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2019 Texans free agency

Honoring Earl 34 said:
It's 1:50 am at the bar and their waiting for a supermodel .
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I think it's closer to it's 0150 at the bar and Gaine knows you don't find keepers in a bar, for the most part. Gaine appears to want to build this team through the draft and supplement through FA. That's a more sustainable plan than hitting the panic button every offseason and making a splash signing.
With the early success Gaine had in last years draft, I'm going to hide and watch and see what happens.
 
JamTex said:
So far, the Texans have signed 2 cornerbacks, a safety, a blocking tight end, a left tackle, a quarterback and re-signed several of their own, and yet, no one seems to be satisfied. Gaine has signed some solid players so far. No big splashes but the players he got should contribute and make the team as a whole better. The draft is still coming. I'm of the opinion that Gaine wants to set the draft up so he can take the best players available when the Texans picks come up. Re-stock other positions that could become positions of need. Add depth at some other positions. I don't think the Texans are in a bad place.
I think Gaine actually made the team better so far. Keep your peepers open and let's see how Gaine approaches and uses this draft. It could be good.
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Yea but you see some folks are mad now and dissatisfied because the McNair family is till solvent.
I dunno why some think spending blindly on every FA on the market is the key to building an NFL roster ?
 
he Houston Texans entered free agency with a bunch of money, and offensive line needs. They sat on their dollars and watched as Trent Brown, and Ja’Wuan James were given obscene and exorbitant amounts of dollars to go to Oakland and Denver. This was the right decision. I admired this decision. Overpaying for mediocre players is how teams stifle their performance and obliterate their cap space.

Yet, the Texans still need competition at the tackle position at a minimum. If a plug and play starter couldn’t be found for a contract that made sense, they’d have to search under rocks to find someone, anyone. Houston’s tackles were only Juli’en Davenport and Seantrel Henderson a day ago.

Then yesterday went flying by. The Texans signed 29 year old Matt Kalil to a one-year contract. Kalil missed all of last season with a knee injury. The Panthers signed him to a five-year $55 million contract after his rookie contract ended in Minnesota. There in Carolina, the Panthers were stuck doing the same things the Texans did last season with their cheap tackles, they were chipping and sliding and helping Kalil and Mike Remmers in pass protection to make up for Kalil’s weak hands, and Remmers’s slow feet. This is exactly what you can’t do when you pay a tackle $11 million a year.

Kalil should be left tackle competition at a minimum. Kalil hasn’t been good since his rookie year, and at this point, isn’t even as good as ‘I know I’m starting at left tackle’ Juli’en Davenport. With Kalil, Davenport, and Henderson on the roster, look for Houston to draft a tackle in the first or second round of the draft, and then watch these four tear each other apart for September playingtime.https://www.battleredblog.com/2018/...ans-exercise-kevin-johnsons-fifth-year-option
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OK FWIW so here's somebody elses take on the Kalil signing and the Texans' decision to pass on or failure to sign Trent Bown, JaWuan James, and some FA offensive linemen.
 
IDEXAN said:
Yea but you see some folks are mad now and dissatisfied because the McNair family is till solvent.
I dunno why some think spending blindly on every FA on the market is the key to building an NFL roster ?
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No one is asking them to spend wildly of blindly. We want them to spend money on key positions that are difficult to fill thru draft but also critical to any teams success.
 
srrono said:
No one is asking them to spend wildly of blindly. We want them to spend money on key positions that are difficult to fill thru draft but also critical to any teams success.
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Oh on the contrary I think some are upset because Gaine is not signing more prospects at positions of need even though there's a relative dearth of talent there in this years free agency.
 
IDEXAN said:
OK FWIW so here's somebody elses take on the Kalil signing and the Texans' decision to pass on or failure to sign Trent Bown, JaWuan James, and some FA offensive linemen.
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Who arec you quoting?
 
JB said:
People are upset because the off season is not matching their fantasies and they didn't believe what Gaine told them
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Gaine told us sure. And that’s what I’m upset about. The philosophy, not so much the actual players signed or some great desire I want.

Maybe the DBs work out, hold things together, maybe they don’t. Thats not the biggest issue to me. To me it’s the philosophy. With the 1 year contracts we’ll be doing this all over again next year. And adding that JJo will be gone as well. So once again they’ll be desperate for DBs.

Desperate for DBs and signing the guys they have? At least they ARE addressing that weakness. Can’t say that about the OL. Regardless of what my “fantasies” to do there are, they seem to have absolutely zero issues at all with the state of their OL.

