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Replacement GM thread

infantrycak said:
Holy crap, when did you get cuddly?

Fair enough. Too late this time. Future hooker references will be kept to the NSZ.
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I'm never "cuddly" but I still kind of think of the main forum as the place where you try to behave. I'll argue with someone and I'll end up using terms I know will be ******* away but I just think Texans Talk is where it is supposed to be "Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management." should maybe be held to a little bit higher standard than some of the other forums.

We all knew he was talking about a desire to micturate on hookers of the "female" persuasion. Do male prostitutes ever get called "hookers" anyway? All I see in my mind when someone brings up male prostitutes is "Fred Garvin" and that's something I'm afraid I'll take to my grave unfortunately.

I just think we can do better than that. Not much better and maybe not every day but better overall.
 
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Hervoyel said:
I'm never "cuddly" but I still kind of think of the main forum as the place where you try to behave. I'll argue with someone and I'll end up using terms I know will be ******* away but I just think Texans Talk is where it is supposed to be "Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management." should maybe be held to a little bit higher standard than some of the other forums.

We all knew he was talking about a desire to micturate on hookers of the "female" persuasion. Do male prostitutes ever get called "hookers" anyway? All I see in my mind when someone brings up male prostitutes is "Fred Garvin" and that's something I'm afraid I'll take to my grave unfortunately.

I just think we can do better than that. Not much better and maybe not every day but better overall.
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You shouldn’t assume gender when talking about hookers. That’s offensive and could ruin the surprise.
 
Hervoyel said:
I'm never "cuddly" but I still kind of think of the main forum as the place where you try to behave. I'll argue with someone and I'll end up using terms I know will be ******* away but I just think Texans Talk is where it is supposed to be "Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management." should maybe be held to a little bit higher standard than some of the other forums.

We all knew he was talking about a desire to micturate on hookers of the "female" persuasion. Do male prostitutes ever get called "hookers" anyway? All I see in my mind when someone brings up male prostitutes is "Fred Garvin" and that's something I'm afraid I'll take to my grave unfortunately.

I just think we can do better than that. Not much better and maybe not every day but better overall.
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I believe they are referred to as "escorts" or "gigolos".

I'm looking forward to the Brian Gaine meet and greet with the media. I'm boring like that.
 
infantrycak said:
Holy crap, when did you get cuddly?

Fair enough. Too late this time. Future hooker references will be kept to the NSZ.
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Are you sure it wasn’t the peeing part that was offensive?

You should ask.

Because they may be ok with the hooker reference, just not the peeing part.

Well - then you got to ask are they ok with the peeing, referencing a hooker, but just not them together.
 
So for clarity sake, is it ok to reference people peeing on one another if hookers aren't involved?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans' new GM Brian Gaine earns stamp of approval from Bill Parcells
Super Bowl-winning coach was impressed early on with Texans' new general manager
By John McClain, Houston Chronicle

January 15, 2018 Updated: January 15, 2018 9:58pm

When Bill Parcells was the head coach and general manager of the New York Jets in 1999, Dick Haley, his director of player personnel, gave a young scouting assistant his first NFL job.

Nineteen years later, that scouting assistant was hired as the Texans' new general manager.


Brian Gaine, 44, made a positive impression on Parcells. Through the years, Parcells became a mentor and a positive influence on Gaine as he worked his way up in personnel departments with five teams.

Parcells liked what he saw of Gaine and hired him to work in the pro personnel departments with Dallas and Miami. Gaine earned promotions with each organization.

During their six years together, Gaine earned Parcells' respect, trust and endorsement as the Texans' general manager.

"Brian's a smart guy who's paid his dues," Parcells said this week from his home in Florida. "He's got a lot of experience, and I think he'll do real well.

"He's got the background that should allow him to make the kind of decisions that'll need to be made."

After Gaine spent six years with the Jets, Parcells offered him a job with the Cowboys.

"We were looking for a pro (personnel) guy, and Brian became available, so we reached out to him," Parcells said. "I knew he could do the pro end, and that's what we really needed at the time.

"We needed someone to organize the pro department and evaluate players around the league as free agency got more and more important."

