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Duane Brown traded to Seahawks

infantrycak said:
I pointed them out last time and you paid no attention.

But for example the article missed that the players are paid by the league not the teams in the playoffs. Pretty basic fact for your ASSumption to miss.
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Travel and expenses aren't paid by the league.

This is going nowhere.

I'm tired of wasting my time.
 
Double Barrel said:
So if Brown is hurt first game in 2017 then no guarantee for 2018? Is that correct?



His statement also supported what Brown was saying. Brown wanted long term security, not just season to season.

It's just business.



You sort of come across as a Texans apologist. If that is not your intent, perhaps you should present yourself differently. For me, it's just entertainment. For McNair and Brown, it's their business.

But that's just my perception of your post.

However, there are clearly some personal feelings by other posters in this thread. Straight up butthurt from grown freakin' men. It's sad, really (not you, but clearly others).



DB is top 5 Texans player of all time (some could argue top 3). He deserved more respect from this organization, or at least how the organization tries to spin itself.

He was widely considered a shoo-in for the Texans Ring of Honor before this situation, so why is it difficult to comprehend that his talent was assumed to be valued by this franchise?

Oh, and good luck finding another pro-bowl LT anytime soon.



McNair is a fool for walking into a predominantly black locker room and bringing up the Obama election in the manner that he presented it. There is a time and place, and that certainly was poor judgment on his part. Bob McNair poisoned the waters. So folks should not act surprised when those waters end up poisoning relationships with the organization that he owns.
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Where are you getting that DB is a top 5 player?? Lol
 
Why is this guy back in the Houston lime light?

He abandon the team that paid him 9 million this year and easily a possible second contract. Of all the years we needed him 2017 was the most critical with a QB change and very anemic line. So he sat and forced a trade.
 
Uncle Rico said:
https://www.battleredblog.com/2018/2/16/17019204/duane-brown-deserved-better

Read that again. The situation is over and "meh" is the right expression, but painting Duane in a negative light and allowing the team a pass is not the reality.
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I read it again and still at "meh". The Texans have every right to tell a player that they can't protest the national anthem as freedom of speech doesn't extend to the workplace and the Texans have only extended 2 players with more than 1 year left on their contracts. The Texans were also wise to believe that DB wouldn't be as good as was pre-injury.
 
DocBar said:
I read it again and still at "meh". The Texans have every right to tell a player that they can't protest the national anthem as freedom of speech doesn't extend to the workplace and the Texans have only extended 2 players with more than 1 year left on their contracts. The Texans were also wise to believe that DB wouldn't be as good as was pre-injury.
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Which is why he was let go.

But the Texans org did screw this up. If they would've guaranteed this season DB would still be a Texans, even without the extension. DB would've been a nice bridge to davenport draft pick next yr. DB still while not as good as he used to be would still be the Texans best OL next yr.
 
steelbtexan said:
Which is why he was let go.

But the Texans org did screw this up. If they would've guaranteed this season DB would still be a Texans, even without the extension. DB would've been a nice bridge to davenport draft pick next yr. DB still while not as good as he used to be would still be the Texans best OL next yr.
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Each year would have been guaranteed if he played. This has been discussed before. He wanted more and said so in the recent interview with Foster. He was concerned he could be hurt which would impact future years. That same concern was held by Texans.
 
infantrycak said:
Apparently he was over rated by the all pro & pro bowl folks too then.

DeMeco would have been if not injured.
Dunta's no pro bowl butt, no.
Glenn was only a Texan for 3 years.
Schaub I'll give you.
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I’ll put Cushing and Clowney over DB as well. Obviously we have different standards on how we rank guys. DB was an above average LT who really never dominated play. Everyone else I named was dominant at one point for the Texans.
 
infantrycak said:
Dunta was never dominant.
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No, but he could've been - there seems to be a theme in my recent posts about our crippled Texans. Dunta hangs with Theismann (and Zach Miller) as one of the most gnarly injuries I've seen. Stopped and planted before the pile and hit behind by a teammate - everything went the wrong direction, I'm still baffled that it wasn't worse. Dunta may never have been great because he didn't get the coaching - but he had instincts, athleticism and fearlessness. Dunta is planted in my brain because I've NEVER (not Champ, not Deion, not nobody) seen anyone with that kind of top end closing speed, dude was his own safety. The things Vance Joseph, Wade Phillips or Romeo Crennell could have done with a young Dunta are quite intriguing.
 
