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2021 Senior Bowl thread

Won't see a lot of 1st rounders in this game. But plenty of mid and late round guys (where the Texans are selecting).



Looked in the usual places, but couldn't find the weigh-in numbers.



BP's Top 100 Movie List Challenge #94: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,  by Sarah Brinks - Battleship Pretension


Perusing those rosters just now, I could hear Newman's voice asking that fateful question, over and over again, as he and Sundance were running for their lives !
 
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BP's Top 100 Movie List Challenge #94: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,  by Sarah Brinks - Battleship Pretension's Top 100 Movie List Challenge #94: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,  by Sarah Brinks - Battleship Pretension


Perusing those rosters just now, I could hear Newman's voice asking that fateful question, over and over again, as he and Sundance were running for their lives !

Rhey don't appear to have the numbers listed yet

 
I can speak on two of the UH players.

Grant Stuard: (LB) If drafted, would be a special teams player. I have honestly never seen a player hustle on every play harder than Grant does. He is the ultimate over-achiever.

Marquez Stevenson: (WR) Probably a late mid-round to late round pick: Earned the nickname Speedy from his teammates. Dangerous return threat.
 
I can speak on two of the UH players.

Grant Stuard: (LB) If drafted, would be a special teams player. I have honestly never seen a player hustle on every play harder than Grant does. He is the ultimate over-achiever.

Marquez Stevenson: (WR) Probably a late mid-round to late round pick: Earned the nickname Speedy from his teammates. Dangerous return threat.

What about the Edge Payton Turner?
 
What about the Edge Payton Turner?
I was reading through some practice notes and apparently Turner impressed some. At least he did in one of the articles I read.

I went back and checked. It’s the professional football network article on the American team for the senior bowl practices.
 
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What about the Edge Payton Turner?
Geez, I overlooked Payton Turner. Yeah, he's got the length and good speed off the snap for sure. Can also drop back in coverage in some cases although he may not be asked to do that in the NFL. He should be drafted, not certain what round though.
 
Geez, I overlooked Payton Turner. Yeah, he's got the length and good speed off the snap for sure. Can also drop back in coverage in some cases although he may not be asked to do that in the NFL. He should be drafted, not certain what round though.

What do you think about the Texans drafting him and using him as an edge like they us Mercilus?

I haven't seen him play.
 
What do you think about the Texans drafting him and using him as an edge like they us Mercilus?

I haven't seen him play.
Payton could probably play different positions on the line depending on the situation. He played both edge and in some cases the interior at UH. Like I said before, he's good at dropping back in coverage on plays. In the NFL, I would see him more on the edge. He could fill the shoes of Mercilus.
 
Bummed to read that Virginia LB Charles Snowden (6-7 @ 240 lbs) was in a walking boot and will be out another 3 weeks. Guy can play and he's got the fluid hips and sped to cover. He's an edge guy with cover ability. Another guy I'd like to see in a Texans uniform after the draft.
he is very interesting player and I had mocked him in round four but now feel we need other positional guys.
 
he is very interesting player and I had mocked him in round four but now feel we need other positional guys.

Texans are going to need those extra picks from trades. I'd really like to hear that Caserio is filling out his staff and scouting department.....but no news yet.
 
Watching the game and the 2 Smiths as edges have really stood out. Ellerson/Jordan.

Good CB's with Melifonwu making alot of plays. A trade happens and the Texans have a pick at 22 he would be a great pick.

If no trade is made I really like Keith Taylor who has been very sticky in coverage at the top of the 4th rd.
 
Lots of good mid-round WRs in this game.

Josh Palmer - Physical with good speed and agility
Dez Fitzpatrick - Similar to Palmer with even better hands
Amari Rodgers - The kind of slot WR the Texans have spent numerous picks trying to find
Frank Darby - Sneaky speed WR that can really track the ball
 
I would like to target any of the following players after this week:

Quinn Meinerz C
Keith Taylor CB
Deonte Brown iOL
Josh Palmer WR
Amari Rodgers WR
Dez Fitzpatrick WR
Benjamin St- Juste CB
Elerson Smith DL
Cameron Sample DL
 
I would like to target any of the following players after this week:

Quinn Meinerz C
Keith Taylor CB
Deonte Brown iOL
Josh Palmer WR
Amari Rodgers WR
Dez Fitzpatrick WR
Benjamin St- Juste CB
Elerson Smith DL
Cameron Sample DL

After watching this game guys I like in the 3rd threw 5th rd.

