Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

How about Tony Romo in Houston

Detroit's OL isn't much different from ours. Still, he throws for 4000 yards a year, 20 some touchdowns, 30 isn't out of the realm of possibility. He'll start day one, week 2, week 3, etc...

If you could trade a two 1sts & a 2nd for the best QB in this year's draft, or next years, would you? Stafford is better than both of them.
I think my views on trading away draft picks for rookie QB's has been pretty well documented. :D I'm against it. I'm not a huge fan of this years QB crop, but I wouldn't be against one being taken at 1.25 (as long as it isn't Kizer. He wilts under pressure) and go with who is currently on the roster.
 
Stafford has gotten better the last few years and would be the best QB the Texans have ever had. I don't think 2 1's and a 2 are enough to land him, Detroit would want more I'm sure.
I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just very stubborn about giving away high draft picks.
 
Detroit's OL isn't much different from ours. Still, he throws for 4000 yards a year, 20 some touchdowns, 30 isn't out of the realm of possibility. He'll start day one, week 2, week 3, etc...

If you could trade a two 1sts & a 2nd for the best QB in this year's draft, or next years, would you? Stafford is better than both of them. in 2017 he'll be better than Mariotta, Winston, Goff, & Wentz.

If this is true, why would Detroit trade him?
 
If this is true, why would Detroit trade him?

I think it's time for them to move on. Time for Cincy to move on. Time for Miami to move on.

If those guys can't help them get to the playoffs (in Cincy's case, the divisional round) then it's just not meant to be. Time to do something different. It's not like they have Elway & keep getting bounced out of the AFC Championship game.

Like jradMIT said, I really don't think it's enough to get them to trade him away, but if they did, they can take those extra picks & move much higher than we could to get the QB they want.
 
I think it's time for them to move on. Time for Cincy to move on. Time for Miami to move on.

If those guys can't help them get to the playoffs (in Cincy's case, the divisional round) then it's just not meant to be. Time to do something different. It's not like they have Elway & keep getting bounced out of the AFC Championship game.

Like jradMIT said, I really don't think it's enough to get them to trade him away, but if they did, they can take that those extra picks & move much higher than we could to get the QB they want.

Do you think they see someone to move on too? If so, why don't we move to get that guy?
 
Do you think they see someone to move on too? If so, why don't we move to get that guy?

I'm already stretching my limits to give up the two firsts & a second. If I thought that could get me the QB I wanted... I'd do it.

Then again, some guys have Deshaun(sp) Watson as the #1 QB in this class, some has Trubisky(sp)... some have Peterman. & it might not be a QB they'd like to go get. Maybe it's Fournette, maybe it's the best CB... Maybe they'd be thrilled to land Romo or Alex Smith.

Look, I'm a checkers guy. I can only think so many moves ahead.
 
I'm already stretching my limits to give up the two firsts & a second. If I thought that could get me the QB I wanted... I'd do it.

Then again, some guys have Deshaun(sp) Watson as the #1 QB in this class, some has Trubisky(sp)... some have Peterman. & it might not be a QB they'd like to go get. Maybe it's Fournette, maybe it's the best CB... Maybe they'd be thrilled to land Romo or Alex Smith.

Look, I'm a checkers guy. I can only think so many moves ahead.

Then you qualify for the Texans GM position.
 
We are losing a lot of depth this year and have serious offensive line issues as well.

That #1 defense in the league thing is incredibly misleading, but even if true we just lost the best cornerback on the team from last year and a key LB in Simon.
Simon was a hard-working player but talent wise it's nothing we can't replace in the draft. And I view it like this: We lost Simon and Bouye but gain J.J. Watt and Kevin Johnson. We're going to be even better. I think the 2017 Texans defense has a chance to be special if they stay healthy.

And honestly, Bouye was the 3rd best CB on our team.
The problem was our top two guys dealt with injuries.

Just give me a good quarterback and I'll show you a Super Bowl ring or two here in Houston over the next few years. We would already have a ring or two had we signed Peyton Manning several off-seasons ago like I wanted to. When he had interest in signing with the Texans just like Tony Romo does now. We just need him to be released or give into the Cowboys demands and pony up a day two pick.
 
Simon was a hard-working player but talent wise it's nothing we can't replace in the draft. And I view it like this: We lost Simon and Bouye but gain J.J. Watt and Kevin Johnson. We're going to be even better. I think the 2017 Texans defense has a chance to be special if they stay healthy.

And honestly, Bouye was the 3rd best CB on our team.
The problem was our top two guys dealt with injuries.
.