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mussop said:
I’ll put Cushing and Clowney over DB as well. Obviously we have different standards on how we rank guys. DB was an above average LT who really never dominated play. Everyone else I named was dominant at one point for the Texans.
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When healthy, Brown was a good-great pass blocker and an absolute road-grader in the Run. Let's not get too revisionist history now that he's gone.
 
mussop said:
I’ll put Cushing and Clowney over DB as well. Obviously we have different standards on how we rank guys. DB was an above average LT who really never dominated play. Everyone else I named was dominant at one point for the Texans.
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Whoa ... DB dominated. I think I wrote a pretty good piece on Cushing's lost potential as a fan of his, and Clowney has had a strong 2 seasons (more against the run than as a pass rusher), but they don't combine to equal what DB has done. Don't let feelings cloud judgement.
 
disaacks3 said:
When healthy, Brown was a good-great pass blocker and an absolute road-grader in the Run. Let's not get too revisionist history now that he's gone.
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I believe that if anything Brown has been vastly underrated by Texans fans from the start. Even if he was not a league all time great or anything, he has been consistently better at this position (OLT) than all the Dunta, Ryans, etc named earlier in this thread. Heck, It seemed like four or five years of above average starting, before posters stop claiming that the "reached" for him after trading down in the 1st round.

The last couple of years of contracts and social/political statement doesn't help with clarity of long-term performance over the person, Duane Brown.
 
mussop said:
I’ll put Cushing and Clowney over DB as well. Obviously we have different standards on how we rank guys. DB was an above average LT who really never dominated play. Everyone else I named was dominant at one point for the Texans.
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Dude you're really reaching. Just stop the madness already. Geeezzz
 
Duane Brown will now make more than $14 million this year
July 28, 2018, 3:43 PM EDT

The Seahawks and left tackle Duane Brown have gotten the deal done.

Per a league source, Brown will make more than $14 million this year under a three-year extension with a maximum value of $36.5 million.

Coupled with the $9.75 million Brown was due to earn in 2018, it’s a four-year, $46.25 million package.

The deal includes $16 million guaranteed, and he’ll make $24 million in the first two years by meeting a minimal playing-time incentive this season.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Duane Brown will now make more than $14 million this year
July 28, 2018, 3:43 PM EDT

The Seahawks and left tackle Duane Brown have gotten the deal done.

Per a league source, Brown will make more than $14 million this year under a three-year extension with a maximum value of $36.5 million.

Coupled with the $9.75 million Brown was due to earn in 2018, it’s a four-year, $46.25 million package.

The deal includes $16 million guaranteed, and he’ll make $24 million in the first two years by meeting a minimal playing-time incentive this season.
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Good contract now that we know what the market is for above average LTs. Sure do wish Texans would have handled the whole DB situation better. But maybe they can make something out of the picks they received.
 
Lucky said:
$11.5 million/year puts Brown at 12th in avg/year at LT. 14th in guaranteed $$$. And Rick Brown wouldn't extend Brown for that? No, the Brown thing was never about $$$ for the Texans.
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This post says it all,

Believe it or not I agree with McNair on this. DB was bad for business and had to go.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I thought you were generally a football before business guy?
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I am,

But I'm a business guy too, winning is usually good for business. But the kneelers are bad for business even if they win on the field.

You cant do things at work that the paying customers cant do at work and not expect there to be repercussions.

The activist crowd may not like that fact, but it is what it is.
 
infantrycak said:
The paying customers play the national anthem at work?
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I don't know where you work at, but I can't conduct political protests at my job.. also when I'm at work I represent my company and if I caused a bunch of negative opinions of my company that effected revenue I most certainly would be fired.

If you want them to do away with the anthem, that's fine..frankly I'm tired of the whole issue. It was just not a well thought out protest strategy/plan..it pissed off so many people that they no longer even talk about what the players were protesting. It was nothing, but divisive, but sadly that seems to be just like everything else in this country today.

Oh well, that's all I'll say about it, because this topic is a slippery slope and I don't want to derail the thread. This is just one of those topics people are never going to agree on, battle lines are already drawn and people are dug in too deep.
 
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Carr Bombed said:
I don't know where you work at, but I can't conduct political protests at my job.. also when I'm at work I represent my company and if I caused a bunch of negative opinions of my company that effected revenue I most certainly would be fired.

If you want them to do away with the anthem, that's fine..frankly I'm tired of the whole issue. It was just not a well thought out protest strategy/plan..it pissed off so many people that they no longer even talk about what the players were protesting. It was nothing, but decisive, but sadly that seems to be just like everything else in this country today.

Oh well, that's all I'll say about it, because this topic is a slippery slope and I don't want to derail the thread. This is just one of those topics people are never going to agree on, battle lines are already drawn and people are dug in too deep.
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You meant deVisive, didn't you??
 
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