Gaine spent three seasons with the Cowboys before Parcells hired him to join the Dolphins. In six years with Miami, Gaine was assistant director of pro personnel, director of player personnel and assistant general manager.

"By the time we got to Miami, you didn't have to tell Brian what to do because he knew what to do and how to do it," Parcells said. "He knew what we wanted and how to go about it. And I knew I could communicate with him."

Parcells won two Super Bowls as a head coach and also served as a general manager and executive vice president of football operations during his distinguished career

Parcells believes that communication, especially between the general manager and head coach, is paramount for any organization that hopes to build a consistent winner.

"Communication (with the head coach) is so important," he said. "You've got to have it."

Coach-GM dynamic key

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Looks like Gaine might be a big player in free agency. The Texans have the cap space to make a splash in FA. Plus, they should be unloading some contracts like Cushing's which will give them even more cap space to play around with.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans' new GM Brian Gaine earns stamp of approval from Bill Parcells
Super Bowl-winning coach was impressed early on with Texans' new general manager
By John McClain, Houston Chronicle

January 15, 2018 Updated: January 15, 2018 9:58pm

When Bill Parcells was the head coach and general manager of the New York Jets in 1999, Dick Haley, his director of player personnel, gave a young scouting assistant his first NFL job.

Nineteen years later, that scouting assistant was hired as the Texans' new general manager.


Brian Gaine, 44, made a positive impression on Parcells. Through the years, Parcells became a mentor and a positive influence on Gaine as he worked his way up in personnel departments with five teams.

Parcells liked what he saw of Gaine and hired him to work in the pro personnel departments with Dallas and Miami. Gaine earned promotions with each organization.

During their six years together, Gaine earned Parcells' respect, trust and endorsement as the Texans' general manager.

"Brian's a smart guy who's paid his dues," Parcells said this week from his home in Florida. "He's got a lot of experience, and I think he'll do real well.

"He's got the background that should allow him to make the kind of decisions that'll need to be made."

After Gaine spent six years with the Jets, Parcells offered him a job with the Cowboys.

"We were looking for a pro (personnel) guy, and Brian became available, so we reached out to him," Parcells said. "I knew he could do the pro end, and that's what we really needed at the time.

"We needed someone to organize the pro department and evaluate players around the league as free agency got more and more important."

Gaine spent three seasons with the Cowboys before Parcells hired him to join the Dolphins. In six years with Miami, Gaine was assistant director of pro personnel, director of player personnel and assistant general manager.

"By the time we got to Miami, you didn't have to tell Brian what to do because he knew what to do and how to do it," Parcells said. "He knew what we wanted and how to go about it. And I knew I could communicate with him."

Parcells won two Super Bowls as a head coach and also served as a general manager and executive vice president of football operations during his distinguished career

Parcells believes that communication, especially between the general manager and head coach, is paramount for any organization that hopes to build a consistent winner.

"Communication (with the head coach) is so important," he said. "You've got to have it."

Coach-GM dynamic key

THE REST OF THE STORY
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This is a good article and I just had to point out an observation at the end of it that Parcells made.


"It's not an easy job picking players," Parcells said. "If you get half of them right, you're doing pretty good."

"Sometimes you know what you want to do, but the opportunity doesn't allow you to do it. The availability of players and what you want to do doesn't exist sometimes. That's the hard part."

Parcells believes Gaine has the experience, work ethic and organizational skills to be successful as a general manager, but he provides some words of caution.

"You never know what's really going to happen with a GM until he's in the decision-making position," he said. "There's a lot of responsibility that goes with that role - when you've got the head that wears the crown."

This observation, from someone who knows and has been through the battles and the wars, always seems lost on those here who have 20/20 hindsight! Let's give Gaine a chance. And, if he stumbles a little from time to time with a bad pick or picks that just don't seem to work out, just remember, "If you get half of them right, you're doing pretty good." JMO.
 