The problem with your equation is the built-in assumption that next year's team will avoid key injuries and the lost depth won't be needed... Personally, I agree with you that the impact of what we have lost so far may not be bad. However, the organization has a lot of work to do to adequately replace those parts as well as finding a starting RT, and replacing the depth throughout the defense.
 
The problem with your equation is the built-in assumption that next year's team will avoid key injuries and the lost depth won't be needed... Personally, I agree with you that the impact of what we have lost so far may not be bad. However, the organization has a lot of work to do to adequately replace those parts as well as finding a starting RT, and replacing the depth throughout the defense.
Depth is a perennial issue with the Texans. A product of trying to be a legitimate contender and a relatively young organization.
 
Depth is a perennial issue with the Texans. A product of trying to be a legitimate contender and a relatively young organization.
If every year, you (the team....not you personally) are so short sighted and going for the fences, you are unlikely to ever "build" a team that will get to the top............, and, if you try to do this by giving up the farm every year, then if you are lucky enough to ever reach the top, in the end you will likely not have put together anything lasting that will allow you stay there long enough to enjoy it.
 
If every year, you (the team....not you personally) are so short sighted and going for the fences, you are unlikely to ever "build" a team that will get to the top............, and, if you try to do this by giving up the farm every year, then if you are lucky enough to ever reach the top, in the end you will likely not have put together anything lasting that will allow you stay there long enough to enjoy it.
Which is why I'm happy about this year's FA period. The Texans have been restrained.
 
Which is why I'm happy about this year's FA period. The Texans have been restrained.

Of course, we are about $75 million under the 2018 cap right now, with the ability to dump contracts like Jeff Allen, Cushing, and others for more cap relief. Once they cleared Osweiler's contract, it's hard to understand how a couple aggressive moves would place them in a difficult cap situation moving forward.
 
The Broncos lost a lot of depth and talent, on both sides of the ball, after they won the Super Bowl a couple years ago. They finished in third place in the tough AFC West last year behind a young and talented Chiefs and Raiders team. They also have a young and unproven head coach in Vance Joseph. It's no longer Gary Kubiak running the show there. And oh yeah, the Broncos also lost one of the best defensive coordinators in the game in Wade Phillips. He went to the L.A. Rams to coach their defense.

The Broncos have been in desperate mode so far this off-season, trying to improve their atrocious offensive line issues. They are not a team built to win now. They're a non-playoff team that is likely a third place team for a second year in a row. Brutal schedule to boot.

The Houston Texans are built to win now. All we need is a good quarterback. We already have the #1 defense in the league, with the most dominating defensive player of our generation returning to form the best trio of pass rushers in the league - Watt, Clowney and Mercilus is going to be special. Along with a stud wide receiver and a highly productive running back. Our O-Line isn't great but it's middle of the pack (good enough). Better than the Broncos O-Line that's for sure.

If Tony Romo came to the Texans and we had some luck staying healthy, not just Romo but Watt and Clowney obviously, I could see the Houston Texans winning the Super Bowl next year. At the very least reaching the AFC Championship Game.

It's a lot of "ifs" when it comes to health but damn I'll take. Wouldn't you? What are the alternatives? Keep being a divisional round loser at best? Is that going to be what our franchise is all about?

I agree with your argument but I believe the Texans wouldn't win the Super Bowl this upcoming season but, they would win one within 2-3 years in this period if they get Romo
 
Last edited:
Depth is a perennial issue with the Texans. A product of trying to be a legitimate contender and a relatively young organization.

The rest of the NFL plucking away dudes (none high draft picks) does not support that the Texans had depth issues (at least on defense).
 
I have come a conclusion on Romo's release being delayed.

Romo wants to be in Houston. Houston wants Romo here and Jerry doesnt like this idea AT ALL.

If Dak goes out next year and hits a sophomore slump and Romo has even the slightest of success in Houston, Cowboy fans will be screaming like the bitches they are. If by some miracle Romo leads the Texans to their first Super Bowl Jerry wouldnt be able to eat or sleep. He controls NFL fandom in this state and doesnt like the idea of anyone moving in on his turf. He is playing a game hoping Denver will bite as Romo is probably "ok" with going there but they are ultimately his 2nd choice. He cant trade him anywhere else because Tony will just say "no. I wont play there" and negate the trade. If he has success in Denver Jerry would see it as not that big of a deal because he is far away in Colorado. For those who dont know "football culture" in Texas its basically bigger than God and the Switch

Jerry wants his cake and to eat it too but he is in a losing situation here. I firmly believe the Texans know he wants to come here and Jerry is scrambling at the last minute to avoid that situation. Rick and BOB are just waiting it out.
 