Ellerson Smith
Jordan Smith
Keith Taylor
Kylin Hill
Josh Palmer
Marquez Stephenson
Adrien Ealy
Ambry Thomas
St. Juste
 
Amazing to me seeing who folks here are targeting compared to other teams boards. Unquestionably disappointed the position Cal McNair enabled O’Brian to empty the cupboards both in the now and future. Coupled with mismanagement post firing of HC/GM.

texans are in a shitty, shitty hole.
 
Amazing to me seeing who folks here are targeting compared to other teams boards. Unquestionably disappointed the position Cal McNair enabled O’Brian to empty the cupboards both in the now and future. Coupled with mismanagement post firing of HC/GM.

texans are in a shitty, shitty hole.

That they will be out of in 2 yrs.

What players are you looking at for the Texans?
 
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That they will be out of in 2 yrs.

What players are you looking at for the Texans?

Some of us have already been out two years. So your asking to be patient four years just for normalization of operations?

I choose instead to just let it wash over me and let things grow organically in all things NFL. Not setting out to find another team but that’s exactly what happened.

I’m enjoying the draft process again, building a competent coaching staff, free agency and off season moves. Purely entertainment purposes only but it’s just such a welcome relief from this Purgatory inflicted on Texans fans. God bless you, and all those strong enough to endure this very painful process but that’s not me, not any longer.

Best wishes forward Texan fans!
 
Some of us have already been out two years. So your asking to be patient four years just for normalization of operations?

I choose instead to just let it wash over me and let things grow organically in all things NFL. Not setting out to find another team but that’s exactly what happened.

I’m enjoying the draft process again, building a competent coaching staff, free agency and off season moves. Purely entertainment purposes only but it’s just such a welcome relief from this Purgatory inflicted on Texans fans. God bless you, and all those strong enough to endure this very painful process but that’s not me, not any longer.

Best wishes forward Texan fans!

Yep, if you're a Texans fan it is what it is.

This team has been screwed up long before BOB signed on with the team. Now it appears that the new regime is going through some of the same things. This is all on the McNairs make no mistake about this.

What team are you rooting now?
 
Yep, if you're a Texans fan it is what it is.

This team has been screwed up long before BOB signed on with the team. Now it appears that the new regime is going through some of the same things. This is all on the McNairs make no mistake about this.

What team are you rooting now?

a very exciting, young team with a rookie of the year QB on the cheap. New defensive minded coach with great offensive minded assistant coaches. A beast DL coach and all their picks and extra 3rd. Having a franchise QB @ low rookie contract is something Texans need to give them cap relief and flexibility. If Cassero trades Watson it better be for a high first and second, a stud CB or defensive starter and a first next year.

I’ll always hope for the best here but since 1973 when the Chargers drafted Dan Fouts, being from Eugene and the U of O, once they drafted Herbert, it caught my attention. Brandon Staley is an absolute stud young coach, Texans had a chance to hire but really showed they don’t understand analytics, how to develop and treat players, in general how to win in this league.

Best trade for Watson would be for the Jags #1 overall (Texans draft Trevor Lawrence) and Jags 2nd. Rebuild with fresh start and cap room.
 
a very exciting, young team with a rookie of the year QB on the cheap. New defensive minded coach with great offensive minded assistant coaches. A beast DL coach and all their picks and extra 3rd. Having a franchise QB @ low rookie contract is something Texans need to give them cap relief and flexibility. If Cassero trades Watson it better be for a high first and second, a stud CB or defensive starter and a first next year.

I’ll always hope for the best here but since 1973 when the Chargers drafted Dan Fouts, being from Eugene and the U of O, once they drafted Herbert, it caught my attention. Brandon Staley is an absolute stud young coach, Texans had a chance to hire but really showed they don’t understand analytics, how to develop and treat players, in general how to win in this league.

Best trade for Watson would be for the Jags #1 overall (Texans draft Trevor Lawrence) and Jags 2nd. Rebuild with fresh start and cap room.

You know I wanted the Texans to trade DW4 for Herbert last offseason and people thought I was crazy. I've loved Herbert for yrs. People questioned him because his teams didn't make the final 4 but he's as takented as any QB in the NFL and he's on his rookie deal. The Chargers are setup for many yrs of success if the Spanos dont screw it up.

It doesn't look so crazy now does it? BTW, I've got a longtime Texans season ticketholder friend of mine who graduated from U of O and is a huge fan. BTW, what do you think of Shough? He looked pretty good to me but a step below Herbert.

PM me a link to the Chargers MB and maybe we can talk over there.
 
a very exciting, young team with a rookie of the year QB on the cheap. New defensive minded coach with great offensive minded assistant coaches. A beast DL coach and all their picks and extra 3rd. Having a franchise QB @ low rookie contract is something Texans need to give them cap relief and flexibility. If Cassero trades Watson it better be for a high first and second, a stud CB or defensive starter and a first next year.

