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infantrycak said:
Would Bouye have looked so special on the Texans last year?



Well a big reason for that has nothing to do with the team. Historically, more than 4 game jumps are rare. Those guys are into analytics.
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I’d venture to guess he’d look atleast as good as Jo Jo did last season. Better than K Jo and K Jax. Certainly better the Johnathan Banks and the rest of the clown car of CBs that played meaningful snaps for the team.

You’re right though... probably could have signed him to a long term deal at a discount after franchising him! Definitely should have franchised him!!!
 
TheRealJoker said:
I’d venture to guess he’d look atleast as good as Jo Jo did last season. Better than K Jo and K Jax. Certainly better the Johnathan Banks and the rest of the clown car of CBs that played meaningful snaps for the team.

You’re right though... probably could have signed him to a long term deal at a discount after franchising him! Definitely should have franchised him!!!
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If they weren't going to spend the $$$$ on Bouye, they should've spent it on the OL like the Vikings did.
 
I distrusted the Foreman pick from the beginning because of his injury history. We'll be lucky if we get any really good use out of him this season or ever. When I think of our RB corps, I don't even think about him. If he does come back to his potential, which I don't think he EVER will, it would be a bonus not something to be expected or counted on.
 
steelbtexan said:
If they weren't going to spend the $$$$ on Bouye, they should've spent it on the OL like the Vikings did.
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They basically did the same thing as the Vikings last offseason. Vikings signed Remmers (a JAG level RT) and Reiff (decent LT notch below Solder). Then drafted Pat Elflein in the 3rd round at center.

Texans brought in Kelemete (JAG level), Fulton (decent starter) and spent a 3rd on Rankin. Plus throw in Henderson as a boom/bust signing and Texans likely to have 4 new OL starters instead of the Vikings 3.
 
Also important to note on Vikings comp they are still not satisfied with their OL spending a 2nd on O’neill this past draft. Pat Shurmur’s quick passing game scheme did a lot to help them out.

One could draw quite a few parallels from Vikings and Texans considering OB will have to scheme his butt off to make that OL look improved and we are most certainly going to use a high pick in next year’s draft on the OL even if the unit improves.
 
TexansBull said:
You are obsessed about the money. You post about it a lot. Like unhealthy a lot.

We can agree on this much - Texans are under new management. They can fly that banner at NRG stadium. Things are different. No more Rick Smith determining who gets signed or waived. The Bouye thing was on him and he is gone.

The only question I have on the Bouye thing is if RC told Rick Smith he wanted him.

Conspiracy theory time - what if the tie breaker between Rick and OB was McNair asking RC if he wanted Bouye and RC said yes.

With Gaine we don’t how his draft will look like or the off-season free agent pick ups. All we can do is wait and watch.

I don’t know of what free agent this year you wanted. Please tell.

Because if it was that tackle from NE that went to NYG we were always a third option no matter how much money. Better for him he is close to his son.
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They offered Bouye a nice hefty contract extension and he turned it down. How is that on Smith. Bottom line is Bouye did not want to be a Texan period.
TheRealJoker said:
Lots of teams use the franchise tag or even transition tag in that situation. We chose not to do that despite having the cap space to do so.
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They did not want to franchise tag him. They wanted to keep him for the next 5 years. Dude turned us down and went to our enemy. So bleep him Joker. He did not want to be apart of the Red White and Blue.
 
Texansballer74 said:
They offered Bouye a nice hefty contract extension and he turned it down. How is that on Smith. Bottom line is Bouye did not want to be a Texan period.



They did not want to franchise tag him. They wanted to keep him for the next 5 years. Dude turned us down and went to our enemy. So bleep him Joker. He did not want to be apart of the Red White and Blue.
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He took more money to play elsewhere. He is a pro athlete who doesn’t have any loyalty to this team just like the rest of them.

Franchise tagging him could have given them time to work out a long term deal as well. Transition tag could have allowed them the opportunity to match any offer Bouye received. It’s a business and the team had options to keep him but chose not to pursue said options. Opting instead to let him test the market and find out another team will give him more $.
 
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TheRealJoker said:
He took more money to play elsewhere. He is a pro athlete who doesn’t have any loyalty to this team just like the rest of them.

