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Week 9 @ the Fish

TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
Mills will be cut before the regular season begins next year.
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Whether he is or isnt I couldn't care less.

I do hope they build around his position though cause whether it is Mills, Tyrod or anyone else I'd like them to have protection and targets. I don't devalue the need for a run game, but I wouldn't want to build my team around it either.

Whoever holds the position this time next year SHOULD have more to work with than what is currently out there.
 
This game will probably be close but I can't pick the Texans because of how bad they play pass defense. I guess they need to hope Flores goes for it on 4th down for no reason in his own territory again.
 
Texansballer74 said:
The Texans will win this game 23-15
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I think it could go either way.
At least, it should be a competitive game.
That is unless Vegas interferes.
Maybe both teams will try to pump up a certain player or two for a trade in the off-season.
Whatever that might benefit them both... Setting the stage for the Big Trade.
 
Taylor played against a softie, played well for a half, and is now set to start against another softie.

Mills has to do his learning against some of the best defenses in the NFL. But he did get in one heck of a half against the Patriots. Personally, I would’ve preferred to see Mills play a team the Texans are supposed to have a chance against.

I did say I’d like to see Mills carry the clipboard when Taylor got healthy if only to allow him the proper time to develop. I will stick by that thought b/c it’s in the best interest for all involved. Mills will be a much better QB with this break.
 
Thorn said:
If Taylor shines, maybe we could eventually offload him for a late round draft pick. We seem to love stockpiling those.
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OK so he's also under contract thru '22 ?
And obviously if we start winning then we hurt our Draft position.
 
IDEXAN said:
I dunno but isn't it counter productive to play Tyrod at this point in the development and evaluation of Mills ?
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It may be better for Mills to play, but the team needs a pick-me-up that a win could provide. If Taylor is 100%, the consensus seems to be that he's the better chance of providing this win. Plus, the Texans play the Titans following the bye.

The medical reason Taylor didn't play last week is that it was his first week to return to practice and his hamstring being stressed. The Fins are an opponent that won't provide a lot of pressure. The perfect opponent to take his return to game conditions to the next step. With the bye, Taylor should be ready for the Titans.

Chances are good that Taylor will reinjure his hamstring and Mills returning to starting. Sitting a couple of games won't do Mills any harm.

And there's the traditional adage, though not always followed, that veteran starters don't lose their job because of injury.

And finally, I'd personally like to see Taylor's performance with the Texans current starters, just for comparison. All part of Mills' evaluation process.
 
steelbtexan said:
Not at this time.

What's your point?
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CONTEXT

It doesn't matter that Mills played tougher defenses than Tyrod. Tyrod is still the better QB at this time. People will make posts saying Tyrod is a better QB than Mills. Water is wet, sky is blue...
 
thunderkyss said:
CONTEXT

It doesn't matter that Mills played tougher defenses than Tyrod. Tyrod is still the better QB at this time. People will make posts saying Tyrod is a better QB than Mills. Water is wet, sky is blue...
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Is this season about the future, or winning games this year?
 
austins23 said:
I’m still sitting around waiting for the TEs to be involved in the game plan.
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I know Pharoah Brown has been banged up and with the mediocre OL play, the TEs have been staying in to block. However, based on what we have witnessed over the last 5-6 years, ignoring the TEs for weeks is a feature of this B'OB/TK offense. It doesn't make sense because when it comes to the passing game, a TE should be a young QB's best friend.
 
Earl34 said:
I know Pharoah Brown has been banged up and with the mediocre OL play, the TEs have been staying in to block. However, based on what we have witnessed over the last 5-6 years, ignoring the TEs for weeks is a feature of this B'OB/TK offense. It doesn't make sense because when it comes to the passing game, a TE should be a young QB's best friend.
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I agree 100% .... problem is, when the OLine is as poor as ours, they wish they could put 3 TE's, and our FB up there !
 