1. Spent 3 years in NFL (1996-98) as a player with Jets, Giants and Chiefs

2. Has 19 years of NFL personnel experience

3. Was a tight end at the University of Maine under head coach Kirk Ferentz

4. Graduated with degree in public administration, and attended Maine from 1991-95

5. Worked under Bill Parcells with the Jets, Cowboys and Dolphins

6. Has helped assemble rosters that have produced 73 Pro Bowl berths an 12 First-Team All-Pro selections

7. Has four older brothers.

8. He and his wife Tricia have a daughter and three sons

9. Part of a state championship football team in 1990 at Don Bosco Prep High School in Ramsey, NJ

10. Been a part of nine NFL playoff teams
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Always liked it better when my NFL talent evaluator has actual NFL experience though I know that doesn't really prove much.
BTW do we have any idea what McNair is paying his new GM or for that matter, what kind of terms did O'Brien get in his new deal ?
 
Axisbuck24 said:
As a female who enjoys the sport of football and enjoys this forum, I feel this comment is Inappropriate and irrelevant to this thread :/


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Didn’t know the term hooker only applied to women. But then again, it seems like the term “immigrant” only applies to Mexicans somehow. (in some people’s warped minds)

With that said, on behalf of all my TexansTalk brothers, I apologize for the misogynistic post. I assure you we all unanimously think women are fantastic. Good day!
 
Insideop said:
This is a good article and I just had to point out an observation at the end of it that Parcells made.


"It's not an easy job picking players," Parcells said. "If you get half of them right, you're doing pretty good."

"Sometimes you know what you want to do, but the opportunity doesn't allow you to do it. The availability of players and what you want to do doesn't exist sometimes. That's the hard part."

Parcells believes Gaine has the experience, work ethic and organizational skills to be successful as a general manager, but he provides some words of caution.

"You never know what's really going to happen with a GM until he's in the decision-making position," he said. "There's a lot of responsibility that goes with that role - when you've got the head that wears the crown."

This observation, from someone who knows and has been through the battles and the wars, always seems lost on those here who have 20/20 hindsight! Let's give Gaine a chance. And, if he stumbles a little from time to time with a bad pick or picks that just don't seem to work out, just remember, "If you get half of them right, you're doing pretty good." JMO.
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Please don't post stuff that talks about the realities of the GM position. I have much more interest in thinking that my mock draft and free agent ideas would happen just like I lined them up and saying the GM sucks when he does not execute the off-season just like I would.

Thanks for your consideration.
 
So we can only count on half our draft picks panning out.

People need to chill on cutting guys, we are not in a position to do so.
 
TheKDog said:
So we can only count on half our draft picks panning out.

People need to chill on cutting guys, we are not in a position to do so.
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At the moment, I'm only reading that some of the folks are only discussing to cut Cushing, Allen or Newton.
 
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ArlingtonTexan said:
Please don't post stuff that talks about the realities of the GM position. I have much more interest in thinking that my mock draft and free agent ideas would happen just like I lined them up and saying the GM sucks when he does not execute the off-season just like I would.

Thanks for your consideration.
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Gaine's gotta doo better in rds 3-4,

Mocks aside.

I just dont want to miss out on another Justin Houston because he smokes pot.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
At the moment, I'm only reading that some of the folks are only discussing not re-signing Cushing, Allen or Newton. The cuts will come naturally in the Pre-Season.
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They are all signed for 2 more years.

I've seen people want to cut them and Lamar Miller lol. And replace them with who? We already need to spend and draft a lot for the OL and secondary.

Not to mention depth is needed. Your bench guys shouldn't all be street free agents, and we have several starters who are.

The guys that need to be cut are the guys who shouldn't even be in the league like Clark and Giacomini.
 
BOB is the defacto GM at this point imho so most of this arguing is a moot point. It is what it is. Taking nothing away from Gaine, but I feel he will be like the waitress that adds the salad dressing and a few croutons. Bill makes the salad.
 
TheKDog said:
They are all signed for 2 more years.

I've seen people want to cut them and Lamar Miller lol. And replace them with who? We already need to spend and draft a lot for the OL and secondary.

Not to mention depth is needed. Your bench guys shouldn't all be street free agents, and we have several starters who are.

The guys that need to be cut are the guys who shouldn't even be in the league like Clark and Giacomini.
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I'm good with keeping Allen or (Not as much) XSF.

Newton will be gone, no way he comes back from that injury.

Cushing's time is up and you can find a guy like Cole late in the draft who will give you as much or more than Cushing gave you last yr.
 
TheKDog said:
They are all signed for 2 more years.