Franchise tagging him could have given them time to work out a long term deal as well. Transition tag could have allowed them the opportunity to match any offer Bouye received. It’s a business and the team had options to keep him but chose not to pursue said options. Opting instead to let him test the market and find out another team will give him more $.
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They could've franchise tagged him for sure. But he could've also bounced for the bigger contract after that as well.

I'm of the belief that dude just didn't want to be a Texan anymore. They showed him some love by not placing that tag on him and putting a great contract in front of him. He quickly declined it because dude mind was already made up.

Why don't we understand that TheRealjoker?

If a player doesn't want to be here , let them go.
 
Number19 said:
Yes, before his major injury he was being counted on as being an important cog. Even then CnnnD and myself expressed concerns. Now, again, I’m expressing a concern that his productive return should not be counted on. This is why Blue’s signing is significant.
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I was expecting Texans to take another shot with a third rounder in this important and deep RB class.
I hope the fact they didn't means that they expect Foreman will be just fine.
 
Texansballer74 said:
They could've franchise tagged him for sure. But he could've also bounced for the bigger contract after that as well.

I'm of the belief that dude just didn't want to be a Texan anymore. They showed him some love by not placing that tag on him and putting a great contract in front of him. He quickly declined it because dude mind was already made up.

Why don't we understand that TheRealjoker?

If a player doesn't want to be here , let them go.
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What needs to be understood is that pro athletes don’t have any reason to be loyal to a team they have no ties to... especially when the difference is millions of dollars.

Even DW4 will take more money if another team offers it when his contract is up. The sad truth of professional sports.
 
TheRealJoker said:
They basically did the same thing as the Vikings last offseason. Vikings signed Remmers (a JAG level RT) and Reiff (decent LT notch below Solder). Then drafted Pat Elflein in the 3rd round at center.

Texans brought in Kelemete (JAG level), Fulton (decent starter) and spent a 3rd on Rankin. Plus throw in Henderson as a boom/bust signing and Texans likely to have 4 new OL starters instead of the Vikings 3.
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Reiff is way better than any LT currently on the roster.

Remmers was a starting RT on a SB team. The guys signed this offseason weren't even starters on their teams unless somebody got injured. Surely you can see the difference. Plus they still have a ton of cap space left over and no starter level TE. Also do you feel comfortable with just Miller at RB? He's all they've got right now, even though a guy like Gilleslee probably will get cut at some point.

I'm not talking about what they did this offseason, I'm talking about last offseason, which allowed hem to draft O'Neal and let him learn the ropes next yr.
 
TheRealJoker said:
What needs to be understood is that pro athletes don’t have any reason to be loyal to a team they have no ties to... especially when the difference is millions of dollars.

Even DW4 will take more money if another team offers it when his contract is up. The sad truth of professional sports.
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But according to some no matter the $$$$ players dont want to come to Houston in FA. LOL
 
TheRealJoker said:
He took more money to play elsewhere. He is a pro athlete who doesn’t have any loyalty to this team just like the rest of them.

Franchise tagging him could have given them time to work out a long term deal as well. Transition tag could have allowed them the opportunity to match any offer Bouye received. It’s a business and the team had options to keep him but chose not to pursue said options. Opting instead to let him test the market and find out another team will give him more $.
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They didn't have the cap space to re-sign him.

Whoops
 
steelbtexan said:
Reiff is way better than any LT currently on the roster.

Remmers was a starting RT on a SB team. The guys signed this offseason weren't even starters on their teams unless somebody got injured. Surely you can see the difference. Plus they still have a ton of cap space left over and no starter level TE. Also do you feel comfortable with just Miller at RB? He's all they've got right now, even though a guy like Gilleslee probably will get cut at some point.

I'm not talking about what they did this offseason, I'm talking about last offseason, which allowed hem to draft O'Neal and let him learn the ropes next yr.
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I’m talking about last offseason as well.

Reiff never was and is not better than Duane Brown. He was signed before the Duane Brown holdout officially began. Well according to Rick Smith, it was not a holdout and thus no need to discuss an extension... which surely didn’t help matters haha

Remmers was the weak link on the Panthers OL and Von Miller took full advantage of him. Every team has weaknesses on their roster. Even the ones that make it to the Super Bowl.

Just because a guy started for a Super Bowl team doesn’t mean they aren’t “just a guy” and replaceable.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I’m talking about last offseason as well.

