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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22
- Thread starter TexansFan15
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Leftwich didn't trust or want to work with Baalke and you can't blame him. BTW. Everyone time I read or hear Baalke's name, I think of Balki from Perfect Strangers.
Number19
Hall of Fame
1961, Norm Van Brocklin's first year as a HC with the Minnesota Vikings. His last year as a player was 1960, so he had no experience when hired as the Vikings' HC the following year.
They need to just make Lovie the HC. Pep the OC. & McCown the TE/QB coach.
Remember when Jerrah brought in Jason Garrett as OC before hiring a HC?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
True. I’d say the Cowboys have been run this way since Jimmy Johnson left.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Bingo
wildroot
Veteran
and DC?
Obviously it's gotta be Batman.
Jack Burton
Veteran
Ah the Cowboys…just when i thought HOU was a giant fustercluck….
I’m sure Jack has someone in mind.
whodknee
Working Class Hero
This did not age well...I was told Thursday from a very good source the Coach was hired. They were going to announce on Friday afternoon at the latest. I wonder what happened? Something did happen because he was sure about it.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Really stinks we're not considering Mike McDaniel or Demeco Ryans.
If we go with Flores in the wake of this dumb ****, I think that'll be my final straw for my fandom. Which also stinks because just a few weeks ago I may have considered him as I thought he did a good job in Miami.
I'd hire my grandma over that cancerous loser.
If we go with Flores in the wake of this dumb ****, I think that'll be my final straw for my fandom. Which also stinks because just a few weeks ago I may have considered him as I thought he did a good job in Miami.
I'd hire my grandma over that cancerous loser.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Here's my stand on this.
We fans do not know who the people in charge are or are not seriously considering. Not really. We don't know who they've talked to or how extensively.
We may not even know who they've had actual face to face meetings with.
We cannot trust anything the media says. They don't really know. They're mostly just guessing, just like us, hearing rumors, trying to make sense of it.
We don't really know who is in power or how much power they have. We only have hearsay and hypotheticals.
It may turn out that these rumors are true or contain a grain of truth, but they may all be BS.
I will not be surprised if we end up going after a Callahan or Raheem Morris.
I’d be happiest with Flores
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
It would be a bold move. We would immediately become the most hated or most loved team (ok, that's an exaggeration but trending in that direction.) Flores is far more qualified then McCown.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Don’t want Lovie as HC, he had one good year in Chicago and then his time in Tampa was bad. Let him stay the DC and have full control of that side of the ball, draft/sign some real talent for him and then the HC can focus on the offense.
And the Coach was...?
The Texans post the candidates on their website.
Did you just re-read Nineteen Eighty-Four?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Yeah, that's what they want you to think.
From the posts I saw around here, they were kinda negligent with keeping that updated. They had interviews that didn't get posted.
We're living in A Brave New World with a couple of jumbo sized helpings of Nineteen Eight-Four on the side.
This is perfectly Texans. Let's get down to three candidates and then have trouble finishing the process. Corporate decision making is usually slow and convoluted with the result being safe and/or disappointing. So here we are.
I think someone might have missed his dose of Soma.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I kinda pondered this earlier in the week when the Flores fiasco kicked off:
A. Wouldn't a team hiring Flores negate some of his claims?
B. Would the NFL secretly reward that team In the future (maybe regarding dw for instance?)
C. Most folks seem to dislike Goodell and the owners in general. Would a maverick move like hiring Flores now give a team a cult following? Said team would get more attention then they could buy especially if they followed it with any success.
I'm not sure where I stand on any of those questions but figured I'd ask out loud.
Yeah, that's what they want you to think.
From the posts I saw around here, they were kinda negligent with keeping that updated. They had interviews that didn't get posted.
We're living in A Brave New World with a couple of jumbo sized helpings of Nineteen Eight-Four on the side.
Teaching this to high school seniors currently. As a group actually don't get the media or social media privacy stuff at all.
I'm happy about this. I smell a culture war inside NRG.
"The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall."
Che Guevara. Or was it Jack Easterby? I can't remember anymore.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I have no idea who this guy is or if there is any merit to this, but either @CloakNNNdagger or @Corrosion mentioned somewhere up this thread that the texans liked Flores, but there were disagreements on staffing etc. It's plausible that they offered him the job with caveats and he then declined it. Who knows, the NFL might have asked the Texans to do that.
Why?
He's proven he cant decide on an OC, much less a QB. How he acted with Tua last yr and thefact that he's neer had a QB develop under his regime automatically disquailifies him. IMHO
This doesn't even take into account his attitude issues. (Notice how not even one player from the Dolphins has backed him up.) Plus his BS lawsuit tells me he's a big no as far as I'm concerned for the Texans HC position. I've already been through the politician RS/Godfather yrs and have no desire to go back to those yrs ever again.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Flores was not offered the position, and he never had an opportunity to turn it down. The reasons.........he wanted total control of coaching staff (with "tough types").........he was suing the NFL......but major reason to specifically nail the coffin.............David Mulugheta!