I get not over spending in FA and building your team like that, and actually agree with it, but you can’t just totally ignore it when you’ve got so many holes, and the money to spend. Getting outbid by the Titans for the lineman they picked up can’t happen. Not in the boat you’re in. And putting all of your eggs in the draft basket is just a poor philosophy IMO.

If that’s Brian Gaine, I’m not feeling good about the Texans future. Well, maybe 6-8 years down the road when you can see what all these drafts turn into.

I disagree with the approach. I don’t disagree about not paying a Trent Brown outrageous money just ‘cause you can.
 
Speedy said:
Gaine told us sure. And that’s what I’m upset about. The philosophy, not so much the actual players signed or some great desire I want.
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fine, just don't be surprised. One year contracts are the wave of the future. Core players will get extended contracts, then you'll have players o rookie deals, and finaly fill inn-depth guys on 1 yr/vet min deals. Cap is going up so is avg player sal.

edit: Not good is more than ever before a roster spot
 
JB said:
fine, just don't be surprised. One year contracts are the wave of the future. Core players will get extended contracts, then you'll have players o rookie deals, and finaly fill inn-depth guys on 1 yr/vet min deals. Cap is going up so is avg player sal.

edit: Not good is more than ever before a roster spot
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1 year contracts for fill-in guys is fine. Not so much when you need starters.
 
JB said:
fine, just don't be surprised. One year contracts are the wave of the future. Core players will get extended contracts, then you'll have players o rookie deals, and finaly fill inn-depth guys on 1 yr/vet min deals. Cap is going up so is avg player sal.

edit: Not good is more than ever before a roster spot
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Oline continuity is very important. You can't build an Oline thru 1yr deals. You have to build a core line then keep them together for as long as possible.
 
DocBar said:
I think it's closer to it's 0150 at the bar and Gaine knows you don't find keepers in a bar, for the most part. Gaine appears to want to build this team through the draft and supplement through FA. That's a more sustainable plan than hitting the panic button every . offseason and making a splash signing.
With the early success Gaine had in last years draft, I'm going to hide and watch and see what happens.
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Agreed, I think this is Gaines philosophy and if you mean supplement as in signing a bunch of underachievers and injured guys on cheap 1 yr deals then you're spot on. Great philosophy but it's not going to bring a Lombardi to Kirby anytime soon.

Splash signing?

When is the last time the Texans org spent $$$$ on a s plash FA signing that was a proven top tier player? JoJo/Manning, those signings were followed by the best 2 yrs of on the field production this franchise has ever had. Coincidence?
 
DocBar said:
I think it's closer to it's 0150 at the bar and Gaine knows you don't find keepers in a bar, for the most part. Gaine appears to want to build this team through the draft and supplement through FA. That's a more sustainable plan than hitting the panic button every offseason and making a splash signing.
With the early success Gaine had in last years draft, I'm going to hide and watch and see what happens.
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You have them all figured out don't ya. Lol
 
Speedy said:
Gaine told us sure. And that’s what I’m upset about. The philosophy, not so much the actual players signed or some great desire I want.

Maybe the DBs work out, hold things together, maybe they don’t. Thats not the biggest issue to me. To me it’s the philosophy. With the 1 year contracts we’ll be doing this all over again next year. And adding that JJo will be gone as well. So once again they’ll be desperate for DBs.

Desperate for DBs and signing the guys they have? At least they ARE addressing that weakness. Can’t say that about the OL. Regardless of what my “fantasies” to do there are, they seem to have absolutely zero issues at all with the state of their OL.

I get not over spending in FA and building your team like that, and actually agree with it, but you can’t just totally ignore it when you’ve got so many holes, and the money to spend. Getting outbid by the Titans for the lineman they picked up can’t happen. Not in the boat you’re in. And putting all of your eggs in the draft basket is just a poor philosophy IMO.

If that’s Brian Gaine, I’m not feeling good about the Texans future. Well, maybe 6-8 years down the road when you can see what all these drafts turn into.

I disagree with the approach. I don’t disagree about not paying a Trent Brown outrageous money just ‘cause you can.
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Everyone will know all they need to know about Gaine after the 2020 season. That will be three years after his first draft class. Early returns look good.
 
DocBar said:
And you get that continuity via the draft instead of overpaying in FA.
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Mayock/ Gruden

Snead/McVay

Beane/McDermott

Disagree with you.

So the Pats trading for Brown last yr and that killed their continuity. Or is it only FA's that kill continuity?
 
steelbtexan said:
Mayock/ Gruden

Snead/McVay

Beane/McDermott

Disagree with you.

