Maybe it would be better if he wasn't in the process of selecting players.
That way we can avoid players like Hoyer, Bang Bang, Blue, Griffin, etc.
That's true, and the way to fix that is a new head coach
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That's true, and the way to fix that is a new head coach
No sh*t , no doubt!
CloakNNNdagger
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I don't know what people would expect him to say publicly. I don't remember O'Brien ever saying that Rick would always get the players the coaches wanted.
He said it in the interview with Mad Radio I posted earlier.
Also, why is he throwing out BS publicly? Is he embarrassed to say he sits on his couch watching movies during the draft?
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
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Akins - 92.9
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Darren Fells - 97.0
CloakNNNdagger
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A Closer Look on How A.J. McCarron's Signing Impacts the Houston Texans
byPatrick D. Starr2 hrs
A Closer Look on How A.J. McCarron's signing Impacts the Houston Texans offense and roster.
The Houston Texans have signed free agent quarterback A.J. McCarron who played the 2018 season with the Oakland Raiders. The Texans were looking to add a younger option at quarterback behind Deshaun Watson and feel confident McCarron can be the backup for this offense. McCarron agreed to the one-year, $3 million deal, placing him on the Texans roster for the 2019 season.
What does the addition of McCarron mean for the organization heading into 2019? We take a look below.
byPatrick D. Starr2 hrs
A Closer Look on How A.J. McCarron's signing Impacts the Houston Texans offense and roster.
The Houston Texans have signed free agent quarterback A.J. McCarron who played the 2018 season with the Oakland Raiders. The Texans were looking to add a younger option at quarterback behind Deshaun Watson and feel confident McCarron can be the backup for this offense. McCarron agreed to the one-year, $3 million deal, placing him on the Texans roster for the 2019 season.
What does the addition of McCarron mean for the organization heading into 2019? We take a look below.
- The Texans have opted to move on from Brandon Weeden, who was O’Brien’s hand-picked back up option, in favor of A.J McCarron. McCarron was drafted by the Bengals in 2014 and bounced around after the 2017 season, seeing time with the Bills and then the Raiders. The Raiders traded for McCarron after signing a two-year deal worth $10 million to be the Bills back up. Regardless, McCarron is at the point of his football career that he is a decidedly backup option and, with his small sample size of play for the Bengals, a solid option to back up Watson if needed this season.
- The Texans continue to try to get younger on the roster, which is exactly what McCarron offers: he is a 28-year old quarterback, clearly an upgrade athletically over former backups Brandon Weeden and Tom Savage. The signing may not feel significant to most, but McCarron’s age played a huge factor in the move for the Texans.
- The Raiders cut McCarron mid-March, making him available for the Texans to pick up as their backup. What should not be overlooked is how general manager Brian Gaine continues to look at veterans cut by other teams who do not affect the team's compensatory picks. Currently, the organization has a potential 3rd-round selection after the Chiefs signed Tyrann Mathieu. McCarron comes from the pool of players cut by their former team, which gives Gaine the option to sign him with zero negative effect for the Texans.
- As for McCarron, on the field he has been put into situations to save a season like he did for the Bengals in 2015. After Andy Dalton went down with a thumb injury, McCarron started the final three games that year to get the Bengals into the playoffs. Completing 66.4% of his passes with 6 touchdowns to only 2 interceptions showed that McCarron is a back up quarterback who can answer the bell like he did for the Bengals that season.
- Even with the addition of McCarron, expect the Texans to bring in at least one more quarterback heading into their off-season work. The team might even look to bring in as many as two quarterbacks to help with the work needed to run an NFL offseason but Deshaun Watson and A.J. McCarron will be the Texans top two quarterbacks on the 53-man roster.
He did want him. I remember him talking about watching a ton of film on him and saying he felt like he had everything they were looking for.
If you truly believe this then why's BOB still here and why didn't they bring the former GM back?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Really, you're going to start that crap again? Can you just let that go already.
If BOB was responsible he would've been gone too is the point, instead he got an extension and picked his gm
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Or since Smith was leaving anyway they didn't want to do a full house cleaning right before the start of a season that, on paper at least, we looked like serious contenders.
Because the McNairs are dumb, remember?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol, this is all hindsight based. The fact of the matter is Oz was a former high 2nd round pick with pretty good measureables and a resume that included:
- a 5-2 record as a starter
- over 60% completion % with a little under 300 attempts.............................................so not a small sample size.
- 10 TD's 6 ints.............................................not great, but still on the + side of TD/int ratio.
