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BADBOY's 2018 TEXANS offseason

1st from an old Marine tell your son thanks for his service. Why can't Solder and Norwell be signed? Contracts can be adjusted greatly. Player focuses on signing bonus as cash in hand but that can be spread over contract. Next is guaranteed $ as was Hopkins and often is 1-3 years. Player & agent want total amount high for bragging. We can sign both and Some others also.
 
badboy said:
Being reported Giants planning to sign Norwell to biggest deal for OG NFL history.
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This is the kind of thing I thought would happen and the reason I stated in my post above from Feb 2nd, "The best I think you could hope for would be to have a chance at signing one of those O-linemen." Heck, we don't even know yet if the Panthers will try to resign him or just tag him leaving the Giants empty handed. Unfortunately for the Texans, O-linemen are at a premium this off season and the bidding for the few good ones that are out there is going to be through the roof!

I think the Texans best bet is to make a run at either Solder, Sitton (Who the Bears just released.), or Fleming and hope they get their man. I also think the Pats will resign either Solder or Fleming but probably not both so the Texans, and everybody else, will be able to make a run on whichever one the Pats let go. If the Texans could come away with just one of these 3 I think it would be a successful FA period for them, as far as the O-line goes, and should go a long way in shoring up at least one spot on the line.
 
Insideop said:
This is the kind of thing I thought would happen and the reason I stated in my post above from Feb 2nd, "The best I think you could hope for would be to have a chance at signing one of those O-linemen." Heck, we don't even know yet if the Panthers will try to resign him or just tag him leaving the Giants empty handed. Unfortunately for the Texans, O-linemen are at a premium this off season and the bidding for the few good ones that are out there is going to be through the roof!

I think the Texans best bet is to make a run at either Solder, Sitton (Who the Bears just released.), or Fleming and hope they get their man. I also think the Pats will resign either Solder or Fleming but probably not both so the Texans, and everybody else, will be able to make a run on whichever one the Pats let go. If the Texans could come away with just one of these 3 I think it would be a successful FA period for them, as far as the O-line goes, and should go a long way in shoring up at least one spot on the line.
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If I have to pick my poison...get Solder signed at all cost.

If I can't be in on the OL sweepstakes, then I'd like to put a premium on a few more needs. Target Butler (CB - Patriots), JJo (Very reasonable contract), Watkins (WR - Rams), and maybe McFadden (RB - Titans / Should be a very reasonable acquisition).

If Texans want in on the Norwell bidding, this is the baseline of the highest paid NFL OG:

Kevin Zeitler (Browns)
5 Yrs @ 60M (2017-2021)
12.0M Signing Bonus
31.5M Guaranteed
23.0M Guaranteed At Signing

2017, 18 & 19 Are His Locked Years:
2017
BS: 6.0M / S: 2.4M / CH: 8.4M / DC: 23M

2018
10.0M / 2.4M / 12.4M / 14.6M

2019
10.0M / 2.4M / 12.4M / 10.7M

2020 is the available out season.

2020
DC: 4.8M

2021
DC: 2.4M

Texans could survive financially if they have the desire to outbid the Giants. Zeitler just payed his first season as the highest paid OG.....how much do you folks think the Giants are willing to move bar one season later?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
If I have to pick my poison...get Solder signed at all cost.

If I can't be in on the OL sweepstakes, then I'd like to put a premium on a few more needs. Target Butler (CB - Patriots), JJo (Very reasonable contract), Watkins (WR - Rams), and maybe McFadden (RB - Titans / Should be a very reasonable acquisition).

If Texans want in on the Norwell bidding, this is the baseline of the highest paid NFL OG:

Kevin Zeitler (Browns)
5 Yrs @ 60M (2017-2021)
12.0M Signing Bonus
31.5M Guaranteed
23.0M Guaranteed At Signing

Texans could survive financially if they have the desire to outbid the Giants. Zeitler just payed his first season as the highest paid OG.....how much do you folks think the Giants are willing to move bar one season later?
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Solder could be the Texans target and he's the one I think could be released by the Pats instead of Fleming. He should command a higher salary than Fleming just by the position he plays (LT vs RT for Fleming). The big question we don't know is what is "Belicheat" thinking/planing? The Pats have less than $14 million in cap space (OTC) which will hinder them from being players in the FA market, and with both their LT and RT up for contract, one probably has to go unless they can make some cuts (Butler, etc...) and gain enough to sign both. I don't think they ("Belicheat") will go that way. If I had to guess I think they keep Fleming because he is younger and less expensive, then draft a LT in the 1st or 2nd round, but that is just a guess. The Pats always seem to find a way to put a decent O-line around Brady and keep him upright with Bernard Pollard the only one to KO him for a season!