Earl34 said:
I know Pharoah Brown has been banged up and with the mediocre OL play, the TEs have been staying in to block. However, based on what we have witnessed over the last 5-6 years, ignoring the TEs for weeks is a feature of this B'OB/TK offense. It doesn't make sense because when it comes to the passing game, a TE should be a young QB's best friend.
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Are you actually expecting the Texans to do the right thing? You should know better by now. LOL
 
steelbtexan said:
Is this season about the future, or winning games this year?
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I don’t know how that matters when people start posting that Tyrod is better than Mills. I doubt anyone who does will think Tyrod has a bigger share of the Texans future, if either does at all.

if they extend Tyrod (c’mon, we both know they do stupid crap that doesn’t make sense to either of us), do you think there will be a true competition in the off-season? Wouldn’t it be better if Davis could win that competition head up?
 
Number19 said:
It may be better for Mills to play, but the team needs a pick-me-up that a win could provide. If Taylor is 100%, the consensus seems to be that he's the better chance of providing this win. Plus, the Texans play the Titans following the bye.

The medical reason Taylor didn't play last week is that it was his first week to return to practice and his hamstring being stressed. The Fins are an opponent that won't provide a lot of pressure. The perfect opponent to take his return to game conditions to the next step. With the bye, Taylor should be ready for the Titans.

Chances are good that Taylor will reinjure his hamstring and Mills returning to starting. Sitting a couple of games won't do Mills any harm.

And there's the traditional adage, though not always followed, that veteran starters don't lose their job because of injury.

And finally, I'd personally like to see Taylor's performance with the Texans current starters, just for comparison. All part of Mills' evaluation process.
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Ok that's some interesting comments on the subject, but check this out, something a friend told about playing Tyrod.
My friend feels that the Texans ownership feels they need a win in the worst way because they are losing the fan base which
wants to see something positive some time soon happen on the field.
Personally I don't by that, but what do I know, so maybe he's right ?
 
IDEXAN said:
Ok that's some interesting comments on the subject, but check this out, something a friend told about playing Tyrod.
My friend feels that the Texans ownership feels they need a win in the worst way because they are losing the fan base which
wants to see something positive some time soon happen on the field.
Personally I don't by that, but what do I know, so maybe he's right ?
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I'm not sure about the fan base. I haven't looked into it, but I believe I heard a comment on 610 that game attendance is down league wide, it's not just the Texans.
 
Lucky said:
Taylor is on a one year deal and is a free agent after the season.
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Ok so if we don't have a tradeable asset in Tyrod, then there's really no motive for the Texans to play Tyrod in the hopes he showes well to the rest of the league.
 
IDEXAN said:
Ok so if we don't have a tradeable asset in Tyrod, then there's really no motive for the Texans to play Tyrod in the hopes he showes well to the rest of the league.
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I believe this is accurate. I also believe the more important motive is that the team wants to win and Taylor gives you the better chance at doing so. If you want to develope a winning "culture" the team comes first. If Caserio wants more playing time for Mills, for development and evaluation, then we'll see him on the field again before the end of the season.
 
IDEXAN said:
Ok that's some interesting comments on the subject, but check this out, something a friend told about playing Tyrod.
My friend feels that the Texans ownership feels they need a win in the worst way because they are losing the fan base which
wants to see something positive some time soon happen on the field.
Personally I don't by that, but what do I know, so maybe he's right ?
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I don't know what the owner thinks or anyone else really.

I can see Caserio going either way. Wanting Mills to play so he can evaluate him in the starters role. But he's not a starter. I can see Caserio wanting Mills in a backup role which will probably give him a truer picture of what he has.

Culley & I would imagine the team would want the guy who gives them the best chance to win.
 
IDEXAN said:
Ok so if we don't have a tradeable asset in Tyrod, then there's really no motive for the Texans to play Tyrod in the hopes he showes well to the rest of the league.
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I think all the guys brought in on one year deals are being evaluated to see if an extension will be offered to them & if so how much?