According to this thread the GM sucks because he *cant* draft and sucks because he can't retain talent. Some of you guys act like hitting on every pick is common place; no one does. You guys complain about salary cap space; yet we're not paying guys. But at the end of the day Rick Smith continually is rated above average by his peers and we've won the majority of our games since he's been GM. But he sucks and you're a better GM. Ok.
 
Last edited:
It’s unclear why Jones changed his mind about releasing Romo, but there’s a good chance that the decision by the Texans to unload Brock Osweiler had something to do with it. Instantly, the Texans created a need for themselves at quarterback. If they’re willing to cough up a second-round pick to get a quarterback they don’t want, surely they’ll do something to get the quarterback they do want. If they actually do want Romo.
link
 
I have come a conclusion on Romo's release being delayed.

Romo wants to be in Houston. Houston wants Romo here and Jerry doesnt like this idea AT ALL.

If Dak goes out next year and hits a sophomore slump and Romo has even the slightest of success in Houston, Cowboy fans will be screaming like the bitches they are. If by some miracle Romo leads the Texans to their first Super Bowl Jerry wouldnt be able to eat or sleep. He controls NFL fandom in this state and doesnt like the idea of anyone moving in on his turf. He is playing a game hoping Denver will bite as Romo is probably "ok" with going there but they are ultimately his 2nd choice. He cant trade him anywhere else because Tony will just say "no. I wont play there" and negate the trade. If he has success in Denver Jerry would see it as not that big of a deal because he is far away in Colorado. For those who dont know "football culture" in Texas its basically bigger than God and the Switch

Jerry wants his cake and to eat it too but he is in a losing situation here. I firmly believe the Texans know he wants to come here and Jerry is scrambling at the last minute to avoid that situation. Rick and BOB are just waiting it out.
That could be a fan's point of view, but I seriously doubt Jerry is making a decision based on anything above a sound business decision to get the best bang out of the release/trade. The Dallas fan base seems to be misunderstood and limited to non Texans fans in Texas. Fans from the many states to make up the fan base aren't thinking about Romo leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Being a Texan myself, I'm not thinking about if Tony wins a Super Bowl as a Houston resident, rather if he doesn't how poorly he would be treated in Houston. If he gets a ring as a Texan, same congratulations that was extended to Demarcus Ware. It's all business, but do hope both will return and retire as a Cowboy because sometimes family must leave home for a while.
 
Last edited:
That could be a fan's point of view, but I seriously doubt Jerry is making a decision based on anything above a sound business decision to get the best bang out of the release/trade. The Dallas fan base seems to be misunderstood and limited to non Texans fans in Texas. Fans from the many states to make up the fan base aren't thinking about Romo leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Being a Texan myself, I'm not thinking about if Tony wins a Super Bowl as a Houston resident, rather if he doesn't how poorly he would be treated in Houston. If he gets a ring as a Texan, same congratulations that was extended to Demarcus Ware. It's all business, but do hope both will return and retire as a Cowboy because sometimes family must leave home for a while.

You, as a Cowboys fan, may feel that way about Romo, but I have no doubt, Jerry has no interest in losing any part of the overwhelming fan support the Cowboys have in TX. I'm not sure how he feels about all 16 Texans games being televised in the Metroplex next season (barring any direct conflict with the Cowboys) with Romo as the starter. I remember how the Cowboys tried to move on the Houston market when the Oilers left.
 
You, as a Cowboys fan, may feel that way about Romo, but I have no doubt, Jerry has no interest in losing any part of the overwhelming fan support the Cowboys have in TX. I'm not sure how he feels about all 16 Texans games being televised in the Metroplex next season (barring any direct conflict with the Cowboys) with Romo as the starter. I remember how the Cowboys tried to move on the Houston market when the Oilers left.
The more the better, but as much as most of us admire and respect Romo, I don't see (of course I could be wrong) any significant change in the fan base. I recall being disappointed when TO was cut, and a fellow fan reminded me that as much as some of us liked TO, we were first and foremost Cowboys fans, and players come and go. It isn't meant to sound cold, but the business of it all, we can't get too wrapped up in individual players. Heck we liked Murray, and see how the business aspect overruled all fan support.