Yes, the Texans could survive a bidding war with the Giants and get Norwell. OTC has the Texans with the 6th most cap space and the Giants with the 14th most, almost $40 million behind the Texans. I'm not sure they should go this route though. They still have a lot of other holes to fill and I certainly don't think anyone on here wants to see them back in "cap hell" again! I know Norwell is tempting and I'm wondering if the Texans will make a run for him or not. I guess either way it will make for good "fodder" on here about Gaine/BOB. :D
 
JB said:
Bad link, but pure speculation based on this tweet

whoever Chad Forbes is ...
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IIRC, he is "NFL draft analyst" which doesn't clarify much. As we all know many article written, quote 'Bob' who read another article by Jane who heard Willie say someone said...
 
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Insideop said:
This is the kind of thing I thought would happen and the reason I stated in my post above from Feb 2nd, "The best I think you could hope for would be to have a chance at signing one of those O-linemen." Heck, we don't even know yet if the Panthers will try to resign him or just tag him leaving the Giants empty handed. Unfortunately for the Texans, O-linemen are at a premium this off season and the bidding for the few good ones that are out there is going to be through the roof!

I think the Texans best bet is to make a run at either Solder, Sitton (Who the Bears just released.), or Fleming and hope they get their man. I also think the Pats will resign either Solder or Fleming but probably not both so the Texans, and everybody else, will be able to make a run on whichever one the Pats let go. If the Texans could come away with just one of these 3 I think it would be a successful FA period for them, as far as the O-line goes, and should go a long way in shoring up at least one spot on the line.
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Panthers allegedly cap stressed and can't afford Norwell + franchise way to high.
I am greedy.
 
I've been looking hard at Rashad Penny..guy has mucho skills. RB transfers well to NFL often and he seems to have that 'radar' that the great backs have; production is amazing and I think he can replace Miller. Foreman's ability to play would seal it. I like TBs from UDFA but Penny could be one of the greats. Ervin is too much of question for me. If Penny is there for 3rd round comp..think I would get him even if Miller hangs on one more year. Of course, OLine signings will impact what we do in draft.
 
Mike Hughes: possible franchise type corner. Even if we sign two in FA, hard for me to pass on him if he falls to us. Most sites have him upper half second round with one ranking him end of first round.

RB Rashad Penny..trying to think of whom he reminds me of. He is better end around than Lamar Miller and while not a 'power' back he seems to find slivers of space between tackles. If he gets into the box, he could be gone.

Texas safety Deshon Elliott could replace KJackson game one. He is great against anything coming into box yet has skills and quickness to cover.

WR Anthony Miller can be found all over rankings but watching his amazing catches, I kept saying..HOPKINS. I am not replacing Nuk but getting another one like him would be....magic (Tom Hanks).
 
badboy said:
I've been looking hard at Rashad Penny..guy has mucho skills. RB transfers well to NFL often and he seems to have that 'radar' that the great backs have; production is amazing and I think he can replace Miller. Foreman's ability to play would seal it. I like TBs from UDFA but Penny could be one of the greats. Ervin is too much of question for me. If Penny is there for 3rd round comp..think I would get him even if Miller hangs on one more year. Of course, OLine signings will impact what we do in draft.
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Not sure the Texans will draft a RB in the 3rd rd and a lot could depend on Foremans health and his projected return. If Foreman's rehab is good and they think he will return to normal they may draft a RB in the late rounds or pick up an UDFA or two. A RB to keep an eye on in the later rounds is Lavon Coleman, 5-11, 235, from Washington.
 