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
To me that all but cements him being our new HC. Just a little feeling but he fits into the NE picture, and now the possibility of a lawsuit...
Flores is a Mulagetta client
Color me not surprised.
I never would've interviewed him.
He’s a proven coach. Back to back winning seasons with a hoyerble QB situation.
He doesn’t need to pick an OC. Jack’s got one waiting for him.
Don’t know what to say. I grew up with the “if the employees like you, you’re not doing your job” way of thinking.
That will work itself out. Excellent marketing opportunity for the Texans
vtech9
All Pro
In my experience, if the employees don't like you, they will find someplace else to work.
SeriousShizzle
Rookie
Did Flores really got dirty in Miami? He had buttload of picks.... any of them pan out?
Did not really follow the Fish cause..... they sucked........... Just concern he has no eye for talent.
Bilichick reject
Did not really follow the Fish cause..... they sucked........... Just concern he has no eye for talent.
Bilichick reject
wildroot
Veteran
Did he mention who the coach was?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Flores was a serious candidate for the job. The problem was he wants to hand pick his own coaching staff. And he’s not onboard with the method in which allows Nick to coach over the headphones. Lol
man everyone is grasping for straws. Do not believe the hype.That type of information is not being leaked like that.
The main issue is a power struggle between friends. B
man everyone is grasping for straws. Do not believe the hype.That type of information is not being leaked like that.
The main issue is a power struggle between friends. B
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Hundred percent true.
wildroot
Veteran
I say the same, 100% true.
But meanwhile...
So while you've dug in for a week trying to decide out of the 3 who you want to coach this team, the rest of the league is gobbling up the OCs and DCs and the lower tier up and coming position coaches.
C'mon already Nick! Make a @%#$ing decision!
One of them has no experience
One is going to have some huge distractions and a huge chip on his shoulder, and the 3rd one is probably getting ready to say screw it, you've had me dangling out here for a week now, forget it, I don't want any part of this mess!
I don't understand why whatever it is you're trying to do, these other teams have already managed to seamlessly take care of, made their hire and have moved on to hiring their assistant coaches.
If you have to, there's always eeny meeny miny moe...just do it, no one will know.
But meanwhile...
So while you've dug in for a week trying to decide out of the 3 who you want to coach this team, the rest of the league is gobbling up the OCs and DCs and the lower tier up and coming position coaches.
C'mon already Nick! Make a @%#$ing decision!
One of them has no experience
One is going to have some huge distractions and a huge chip on his shoulder, and the 3rd one is probably getting ready to say screw it, you've had me dangling out here for a week now, forget it, I don't want any part of this mess!
I don't understand why whatever it is you're trying to do, these other teams have already managed to seamlessly take care of, made their hire and have moved on to hiring their assistant coaches.
If you have to, there's always eeny meeny miny moe...just do it, no one will know.
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TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Same reason Mcdaniels didn’t take an interview. Or an established HC like Pederson or Harbaugh.
So, we have gone from acquiring Texans worthy players to not acquiring Mulugheta worthy clients? I'm not sure you know this, but David Mulugheta is not the founder or owner of the Athletes First agency. In fact, he's not even the only AF agent. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Donald, Dak Prescott, Fletcher Cox, Budda Baker and many other players are all AF clients but their agents are Todd France, Brian Murphy and other agents
Currently, AF is the second most valuable NFL agency. If Mulugheta was doing something to diminish that brand he would probably get fired and not be able to take his clients with him. My point is similar to Scott Boras, many teams might hate dealing with him. But if your team is too weak to deal with him or agents like him then you will be ignoring a significant pool of players and even coaches.
banned1976
sleeper mode
Gen X'ers, my generation, for the most part isn't averse to moving around. We change brands, change jobs, change locations, etc. more than the generation before us.
I have no clue what the McNair's are doing right now and I'm not so sure they know either. I thought when they fired Culley, they'd be one of the first teams that was looking for HC to fill that vacancy. My suspicion is, based on some of what Cloak has written that there is a difference of opinion between what Caserio wants, what Janice wants, and what Cal wants. Does it matter? I don't know. In the end, they'll hire somebody. But I was really hoping when the Texans hired Caserio they'd let him do his job and make those decisions. Because, as I alluded to earlier in this paragraph, I don't think the McNair's know what they're doing. Maybe they should have just saved their money and continued allowing Easterby to do whatever he was doing with O'Brien.
Had BO'b new how to pick an OC, or let Jack find him one I wouldn't have been upset with BO'b the HC.
I mean if we never went through that BO'b the GM thing.
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
Important to remember that a coach who is preparing for the big game may well have had time to interview in the past week but may have requested that an announcement not be made until after the super bowl is played.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The rules state that interviews must stop as soon as the participating SB teams arrive to the SB city to practice. The Rams technically would not have been able to interview anytime recently since they reside in the SB city. The Bengals will still be able to interview until they arrive in Ca. Tuesday.