So the Pats trading for Brown last yr and that killed their continuity. Or is it only FA's that kill continuity?
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Most good teams didn’t spend. And here’s proof, using Spotrac’s offseason spending tracker for 2019 as our guide:

• Five of the six lightest-spending teams made the playoffs last year, and two of the three lightest spenders played in the Super Bowl. Ten of the 12 playoffs teams from last year are in the bottom 14 in spending thus far. And two of the four in that cluster that didn’t make the playoffs (Atlanta, Carolina) have been in the Super Bowl and made the playoffs multiple times over the last four years.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/18/free-agency-spending-cowboys-kyler-murray-tyreek-hill
 
DocBar said:
And you get that continuity via the draft instead of overpaying in FA.
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No, you use both.
If you rely only on draft your throwing away half your options plus unless you have a stock pile of early picks or get very lucky late time is against you. Build a Good Oline thru draft only take 3 drafts at least. I guess Watson can run for his life till then. Then become a Freeagent and leave for a team that cares to protect him.
 
Kalil is not likely the long term answer at left tackle but Gaine did address the O-line and the blocking. He added Darren Fells who is a mauler when it comes to blocking on running and passing plays. The tight end position and getting a good blocking tight end has been a huge need the Texans hadn't addressed since Owen Daniels left. Fells can catch, but it's not his strong suit. Still, he's a good addition in protecting Watson over what the Texans currently have. He'll help to shore up that protection. As to Kalil, he's on the down side of his career, but he could still help the Texans 0-line with his veteran leadership and presence. He was at one time considered one of the best left tackles in the league. If he's healthy coming into this season, he could be a huge addition in helping keep Watson upright. He was a good signing.
Let's see how the draft goes. It's almost that time. Just maybe, Gaine will make his splash in this draft. We shall see.
 
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JamTex said:
Khalil is not likely the long term answer at left tackle but Gaine did address the O-line and the blocking. He added Darren Fells who is a mauler when it comes to blocking on running and passing plays. The tight end position and getting a good blocking tight end has been a huge need the Texans hadn't addressed since Owen Daniels left. Fells can catch, but it's not his strong suit. Still, he's a good addition in protecting Watson over what the Texans currently have. He'll help to shore up that protection. As to Khalil, he's on the down side of his career, but he could still help the Texans 0-line with his veteran leadership and presence. He was at one time considered one of the best left tackles in the league. If he's healthy coming into this season, he could be a huge addition in helping keep Watson upright. He was a good signing.
Let's see how the draft goes. It's almost that time. Just maybe, Gaine will make his splash in this draft. We shall see.
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Fells is fine, we need a blocking TE, but that is way too optimistic on Kalil I think. He is basically broken IMO. Last time he played "healthy" in 2017 he was really bad. I would have rather kept Lamm than two broken dudes in Kalil and Seantrel.
 
sandman said:
Indy didn't sign the 2014 version of Justin Houston. That player doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for a while.

Since his 22-sack season: 30 total sacks and 20 missed games in the last 4 years.
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In the last 4 yrs, how many sacks does Clowney or Merci have?
 
leebigeztx said:
So in the last 4yrs Houston has more sacks than Clowney and Merci correct?
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1 sack and 5 sacks, respectively. Not sure that puts him in terrorizing mode considering all the bitching around here regarding Clowney and Mercilus in the pass rush department.
 
Texansballer74 said:
No it didn't because that coaching staff knows how to coach up players to fit their system. Plus they have their freaking scheme down to the T.
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Because they spent the $$$$ and draft capital in FA/Draft to find OL that fit their scheme to protect their QB's.
 
Are there any current fa targets we know of?

Are there specific fa's we should be pursuing?
 
steelbtexan said:
I agreed with you until the Lamm part Seantrell is an upgrade.
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Lamm battled, obviously another team saw some value there and snagged him. Not saying he will ever be starter material but he balled. Don’t know that about Henderson or Kalil? Drafts grades don’t matter in the real NFL. It’s what have you done lately, and lamm wins easily. But we’ll see, learned not to have faith in Texans Medical Reclamation’s.
 
beerlover said:
Lamm battled, obviously another team saw some value there and snagged him. Not saying he will ever be starter material but he balled. Don’t know that about Henderson or Kalil? Drafts grades don’t matter in the real NFL. It’s what have you done lately, and lamm wins easily. But we’ll see, learned not to have faith in Texans Medical Reclamation’s.
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I was actually surprised that Lamm did as well as he did and I thought he improved as the yr went on.

I've got no faith in the Kalil signing. I like him but he's had a serious hip injury and I think he will only be a shell of his former self.
 
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