Insideop said:
Not sure the Texans will draft a RB in the 3rd rd and a lot could depend on Foremans health and his projected return. If Foreman's rehab is good and they think he will return to normal they may draft a RB in the late rounds or pick up an UDFA or two. A RB to keep an eye on in the later rounds is Lavon Coleman, 5-11, 235, from Washington.
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Totally agree. But..Foreman and a younger better Miller plus #4? Whooee
 
badboy said:
WR Anthony Miller can be found all over rankings but watching his amazing catches, I kept saying..HOPKINS. I am not replacing Nuk but getting another one like him would be....magic (Tom Hanks).
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Miller could be a steal for some team. He can do damage on short, intermediate, and deep routes. A triple threat.
 
Definitely, he was awesome at Memphis after Riley showed up and I can only imagine what he'd become with a Watson throwing to him. He can play all spots including slot.
 
I know it will not happen but think it would be interesting to see Dylan Cole at Rb. We need him at LB but his heart and skill set screams running back. Dude is super strong reasonably fast with decent hands.

High School: Was a Missouri Class 3 consensus all-state running back after he compiled 2,002 rushing yards on 225 carries for 33 touchdowns for the state champions at Logan-Rogersville High in 2011 ... Also caught 23 passes for 511 yards and another 10 scores for the Wildcats and coach Doug Smith ... Logan-Rogersville was 14-1 his senior year ... Registered 102 total tack
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http://missouristatebears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=931
 
Very interesting; I was very interested in him when he came out of college.
he Miami Dolphins are attempting to trade the last player that remains from the franchise’s 2014 draft class.

Ja’Wuan James, the team’s 2014 first-round pick, is being shopped to teams seeking offensive line help, and could be moved before the start of free agency on Wednesday, according to a league source.It is quite possible that one of those teams might prefer to trade for James, who is on the fifth-year option of his contract, which guarantees the four-year starter $9.34 million for the 2018 season. James’ contract becomes fully guaranteed Wednesday at 4 p.m. If the Dolphins can’t trade James, who has started all 47 games he played at right tackle the past four seasons, it is possible that Miami will release him to clear additional cap space. James’ possible release could complicate getting a trade done because some teams might prefer to wait for him to become an unrestricted free agent.
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rest here : http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-jawuan-james-20180311-story.html
 
PFF rating for RT James is 80. If my "dream" off season happen it would allow a BPA scenario and/or a trade up possibility in April that I don't see now.
 
PFF rating for RT James is 80. If my "dream" off season happen it would allow a BPA scenario and/or a trade up possibility in April that I don't see now.
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The article didn't say what his injury was. Does anybody know how serious it was? Other than that it sounds like he would be an immediate upgrade over Giacomini at RT. I know that's not saying much but it's still a start.
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First I heard was hamstring and I asked CnnnD to inform us but since then other sources and links from late 2017 say "groin". He was ranked #2 RT before injury and missed last seven games. He started 494 snaps + 22 on Special Teams. Allowed only one sack first 9 games.

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Dolphins head coach Adam Gase said Wednesday that James (hamstring) has received full medical clearance, Joe Schad of The Palm Beach Post reports.
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badboy said:
PFF rating for RT James is 80. If my "dream" off season happen it would allow a BPA scenario and/or a trade up possibility in April that I don't see now.

First I heard was hamstring and I asked CnnnD to inform us but since then other sources and links from late 2017 say "groin". He was ranked #2 RT before injury and missed last seven games. He started 494 snaps + 22 on Special Teams. Allowed only one sack first 9 games.
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None of the injuries listed (hamstring, groin, ankle, toe) between you and PapaL seem to be career ending or anything other than normal football injuries accumulated over time by NFL players. But, we all know how that goes and I would think the Texans wouldn't give any stamp of approval without a thorough physical. He's still young (25 yrs) so, if he hits the market, there's going to be a lot of interest. Do you think the Texans should trade for him now before he becomes a FA? If so, what would you give in return?
 
