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NFL passed a significant test in dealing with the coronavirus. Tests on all Houston Texans and Kansas City Chiefs players, coaches and team employees from Week 1 came back negative this week, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

These were the first tests to come back from the regular season. The Texans and Chiefs kicked off the season Sept. 10 in Kansas City, with the Chiefs winning 34-20.
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Well that's atleast one accomplishment of sorts.
 
In week 1, 12 WRs had 10 or more targets. Leading this group was Hopkins getting targeted 16 times and Davante Adams getting 17 targets.

Random thought of the day. Do fans of other teams worry about target distribution among the WR group like we did with Hopkins? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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In game 1, 12 WRs had 10 or more targets. Leading this group was Hopkins getting targeted 16 times and Davante Adams getting 17 targets.

Random thought of the day. Do fans of other teams worry about target distribution among the WR group like we did with Hopkins? Inquiring minds want to know.
I doubt it.
 
NFL passed a significant test in dealing with the coronavirus. Tests on all Houston Texans and Kansas City Chiefs players, coaches and team employees from Week 1 came back negative this week, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

These were the first tests to come back from the regular season. The Texans and Chiefs kicked off the season Sept. 10 in Kansas City, with the Chiefs winning 34-20.
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Well that's atleast one accomplishment of sorts.
We're number one! We are number one! We are number one!
 
BO'b on the active roster means Texans screwed this game and every season he is here and for many years after he leaves. Only one improvement on this team from when he inherited it, QB. Every other position you can say we are worse. Plus we have less cap space and draft picks. What a complete disaster. McNair wake up!!!!!!!!!!
 
I don’t like the way it looks, but BO’b & DW4 win a lot of games.
Before BO'b became GM they did win meaningless games but no hop will make a difference. Let's keep track of all the games they win from the beginning of this season till hell freezes over which will be when bo'b gets fired or McNair sells team and new owner fires Bill.
 
What year of the rebuild are we on or does it get reset this year?
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We are still in the early stages of total destruction by GM BOB and McDead.

"O'Brien has been serving as the de facto general manager since the team fired Brian Gaine last June. Chris Olsen was given the interim general manager title, but O'Brien had final say over all football-related moves."

So based on this O'Brien has been in charge officially for 15 months or 7 months based on how you wish to look at it.
Just look at the damage he has done in the very short time he has been Gm. Fricking amazing the long term damage he has done.
If I was a conspiracist I would say BOB's goal is to destroy the Texans franchise but this is just BOB being BOB.........

Or maybe this is like the movie "MAJOR LEAGUE" and ......
 
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We are still in the early stages of total destruction by GM BOB and McDead.

"O'Brien has been serving as the de facto general manager since the team fired Brian Gaine last June. Chris Olsen was given the interim general manager title, but O'Brien had final say over all football-related moves."

So based on this O'Brien has been in charge officially for 15 months or 7 months based on how you wish to look at it.
Just look at the damage he has done in the very short time he has been Gm. Fricking amazing the long term damage he has done.
If I was a conspiracist I would say BOB's goal is to destroy the Texans franchise but this is just BOB being BOB.........

Or maybe this is like the movie "MAJOR LEAGUE" and ......

All is not lost, when BOB's fired there will be a total rebuild. Like there should've been yrs ago. They will trade off guys like Miami has done. This needs to happen because this rosters talent level is slightly above avg (Just like their HC/QB) at best. Certainly not on a championship level.
 

Lots has happened since then................Dec 2015, he suffered an ACL rupture.........he wasn't activated during the 2016 season until Nov after which he was active for only 4 games, collecting only 1 reception for 20 yds.................then the end off April 2017, suffered another ACL rupture of the same knee and missed the entire season.
 
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Lots has happened since then................Dec 2015, he suffered an ACL rupture.........he wasn't activated during the 2016 season until Nov after which he was active for only 4 games, collecting only 1 reception for 20 yds.................then the end off April 2017, suffered another ACL rupture of the same knee and missed the entire season.
So you are saying he still averages 20 yards per catch in the NFL, we got a winner!
 
My random thought of the day? BOB sucks, as a coach and GM. Should have never traded DHop. Got hosed on the DHop deal. Gave up too much for Tunsil. O line is trash. Defense blows. Our receivers aren't good. Watson will regress under BOB. We have all these fast receivers, but Watson has no time to wait for long routes or plays develop. I'll add to this as I think of more, this is just off the top of my head.
 
All is not lost, when BOB's fired there will be a total rebuild. Like there should've been yrs ago. They will trade off guys like Miami has done. This needs to happen because this rosters talent level is slightly above avg (Just like their HC/QB) at best. Certainly not on a championship level.