Reiff never was and is not better than Duane Brown. He was signed before the Duane Brown holdout officially began. Well according to Rick Smith, it was not a holdout and thus no need to discuss an extension... which surely didn’t help matters haha

Remmers was the weak link on the Panthers OL and Von Miller took full advantage of him. Every team has weaknesses on their roster. Even the ones that make it to the Super Bowl.

Just because a guy started for a Super Bowl team doesn’t mean they aren’t “just a guy” and replaceable.
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Remmers actually player good at RT last yr and very good at LG. Ricky really misread the tea leaves, what he should've done was sign Reiff and draft Dawkins in the 2nd rd. The fact that he's out of a job because he didn't value the OL is quite refreshing.

BTW, I didn't say that Reiff/Remmers were all pros, just solid STARTING OL. Who did the Texans sign that started game #1 last yr? They signed a bunch of backups that can start at several different positions. Not exactly the cream of the crop. Meanwhile look at what the Jags did in FA.

One trend that you probably notice with the Texans org is that when it comes to paying for top tier FA's the Texans are out, even when they have the cap space. Ask yourself why that is?
 
steelbtexan said:
Remmers actually player good at RT last yr and very good at LG. Ricky really misread the tea leaves, what he should've done was sign Reiff and draft Dawkins in the 2nd rd. The fact that he's out of a job because he didn't value the OL is quite refreshing.

BTW, I didn't say that Reiff/Remmers were all pros, just solid STARTING OL. Who did the Texans sign that started game #1 last yr? They signed a bunch of backups that can start at several different positions. Not exactly the cream of the crop. Meanwhile look at what the Jags did in FA.

One trend that you probably notice with the Texans org is that when it comes to paying for top tier FA's the Texans are out.
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Remmers looked better due to the scheme. Shurmur did a heck of a coaching job and earned a HC job because of it. On top of the OL he overcame losing Bradford and had Keenum playing the best football of his career. Also overcame losing their first round stud RB Dalvin Cook.

Agreed on Dawkins and heck Remmers over Giacomini as well. We have discussed Dawkins and I believe we are “aligned” on that front.

Fulton and Kelemete came from two of the best OLs in the league last season and played the majority of the year. Bouye didn’t start game 1 in 2016 either. Jimmy G didn’t start game 1 in 2017. Both tremendous upgrades on their new teams.

I see what the Jags did in free agency and signing Norwell was good of course. But was overpaying for Moncrief an upgrade on Robinson? Is Sefarian-Jenkins going to be an upgrade on Lewis? Unlikely on Moncrief, maybe a push for ASJ.

Jags are taking full advantage of their Super Bowl window before they have to pay Ramsey and the wheels fall off on Fournette. If a rash of injuries strike their defense like what happened to Houston last season they are screwed just like the Texans were last season.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Remmers looked better due to the scheme. Shurmur did a heck of a coaching job and earned a HC job because of it. On top of the OL he overcame losing Bradford and had Keenum playing the best football of his career. Also overcame losing their first round stud RB Dalvin Cook.

Agreed on Dawkins and heck Remmers over Giacomini as well. We have discussed Dawkins and I believe we are “aligned” on that front.

Fulton and Kelemete came from two of the best OLs in the league last season and played the majority of the year. Bouye didn’t start game 1 in 2016 either. Jimmy G didn’t start game 1 in 2017. Both tremendous upgrades on their new teams.

I see what the Jags did in free agency and signing Norwell was good of course. But was overpaying for Moncrief an upgrade on Robinson? Is Sefarian-Jenkins going to be an upgrade on Lewis? Unlikely on Moncrief, maybe a push for ASJ.

Jags are taking full advantage of their Super Bowl window before they have to pay Ramsey and the wheels fall off on Fournette. If a rash of injuries strike their defense like what happened to Houston last season they are screwed just like the Texans were last season.
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Agreed, but ASJ is far more than a push, now that he's clean, healthy and sober. They just took a flier on Moncreif and I think he can be cut with little cap ramifications.
 
Watching the NFL Channel red zone replay from week 8 and I still can't believe the Texans lost to the Seahawks. The airlines must've misplaced the Texans defensive game plan.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Agreed, but ASJ is far more than a push, now that he's clean, healthy and sober. They just took a flier on Moncreif and I think he can be cut with little cap ramifications.
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I’m just not all that big on ASJ I guess. Didn’t see him do anything that Lewis couldn’t do and that was with the TE whisperer Josh Mccown throwing to him. Now he’s got Bortles.