I think initially, Jerry tried to move on the Houston market because the Cowboys was the only team in Texas, and until things began to go favorable in McNair's negotiations, Houston was a long shot at getting another franchise. Thanks to both Jerry and Bud Adams, that when that possibility arose, neither tried to block it.
 
Sounds like the situation may have gotten untenable behind the scenes.
Untenable enough to toss away a 2nd round pick? I don't really buy that. Even if the goal at QB next year is a rookie, you pay Os another year even if it's as a 3rd stringer. You might have to deal with Osweiler's attitude but you wouldn't hurt your future keeping Os. Trading a 2nd hurts the future of this team, which makes me believe the Texans needed the cash to go after a free agent QB they covet (Romo or Cousins). I think Cousins is staying in Washington another year which only leaves Romo.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Max
That could be a fan's point of view, but I seriously doubt Jerry is making a decision based on anything above a sound business decision to get the best bang out of the release/trade. The Dallas fan base seems to be misunderstood and limited to non Texans fans in Texas. Fans from the many states to make up the fan base aren't thinking about Romo leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Being a Texan myself, I'm not thinking about if Tony wins a Super Bowl as a Houston resident, rather if he doesn't how poorly he would be treated in Houston. If he gets a ring as a Texan, same congratulations that was extended to Demarcus Ware. It's all business, but do hope both will return and retire as a Cowboy because sometimes family must leave home for a while.
Jerry is king ego-maniac in a club of 32 ego maniacs. This is about business.

Jerruh doesnt want to weaken his stranglehold on this state or look stupid. Deny it all you will but if Dak has the usual sophomore slump and Romo comes here and succeeds his fans would turn on him and everyone would be chuckling. He wants to be the king at all costs.

Personally I think he is a hypocritical twat. But thats just my opinion.
 
Untenable enough to toss away a 2nd round pick? I don't really buy that. Even if the goal at QB next year is a rookie, you pay Os another year even if it's as a 3rd stringer. You might have to deal with Osweiler's attitude but you wouldn't hurt your future keeping Os. Trading a 2nd hurts the future of this team, which makes me believe the Texans needed the cash to go after a free agent QB they covet (Romo or Cousins). I think Cousins is staying in Washington another year which only leaves Romo.
Why would you keep Os, even if he's a third stringer? I'm a believer in moving on from your mistakes as quickly as possible.
 
The entire forum trusts CND and through experience has learned that his diagnosis and fervent predictions should be heeded. Unless Romo?
I'm not a fan of bringing Romo to Houston, but if it happens, I'll be pulling for him to succeed. I try to be positive about things until I'm given explicit reason to be negative.
 
I'm not a fan of bringing Romo to Houston, but if it happens, I'll be pulling for him to succeed. I try to be positive about things until I'm given explicit reason to be negative.

Obviously, as are we all. To ignore not only common sense and accumulative history, but to openly defy Doc Jean's very adamant and (not negative concerns, but definitive prediction) proclamations regarding Romo ... well I frankly don't have words for it.
 
I have come a conclusion on Romo's release being delayed.

Romo wants to be in Houston. Houston wants Romo here and Jerry doesnt like this idea AT ALL.

Or... he was changed his mind after losing Ron Leary & Doug Free (may have surprised the crap out of him) & knowing Dak may not have the luxury of excellent protection if La'el Collins has issues with his big toe.

He may have changed his mind about having a "quality" back up ready to go.
 
10 years ago we laughed at the Cowboys and Romo's failed snap. And for 10 years we have enjoyed the failure that is the Cowboys inability to reach the playoffs, and get one-done when they did get into the playoffs (twice). We have spent that decade laughing at the guy who seems to disappear in crunch time. We have teased our friends up I-45 because their quarterback was too broken to play, and over the past 2 years seemed quite obvious he may never play again. All of a sudden that gets wiped out because O'Brien has given us 4 years of quarterbacks and scheme so bad that the player we've most ridiculed, playing with a collarbone and vertebrae held together with duct tape, is our best chance at success. We have to sacrifice a 2nd round pick just to free up cap room for this player, who has no experience with our team or system.

Someone please quote Ron Simmons for me.
 
10 years ago we laughed at the Cowboys and Romo's failed snap. And for 10 years we have enjoyed the failure that is the Cowboys inability to reach the playoffs, and get one-done when they did get into the playoffs (twice). We have spent that decade laughing at the guy who seems to disappear in crunch time. We have teased our friends up I-45 because their quarterback was too broken to play, and over the past 2 years seemed quite obvious he may never play again. All of a sudden that gets wiped out because O'Brien has given us 4 years of quarterbacks and scheme so bad that the player we've most ridiculed, playing with a collarbone and vertebrae held together with duct tape, is our best chance at success. We have to sacrifice a 2nd round pick just to free up cap room for this player, who has no experience with our team or system.