The only thing I'd have to disagree with is your statement "All is not lost", simply because I have seen absolutely nothing in the McNairs to suggest they will hire competent football people at any level for front office and coaching positions.

They'll most likely do something utterly stupid like put Easterby in charge as GM, because he makes them feel happy with his shiny platitudes.
 
Texans' Bill O'Brien on Lonnie Johnson Jr.: 'I like Lonnie at safety'
Aaron Wilson Sep. 21, 2020


The Texans drafted Lonnie Johnson Jr., in the second round last year with hopes that he would provide a physical, speedy presence as an outside corner.

Now, the Texans are having Johnson play safety. He got a lot of playing time as a deep safety during a 33-16 loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday and recorded three tackles.

At 6-2, 213 pounds with 4.38 speed in the 40-yard dash, Johnson is a big defensive back with an aggressive style.

"I like Lonnie at safety," Texans coach and general manager Bill O'Brien said Monday. "I think Lonnie has the size and ability to play safety. He's a good tackler. He's an instinctive player.

"I think he did some good things at safety and I think he'll get better and better doing that. He can obviously still play corner and help us in that area, too. He's got versatility. I thought he did some good things at safety."

As a rookie, Johnson displayed flashes of potential and a hard-hitting style. In 14 games and seven starts last season, Johnson recorded 41 tackles with seven passes defended and no interceptions. He also was flagged for 10 penalties.

Johnson said during training camp that he is comfortable lining up wherever the Texans want to deploy him.

“I play DB for the Texans, I just don’t play corner,” Johnson said. “Like OB said, I can do a lot of things, so I just play DB for the Texans. That’s just my title.”

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So I read in the other thread Fuller is on the injury report with a hamstring. Couple that with Coutee finding his way back to the dog house, and minimal production from Cooks, Cobb, and Stills, makes the loss of DHop sting that much more. Not to mention, not one receiver on the Texans roster has even half of the receptions or yards DHop has had this season. Way to go BOB...
 
The only thing I'd have to disagree with is your statement "All is not lost", simply because I have seen absolutely nothing in the McNairs to suggest they will hire competent football people at any level for front office and coaching positions.

They'll most likely do something utterly stupid like put Easterby in charge as GM, because he makes them feel happy with his shiny platitudes.

Remember when I was saying this back in 2010 and the heat I took for my opinion?

Same.things going on with DW4 and his play. Really just like back in 2010 the McNairs made choices, 1. Hire/ promote BOB. 2. Draft a face of the franchise QB, find out he's avg and give him a cap killing contract.

History with the McNairs repeating itself. Many of the same things that were said about Carr (excuses) are being said about DW4 today.
 
Remember when I was saying this back in 2010 and the heat I took for my opinion?

Same.things going on with DW4 and his play. Really just like back in 2010 the McNairs made choices, 1. Hire/ promote BOB. 2. Draft a face of the franchise QB, find out he's avg and give him a cap killing contract.

History with the McNairs repeating itself. Many of the same things that were said about Carr (excuses) are being said about DW4 today.

You also said it would take 3 years to rebuild the team after RS left and good times where ahead. You say alot of things.
 
So I read in the other thread Fuller is on the injury report with a hamstring. Couple that with Coutee finding his way back to the dog house, and minimal production from Cooks, Cobb, and Stills, makes the loss of DHop sting that much more. Not to mention, not one receiver on the Texans roster has even half of the receptions or yards DHop has had this season. Way to go BOB...
Not exactly..........at least not formally on any injury report, yet.

Fuller appeared on the Injury Report last week Friday for the first time................as ''DID NOT PRACTICE''.........''NOT INJURY RELATED.''

I find this report disingenuous in that he had very limited snaps with NO targets in the Ravens game.........and was receiving hamstring treatments on the sidelines, despite the injury never being reported.
 
My random thought of the day? BOB sucks, as a coach and GM. Should have never traded DHop. Got hosed on the DHop deal. Gave up too much for Tunsil. O line is trash. Defense blows. Our receivers aren't good. Watson will regress under BOB. We have all these fast receivers, but Watson has no time to wait for long routes or plays develop. I'll add to this as I think of more, this is just off the top of my head.
Well at least you are optimistic!
 
Texans' Bill O'Brien on Lonnie Johnson Jr.: 'I like Lonnie at safety'
Aaron Wilson Sep. 21, 2020


Now, the Texans are having Johnson play safety. He got a lot of playing time as a deep safety during a 33-16 loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday and recorded three tackles.