Jags WR corps are similar to the Texans CB in that they lack a true #1 but have solid players in Lee, Westbrook, Chark and Moncrief. The big difference however is that the Texans have the front 7 making those CBs look better while the Jags WRs have to catch passes from Bortles.

I’m not going to hand the Jags the AFC Conference championship participant banner quite yet.
 
Hindsight is truly 50/50. You do not know if Remmers would've worked out here in Houston.

All because a player played on a SB team does not mean X player would've made your team better. Again it's all on the freaking coaching, having the right type of chemistry and several other factors.

Again dude stop throwing out names of players on your list. As you can see those experts do not think like you. And if it was that easy, why aren't you at least a scout let alone a GM for some professional team.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Hindsight is truly 50/50. You do not know if Remmers would've worked out here in Houston.

All because a player played on a SB team does not mean X player would've made your team better. Again it's all on the freaking coaching, having the right type of chemistry and several other factors.

Again dude stop throwing out names of players on your list. As you can see those experts do not think like you. And if it was that easy, why aren't you at least a scout let alone a GM for some professional team.
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To be fair a tackling dummy would have performed better than Giacomini. Remmers is a JAG and a JAG would be an upgrade over a scab level replacement player. Unless it’s Keanu Reeves.
 
steelbtexan said:
One trend that you probably notice with the Texans org is that when it comes to paying for top tier FA's the Texans are out, even when they have the cap space. Ask yourself why that is?
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Texans just signed Honey badger. TOP FA safety.

Texans outbid Denver for Osweiler. Paid a lot of money for the TOP QB free agent for that off season year.

They lost out on Namdi Asmoaugh -(whatever) but got Johnathan Joseph.

Tell me how to connect the dots?
 
infantrycak said:
To be scary, Giacomini was almost certainly here at the request/on recommendation of our OL coach.

Not getting a new OL coach is my botched opportunity nit with the Texans off-season.
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That really is a concern... I’m not sure what sort of hold Devlin has on OB. OB always gushes about him when it’s brought up.

I think the coaching move of the offseason was the Bears getting Notre Dame’s OL coach Hiestand.

That guy has quite a resume for turning out quality OL. Zach Martin, Ronnie Stanley, Nick Martin and two top 10 picks this year Quenton Nelson and Mike Mcglinchey. He’s going to have that Bears OL amongst the top lines in the league for as long as he’s there.
 
TheRealJoker said:
To be fair a tackling dummy would have performed better than Giacomini. Remmers is a JAG and a JAG would be an upgrade over a scab level replacement player. Unless it’s Keanu Reeves.
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Didn't we think Allen was going to be an upgrade to our offensive line? What in world happened?
 
Texansballer74 said:
Didn't we think Allen was going to be an upgrade to our offensive line? What in world happened?
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Don’t think anyone considered Allen an upgrade at the time. A capable replacement at a cheaper price sure. But not necessarily an upgrade.

But I am prepared to move on from the haunting FA/draft misses of the previous FO if everyone else is... here to hopefully brag about all the awesome moves Gaine and company will be making from here on out!
 
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TheRealJoker said:
That really is a concern... I’m not sure what sort of hold Devlin has on OB. OB always gushes about him when it’s brought up.

I think the coaching move of the offseason was the Bears getting Notre Dame’s OL coach Hiestand.

That guy has quite a resume for turning out quality OL. Zach Martin, Ronnie Stanley, Nick Martin and two top 10 picks this year Quenton Nelson and Mike Mcglinchey. He’s going to have that Bears OL amongst the top lines in the league for as long as he’s there.
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Bears must be hoping that Trubisky will be okay with a line in front of him.
 
TexansBull said:
Texans just signed Honey badger. TOP FA safety.

Texans outbid Denver for Osweiler. Paid a lot of money for the TOP QB free agent for that off season year.

They lost out on Namdi Asmoaugh -(whatever) but got Johnathan Joseph.

Tell me how to connect the dots?
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They got Mathieu on the cheap.

They spent top $$$$ trying to find a QB after Hoyer had a historically bad playoff game.

They signed Joseph/Manning after having a historically bad pass defense.

In other words the McNairs have only spent $$$$ on top end FA's when something is historically bad. Did you notice that after McNair spent $$$$ on Joseph/Manning that the next 2 seasons were the best in franchise history? Then look at how the Eagles/Pats/Vikings/Jags final 4 teams were built and compare and contrast.
 