I’ll always hope for the best here but since 1973 when the Chargers drafted Dan Fouts, being from Eugene and the U of O, once they drafted Herbert, it caught my attention. Brandon Staley is an absolute stud young coach, Texans had a chance to hire but really showed they don’t understand analytics, how to develop and treat players, in general how to win in this league.

Best trade for Watson would be for the Jags #1 overall (Texans draft Trevor Lawrence) and Jags 2nd. Rebuild with fresh start and cap room.
In a heart beat. His analyses top Watson's by far. It is difficult to find fault in his game.

TREVOR LAWRENCE AS ADVERTISED AT PRO DAY

The 2021 draft news cycle got a kickstart this week with Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence staging his personal Pro Day at the Tigers’ indoor facility on Friday. And the supernova of a quarterback prospect touched all the bases in the hour or so that he and a group of 31 NFL evaluators, from 17 teams, were out there.

The day started with Clemson coach Dabo Swinney addressing the scouts and coaches, telling them what kind of kid the 21-year-old Lawrence is—“He isn’t marrying his high school sweetheart. He’s marrying his junior high sweetheart,” Swinney told them. It ended with Lawrence fist-bumping every NFL person he saw leaving the facility, while thanking them for coming, something they all took note of.

“Kid just gets it,” says a Clemson staffer, when I apprised him of that. “Every single bit of it.”

And in between Swinney’s words and Lawrence’s farewells was a performance that was short of perfect, but every bit as electric as you’d expect from a guy who’s been discussed in an NFL context since his senior year at Cartersville (Ga.) High.

“He was as impressive as advertised,” says one veteran evaluator in attendance. “The ball jumped out of his hand, even if it sailed on him a couple times. He throws with good base and balance, and he’s such a good athlete for his size. To see a guy at 6-foot-6, with that kind of foot quickness and agility is really, really impressive.

“It’s really a combination of the physical ability and everything you hear about his intangibles, how good a person he is, how smart he is, what a great decision-maker he is. That physical skill set, and the intangibles, and coach Swinney let everyone know what kind of kid he is.”

And this particular evaluator adds, “His best throw was his last throw, obviously they were showing him push it down the field. But in general, really good throws outside the numbers, that ball was tight, you could see it spinning so tight out of his hand. The couple times it sailed, he got a little loose. But that’s very nitpicky. It was a really strong workout.”

“Really good day overall,” says a second evaluator who was there. “Everything he showed on tape showed up in the Pro Day. He’s big, athletic, he can throw from the pocket, he can throw on the run going either direction. He’s accurate to all levels. … A little bit [imperfect], there were a couple things. The final deep ball was great. The other two weren’t his best throws. … A couple to his left just sailed on him a little.

“But the only guy out there who he played with was [Cornell] Powell. He just got to work with the other guys recently. It was really good overall. The dude showed why he’s going first overall.”

This evaluator added that even in the limited rough spots, “He was unfazed with the incompletions, whether it was his fault or not. He has great presence, a great demeanor, and an ability to interact with all the people there.”

Also in attendance was his next head coach, Urban Meyer, who Lawrence had actually consulted with on whether or not he should go through with the Pro Day. The decision to do it this early was connected to a call to have a torn labrum in his left (non-throwing) shoulder surgically repaired ahead of his NFL career starting.

Meyer laid out three scenarios for Lawrence. He could delay the surgery to allow for him to throw to his own receivers at Clemson’s Pro Day on March 11. He could just eschew throwing all together, since he didn’t really have much to prove in order to be the first pick in April. Or he could try and put together an early Pro Day, without as much prep, and with a scramble for receivers (ex-Jets/Clemson WR Charone Peake and ex-Niners practice-squad WR Chris Finke were lining up alongside Powell).

“He said, ‘Let’s go’,” Meyer told NFL Network’s Jane Slater after the Pro Day. “That’s a guy that loves football.”

It’s also a guy who’ll be a Jaguar in two months. But you knew that already—and so did the 28 NFL guys who were there from other teams. What those guys did walk away with was a little more context on where Lawrence stacks up historically as a prospect, as well as a visual setting of the bar for their trips to BYU (Zach Wilson), Ohio State (Justin Fields) and North Dakota State (Trey Lance) to see the quarterbacks who’ve spent the last couple years chasing No. 16.

“You hear everyone talk about generational talent,” says the second evaluator, “well, the only one I’ve studied who’s like him is Andrew Luck. Between those two, I’d rank Andrew slightly ahead of Trevor. But it’s close.”

Which is why we can say now, on February 15, that the first few minutes of draft night won’t bring any surprises.
 
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