maverick512000
Hall of Fame
No you always do this crap. You hear it from a reporter and then you state as 100% fact. They get it wrong ALL the time.
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Texans’ Frantic Trades Expose the Franchise’s Lack of Vision and Direction
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No you always do this crap. You hear it from a reporter and then you state as 100% fact. They get it wrong ALL the time.
Dishman
Miss Ya Blue
What is "frantic" about these trades? Clowney was rumored to be traded for a good bit. During that time it was mentioned Clowney for Tunsil had been discussed. A deal structured around Clowney and Tunsil couldn't be completed. The Texans moved on trading Clowney elsewhere then circled back around to take care of their LT need grabbing Tunsil as had been rumored, just not within the originally rumored structure.
Now, the FO has screwed up plenty recently and in the past. It's never been a strong point of the club. But I don't buy this narrative of frantic (wild, distraught) trades. The Tunsil trade was one of necessity. The Clowney trade was one of pigheadedness.
Now, the FO has screwed up plenty recently and in the past. It's never been a strong point of the club. But I don't buy this narrative of frantic (wild, distraught) trades. The Tunsil trade was one of necessity. The Clowney trade was one of pigheadedness.
BOBdaFRAUD
Waterboy
Cal, McNair Sr let this morron BOB drive this team into a ravine
Were now the poster child of a disaster team in the league.
So now here we are, lets roll................
Were now the poster child of a disaster team in the league.
So now here we are, lets roll................
Gonna be such a train wreck. This team isn't good on either side of the ball now.
O'Briens offense always sucks.
The defense lost clowney and matthie.
SMH.
Very fair to not trust coaching and putting players where they need to be. I’m with you on that
But, from what I’ve seen from the rookies so far, I think it’s safe to say we’ll at the very minimum get average play out of whatever two spots they man. And I do think that Fulton will end up being our starting center at some point this season. Martin hasn’t played well, and the two rookies and Fulton have played well enough that it’d be really hard to keep any of them off the field.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
Don't forget that he legitimately cost us several wins last year due to his penalties in crunchtime or boneheadedness (penalty WEARING STREET CLOTHES...that's a special type of retard there folks). We are not better on the defensive side of the ball but I don't think he was going to be the make or break part of the defense.
Surreal McCoy
Rookie
Reading is FUNdamental!
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Its already worse.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Disagree there. I think they'll have a good offense. To many weapons not to.
Their defense should have its ups and downs but they certainly won't be trash.
I just think that the team will lack direction, purpose, and discipline based on their HC.
Boris
All Pro
* BTW, Verlander pitching a no-hitter right now.
It's the 9th inning & Blue Jays are up.
http://www.720pstream.me/toronto-blue-jays-stream
It's the 9th inning & Blue Jays are up.
http://www.720pstream.me/toronto-blue-jays-stream
Well he'll, that's the only thing he's been good at.
cameronkrazie86
Rookie
Still can't believe they paid Seattle $7 million to take Clowney and all they got back was a 3rd round pick, a guy that was going to be cut and a rotational pass rusher. Garbage.
bah007
Hall of Fame
It's always a good idea to give a HC on the hot seat full team control. A guy with no stake in the franchise's future is definitely well equipped to make the best decisions.
Zero chance he will mortgage the team's future to save his own ass and go all in on one season to get himself off the hot seat.
We'll do just enough this season for OB to keep his job. And then when we can't fill holes in the future due to lack of assets everyone will magically forget that he's the one that traded everything away and he can start making excuses all over again.
I'm sure this will work out. Sacrificing long-term success for short-term goals always does...
Zero chance he will mortgage the team's future to save his own ass and go all in on one season to get himself off the hot seat.
We'll do just enough this season for OB to keep his job. And then when we can't fill holes in the future due to lack of assets everyone will magically forget that he's the one that traded everything away and he can start making excuses all over again.
I'm sure this will work out. Sacrificing long-term success for short-term goals always does...
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Also what if the team wants to fire him? They have to sit back and ask themselves "who is going to come here and take over after the mess we have with no draft picks and a butchered salary cap?" The list of HC candidates will easily diminish in quality, and they'll likely figure that it would be best to keep OB since he created this mess. This move definitely created a much bigger attachment to OB to where the franchise will feel more stuck having to keep him to manage what he built until we have cap space and draft picks again. I don't know if OB was smart enough to forsee all of this or not, but if so he played the Texans management really hard and is giving the fans a huge smirk right now.
Its hilarious watching so many of the same fans who questioned every decision he has made over the last few years and act like he is incapable of a good strategy, but somehow have faith in his most bold move yet.
A HC who will know he's going to get 8 years before the seat starts warming up & he can pretty much write his check for those 8 years.
$5M/yrs for 8 years. I can see a line forming for that, especially guys who thought they'd never get a 2nd opportunity to be a HC. Vance Joseph, Mike McCarty, Mike Munchak, Dabo Sweeney.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Thanks for proving my point.
I'm sure failures like Vance Joseph and Munchack or going to dominate the league with no draft picks and poor salary cap.
Well... I kinda snuck Dabo in there.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
TK, I know you're just screwing around and looking for fun and optimism here. God bless ya.
But you know damn well this was the worst likely trade scenarios we've ever done in Texans history. I'm actually shocked that there are so many are applauding this knowing everything they've said about OB in the past.
I don't see anyone applauding it & only one guy saying he understands it.
I don't care for the trade but I'm not going to complain about it until I see how it works out. If we're in the Super Bowl BO'bs a genius.
If we can't sign Tunsil BO'bs an idiot.
I am very happy we have a legit LT & someone to take KeKe or Fuller's spot if need be so the offense doesn't grind to a halt.
