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2019 Texans free agency

maverick512000 said:
This year that is correct but his average is about 15 million and he restructures anytime it looks like Pats might get into cap hell or not be able to field a contender team. Losing Gronk this year and not having any glaring weaknesses means that they can afford to go ahead and pay him.
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Pats saved $12m this year by Gronk retiring
 
TheKDog said:
And they lost Lamm. Yes Lamm sucks but he's better than nothing or whatever street guy they end up signing
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This is simply your opinion dude but let’s keep it 100, if the FO stood pat with Lamm you and a couple of others would still be bitching b/c it’s what ya’ll do. I mean short of them signing an all -pro, the FO is losing no matter who they bring in or draft.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yep this is why they need to add 2-3 OL with high picks.

Will they? History says Nope

I'm willing to wait and see how the OL performs next yr and who gets added in the draft, but this is a good yr for drafting OL and if they dont get the Damn OL fixed this offseason then they all should be fired.

I typed this same thing when Kubiak was hired and he eventually talked Gibbs into coming out of retirement to fix the OL. I've got very little faith in Devlin being able to be a pimple on Gibbs ass, when it comes to OL play much less fix the OL 1/2 as good as Gibbs did.
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You know they got to get that edge rusher in the first.
 
TheKDog said:
And now they'll find a way to replace him
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They have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. Hockenson is the closest to Gronk in this draft, IMO, and the Patriots have the draft capital to get him if they want him.

Something that really shocked me yesterday is realizing Brady had been in the league 11 years before the Patriots drafted Gronk. That amazed me for some reason.
 
maverick512000 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong by what you mean but basically you are saying that, to keep numbers simple, the salary cap is 100 million and say the QB salary is 10% of the cap so the QB salary would be 10 million. Do I understand that correctly? Not being a smartass, I'm really not sure I have a clear picture on it.

Assuming that is correct I can't see the players union going for that. Can you imagine if Tom Savage was being the same as Tom Brady? If I was Brady I'd never throw another pass again. I can't even see all the teams going for it, Who would want to pay the above mentioned Savage franchise QB money? Also that would mean you'd basically not have a QB come up in F/A again unless they were cut because teams would just budget for their QB, they are going to have to pay a replacement the same amount anyway, and why would the QB talk to another team and have to move cities if he's not being cut.

Like I said not sure I understand your meaning so if I don't please clarify to me.
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You have it right, but what I was implying is that franchise QBs will be trying to get their salaries tied to a % of the salary cap so they will get raises every year if the cap keeps going up. I did not mean that every QB will get the same pay.

Say Rodgers' has a 5 yr contract at 20% of the salary cap and the cap is $100 m. in year 1, he gets $20M. If the cap rises to $110M, he gets $22M, so on and so forth. It's based on a % of salary cap rather than a yearly average salary.
 
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DocBar said:
You have it right, but what I was implying is that franchise QBs will be trying to get their salaries tied to a % of the salary cap so they will get raises every year if the cap keeps going up. I did not mean that every QB will get the same pay.

Say Rodgers' has a 5 yr contract at 20% of the salary cap and the cap is $100 m. in year 1, he gets $20M. If the cap rises to $110M, he gets $22M, so on and so forth. It's based on a % of salary cap rather than a yearly average salary.
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I can see why the QBs would want that but I don't see the teams going for it. For starters it means that increase in salary caps don't really free up much more money as, in your example, with the rate increase that means that 2 of the new 10 million is already spent. Plus what makes someone a franchise QB? Is it based on results or rating? No one would question that Tome Brady or Aaron Rogers are franchise QBs but can you really say that Detroit's Matthew Stafford is a franchise QB? He's one of the highest paid QBs in the league and he has a good rating but Detroit still had a 6-10 season so he hasn't really made them better. Hell they lost to the Jets and no one was losing to the Jets in 2018.

On top of that his current contract is stopping them from being able to sign a backup QB. I can see there being a lot more result bonuses, say a few extra million for playoff wins and then a big bonus for a SB win, but just a flat pay raise I don't see teams going for that. That encourages QBs to just play it safe and do everything possible to lengthen their careers regardless of results. Win bonuses would encourage them to give 100% every time.
 
