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Lovie likes "Sauce"?

SnakeEyes said:
Seems he met with him at his Pro Day

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2022 NFL Draft: Does Lovie Smith Love Sauce Gardner?

The Texans’ head coach had a private meeting with the standout cornerback.
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Stats from the text:-
Texans HC Lovie Smith is at Cincinnati’s Pro day Today Cincy CB Sauce Gardner This past season: •40 Tackles •3 Sacks •3 INT •Allowed 0 TD in his College career •Length •Recovery speed •Aggressive tackler •Ball skills •Use of trail technique, uses his length.

Did you get that? 0 - that's ZERO allowed TD's...
I also like the fact he has 3 sacks!
 
SnakeEyes said:
Seems he met with him at his Pro Day

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2022 NFL Draft: Does Lovie Smith Love Sauce Gardner?

The Texans’ head coach had a private meeting with the standout cornerback.
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Every team likes Sauce. He’s a premiere prospect. Lovie and the Texans DB coach were at the pro day because Cincy’s secondary has three players in this draft that would be viable starters for this team. I could see Texans targeting any combo of Sauce, Bryant and Cook. I just posted a mock draft with a somewhat viable scenario to get all three (picking them where I project them. Though I don’t see Kenyon Green at 37 or Hassan Haskins at 183 like the simulator gave me but i’d take them if there!!)
 
TheRealJoker said:
Every team likes Sauce. He’s a premiere prospect. Lovie and the Texans DB coach were at the pro day because Cincy’s secondary has three players in this draft that would be viable starters for this team. I could see Texans targeting any combo of Sauce, Bryant and Cook. I just posted a mock draft with a somewhat viable scenario to get all three (picking them where I project them. Though I don’t see Kenyon Green at 37 or Hassan Haskins at 183 like the simulator gave me but i’d take them if there!!)
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Sauce is my #1 choice @ #3. He is about as safe a pick at CB as you could imagine - that and Corners are so valuable in today's league make him the prime choice for Texans at #3.
 
Texansphan said:
Stats from the text:-
Texans HC Lovie Smith is at Cincinnati’s Pro day Today Cincy CB Sauce Gardner This past season: •40 Tackles •3 Sacks •3 INT •Allowed 0 TD in his College career •Length •Recovery speed •Aggressive tackler •Ball skills •Use of trail technique, uses his length.

Did you get that? 0 - that's ZERO allowed TD's...
I also like the fact he has 3 sacks!
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Yeah, I got it. And I’ve been banging the drum here to get some Sauce at 3.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Every team likes Sauce. He’s a premiere prospect. Lovie and the Texans DB coach were at the pro day because Cincy’s secondary has three players in this draft that would be viable starters for this team. I could see Texans targeting any combo of Sauce, Bryant and Cook. I just posted a mock draft with a somewhat viable scenario to get all three (picking them where I project them. Though I don’t see Kenyon Green at 37 or Hassan Haskins at 183 like the simulator gave me but i’d take them if there!!)
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That would be freakin awesome.
 
My only concern with Ahmad Gardner is he in my opinion is best in man mirror coverage. I think Lovie will play him in Zone. I think sauce can handle that well but not his best use. If man, that will take some pressure off our avg safeties. I would love to put Dax Hill across from sauce.
 
Texansphan said:
KJ 6'0" 188 pounds 31" arms 8 3/8" hands. Grade 6.3
AG 6'3" 190 pounds 33 1/2" arms 9 5/8" hands. Grade 6.72
The only similarity is the weight.
Gardner also has more ints and Saks in fewer games.
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I’m curious about one thing….does the NFL Combine utilize Combine information exclusively to determine their “Grade” or do they take a players entire CFB careers into consideration as well?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’m curious about one thing….does the NFL Combine utilize Combine information exclusively to determine their “Grade” or do they take a players entire CFB careers into consideration as well?
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I like CBSSports.com - they produce a big board prior to the combine based on college play including stats, tape and scouting reports.
The combine seems to major on 40 times - yeah, not so important if you're in the trenches.
Ultimately, how you play has more impact than how fast you run in a straight line.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’m curious about one thing….does the NFL Combine utilize Combine information exclusively to determine their “Grade” or do they take a players entire CFB careers into consideration as well?
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The grade is determined by writers employed by NFL.com to provide content to fill their web pages. The grade is arbitrary and should not be considered as football gospel. Your player assessment could be as good if not better than what the nfl.com is providing. The NFL folks assigning grades are also influenced by media hype and are just as guilty of following the herd as everyone else doing this. It's just another version of Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, Todd McShay or Matt Miller.
 
Texian said:
The grade is determined by writers employed by NFL.com to provide content to fill their web pages. The grade is arbitrary and should not be considered as football gospel. Your player assessment could be as good if not better than what the nfl.com is providing. The NFL folks assigning grades are also influenced by media hype and are just as guilty of following the herd as everyone else doing this. It's just another version of Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, Todd McShay or Matt Miller.
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You can look at any player on Draftbuzz.com and they will have the score in graph form from several major scouting organizations as well as the average. And they vary widely.
 