I've seen people want to cut them and Lamar Miller lol. And replace them with who? We already need to spend and draft a lot for the OL and secondary.

Not to mention depth is needed. Your bench guys shouldn't all be street free agents, and we have several starters who are.

The guys that need to be cut are the guys who shouldn't even be in the league like Clark and Giacomini.
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I guess it would depend on who’s available and at what price. Though Allen, Cush and Miller are signed for 2 more years you’d end up positive 10 or so million towards the cap.

Personally I’d offer Cush a pay cut or I’d cut him. Since the OL FA market isn’t great I might consider keeping Allen but moving him to the left side. He looked surprisingly proficient at LT, I’d be hoping for much better play at LG

To cut Miller I’d have to find someone CLEARLY better and when you consider his pass pro, hands, and running ability as a whole that might be tough to do. He does need a strong complimentary back though
 
patrick

✔@PatDStat

Brian Gaine says that him and Bill O’Brien will gather all the draft info from scouts and coaches to build the final picture.

3:17 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL

Brian Gaine on Jadeveon Clowney contract extension in the future: 'Certainly on the horizon' My words: Clowney is due a deal to make him highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL

3:11 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL

Brian Gaine has made it a point several times to discuss the collaborative process he wants to have and expects to have with Bill O'Brien. How they mesh, how they work together is pivotal

3:18 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Deepi Sidhu

✔@DeepSlant

Gaine says the offensive line is "certainly an area we will evaluate heavily," especially with a talent like Deshaun Watson. #Texans

3:09 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Drew Dougherty

✔@DoughertyDrew

Gaine: we'll pursue every avenue to improve this roster. Can build roster from back end forward thru FA/draft/waiver wire claims/practice squad upgrades, etc.

3:08 PM - Jan 17, 2018
 
Dale Robertson@sportywineguy

Gaine says #Texans will be looking for "explosive athletes and pressure players," meaning those that want to crush opposing QBs.

3:24 PM - Jan 17, 2018

patrick

✔@PatDStat

“It is clear we have to put some players around him in order for him to succeed.” Brian Gaine on Deshaun Watson. #Texans

3:23 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL

Brian Gaine acknowledges a lot of decisions to be made in secondary, including with free agents

3:26 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Brian T. Smith

✔@ChronBrianSmith

Gaine said #Texans intend to become a first-class organization. If organization asks it of coaches and players, front office must be the same.

3:16 PM - Jan 17, 2018

Greg Bailey

✔@GregBailey13

#Texans Brian Gaine: we will pursue every avenue to find players. Draft, free agency, any way we can.

3:08 PM - Jan 17, 2018
 
Drew Dougherty @DoughertyDrew
Getting better on special teams is going to be a point of emphasis. Scouting process obviously very important there.

My job is to be final filter and consensus builder as a GM. Need good communication w/scouting dept.

Spent good chunk of time this autumn w/Bills doing pre-draft evaluation of college players.

Said main thing he's done since getting the job has been player evaluation of #Texans roster.

Dale Robertson @sportywineguy
Texans will be looking for "explosive athletes and pressure players," meaning those that want to crush opposing QBs.

Also saying nice things about Chris Olsen, #Texans football veep and salary cap expert. Huge part of the team.

Stressing decisions going forward will be "Texans' decisions, not Brian Gaine's decisions." Says he'll be a consensus builder. #Texans

Calls scouting a collaborative process. Synergy he'll have with coaches and personnel dept. will be key. Said it must be a collaborative effort. #Texans

Stresses building the roster "from the back end forward" as a season progresses. #Texans
 
zshawn10 said:
Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL

Brian Gaine on Jadeveon Clowney contract extension in the future: 'Certainly on the horizon' My words: Clowney is due a deal to make him highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL

3:11 PM - Jan 17, 2018
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This worries me. The Texans will probably feel obligated to give Clowney this type of deal. If they are not careful, it could easily end up like a Watt and Cushing situation.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This worries me. The Texans will probably feel obligated to give Clowney this type of deal. If they are not careful, it could easily end up like a Watt and Cushing situation.
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The second part of that tweet is just aaron's opinion; doesn't necessarily has to happen
 