It is important to compare the roster at the same point last year with the current roster.... In other words, what did it look like one month before the draft? I would argue that the roster is much stronger right now than at this point last year.. and this year, we have 3 picks in the first two rounds compared to 0 last year.

OL: much stronger- we lost Lamm but have gained Kahlil and Rankin (now with a year of NFL experience)

TE: dramatically better- Fells + both TE picks last season, who both played significantly last year

RB: arguably static

QB: Watson healthy + McCarron upgrade

WR: stronger due to addition of Coutee

DL: static

LB: static

DB: significantly stronger with Andre Hal's return, Justin Reid's addition and year of experience, and with the off-season free agents at least equally the free agent losses.
 
dalemurphy said:
It is important to compare the roster at the same point last year with the current roster.... In other words, what did it look like one month before the draft? I would argue that the roster is much stronger right now than at this point last year.. and this year, we have 3 picks in the first two rounds compared to 0 last year.

OL: much stronger- we lost Lamm but have gained Kahlil and Rankin (now with a year of NFL experience)

TE: dramatically better- Fells + both TE picks last season, who both played significantly last year

RB: arguably static

QB: Watson healthy + McCarron upgrade

WR: stronger due to addition of Coutee

DL: static

LB: static

DB: significantly stronger with Andre Hal's return, Justin Reid's addition and year of experience, and with the off-season free agents at least equally the free agent losses.
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OL - depends on what you think of Kalil (I dont think he's going to be a significant contributor.) Rankin- Has potential to be an upgrade at LG. But right now this is wishful thinking. Hope you're right and odds are that you're right.

RB Static, besides Miller the group sucks, wishful thinking that Foreman will comeback and be what we all hoped he would be. Why do you think they are bringing in all of these RB's for visits before the draft? This is a poor RB draft. But 1-2 will be really good. Lets hope the Texans find their guy. Ozigbo/Sanders/Henderson are the ones I like best.

QB- Agreed

WR- Agreed about Coutee but they still need to add a deep threat in the draft or a FA like Justin Hunter would really help. I also expect Vyncent Smith to show great improvement in yr 2. This guy is really talented.

DL- Agreed. They need to add a DT that can add pressure from up the middle. This is the draft where you can find this guy outside the 1st rd. Trysten Hill is my pet cat.

LB- Agreed. A later rd guy who can cover would be a luxury. Hopefully they can find another late rd Cole type guy.

CB- Disagree, but even if you're right they still need help at CB in the worst way.
 
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zshawn10 said:
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#Texans Expect Matt Kalil to Compete for a Starting Spot at Left Tackle https://footballmaven.io/texans/news/texans-expect-matt-kalil-to-compete-for-a-starting-spot-at-left-tackle-dkTdgTLQeEGO5mC6822e9A/ … via @SOTTexans


8:47 AM - Mar 26, 2019
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this franchise is just dumbfounding sometimes (and not in a good way) LOL
 
O’Brien on johnson80 joining staff – ‘He can help us as an advisor. He can help Brian Gaine with some scouting, he can help with team building. He’s done a lot for the organization and for the city.’ #Texans

— Dave Fernandez (@TexansDave) March 26, 2019


O’Brien at NFL Meetings- ’We’ve improved the roster. Looking forward to seeing these (new players) April 15’ pic.twitter.com/eH6GsII3Ee #Texans

— Dave Fernandez (@TexansDave) March 26, 2019
 
Finishing up with Bill O’Brien at free agency.
- says the #Texans are following the "spirit of the tag," continuing to negotiate with Clowney
- no change in operations since Bob McNair died
- wants to target RBs in passing game more
- No surprise, thinks Rankin is an OG, not OT

— Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) March 26, 2019
 
Here we go again with these personal attacks. If you do not agree with a member or you don't like that a certain member. Either say you disagree or don't respond.

Now as far as the great members who hasn't posted on here in a long time. First off when I joined, I never seen those members post. So I really hope you wasn't trying to say I'm the reason why they doesn't post any longer.

Now back to the Texans, Rockets and Astros . My irrational self still trying to figure out what big time Free Agent the Texans signed? I'm talking about the Harden, and Paul type. Or the Verlander and Cole type.

