoffee said:
Except: "Easterby gained notoriety with the New England Patriots, joining the franchise as a "character coach" in 2013. The Patriots won three Super Bowls during his tenure from 2013 to 2018, and he developed close relationships with several players." He was there six years and it was reported that they were 'livid' over his leaving..

But he became a distraction here and needed to go. However.....we are not a "good franchise" and our problems do not leave with him.

:coffee:
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He was more than a distraction. He was hand in hand with OB in tearing apart this franchise. Maybe he didn't have as much pull lately, but he was still trying to get his buddy McCown in as HC as late as this past January.

Maybe they still aren't a good franchise with him out of the building because you've still got questionable (at best) ownership, but maybe they can start getting away from being one of the worst franchises.
 
Speedy said:
He was more than a distraction. He was hand in hand with OB in tearing apart this franchise. Maybe he didn't have as much pull lately, but he was still trying to get his buddy McCown in as HC as late as this past January.

Maybe they still aren't a good franchise with him out of the building because you've still got questionable (at best) ownership, but maybe they can start getting away from being one of the worst franchises.
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Lol..

The Houston Texans: At least we're not the worst franchise!
 
leebigeztx said:
C'mon bro, the bad culture started with he got here. He came here when Bob passed. He was a character coach similar to JJ Moses and what happened to him? Olson, Palcic,Rootes, all them guys were part of his war path. The guy who is the character coach now, Dylan Thompson, that was his job and nobody see him being interim gm.
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It was pretty bad culture a few years in with OB. He and Smith were clashing and things were coming to a head. The video isn’t from the time I am referencing but it sums up what it must be like to work with OB.

 
Speedy said:
He was more than a distraction. He was hand in hand with OB in tearing apart this franchise. Maybe he didn't have as much pull lately, but he was still trying to get his buddy McCown in as HC as late as this past January.

Maybe they still aren't a good franchise with him out of the building because you've still got questionable (at best) ownership, but maybe they can start getting away from being one of the worst franchises.
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So you think Lovie is doing a better job than McCown could have done? :shades: I don't.

Think I've read here that some thought momma McNair favored McCown.

Hiring a failed HC is not necessarily a better choice than hiring a first time coach. Lovie failed miserably on his last job.

How much money is Lovie saving Cal by not hiring a DC? :thinking: A concession to get the job?

:coffee:
 
Interesting timing, was it Corrosion who posted the off-season before last that Easterby was done but they would wait a year to fire him to save face. Unsure why he made it through to the bye, but it was pretty clear to me last season that he was a cheerleader on the sidelines and no longer front and centre.

Cal seems to be growing into the role as owner, he seemed to hide behind Easterby for a period and now seems more comfortable voicing for himself. The way the last few years have been I welcome change but we’ll see how he does, I’m happy to give him a clean slate and hope for the best.

Hopefully we won’t be quite so tied in to the Patriot way next hiring cycle.

Id love to see a full tear down and start again on the coaching staff. I want to like Lovie but I don’t think his D can live with some of these great QBs in the modern game regardless of talent, the OB>Kelly>Pep evolution is not my cup of tea, the O might be different but it’s still shite.

And above all else, while I do believe character is important, I don’t believe you open yourself to the best players if you are only willing to invest in devout Christians who are hoodwinked by preachers. Can find great character and winning players with a much more open framework to search.
 
leebigeztx said:
C'mon bro, the bad culture started with he got here. He came here when Bob passed. He was a character coach similar to JJ Moses and what happened to him? Olson, Palcic,Rootes, all them guys were part of his war path. The guy who is the character coach now, Dylan Thompson, that was his job and nobody see him being interim gm.
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Are you saying Easterby wasn't brought here to do an indepth look at the entire Texans org? Because that's exactly what he was hired to o do, along with trying to bring Caserio on board. I've heard this from people who would know. The Texans had, had sexual harassment charges brought against them for ad conduct by FO personnel.
 
cuppacoffee said:
Except: "Easterby gained notoriety with the New England Patriots, joining the franchise as a "character coach" in 2013. The Patriots won three Super Bowls during his tenure from 2013 to 2018, and he developed close relationships with several players." He was there six years and it was reported that they were 'livid' over his leaving..

But he became a distraction here and needed to go. However.....we are not a "good franchise" and our problems do not leave with him.

:coffee:
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This,

People make it out like he came with no credentials.

That's simply not true.
 
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Glad to see the man who put the final stake into the heart of my Texans fandom has gotten relieved of his duties. If only it had happened when BoB got fired, I'd still be a fan. I will refrain from what I truly want to say about Easterby as I don't want to be banned even though I don't come here often anymore.

Happy for you all who have stuck around that this day has finally come.
 
steelbtexan said:
When you are brought in to change the culture of a franchise, you're usually disliked. It needed to be done, he did his job and was well compensated for being the villan. Cal should've actually done this job if he had the balls for it.
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If you pay attention to NFL history, you'd quickly realize that the only so-called "culture" that matters in the league is a WINNING CULTURE.

And that has always originated with the HEAD COACH, not some overpaid, under-qualified, back-stabbing and swindling camp counselor.

The McNair had it ass-backwards. And maybe, just maybe, Caserio is quietly and gently correcting those monumentally stupid mistakes.

cuppacoffee said:
Except: "Easterby gained notoriety with the New England Patriots, joining the franchise as a "character coach" in 2013. The Patriots won three Super Bowls during his tenure from 2013 to 2018, and he developed close relationships with several players." He was there six years and it was reported that they were 'livid' over his leaving..

But he became a distraction here and needed to go. However.....we are not a "good franchise" and our problems do not leave with him.

:coffee:
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If Easterby had remained in that position with the Houston Texans, he'd probably still be here and nobody would know his name.

Your obvious and glaring mistake is not understanding that putting Easterby in such an important role - GENERAL MANAGER - would NEVER have happened on a team like the New England Patriots. . .or even 30 other freakin' NFL teams.

That stupidity was solely the realm of the Tommy Boy of Texas.
 
welsh texan said:
Interesting timing, was it Corrosion who posted the off-season before last that Easterby was done but they would wait a year to fire him to save face. Unsure why he made it through to the bye, but it was pretty clear to me last season that he was a cheerleader on the sidelines and no longer front and centre.

Cal seems to be growing into the role as owner, he seemed to hide behind Easterby for a period and now seems more comfortable voicing for himself. The way the last few years have been I welcome change but we’ll see how he does, I’m happy to give him a clean slate and hope for the best.

Hopefully we won’t be quite so tied in to the Patriot way next hiring cycle.

Id love to see a full tear down and start again on the coaching staff. I want to like Lovie but I don’t think his D can live with some of these great QBs in the modern game regardless of talent, the OB>Kelly>Pep evolution is not my cup of tea, the O might be different but it’s still shite.

And above all else, while I do believe character is important, I don’t believe you open yourself to the best players if you are only willing to invest in devout Christians who are hoodwinked by preachers. Can find great character and winning players with a much more open framework to search.
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Great post and there will be a new coaching staff after next season. Depending on how this season goes, maybe after this season.
 
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