Maybe the Texans feel Mills is not the answer. They draft another QB to compete for the 2nd spot.
 
IDEXAN said:
Ok so if we don't have a tradeable asset in Tyrod, then there's really no motive for the Texans to play Tyrod in the hopes he showes well to the rest of the league.
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even if untradeable does Taylor and projected players for future need time together? I still think he is our QB 2022.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I think Tyrod comes out and plays well this week. The offense is productive against this defense and we’ll have to temper our expectations going forward and realize the Dolphins are a dumpster fire just like the Texans.
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Brother everyone knows the Dolphins are a dumpster fire just like us.
 
thunderkyss said:
A TE scored a TD last week. Stop being greedy.
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It was Brevin Jordan, the rookie, who finally got to see the field. I mentioned a few games ago that I thought Caserio’s picks were pretty good based on where he had to start his draft. Then someone mentioned Jordan not even seeing the field…..well he finally got to see the field and I think the Texans have another solid TE for the future. Enough so that I thought the Texans could’ve tried to get something for Brown and let Jordan start his game experience development.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I think Tyrod comes out and plays well this week. The offense is productive against this defense and we’ll have to temper our expectations going forward and realize the Dolphins are a dumpster fire just like the Texans.
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The QB playing well may have little to do with a win if you look at the fact that our D has been quite responsible for the Texans having been outscored 100-30 in the last three weeks (that includes the soft 2nd half circumstances we were given last game).
 
thunderkyss said:
I think all the guys brought in on one year deals are being evaluated to see if an extension will be offered to them & if so how much?

Maybe the Texans feel Mills is not the answer. They draft another QB to compete for the 2nd spot.
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Ok I see, makes sense.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
It was Brevin Jordan, the rookie, who finally got to see the field. I mentioned a few games ago that I thought Caserio’s picks were pretty good based on where he had to start his draft. Then someone mentioned Jordan not even seeing the field…..well he finally got to see the field and I think the Texans have another solid TE for the future. Enough so that I thought the Texans could’ve tried to get something for Brown and let Jordan start his game experience development.
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Amazing how you can come to that conclusion after seeing 15 snaps. Especially since the Texans apparently couldn't see it for 7 weeks. They don't call you Optimistic Texan for nothing.
 
Speedy said:
Amazing how you can come to that conclusion after seeing 15 snaps. Especially since the Texans apparently couldn't see it for 7 weeks. They don't call you Optimistic Texan for nothing.
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I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
 
badboy said:
even if untradeable does Taylor and projected players for future need time together? I still think he is our QB 2022.
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IDEXAN said:
Ok I see, makes sense.
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Playing Taylor now still doesn't make sense to me. Are the Texans developing an offense around Tyrod Taylor? If Taylor is the Texans QB in 2022, he's still a placeholder for a team going nowhere.
 
Lucky said:
Playing Taylor now still doesn't make sense to me. Are the Texans developing an offense around Tyrod Taylor? If Taylor is the Texans QB in 2022, he's still a placeholder for a team going nowhere.
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You got it! He is a placeholder and that is exactly what we need at this particular time as there are no other QBs for us in 2022 as I see it. As TK says as long as he's paid as a placeholder that's cool. Since Davis Mills is on the team I would rather him be learning without the opportunity to get his organs removed. He can be the backup quarterback for the remainder of his contract minimum.

Edit, placeholder is good terminology for laremy tunsil in my opinion and he is making much more dinero.
 
TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
His point may be that he does not see the upside so many of you on this forum see. I know I don't see it.
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I get this sentiment and you have every right to feel this way. I choose to hope Caserio builds a great team . Do think it's going to happen? Get back with me in a couple of years and I will be to have a better idea of the vision Caserio has and if the talent he brings in is an up and coming team. Or if this is the same old turd sandwich or not.
 
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