One last thing, fans are going to be fans. All because a fan expresses their disbelief or frustration on here. Doesn't mean they've stopped supporting this team.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Here we go again with these personal attacks. If you do not agree with a member or you don't like that a certain member. Either say you disagree or don't respond.

Now as far as the great members who hasn't posted on here in a long time. First off when I joined, I never seen those members post. So I really hope you wasn't trying to say I'm the reason why they doesn't post any longer.

Now back to the Texans, Rockets and Astros . My irrational self still trying to figure out what big time Free Agent the Texans signed? I'm talking about the Harden, and Paul type. Or the Verlander and Cole type.

One last thing, fans are going to be fans. All because a fan expresses their disbelief or frustration on here. Doesn't mean they've stopped supporting this team.
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Who was this post meant for?
 
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zshawn10 said:
Finishing up with Bill O’Brien at free agency.
- says the #Texans are following the "spirit of the tag," continuing to negotiate with Clowney
- no change in operations since Bob McNair died
- wants to target RBs in passing game more
- No surprise, thinks Rankin is an OG, not OT

— Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) March 26, 2019
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No change in operations since the old man died.

Not surprising after seeing this failure of an offseason.

SMH.

BTW, the offseason can still be a success if they draft great.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Here we go again with these personal attacks. If you do not agree with a member or you don't like that a certain member. Either say you disagree or don't respond.

Now as far as the great members who hasn't posted on here in a long time. First off when I joined, I never seen those members post. So I really hope you wasn't trying to say I'm the reason why they doesn't post any longer.

Now back to the Texans, Rockets and Astros . My irrational self still trying to figure out what big time Free Agent the Texans signed? I'm talking about the Harden, and Paul type. Or the Verlander and Cole type.

One last thing, fans are going to be fans. All because a fan expresses their disbelief or frustration on here. Doesn't mean they've stopped supporting this team.
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So which big time free agent did you want them to sign? For that matter what NFL version of Verlander or Harden was there available to sign? Also FYI MLB has the advantage of teams being able to sign free agents right before a post season run as other teams try with no hope of a playoff run can put their big name players up to try and clear cap space. That's how we got Verlander, they didn't plan to sign him until it was clear that they had a real shot at winning the WS.
 
disaacks3 said:
So, you've seen Davenport lighting it up have you? Can he get better? Sure. #73 ranked tackle isn't something I'd hang my hat on though.

If he beats out Kalil, fine. Make him at least earn it.
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Sigh. Have you seen Kalil 'lighting it up' at anytime in his entire career after being a top 5 pick? He's a BUST and injury prone at that. "You're best ability is availability" and even though I LOATHE the idea of Davenport for another year, at least you know he's going to falter and plan for it, with Kalil people are going to get a false sense of security and he's going to get somebody hurt. Sure, sure make it a camp battle, but if Kalil wins out because of ANOTHER 'genius moment' by ButtCrack McQuack then Deshaun Watson is in trouble. Or maybe our awesome OLine Guru will whip him back into shape and salvage his career? LOL
 
Houston Texans offensive line coach Mike Devlin held a private workout with former Villanova Wildcats offensive tackle Brandon Hitner, according to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle.


Hitner is 6-6 and weighs 300 pounds. In 2018, he played in only seven games due to a knee injury, which is affecting his draft stock. Hitner is expected to slip through the draft and be available as a free agent once the draft is over. He was invited to the College Gridiron Showcase at the end of the 2018 season.

Looks like Texans taking FA strategy to the draft as well.
Texans will have a awesome IR team. Lol
 
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maverick512000 said:
I can see why the QBs would want that but I don't see the teams going for it. For starters it means that increase in salary caps don't really free up much more money as, in your example, with the rate increase that means that 2 of the new 10 million is already spent. Plus what makes someone a franchise QB? Is it based on results or rating? No one would question that Tome Brady or Aaron Rogers are franchise QBs but can you really say that Detroit's Matthew Stafford is a franchise QB? He's one of the highest paid QBs in the league and he has a good rating but Detroit still had a 6-10 season so he hasn't really made them better. Hell they lost to the Jets and no one was losing to the Jets in 2018.