Texansphan said:
Bears must be hoping that Trubisky will be okay with a line in front of him.
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Not this yr, as long as Bobbie Massie is playing OT and Kyle Long gets hurt again after 2-3 games.

Atleast Pace got Trubisky people who can get open unlike last yr. Robinson/Miller/Gabriel/Burton/Sheehan/Cohen/Howard are pretty good weapons and they accomplished this in 2 offseasons.
 
Texansphan said:
Bears must be hoping that Trubisky will be okay with a line in front of him.
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Upgraded OL, skill players and COACHING! Yeah he should be OK.

I think James Daniels was the top center in the draft and they got him in the 2nd round. Whitehair, Long and Daniels form an excellent nucleus for the interior OL.
 
infantrycak said:
Todd Wade was the top OT that off-season.
Anthony Weaver was top his.
Antonio Smith was a top FA.
Robaire Smith was a top FA.
Ed Reed wasn't cheap.
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Don’t bring Todd Wade into this! Hahaha

http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2520094
Houston acquired Wade as an unrestricted free agent in the spring of 2004, rewarding the former Miami Dolphins starter with a six-year, $30 million contract that included a $10 million signing bonus. Over two years, the Texans paid Wade $12 million in bonuses and salaries, but he never lived up to expectations as the Houston line continued to struggle.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Wade signed 6 yrs 30 million in 04.

Remmers 5 yrs 30 million in 2017. Time value of money and all. They spent $$
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That was when they were an expansion team and had to spend $$$$ to fill out the roster. Even if I grant you Wade, spending $$$$ on 4 top tier FA's in 15 yrs should tell you all you need to know. Tell me what the teams I listed did in the last yr and I know the Pats did most of their moves thru trade, even though they did add Gilmore last offseason in FA.
 
steelbtexan said:
That was when they were an expansion team and had to spend $$$$ to fill out the roster. Even if I grant you Wade, spending $$$$ on 4 top tier FA's in 15 yrs should tell you all you need to know. Tell me what the teams I listed did in the last yr and I know the Pats did most of their moves thru trade, even though they did add Gilmore last offseason in FA.
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The team was in cap hell after the 2011 season. Had to let good players like Mario, Demeco, Brisiel and Winston walk because they spent too much $. Usually the Texans shell out big bucks on their own players and more often than not in the past it hasn’t worked out due to injury (before or after signing the contract... looking at you Cushing).

The team has spent money in the draft, FA, etc. just like every other team. Except maybe the Bengals. They have always been pretty tight with their money.

The only seasons where the team blatantly did not make an effort to improve the roster was 2012 because they were against the cap as mentioned and last offseason. And Rick Smith took the fall for that.
 
Earl34 said:
After reviewing tape of him playing LG, they signed him, then immediately moved him to RG.

Not everyone can play both sides of the OL. Not all CBs can play S. But it appears, many fans, coaches and front offices think it's a simple switch.
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I really hope the light bulb goes off for someone this offseason and they come to the realization that moving Allen back to LG is his best shot at success. He’s a left side OL. Looked better at LT than he did at RG.
 
Earl34 said:
After reviewing tape of him playing LG, they signed him, then immediately moved him to RG.

Not everyone can play both sides of the OL. Not all CBs can play S. But it appears, many fans, coaches and front offices think it's a simple switch.
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Earl that was my main point. COACHING

That's why I don't believe bringing in Steel list of players would've worked. The coaching has to improve
 
Does NE move their guys all along the oline? Where did OB get this theory from?
Do all they other teams in this league do it? Is OB ahead of the curve on this one?
 
Texansballer74 said:
Quite a few teams use this method. The Saints had Kelemete moving all over the line for years.
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Well that's a bit like saying all teams use zone blocking. True statement but the degree varies wildly. It's one thing to move reserves around. It's even different to try someone at a position to see if it suits better. But OB seems to want/treat OL positions as if they're fungible. And with starters. X was an assumed starter and they kept moving him around. Take your best shot 1st and then move them in an emergency.
 
infantrycak said:
Well that's a bit like saying all teams use zone blocking. True statement but the degree varies wildly. It's one thing to move reserves around. It's even different to try someone at a position to see if it suits better. But OB seems to want/treat OL positions as if they're fungible. And with starters. X was an assumed starter and they kept moving him around. Take your best shot 1st and then move them in an emergency.
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Agreed. I do not like this method at all. I've experienced that several times on here. Bill seems to think he use this college method on this level. I really hope he will scratch this from his mindset.
 
