TexansBull
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Reading is so hard. I started typing a reply, then reread your post and noticed the word “not”, as in “not as good”. That is a big word to miss.
Smh @TexansBull. Go back to 3rd grade.
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Reading is so hard. I started typing a reply, then reread your post and noticed the word “not”, as in “not as good”. That is a big word to miss.
Smh @TexansBull. Go back to 3rd grade.
Accuracy =/= Completion percentage.
This video may help you understand.
In other words, you have to include drops.
Allen's adjusted completion percentage, is top half of the league last time I looked:
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Uncle Rico
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Look at the IAY column (Intended Air Yard per attempt).
Allen ranked third (tied with Wilson).
He was throwing it downfield.
Also, the Bills were second worse in dropped passes.
Those don't help a QB's completion percentage.
his 'on target and catchable rate' percentages have not improved from last year though. Throwing it deep for the heck of it is one thing. Throwing it deep with intent (Deshaun Watson) is another.
edit: using the "his receivers dropped too many balls" argument will only help Deshaun Watsons case as well .. just to keep things level.
TexansBull
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I am holding my left pectoral muscle during the game hoping JJ Watt’s holds together too.
Uncle Rico
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Buffalo as an offensive line unit was ranked 16th in run plays and 23rd in pass protection. Houston was ranked 22nd in run blocking and 27th in pass protection.
2019 NFL OFFENSIVE LINE RATINGS | Football Outsiders
Regular season totals, playoffs not included Revised as of 3/29/2020 Teams are ranked according to Adjusted Line Yards. Based on regression analysis, the Adjusted Line Yards formula takes all running back carries and assigns responsibility to the offensive line based on the following percentages:
Uncle Rico
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This game will not be decided by what Josh Allen does. It will be decided by what Deshaun Watson does.
powda
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Insane amount of drops there. Allen has an absolute howitzer for an arm. Damn.
The Texans were only worse than 8 or 9 teams in dropped passes.
It's a mistake to think of Allen as a game manager.
He never was at Wyoming and never was in the NFL.
I agree with TK here.
He's a playmaker.
He's very efficient on 3rd or 4th and a yard or so just because of his length and his strength.
Same thing near the goal line.
The guy had scored 9 TDs on the ground.
He's a better runner than at least 2/3rd of the QBs in the league.
Great agility for a big man.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I'll be looking for the match up between Allen running and Cunningham tracking him down.
FBO pass block ranking is not accurate.Buffalo as an offensive line unit was ranked 16th in run plays and 23rd in pass protection. Houston was ranked 22nd in run blocking and 27th in pass protection.
2019 NFL OFFENSIVE LINE RATINGS | Football Outsiders
Regular season totals, playoffs not included Revised as of 3/29/2020 Teams are ranked according to Adjusted Line Yards. Based on regression analysis, the Adjusted Line Yards formula takes all running back carries and assigns responsibility to the offensive line based on the following percentages:www.footballoutsiders.com
They don't have a clear formula to assign blames.
And didn't you hear how steelb had proclaimed that the Texans line is quite better than last year?
All I can say that they're not 27th in pass pro.
Same problem with Watson; if we have a LB spying on him, it takes away a defender on the other 5 guys.
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Uncle Rico
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I thought that before i took the deep dive over the last few days. he is not a playmaker like Deshaun Watson for sure. He makes the right plays, but he doesnt play on instinct. He's not a bad QB by any means, but he's not a guy who Im still worried about beating us single handedly like some of the other playoff QBs. This game will come down to Deshaun and OBrien being able to move the ball against the strength of Buffalo - their defense.
Pardon me if I take his Wyoming and first year stats with a grain of sand. Surely they dont even come close to what Watson did in college.
His biggest impression left on me was the ability to extend plays/drives with his legs and the ability to keep it together against good defenses. He's not out there dictating the flow of the game. He's running the plays the coach wants, and making the smart play.
Maybe he'll change my mind today.
You may have missed it, but there is an article floating around (football outsiders) of how he cant throw deep and cant handle the blitz, or thread the needle in man coverage.
"Josh Allen is a playmaker, every bit as much as Deshaun Watson"
You misunderstand me. My statement says exactly what you reference Pro Football Focus to say.
He's a play maker, like Watson. Just not nearly as good.
He's not a ball distributor, put the ball in the hands of the play makers game manager.
He's one of two play makers on that offense.
Uncle Rico
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seen it. seen his highlights. seen his 'lowlights'. pulled up the passing charts. heat index. all that. I started my research with those very same feelings, and Im left relieved honestly. Buffalo had the 3rd easiest strength of schedule!! I applaud Allen for playing well against some good defenses, and his mobility is impressive, but Im not ready to cower to his QB talent.
RAC should be able to dial up some press man blitz and confuse the young guy. He is atrocious against the blitz, cant throw an accurate deep ball and I feel alot better than I did on Monday.
You guys can keep pumping him up and being worried. This is his first playoff game!! Im feeling good.
Like I said HOU will lose if Obrien/Watson stink up the joint. We wont get blown out by Buffalo's offense.