At 6-2, 213 pounds with 4.38 speed in the 40-yard dash, Johnson is a big defensive back with an aggressive style.

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No way Lonnie Johnson ran a 4.38 40-yd dash...he must be the underoos king cause he damn sure doesn't look that fast on the field.
 
So far this year, it appears the defense has the heart but lacks the talent to be better. The offense lacks the heart but has the talent to be much better.

If the offense can play with urgency and execute with precision, I think the Texans could win 9 to 10 games. Of course, the coaches have to give them a chance to succeed. They have to adjust. They have to quit being so hard-headed and adjust their scheme to fit the players they have. It just looks to me that the players, specifically the quarterback, has no input into the game plan.
 
So far this year, it appears the defense has the heart but lacks the talent to be better. The offense lacks the heart but has the talent to be much better.

If the offense can play with urgency and execute with precision, I think the Texans could win 9 to 10 games. Of course, the coaches have to give them a chance to succeed. They have to adjust. They have to quit being so hard-headed and adjust their scheme to fit the players they have. It just looks to me that the players, specifically the quarterback, has no input into the game plan.

More excuses

I'm fairly certain DW4 tells BOB/Kelly what his favorite plays to run are. Just like all HC/QB relationships are.
 
So far this year, it appears the defense has the heart but lacks the talent to be better. The offense lacks the heart but has the talent to be much better.

To me, it's looking like the old teams we've had where the defense gives up because the offense can't do crap.

23 points through three qtrs allowed.. & our offense can't stay on the field, much less score.
 
Remember when I was saying this back in 2010 and the heat I took for my opinion?

Same.things going on with DW4 and his play. Really just like back in 2010 the McNairs made choices, 1. Hire/ promote BOB. 2. Draft a face of the franchise QB, find out he's avg and give him a cap killing contract.

History with the McNairs repeating itself. Many of the same things that were said about Carr (excuses) are being said about DW4 today.

We've both taken some heat about our McNair takes over the years when we get past the eternally grateful aspect of Bob McNair's ownership.

I knew we had a snake for an owner when he sent his personal jet to pick up Ed Reed and Wade did not even know about it. I had suspected before, but this was confirmation of a meddling owner. (The DC-requirement to hire Kubiak was the beginning of my suspicions, iirc. . .)

You also said it would take 3 years to rebuild the team after RS left and good times where ahead. You say alot of things.

Well, they are getting blown out in the 2nd round of the playoffs now instead of the first. . .so there's that. :peek:
 
The 4.39 was at his pro day IIRC and surprised Heck out of me.
You are correct. But I have learned to discount (or at least devalue) a Pro Day 40 time, especially when there is a Combine time available. I read this article a while back [especially note the specifically identified error level covered later in the ''THE REST OF THE STORY'' of the article...........which would exactly account for the difference in Johnson's 2 times].

Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash

AN OBJECTIVE STUDY TO MEASURE THE DIFFERENCES…

Michael Weinstein (Zybek Sports – Boulder, Colorado)

An athlete’s physical performance test results provide an important specification that often determines their future. Small differences in these performance numbers can make big differences in their career.
The standard “Combine” tests have been the gold standard for objectively evaluating and comparing individual athletic performance.

The annual NFL Scouting Combine is a vivid example of the importance athletic performance numbers are for teams and the general public. The 2013 NFL Scouting combine had over 7.25 million viewers(1), and an athlete’s vertical jump and 40 yard dash times are discussion topics on countless TV programs, radio shows and water-cooler banter across America.

For the professional athletes, their performance numbers measured at a combine often follow them for the remainder of their carrier. These performance numbers are extremely important objective measures of an athlete’s training and natural-athletic capability.

The purpose of this paper is to:
Provide an objective analysis that quantifies the differences between a hand-timed and fully automated timed 40 yard dash.
Hand Timing versus Fully Automated electronic timing:

Hand Timing:
Historically, coaches have used a hand-held stopwatch for measuring the 40-yard dash. Typically, the timing coach will stand at the 40-yard line.

When the athlete leaves the starting line, the coach depresses the stop watch start button. When the athlete crosses the 40 yard line, the coach stops the time by pressing the same button. The time displayed on the stopwatch then becomes the athlete’s 40 yard dash time.

Fully Automated Timing (FAT):

Several different Fully Automated Timing methodologies are used in the industry whereby the actions of the athlete will start the time and stop the time.

To stop the timer, an electronic sensor which is viewing a special, non-visible light is often used. When the athlete’s body blocks the light, the sensor sends a signal to the timing unit to signify an athlete has run past the line. This can happen in less than 0.0001 seconds, and these are typically referred to as ‘laser’ sensors.