So we'll see.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
Anyone else excited that we are either going to have a really good team or BOB is going to get fired? Based in the ridiculous situation we find ourselves in, I see no downside.
1) BOB is right, we eat crow and we have a team that contends or wins a SB; or
2) BOB is wrong, our team sucks and he gets canned.
To me, this beats the 8-8 carousel.
1) BOB is right, we eat crow and we have a team that contends or wins a SB; or
2) BOB is wrong, our team sucks and he gets canned.
To me, this beats the 8-8 carousel.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I love your post. I do. But I dont underestimate ob's talent for 9-7 and kicking the can down the road.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I think we contend this year, OB gets an extension, and then we get worse each year on from here because we traded all our assets away.
So basically all OB did is buy himself 4-5 more years from this fan base and before you know it we'll be in year 10 of this four year rebuild.
They didn't have a 1st or 2nd rd pick in 2018 and did quite well.
The 2020 1st I consider to be Tunsil.
You dont like the potential of a Tunsil/Howard/Scharping lead young OL?
They can fix the secondary in FA and the draft where they have a 2nd/two 3rds/two 4ths in next yrs draft. With those picks I can see them trading up to get a CB and drafting a young edge player with potential.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
You really think they extend him again? They just extended him in 2018. I know the Texans organization is a train wreck but I think they don’t extend him until at least 2021. They have done stupider things so
Now that the next coach won't have a first round pick for two years, no
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
You really think they extend him again? They just extended him in 2018. I know the Texans organization is a train wreck but I think they don’t extend him until at least 2021. They have done stupider things so
Cal.
Yes.
I'd imagine we can still get first round picks for Jj, Hopkins, & Watson.
HuttoKarl
Veteran
Hell...we'll give up a 2nd rounder and send Watson wherever for Joe Flacco if BOB is making the calls.
Yep. Caserio is the next can.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I highly doubt that Caerio is coming here now.
I don't blame him if he tries again to go to Miami. Beautiful view and he has multiple picks to use.
McClain said he still expects him to come which makes me think Caserio is as dumb as all these other Belichick flunkies who just did one thing up there but didnt see the whole picture
txtx
Waterboy
It will be interesting to see if Clowney makes it through the year uninjured. He had lost so much weight, some say to protect his knee and become even more athletic (guess right/wrong and bounce around linemen instead of engage), that he was no longer able to set the edge. And the Colts ran right over him to score. Maybe the Seahawks will use his "freakish speed and athleticism" on 3rd down only.
You know nothing about Caserio's duties.
Just say I hate everything Patriots and be done with it.
you don't either
texanhead08
All Pro
I think priority one with cap money is to resign Watson and Tunsil.
I think they would like to keep Mercilus is the price is right.
I think we might see them let Fuller walk because he can't stay healthy.
I think they would like to keep Mercilus is the price is right.
I think we might see them let Fuller walk because he can't stay healthy.
I know what I have read which is more than you so.
Tell me why do you think BB wants to hold on to Caserio so bad?
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This is what I see.
Stills is WFV'S replacement if WFV can't stay healthy this yr. WFV has a lot riding on this yr.
This is what I see.
Stills is WFV'S replacement if WFV can't stay healthy this yr. WFV has a lot riding on this yr.
I admit I’m bias (ND fan), but I think you have to resign Fuller. The offense is much much better when he’s on the field. I’m hopeful the addition of Stills lightens the load a bit and helps keep him on the field. I would definitely use his injury history to knock his contract numbers down a bit. I remember Still playing really well for NO, I’m hopeful we’ll see the same level of play here
Does he? He hasn't given him an extension
Could this be because Caserio wants to become the GM of the Texans in 2020?
You cant be this dense, so I just think you're trolling.
Caserio DOESN'T WANT THE PATS TO GIVE HIM AN EXTENSION.
How do you know?
I dont know for sure, I'm just going by what McClain said and obviously BB wanted to keep Caserio around. Why wouldn't he want to sign Caserio to an extension if he wants to keep him around? I'll let you try to figure it out.
I just dont have time for the trolling this morning.
Well Belichick wouldn't give Easterby a raise or more responsibility, that's why he left.
Could be the same with Caserio. He's probably tired of being an errand boy and wants to try being a "real GM"
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
speaking about our stepdaddy Belichek:
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https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/1169683461201977347
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
You really are just making stuff up aren’t you? Easterby left because he disagreed with Kraft on a personal level after that whole scandal came out.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...ng-patriots/Znf0ex9WtMLOorfUOM1fCN/story.html
As far as them “not giving him an extension” I love how you can say that they haven’t because they don’t want him and then when someone says he doesn’t want one you say they don’t know that.
What we do know as fact is NE went against their normal SOP of letting guys that want to leave, lave and chose to fight to keep him. You can say they were just trying to get a pick from Texans for tampering but if that was the case why drop it as soon as the Texans backed off.
You really are just making stuff up aren’t you? Easterby left because he disagreed with Kraft on a personal level after that whole scandal came out.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...ng-patriots/Znf0ex9WtMLOorfUOM1fCN/story.html
As far as them “not giving him an extension” I love how you can say that they haven’t because they don’t want him and then when someone says he doesn’t want one you say they don’t know that.
What we do know as fact is NE went against their normal SOP of letting guys that want to leave, lave and chose to fight to keep him. You can say they were just trying to get a pick from Texans for tampering but if that was the case why drop it as soon as the Texans backed off.
Lol that story was such bs.
"Easterby’s contract with the Patriots expired after last season, and he has decided to pursue other opportunities in football."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...er-coach-jack-easterby-leave-team/3025833002/
After his contract expired he started telling people he left because of the Kraft stuff. That's why the pats got upset at him. He used that to help his career.