- a win against the patriots in a critical game ...........................which wound up factoring HUGE in the donkeys SB run b/c it gave them homefield advantage over the pats who finished with the same record.
- SB champion
Then when you factor in all the off the field things like him being only 26 & having Learned at the knee from 2 of the very best to ever do it in Manning & Elway for 2 years, well spoken etc, etc....what BoB said about him wasn't exactly hyperbole or even wrong...............AT THE TIME. We've seen teams over the years before Oz (Schaub, the NFL draft) & after Oz (Jimmy G) get paid like franchise guys from teams who thought they too had everything they were looking for...& these were guys who'd accomplished far less than Oz.
AngryNateFTW
Veteran
Do we not get compensation for KJax?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Agreed, I don't fault them for signing the Blunder of Oz no matter if it was a McNair, Smith, BoB or all three call. You look at everything going on at the time and Osweiler was the lesser of all evils and on paper even looked like a good choice. People also forget that Elway was ready to match our offer and the reason we got him and Denver didn't was because Osweiler chose to come here because he was pissed Elway waited till Manning had decided before approaching him. That wasn't Denver and Elway being smarter than the Texans that was them getting lucky and dodging a bullet we took instead.
Plus he also has a smoking hot wife.
Just be patient. Let's see how things look after a draft with first & second round picks. Times are changing my friend.
The Os deal was always stupid based on how much money it was. Yes he played okay in Kubiaks system (which is very different from OBriens) but he was INT prone which is why he was benched for Peyton who could barely throw 5 yards at that point in his career.
If they could have gotten him cheap, then ok. But the money was dumb. And the rumor was the broncos would get close in total money but not in guaranteed money.
Then on top of that they trade a 2nd round pick to get rid of him when they could have cut him, and they didn't even use the capspace that opened up.
If they could have gotten him cheap, then ok. But the money was dumb. And the rumor was the broncos would get close in total money but not in guaranteed money.
Then on top of that they trade a 2nd round pick to get rid of him when they could have cut him, and they didn't even use the capspace that opened up.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
He wasn't benched because of being INT prone though, because Manning was leading the league by a large margin in INT's when Oz came in when he was hurt. Oz was a lot better for the Broncos from a TO standpoint that season at least. Manning was coughing up INT's like nobody's business with his deflated arm. Oz impressed people for the most part which is why the Broncs offered him decent money as well as the Texans. I didn't see anything that impressive from him, but he wasn't bad either. He had his moments that season. He had a strong pre season for the Texans as well, but then totally fell apart after week 2.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Not enough. To many teams are really stacked and really good in the AFC right now. Texans looked better on paper last season than what they really were to most people. Even through that big winning streak they only had like one or two dominant wins that really impressed me. They were a good team, but needed a strong off season to become a big time contender based on what we saw last season, and now that the Browns and Ravens have gotten better and our division being what it has become, I just don't see a contender for us going into this season. At this point they may want to just keep the cap room, and stack up some more pics and go big next off season to try and win in 2020.
There was plenty of BO'b lauding Oz... strength in pocket, toughness, leadership in both articles provided. Before he met Oz, he liked him. After, not so much which is inline with everything said about Osweiler before & after his draft.
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Texecutioner
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This was actually the one time the Texans got off their asses and made a serious aggressive move and went out and stole someone in the middle of the night. It was disrespectful, it was sneaky, and it was strategically executed. That's actually the most proud I've ever been of the Texans organization from a free agency standpoint of deciding to go out and get their guy at all costs. I've never seen them do something like that ever in that type of manner. They went in like they were stealing cattle in the middle of the night or something on Elway. Lol! That was awesome. Elway was so pissed and Oz was talking trash the whole way out from there. Unfortunately it ended up blowing up in their faces and Elway got the last laugh.
Agreed and I loved it.
After they got burned, it seems like they're now suffering from analysis by paralysis.
BattleBull
Practice Squad
And that's where the problem lies, the coach should never pick the GM. A good coach makes the players fit his scheme, you don't pass on the BPA because he's "not a fit", you make him fit.
I want to have faith but at the same time we haven't had a line from day one.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
False. He wasn't "int prone" as he'd only started 7 games to that point in his career. Furthermore, you're always going to overpay at the beginning of the FA period moreso if said FA is a qb; See Kirk Cousins. The reality is it was a move that had as much of a high upside as it did downside. They took a shot & they lost..it happens to every team every year with 1 player or another.
What bothers me is they took their shot and lost and now it appears that they're afraid to take another shot.
I agree with you, but Belichick/Parcells/Walsh/Johnson disagree with you.