Someone please quote Ron Simmons for me.

we also have spent the same decade talking crap about whoever was the Texans' QB, so it seems like with Romo the tradition will continue :D
 
Just give me a good quarterback and I'll show you a Super Bowl ring or two here in Houston over the next few years. We would already have a ring or two had we signed Peyton Manning several off-seasons ago like I wanted to. When he had interest in signing with the Texans just like Tony Romo does now. We just need him to be released or give into the Cowboys demands and pony up a day two pick.
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
I have come a conclusion on Romo's release being delayed.

Romo wants to be in Houston. Houston wants Romo here and Jerry doesnt like this idea AT ALL.

If Dak goes out next year and hits a sophomore slump and Romo has even the slightest of success in Houston, Cowboy fans will be screaming like the bitches they are. If by some miracle Romo leads the Texans to their first Super Bowl Jerry wouldnt be able to eat or sleep. He controls NFL fandom in this state and doesnt like the idea of anyone moving in on his turf. He is playing a game hoping Denver will bite as Romo is probably "ok" with going there but they are ultimately his 2nd choice. He cant trade him anywhere else because Tony will just say "no. I wont play there" and negate the trade. If he has success in Denver Jerry would see it as not that big of a deal because he is far away in Colorado. For those who dont know "football culture" in Texas its basically bigger than God and the Switch

Jerry wants his cake and to eat it too but he is in a losing situation here. I firmly believe the Texans know he wants to come here and Jerry is scrambling at the last minute to avoid that situation. Rick and BOB are just waiting it out.

This is Jerry's worst nightmare He lets Tony Romo go, Then Romo signs with the Texans and helps them win the Super Bowl making the Texans revelant not only nationally but in the whole state of Texas.
 
Jerry is king ego-maniac in a club of 32 ego maniacs. This is about business.

Jerruh doesnt want to weaken his stranglehold on this state or look stupid. Deny it all you will but if Dak has the usual sophomore slump and Romo comes here and succeeds his fans would turn on him and everyone would be chuckling. He wants to be the king at all costs.

Personally I think he is a hypocritical twat. But thats just my opinion.

What 'usual sophomore slump?' Most QBs make large jumps in performance from rookie to 2nd season.

Your Cowboys dislike (accompanied by several others) renders you almost irrational on any discussion related to them.
 
This narrative keeps annoying me, and I hear it everywhere. But I clearly remember hearing the news that the Cowboys changed their mind about releasing Romo at least a few hours before the Texans and Browns struck their deal (maybe a day).
It may be irritating, but fans may be in the dark about some NFL transactions until they actually happen, while teams commonly have NFL insider information about the goings on around the League behind the scenes as they are developing.
 
Jerry Jones' s change of heart (actually probably Stephen's) is about getting an asset for something he was going to do anyway. The Texans look desperate and the Broncos are trying to put on a poker face. why not wait out for one of them to blink or at least make another move?
 
...I'm not necessarily a Romo fan but if we are to make any kind of run this year he is still the QB available who probably does give us about the best chance we could have at the POs this year and maybe also in 2018...
Not being a Cowboy's fan, I haven't followed Romo's career. I am aware that for years he has been considered as one of the better QB talents but also aware of the fact that he has failed to lead the 'Boys to the SB. But I also do agree that if he were able to stay healthy he would likely be the best transition QB we could get and may be able to give us a really good shot in the playoffs. Besides his health, the other question I might have is whether his long experience would translate into adapting to QB's offense and effectively executing it. I would not be down on Romo if we were to aquire him under a cap friendly contract, but I would be concerned about his health and best way to insure the team's success were he to go down.
 
10 years ago we laughed at the Cowboys and Romo's failed snap. And for 10 years we have enjoyed the failure that is the Cowboys inability to reach the playoffs, and get one-done when they did get into the playoffs (twice). We have spent that decade laughing at the guy who ...

Not all of 'we' did those things though. Some of us thought the large majority of that time that Romo was a damn good QB who often times seemed scapegoated unnecessarily for a team that was full of holes that contributed to their failures and wouldn't even be in the spots they were in were it not for his play.

I remember thinking in fact just how obnoxious Cowboys fans sounded thinking they had it so bad with Romo.

Just a different side of 'we' I guess.
 
Back
Top