On top of that his current contract is stopping them from being able to sign a backup QB. I can see there being a lot more result bonuses, say a few extra million for playoff wins and then a big bonus for a SB win, but just a flat pay raise I don't see teams going for that. That encourages QBs to just play it safe and do everything possible to lengthen their careers regardless of results. Win bonuses would encourage them to give 100% every time.
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I'm not saying that QB contracts being tied to a % of the cap would be mandatory. I'm saying that the QBs and their agents are trying to make this happen. It was reported that Aaron Rodgers was trying to have his latest contract tied to a % of the cap. I believe it will happen. It might take a Russell Wilson doing a Le'veon Bell or Nick Foles route: Pay me or let me walk.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Sigh. Have you seen Kalil 'lighting it up' at anytime in his entire career after being a top 5 pick? He's a BUST and injury prone at that. "You're best ability is availability" and even though I LOATHE the idea of Davenport for another year, at least you know he's going to falter and plan for it, with Kalil people are going to get a false sense of security and he's going to get somebody hurt. Sure, sure make it a camp battle, but if Kalil wins out because of ANOTHER 'genius moment' by ButtCrack McQuack then Deshaun Watson is in trouble. Or maybe our awesome OLine Guru will whip him back into shape and salvage his career? LOL
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"Falter and plan for it" is what you've got? Give me a break.

Unless you somehow think this gives the Texans some sort of "security blanket" where they feel they don't need to draft O-Line, you've got little reason for this rant. If nothing else, he gives us a backup as a natural LT...not this "move 'em around and pray" we got starting in NE last year.
 
Trent Brown...
Had offers from 3 teams: NE, HOU, OAK. Oakland’s offer was a "no-brainer".

"Honestly, I’m a 7th rounder, I’ve been playing for pennies. I got two children, a family I want to take care of, and I want to retire my parents. This gave me the best opportunity to do that."

 
zshawn10 said:
Trent Brown...
Had offers from 3 teams: NE, HOU, OAK. Oakland’s offer was a "no-brainer".

"Honestly, I’m a 7th rounder, I’ve been playing for pennies. I got two children, a family I want to take care of, and I want to retire my parents. This gave me the best opportunity to do that."

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So Texans were making a play for him but just weren't willing to break the bank for a player with average stats like Oakland was. Fair enough and you can't blame them for that, though I'm sure some will anyway.
 
maverick512000 said:
So Texans were making a play for him but just weren't willing to break the bank for a player with average stats like Oakland was. Fair enough and you can't blame them for that, though I'm sure some will anyway.
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He would definitely be an upgrade on our line but not as good as DBrown was for us.
Personally, not worth the big dollars Oak offered him although it could depend on how good his OC, QB and LG are also which is why he likely would not be as good here as in NE.
 
zshawn10 said:
Trent Brown...
Had offers from 3 teams: NE, HOU, OAK. Oakland’s offer was a "no-brainer".

"Honestly, I’m a 7th rounder, I’ve been playing for pennies. I got two children, a family I want to take care of, and I want to retire my parents. This gave me the best opportunity to do that."

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So we couldn't get it done again.

Why do they always say, I have kids.

I wonder what did we offer him. And it wasn't enough to do the things he wanted to do.
 
maverick512000 said:
So which big time free agent did you want them to sign? For that matter what NFL version of Verlander or Harden was there available to sign? Also FYI MLB has the advantage of teams being able to sign free agents right before a post season run as other teams try with no hope of a playoff run can put their big name players up to try and clear cap space. That's how we got Verlander, they didn't plan to sign him until it was clear that they had a real shot at winning the WS.
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Bell to name one example.

Doesn't matter how they got it done. They got it done.
 
Mr teX said:
This is simply your opinion dude but let’s keep it 100, if the FO stood pat with Lamm you and a couple of others would still be bitching b/c it’s what ya’ll do. I mean short of them signing an all -pro, the FO is losing no matter who they bring in or draft.
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Wrong. I've said many times I like the defensive moves but all you want to do is defend that clueless clown Obrien. At least get your insults right

And yes Lamm is better than Kalil who hasn't played at an even backup NFL level in years
 
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