Insideop said:
None of the injuries listed (hamstring, groin, ankle, toe) between you and PapaL seem to be career ending or anything other than normal football injuries accumulated over time by NFL players. But, we all know how that goes and I would think the Texans wouldn't give any stamp of approval without a thorough physical. He's still young (25 yrs) so, if he hits the market, there's going to be a lot of interest. Do you think the Texans should trade for him now before he becomes a FA? If so, what would you give in return?
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I said in another thread 5th in 2019 should do it but now i'm thinking a 7th next year if you even want to trade for him. Dolphins are over the cap and need to make moves. He will likely be released... only reason to trade for him is to get his rights and keep from having to bid for him on the open market. Texans have the cap room to win the bidding war so really have all the leverage if they want him.
 
Doc responded in injury thread on my concern on James' injury could be tendon rather than muscle which could lead to future problems. If healthy I would prob trade for him if he would agree to long term agreement. I'm not concerned paying him his 2O18 salary but that groin/hamstring bothers me. My research indicates healed successfully but CnnnD is right way too often for me. A deal with incentives would lower $ concerns perhaps but IMO team cannot risk missing on a vet starter on line. I don't trust Texans physicians either.
 
Tre Burton free agent TE responded to question on NFL network affirming a "team with horns coming out of helmet" had reached out to him? Rams or are Texans possibility?
 
Ok it is now 15 minutes into Weds March 13 and I am going to predict free agent signings for Houston in no particular order

1. CB Malcom Butler
2. LT Nate Solder
3. OG Josh Sitton
4. CB Johnathan Joseph
5. a safety but not sure who as they might use a third on someone like Elliott or Quin Blanding (crazy stats) or Godwin Igwebuike. I am going to guess Marquis Gilchrist will be brought back. He played for $3 million and should get a $5 m avg for three or four years. Texans surprised me with Corey Moore who was cheap but not that impressive.
Also predicting Allen will be the LG with Sitton on the right side. Would Solder move to right tackle at some point as Davenport gets opportunity to start at LT before 2018 over?

Predicting a RT will be drafted that will start : possibles Brian O'neill, Martinas Rankin or Crosby. If Allen flunks out as LG, Sitton moves to LG and Crosby goes to RG.
 
badboy said:
Ok it is now 15 minutes into Weds March 13 and I am going to predict free agent signings for Houston in no particular order

1. CB Malcom Butler
2. LT Nate Solder
3. OG Josh Sitton
4. CB Johnathan Joseph
5. a safety but not sure who as they might use a third on someone like Elliott or Quin Blanding (crazy stats) or Godwin Igwebuike. I am going to guess Marquis Gilchrist will be brought back. He played for $3 million and should get a $5 m avg for three or four years. Texans surprised me with Corey Moore who was cheap but not that impressive.
Also predicting Allen will be the LG with Sitton on the right side. Would Solder move to right tackle at some point as Davenport gets opportunity to start at LT before 2018 over?

Predicting a RT will be drafted that will start : possibles Brian O'neill, Martinas Rankin or Crosby. If Allen flunks out as LG, Sitton moves to LG and Crosby goes to RG.
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Looks like a winner to me.

Tell me more about Fulton
 
badboy said:
Ok it is now 15 minutes into Weds March 13 and I am going to predict free agent signings for Houston in no particular order

1. CB Malcom Butler
2. LT Nate Solder
3. OG Josh Sitton
4. CB Johnathan Joseph
5. a safety but not sure who as they might use a third on someone like Elliott or Quin Blanding (crazy stats) or Godwin Igwebuike. I am going to guess Marquis Gilchrist will be brought back. He played for $3 million and should get a $5 m avg for three or four years. Texans surprised me with Corey Moore who was cheap but not that impressive.
Also predicting Allen will be the LG with Sitton on the right side. Would Solder move to right tackle at some point as Davenport gets opportunity to start at LT before 2018 over?

Predicting a RT will be drafted that will start : possibles Brian O'neill, Martinas Rankin or Crosby. If Allen flunks out as LG, Sitton moves to LG and Crosby goes to RG.
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You could be right about Sitton but I haven't heard anything about them pursuing him. It will more likely be Zach Fulton from the Chiefs that they get for the OG spot. They are evidently in hot pursuit of him according to chron.com. https://www.chron.com/sports/texans...g-strong-push-for-Chiefs-OL-Zach-12748137.php
 
badboy said:
Ok it is now 15 minutes into Weds March 13 and I am going to predict free agent signings for Houston in no particular order

1. CB Malcom Butler
2. LT Nate Solder
3. OG Josh Sitton
4. CB Johnathan Joseph
5. a safety but not sure who as they might use a third on someone like Elliott or Quin Blanding (crazy stats) or Godwin Igwebuike. I am going to guess Marquis Gilchrist will be brought back. He played for $3 million and should get a $5 m avg for three or four years. Texans surprised me with Corey Moore who was cheap but not that impressive.
Also predicting Allen will be the LG with Sitton on the right side. Would Solder move to right tackle at some point as Davenport gets opportunity to start at LT before 2018 over?