Toro Bravo said:
You can look at any player on Draftbuzz.com and they will have the score in graph form from several major scouting organizations as well as the average. And they vary widely.
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Better to watch film. You can see if a player messes up. Plus, 75% of the videos will have someone narrating the video who half knows what they are talking about
 
Texansphan said:
Stats from the text:-
Texans HC Lovie Smith is at Cincinnati’s Pro day Today Cincy CB Sauce Gardner This past season: •40 Tackles •3 Sacks •3 INT •Allowed 0 TD in his College career •Length •Recovery speed •Aggressive tackler •Ball skills •Use of trail technique, uses his length.

Did you get that? 0 - that's ZERO allowed TD's...
I also like the fact he has 3 sacks!
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Sauce hasn't given up a TD in 3yrs. It might be more if you look back to High School. It is something like 90 targets that he broke up or just had the WR covered to well. If memory serves he also only allowed 17 catches last year. While I am wanting an edge at 3...I wouldn’t be upset if we took Sauce. At almost 6' 3 with speed and about 200lbs he is a blue chip player. His only issue could be he is a bit touchy with WRs which he has to fix in the NFL. We really don't need PI penalties for no reason
 
The last “sure thing”, guaranteed stud I remember was VY….or was it Reggie Bush?….Nah, it was Aaron Curry…No No No it was Lavar Arrington. Or was it Tony Mandarich or Big daddy Wilkinson?
 
Jack Burton said:
Exactly. Don’t F this up. Get the closest thing to a slam dunk and move on to 13 knowing you got a day 1 starter.
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Some have Stingley higher and an Edge is a need too. So I will take Sauce or an Edge...won't be happy with a OL at 3. Draft is deep at OL and we can get quality starters into the 4th.
 
Texansphan said:
Which OL do you like in the 4th? (#107, 108)
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I didn't say I would wait until the 4th. This is just a very deep OL draft guys like Mitchell, Strange, Tom are likely to be around in the 3rd. And are graded 83-85 out of 100. The only Neal is a 95 and Ikam Ekwonu is a 90.8 (91). After that first say 8 OL players, including the 2 above, drop into the mid 80's. The 3 I listed are good players and starting caliber. But, of all OL grades are rated around the teens.

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Offensive Line s prospect rankings for the 2022 NFL Draft. Breakdowns of the best Offensive Line prospects and averages of other scouting reports.
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SnakeEyes said:
I didn't say I would wait until the 4th. This is just a very deep OL draft guys like Mitchell, Strange, Tom are likely to be around in the 3rd. And are graded 83-85 out of 100. The only Neal is a 95 and Ikam Ekwonu is a 90.8 (91). After that first say 8 OL players, including the 2 above, drop into the mid 80's. The 3 I listed are good players and starting caliber. But, of all OL grades are rated around the teens.

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Offensive Line Rankings 2022 NFL Draft

Offensive Line s prospect rankings for the 2022 NFL Draft. Breakdowns of the best Offensive Line prospects and averages of other scouting reports.
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They may look good on paper, and there are hits down in the lower rounds with OL, but the top guys are ranked high for a reason.
Most of us were happy getting Max Scharping at #55, but that hasn't exactly worked out either.
 
Mr teX said:
This type of rationale is why we haven’t had a good OL & offense since 2011-2012.
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Yes but look at that line: Brown-Smith-Myers-Brisiel-Winston. Brown was the only player that had a significant investment and it was pick 26. Line coach and scheme had more to do with their success. I am OK with going o-line at 13 if the selection has eventual left tackle potential, but would be very disappointed if they use pick 3 on any OL that doesn't have feet to play left tackle.
 
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Texansballer74 said:
Is that really the reason or was it poor coaching? What we think (rationale) has no bearing on this organization one bit.
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No its that type of thinking. Thinking that you can get keep putting off drafting subpar talent and field a competent o-line. That same thinking ultimately led to us trading for Tunsil…..a top 15 pick in 2016. At some point you have to realize that those big uglies are the keys to everything on offense and defense and you gotta spend the capital to get the talent.
 
gs27 said:
Yes but look at that line: Brown-Smith-Myers-Brisiel-Winston. Brown was the only player that had a significant investment and it was pick 26. Line coach and scheme had more to do with their success. I am OK with going o-line at 13 if the selection has eventual left tackle potential, but would be very disappointed if they use pick 3 on any OL that doesn't have feet to play left tackle.
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There are 3 prospects with the feet in this draft. We sucked running the ball last year so you also need some nastiness…those guys are available for us in the top 5. Im not for taking chances that 1 of those types will fall to us at 13.
 
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