Several different options are available to determine when the athlete starts the run, including:…
  • Pressure pad at the start line: A signal is provided to the timing unit to start the time when the pressure on the pad has been removed.
  • Positioning a ‘laser’ sensor in front of the athlete: When the light in this sensor is interrupted by the athlete’s body, the time starts.
  • Positioning a ‘laser’ sensor at the start line: A signal is provided to the electronic timing system when the laser is not blocked.
The time result of a FAT 40 yard will almost always be greater than a hand timed 40 yard. In other words, the same person will have a ‘slower’ 40 yard dash result if they are timed using a fully automated system than a hand-timed 40 yard dash.

The majority of the time difference between the FAT and Hand timed 40-yard dash comes from the inherent human delay of starting the timer after the athlete initiates the run.

In other words, the athlete will have started the run before the coach can depress the start button. Thereby, the hand-timed numbers always appear to be “faster” than electronic times. Furthermore, compounding the inherent variability of the hand-started times are differences between athletes, coaches, time of day, weather conditions, etc.

Although it is generally acknowledged by professionals that hand measured times are always “faster” than actual or electronic times, there have been very few disciplined studies conducted to objectively quantify

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You are correct. But I have learned to discount (or at least devalue) a Pro Day 40 time, especially when there is a Combine time available. I read this article a while back [especially note the specifically identified error level covered later in the ''THE REST OF THE STORY'' of the article...........which would exactly account for the difference in Johnson's 2 times].

Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash

AN OBJECTIVE STUDY TO MEASURE THE DIFFERENCES…

Michael Weinstein (Zybek Sports – Boulder, Colorado)

An athlete’s physical performance test results provide an important specification that often determines their future. Small differences in these performance numbers can make big differences in their career.
The standard “Combine” tests have been the gold standard for objectively evaluating and comparing individual athletic performance.

The annual NFL Scouting Combine is a vivid example of the importance athletic performance numbers are for teams and the general public. The 2013 NFL Scouting combine had over 7.25 million viewers(1), and an athlete’s vertical jump and 40 yard dash times are discussion topics on countless TV programs, radio shows and water-cooler banter across America.

For the professional athletes, their performance numbers measured at a combine often follow them for the remainder of their carrier. These performance numbers are extremely important objective measures of an athlete’s training and natural-athletic capability.

The purpose of this paper is to:

Hand Timing versus Fully Automated electronic timing:

Hand Timing:
Historically, coaches have used a hand-held stopwatch for measuring the 40-yard dash. Typically, the timing coach will stand at the 40-yard line.

When the athlete leaves the starting line, the coach depresses the stop watch start button. When the athlete crosses the 40 yard line, the coach stops the time by pressing the same button. The time displayed on the stopwatch then becomes the athlete’s 40 yard dash time.

Fully Automated Timing (FAT):

Several different Fully Automated Timing methodologies are used in the industry whereby the actions of the athlete will start the time and stop the time.

To stop the timer, an electronic sensor which is viewing a special, non-visible light is often used. When the athlete’s body blocks the light, the sensor sends a signal to the timing unit to signify an athlete has run past the line. This can happen in less than 0.0001 seconds, and these are typically referred to as ‘laser’ sensors.

Several different options are available to determine when the athlete starts the run, including:…
  • Pressure pad at the start line: A signal is provided to the timing unit to start the time when the pressure on the pad has been removed.
  • Positioning a ‘laser’ sensor in front of the athlete: When the light in this sensor is interrupted by the athlete’s body, the time starts.
  • Positioning a ‘laser’ sensor at the start line: A signal is provided to the electronic timing system when the laser is not blocked.
The time result of a FAT 40 yard will almost always be greater than a hand timed 40 yard. In other words, the same person will have a ‘slower’ 40 yard dash result if they are timed using a fully automated system than a hand-timed 40 yard dash.

The majority of the time difference between the FAT and Hand timed 40-yard dash comes from the inherent human delay of starting the timer after the athlete initiates the run.

In other words, the athlete will have started the run before the coach can depress the start button. Thereby, the hand-timed numbers always appear to be “faster” than electronic times. Furthermore, compounding the inherent variability of the hand-started times are differences between athletes, coaches, time of day, weather conditions, etc.

Although it is generally acknowledged by professionals that hand measured times are always “faster” than actual or electronic times, there have been very few disciplined studies conducted to objectively quantify

THE REST OF THE STORY
Yep
 
Any worry that 2021’s 1st round pick is under threat if a cornerback becomes available?

Edit I mean 2022 rather than 21.
 
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