I feel like OB doesn't put his guys in a position to succeed on the oline, thank God he doesn't meddle with the D. Oh wait There was that promotion last year
 
infantrycak said:
Well that's a bit like saying all teams use zone blocking. True statement but the degree varies wildly. It's one thing to move reserves around. It's even different to try someone at a position to see if it suits better. But OB seems to want/treat OL positions as if they're fungible. And with starters. X was an assumed starter and they kept moving him around. Take your best shot 1st and then move them in an emergency.
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I can’t help but think OB had a traumatic experience early in his coaching career where he must’ve lost 3-4 OL in a single game and had to play people out of position. Naturally he made a vow that, “From this point on every OL on his roster will know every position! Even if that means they wont be very good at the position they are starting at!”

Yeah he needs therapy.
 
Thorn said:
Entirely possible. But I've been beaten down by the entire Houston pro-football thing to many times to be anything but pessimistic. Hopeful, but pessimistic.

And OB hasn't proven himself to me yet. We'll see. We probably got as good a chance as anybody this year. At least Rick isn't here, and Gaine seems to be OK. Indy won't do much this year without Luck, and it remains to be seen if any of the Texans, Titans or Jaguars get their act together and keep it together.
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yep, most everyone thought 2011 was the Texans year then fat albert happened. Then 2012 was looking good until the end. Most everyone thought that 2013 could be the year after week 2, but then Schaub proved Doc to be prescient.
 
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TheRealJoker said:
I can’t help but think OB had a traumatic experience early in his coaching career where he must’ve lost 3-4 OL in a single game and had to play people out of position. Naturally he made a vow that, “From this point on every OL on his roster will know every position! Even if that means they wont be very good at the position they are starting at!”

Yeah he needs therapy.
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Man sounds like the mack Brown complex when he lost colt McCoy in the title game I think 2009 v Bama. After that he vowed to be a power program and the wheels fell off the entire Texas program after that
 
TheRealJoker said:
Lots of teams use the franchise tag or even transition tag in that situation. We chose not to do that despite having the cap space to do so.
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most didn't think he was worth the tag after his one good season. It was thought KJO would rebound better than he showed last year
 
steelbtexan said:
Good for you,

Trying to fix the OL with a bunch of backups may work IF Watson can stay healthy, but I would say that's a 50/50 proposition at this point. Will the OL be better next yr than last? Sure they will be better, they cant be worse. But are they championship quality? If you think they are then that's true fandom right there. There's a reason Vegas (Those guys usually know what they're doing) has the Texans only winning 4 more games than last yr.
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pfft, they are setting odds to get the most money played... they also have damn near every playoff team from last year winning fewer games next year
 
steelbtexan said:
One trend that you probably notice with the Texans org is that when it comes to paying for top tier FA's the Texans are out, even when they have the cap space. Ask yourself why that is?
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steelbtexan said:
They got Mathieu on the cheap.

They spent top $$$$ trying to find a QB after Hoyer had a historically bad playoff game.

They signed Joseph/Manning after having a historically bad pass defense.

In other words the McNairs have only spent $$$$ on top end FA's when something is historically bad. Did you notice that after McNair spent $$$$ on Joseph/Manning that the next 2 seasons were the best in franchise history? Then look at how the Eagles/Pats/Vikings/Jags final 4 teams were built and compare and contrast.
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Makes no sense at all.

First you say they never get the top FA. And then you say, after pointed out they actually do, when they do it’s only because they need to. That’s part of the point of FA.

When do you expect them to go after a top free agent and break the bank?

New England built their team around a GOAT QB they lucked into.

The Eagles traded up to get a franchise QB. Before that they were a Chip Kelly experiment gone horribly wrong.

Minnesota just let all three QBs they had this past season and hope to repeat success with a top QB free agent. They were a Cinderella team this year and won against the odds with a third string QB who they let go. They just got done wasting a HOF career RB with their own QB turnstile.

And Jags are no measure of success. A high powered defense with a go nowhere QB. (Been there done that.) Another one hit wonder. They just barely got back to the playoffs after how long?

All four had a large amount of luck this past year with the exception of NE because of Brady. And we have tried/trying those strategies at one point or another.
 
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