Devlin, the man who worked out Davenport being in charge of recommending OL prospects scares the crap out of me.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I don't necessarily think that's the case, I just think Gaine is being prudent in managing the cap and they are really focusing on developing a young core that will grow together as opposed to overpaying and spending crazily on just ok FA's that likely won't be around in 2 years. Yes, technically guys like Trent Brown would be an upgrade over Davenport, but would he have been so much of an upgrade that he was worth 17 per? of course not. Same for Saffold. Was he really worth 11 per? maybe to Tenn he was..but they already have their bookend tackles..we don't. I heard Wade Smith talking about him the other day & he said that Saffold was pretty much a JAG until he got Whitworth next to him which is pretty telling considering he's replacing a guy that gave up 4 & he'll be right next to a guy that gave up the most sacks in the NFL of all centers. So Saffold will most assuredly have his hands full with those A gap blitzes that will most definitely be coming.
Or maybe hindsight is always 20/20
The Texans traded two 2nd rounders and swapped first rounders to get Schaub.
Not only was he a far better QB who was a legit starter and made the pro bowl, it was also a much more reasonable cost.
There's a reason guys like Belichick don't often overpay guys in free agency. It's hard to really know a guy when he isn't on your team, and it usually costs too much.
Belichick always takes bpa.
- Manning came in because Osweiler was benched after struggling for more than two quarters against the Chargers. During his time on the field, Osweiler threw two interceptions and the Broncos turned the ball over a total of five times.
I know Manning was having a bad year. But kubiak trusted him more for good reason.
And osweilers career since then has completely vindicated that decisions.
That's why one dude is a real QB/offense guru and the other guy who has excuses (it's not my job)
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
As it stands now, Kareem Jackson's compensatory pick will be cancelled out by Brad Roby's signing.
And there was another aggressive move they made for the current Qb.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I wasn't comparing the two QB's. I was specifically talking about the way that the Texans organization got super aggressive in acquiring another team's QB when they least suspected it, and the Texans closed a deal before anyone could even sneeze. My post had nothing to do with how it turned out.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Again with the hindsight. Lol “the money wasn’t that bad for Schaub”... no one was trying to give up that kind of jack OR draft capital for a guy with so-so to average measurables and only 1 start under his belt. We overpaid back then too, it just happened to work out for us..but even then it didn’t really “work” until the team was formed around him. His 1st few years under that “real qb/offense guru” he was total trash. His performance largely went as the team talent around him (AF27) did...in which case it was no surprise he went in the crapper as soon as the team around him began to crumble.
Having said that, That “real” qb/offense guru is the same one who kept trotting him out there to eventually set pick 6 records too.
The only difference between his decision to go with the aging over the hill veteran then and later with Manning is that it didn’t blow up in his face with Manning and he just happened to have a lights out defense to keep him in games........i.e. he lucked out.
I mean, Not that you care b/c your post history suggest it...but you need to stop it b/c you’re embarrassing yourself.
Schaub was held in high regard and was always in trade rumors
No one knew who osweiler was until kubiak make him look halfway decent
The only people embarrassing themselves are those defending O'Brien, one of the worst offensive coaches in the NFL who mangles offensive lines, starts and picks the wrong QBs, builds a 70s era offense,u and doesn't think it's his job to throw challenge flags or call tiemouts
Until further notice, O'Brien is the Brian Billick of this generation. A guy who got a reputation as an offensive minded OC, becomes a HC and fields some of the worst offenses in the NFL.
If they were holding people accountable for past deeds, BO'b would have been canned following the 30-0 Brian Hoyer fiasco that directly led to the Oz.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Why is Gaine getting players from Buffalo as if they're an awesome organization? The one ex Bill player he should've signed is Tyrod Taylor
Texansballer74
The Marine
Hold up you don't do links. It suppose to be law around these parts.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
By what measure? YPG, PPG, Your own eye test?
In 2018:
15th in YPG
11th in PPG
11th in ToPG
14th in 1PG
2017:
20th in YPG
17th in PPG
15th in ToPG
14th in 1PG
Not amazing, but not one of the worst.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
How about one of the worst for a playoff team?
Everybody should've been canned after that fiasco.
That has more to do with talent. IMHO
Lets fix the OL and see what they can do.
Those 2018 PPG numbers include defensive TDs. They were like 20th in offensive points and near the bottom in redzone offense. They also had the best starting field position thanks to the defense. At the end of the day they were like 20th. This is with Watson and Hopkins.
How has the second year of alignment gone so far?