Oddly, he might be the type of QB that OB wants. (I think)
And he doesn't have the weapons that Watson does..
I agree with this. I wouldn't spy him & I'd have my ends set the edge first & foremost. Force him to run north & south & don't let him make plays behind the LOS.
He's not Lamar Jackson. He's not going to win the game with his legs.
Uncle Rico
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I can see that. Makes the right play. Doesnt go off script. Tall. Strong arm. Smart kid. For this relic of an offensive system its kinda what you need. I dont know though, remember OBrien wanted Mahomes more than Watson and Mahomes is another dynamic type player.
at 6'5 I'd be wary of running as much as he does. You get one of those shorter defensive pit bulls get under them pads and it might be a wrap.
Funny thing is Daboll and OBrien are both New England Earhardt-Perkins guys so I will have a treat watching to see which coach runs it better!
Uncle Rico
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Brown is a good receiver, he jumped out on film. Cole Beasley will be the X FActor for Allen today over the middle. Singletary and Gore offer a nice 1-2 punch. They arent deplete of talent, but i would agree that they dont have Hopkins to throw to. I'd give our WR corp the advantage, but the OL/RB game is even.
I think we have a huge advantage in special teams believe it or not. We were ranked 3rd or 4th in special teams dvoa this year, with great coverage and the ability to pin teams deep and flipping fields.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
That's relevant as long as we're discussing the Bills offense. If we're gauging Allen fairly (which I thought posters were trying to do) then the drops matter.
Watch the video posted up thread. If wr's catch only a third of those well thrown passes I think people hold Allen in much higher regard.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Anyone that lives in Houston besides me sick to death of the "Houston we (you, them, whatever) have a problem" bullshit? I hate that ****, it irritates the crap out of me when that frigging stupid over used phrase is used. Every unoriginal thinking person on the planet seems to have to used it at least once.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I agree 1000%. I absolutely detest that statement when it comes to sports commentary. I have to stop myself from throwing things at the tv and I make a list of broadcasters I want to throat punch.
Its lazy, overused, and demeaning as a Houston fan. Somehow, they keep saying it because they think it's funny or clever. News flash. We've heard it hundreds of times over the years. Their color commentary is not original or groundbreaking. It's just douchery.
texan279
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I personally think it is the most overused phrase in history.
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Something Witty !
After watching game film of the Bills , Bill decides he likes the way they play offense and tries to copy them . This of course is advantage Buffalo but Bill believes he's on to something that's as pure as Lake Erie water .
If the Bills are that close talentwise on offense, the Texans are in big trouble.
Their D is miles ahead of ours.
And yes, the ST has to show up for the guys to pull this one out.
Or somebody (a few) need to step up somewhere, somehow.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
If I knew how to set up a thread with a poll, I would set up a new thread to call the first offensive player of the game. Two choices:
Run up the middle
Something else
Uncle Rico
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that’s the thing our D is good at the few little things that Allen struggles with. Man coverage. Exotic blitz looks. JJ Watt will inject that unit with much needed swagger. RAC was able to catch Tom Brady off guard with a brilliant game plan - he can do it to BUF & Allen in his very first playoff game.
if you gave Buffalo a chance to swap Allen for Watson would they do it?
Uncle Rico
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Stills better be the 2nd wideout. If he starts the game in the slot then OBrien is an imbecile.
Gave? As in the draft?
Most likely?
Now, I don't think so.
Even they both use the EP monenclature; the two offenses don't look the same.
All the other guys (and the coaches) have to get in sync with a new QB.
It looks to me they will add a receiver next year in the draft.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I hope the Texans beat the crap out of the Bills today. And for all my good friends and fellow OB haters, I do realize that means it actually helps OB. But I can't help it, I just don't want to lose to the Bills. I know we'll get our asses kicked in Baltimore, that's inevitable. What's also inevitable is that fricking no-account "run up the middle on the 1st play" OB will be back next year no matter what happens today.
Uncle Rico
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you can put AB on that team Allen still needs to hit him in stride. You can’t only be an intermediate QB.
OK, let's take the drops in consideration. According to NBC Sports, Buffalo had 26 drops. The NFL median was 18 drops. So Allen had one more drop every 2 games than the average QB. If we normalize drops where everfy QB gets the median amount, Allen's completion % jumps to 60.5%. That leap's him over Mayfield and Dalton (59.5%) and places Allen 30th in the league in completion percentage.
So let's just say Allen is the least accurate passer in the playoffs, rather than the least accurate passer in the NFL.
Uncle Rico
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You just wait and see.
you’re giving me anxiety because could he really? Eye test, metrics, casual, nerd the fact is when Watson doesn’t have a stretch option opposite to Hopkins this offense is trash as constructed. Play Carter in the slot. Cmon man this is basic stuff.
Bugman7star
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I feel the same way. I just want to get past the bills. I am tired of every week being made out to be the team that everyone thinks may as well not even show and play. We have some tough wins and losses. Every team in the postseason does. DW4 is due for a big game. I don't see him losing two postseason games in a row.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Other than OB, there is no reason at all the Texans should lose today.