Predicting a RT will be drafted that will start : possibles Brian O'neill, Martinas Rankin or Crosby. If Allen flunks out as LG, Sitton moves to LG and Crosby goes to RG.
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Interesting that today I'm getting info I haven't gotten before. CB Colvin is getting 100% approval from my sources & all consider him more than just a slot and as he has said he could play either outside position and is considered a zone or off man coverage guy. He was moved to safety his sophomore season with very good season with 12 starts but had a concussion and in that off season has shoulder surgery. 2012 returned to corner and had good season in 2013 but again had shoulder injuries and turf toe; missing couple games with concussion. January 2013 tore right ACL missing combine. He had knee injury 2014, shoulder 2015, calf & ankle and another concussion 2016 but healthy 2017. Mentally sharp rather than athletic which allows him to cover faster/quicker guys. He understands and identifies WR routes very quickly and doesn't allow QB to get a good target view as he is all over his opponent. 4 years $34 million with $18 guaranteed. Butler supposedly being way over paid. If healthy and if he can play outside he could be a very good deal. If Joseph is back and another CB signed then it will appear KJ may move to safety.
I don't see Gaines paying Colvin this $ to play slot but they could still get EJ Gaines and I'm hearing that could be announced tomorrow. PFF reports that in 728 snaps Colvin has not allowed a TD. In 2017 in 449 snaps he allowed .75 yard versus slot WR. That is crazy good. This choice of player reminds me of a Daryl Morey evaluation and signing.

Fulton 6'5 320+ was ranked 8th best center in pass protection 14th over all. At OG he was 14th best pass blocking and 22nd overall.

Henderson 6'6 330 is getting rave reviews which also surprises me. The one year offer is smart.

Also Butler going elsewhere seems to be creating a huge sigh of relief by many. Nate Solder not getting the love that I had thought he would. Most say he will not sign with Texans.
 
Insideop said:
You could be right about Sitton but I haven't heard anything about them pursuing him. It will more likely be Zach Fulton from the Chiefs that they get for the OG spot. They are evidently in hot pursuit of him according to chron.com. https://www.chron.com/sports/texans...g-strong-push-for-Chiefs-OL-Zach-12748137.php
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what did we hear about Texans pursuing Colvin before it was announced? Fulton seems a smart move if Martin nor Mancz can not start at center and is the ultimate O'Brien player who can play more than one spot.
 
badboy said:
what did we hear about Texans pursuing Colvin before it was announced? Fulton seems a smart move if Martin nor Mancz can not start at center and is the ultimate O'Brien player who can play more than one spot.
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I was high on the Texans getting Sitton too until I read this from another post: http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-...several-layers-to-packers-cutting-josh-sitton

I know Sitton is a 3 time Pro Bowler and would be a good upgrade in talent for the Texans but I don't think there's any way BOB would want a player like this on the team. Not sure I would want him either. JMO.
 
He disagreed with plays called after losing to Arizona in 2015 per link above. Doesn't concern me at all; perhaps there is more that happened currently?
 
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He disagreed with plays called after losing to Arizona in 2015 per link above. Doesn't concern me at all; perhaps there is more that happened currently?
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Looks like the Bears didn’t want a locker room lawyer, either. The Texans could use a wily vet on the offensive line. Don’t know if Sitton would be that leader.
 
Lucky said:
Looks like the Bears didn’t want a locker room lawyer, either. The Texans could use a wily vet on the offensive line. Don’t know if Sitton would be that leader.
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I don't care if he is a leader just block. There has been no reports of him criticising plays for two seasons..not a lawyer IMO.
 
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