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Clowney shouldn't get the most money for a non-QB unless he is in the conversation as the best non QB in the NFL. Does anyone here think that he's at least in the conversation? He's made himself into a pro-bowler and possibly borderline All-pro. Kudos to him. He's one of the best against the run and he is a good (but not great) pass rusher. If he wants to be paid at an truly elite level, he needs to be consistently in double digit sack numbers. Sorry charlie - he isn't worth all that. You also have to consider his injury history. He's had one healthy year - one! I'd Mario Williams him if he ask to be compensated like a true elite pass rusher.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This worries me. The Texans will probably feel obligated to give Clowney this type of deal. If they are not careful, it could easily end up like a Watt and Cushing situation.
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Oddly but Gaines comment about how JD should be the highest paid non-QB in the league sounds much more like how JDs agent and not the Texans should open up the bidding on his new contract ?
 
If the Texans give Clowney a deal like that, they're crazy so I expect them to do it with that being said.

He's a good player, but he isn't anywhere close to be being the top guy in the league at all positions or even his own. He has a bad injury history as well, and after him missing two straight seasons without coming close to 20 sacks even once, what the hell are we even talking about?

I'm used to watching the Texans stub their toe though, so no skin off my nose.
 
Gaine had to introduce himself. O'Brien, of course, was not in town to do so. I would have thought that a little bit of class could have been shown by one of the McNairs being present at the news conference to make the introduction.



 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Gaine had to introduce himself. O'Brien, of course, was not in town to do so. I would have thought that a little bit of class could have been shown by one of the McNairs being present at the news conference to make the introduction.
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Makes you wonder.

Remember Ricky will be back next yr.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Understood...........just still worried about this scenario..........hopefully less likely with Gaine...........unless outside pressure from McNair.
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we've seen both sides of that coin... McNair already said re-signing JD is a priority, but he said that with Mario also. I think he'll go with what is presented to for keeping a player or not, if he exerts pressure it will be to add a player/coach or not. History will tell you the future if you listen
 
steelbtexan said:
Gaine's gotta doo better in rds 3-4,

Mocks aside.

I just dont want to miss out on another Justin Houston because he smokes pot.
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We could have had Watt and Houston... thanks RS, Wade and the Texans scouting staff

Oh wait, we would have missed ouit on mid to late round prospect Brooks Reed
 
JB said:
We could have had Watt and Houston... thanks RS, Wade and the Texans scouting staff

Oh wait, we would have missed ouit on mid to late round prospect Brooks Reed
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Missing out on an avg player like Reed instead of a great player like Houston?

Sign me up for the Houston camp. Plus think of the Marketing angles # Houston strong.

I was using that as an example of how the acquiring talent needs to change.
 
steelbtexan said:
Missing out on an avg player like Reed instead of a great player like Houston?

Sign me up for the Houston camp. Plus think of the Marketing angles # Houston strong.

I was using that as an example of how the acquiring talent needs to change.
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I know you were. It was a complete shocker I think that they took Reed much higher than he was projected to go
 
TejasTom said:
I would like to see the acceptable character flaw slide from quit choir to something short of Aaron Hernandez.
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We've had players with positive pot tests, rampant steroid rumors and arrests for fighting. The Texans do not insist on squeaky clean as much as some make out. We've also retained players after DUIs.
 
infantrycak said:
We've had players with positive pot tests, rampant steroid rumors and arrests for fighting. The Texans do not insist on squeaky clean as much as some make out. We've also retained players after DUIs.
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You need to look at the list of cleanest teams in the NFL.

#1 Houston Texans

I cant find the link and even if I could I wouldn't how to post it. But the info is out there.
 
Is anyone going to ask John McClain about Gaine being fired?

Why did you leave the Texans for the Bills last year and did you want to leave?
“It’s rare when you have the chance to combine personal and professional. I had an opportunity to do that last year when I went to Buffalo for a bigger title and a larger level of responsibility. Equally, it was a chance for me to get back closer to home and be closer to family as it related to that. Obviously, when this opportunity came up, it was a tremendous one. But the opportunity to go back east and get closer to my folks and my family and my brothers, and combining that with the professional responsibility, was a hard decision but ultimately one that I felt was best for me and my family.”
 
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