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How about Tony Romo in Houston

Bulls on Parade said:
The Broncos lost a lot of depth and talent, on both sides of the ball, after they won the Super Bowl a couple years ago. They finished in third place in the tough AFC West last year behind a young and talented Chiefs and Raiders team. They also have a young and unproven head coach in Vance Joseph. It's no longer Gary Kubiak running the show there. And oh yeah, the Broncos also lost one of the best defensive coordinators in the game in Wade Phillips. He went to the L.A. Rams to coach their defense.

The Broncos have been in desperate mode so far this off-season, trying to improve their atrocious offensive line issues. They are not a team built to win now. They're a non-playoff team that is likely a third place team for a second year in a row. Brutal schedule to boot.

The Houston Texans are built to win now. All we need is a good quarterback. We already have the #1 defense in the league, with the most dominating defensive player of our generation returning to form the best trio of pass rushers in the league - Watt, Clowney and Mercilus is going to be special. Along with a stud wide receiver and a highly productive running back. Our O-Line isn't great but it's middle of the pack (good enough). Better than the Broncos O-Line that's for sure.

If Tony Romo came to the Texans and we had some luck staying healthy, not just Romo but Watt and Clowney obviously, I could see the Houston Texans winning the Super Bowl next year. At the very least reaching the AFC Championship Game.

It's a lot of "ifs" when it comes to health but damn I'll take. Wouldn't you? What are the alternatives? Keep being a divisional round loser at best? Is that going to be what our franchise is all about?
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We are losing a lot of depth this year and have serious offensive line issues as well.

That #1 defense in the league thing is incredibly misleading, but even if true we just lost the best cornerback on the team from last year and a key LB in Simon.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I'm On the Romo bandwagon and draft Mahomes.

If Romo gets hurt then it's not like there were a bunch of viable options out there anyways. Savage or Weeden or Rookie gets a chance as well in that scenario. Even if they fail miserably the Texans might finally be in position to draft a top tier qb since the next draft class is supposed to have "better qbs"....

If he doesn't get hurt then hey....might get some of the best qb play the Texans have ever had and a legit shot at a Super Bowl.
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Do you really think Billy would draft Mahomes ? I just don't see our HC looking at Mahomes as his kind of QB.
 
IDEXAN said:
Do you really think Billy would draft Mahomes ? I just don't see our HC looking at Mahomes as his kind of QB.
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I heard an analysis on the radio yesterday that Watson and Mahomes were the two best fits for OB's offense. The comment was also thrown out that Mahomes would likely not be available at 25.
 
justtxyank said:
We are losing a lot of depth this year and have serious offensive line issues as well.

That #1 defense in the league thing is incredibly misleading, but even if true we just lost the best cornerback on the team from last year and a key LB in Simon.
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infantrycak said:
Why?

IF the Texans get Romo they sound like they'd pair perfectly.
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Don't get me wrong. I like him because he's talented, terrific arm, and entertaining to watch but he's also undisciplined, takes chances and that's not O'Briens kind of signal caller. The kid really is somewhat of a young Bret Farve.
 
IDEXAN said:
Don't get me wrong. I like him because he's talented, terrific arm, and entertaining to watch but he's also undisciplined, takes chances and that's not O'Briens kind of signal caller. The kid really is somewhat of a young Bret Farve.
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Or a young Tony Romo. Tony is a hard worker and disciplined right up until he goes off book trying to extend and make plays. They also happen to have similar builds and skill sets. If you can believe Romo, Mahomes seems like a perfect protégé.

Frankly Romo doesn't naturally pop to mind as an OB guy. But that's my point, maybe we misread OB if he really does love Romo. In which case Mahomes makes sense.
 
Number19 said:
I heard an analysis on the radio yesterday that Watson and Mahomes were the two best fits for OB's offense. The comment was also thrown out that Mahomes would likely not be available at 25.
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On 610 or 790 ?
I spend a little time on one of the Chiefs boards and lots of those guys really like Mahomes, they think he's coach Reid's kinda QB, and they don't like Alec Smith anyway. They are picking a few spots behind us and they fear the Texans will take Mahomes right ahead of the Chiefs.
He's gonna draw a lot of interest and he could very well be overdrafted by somebody, hell he might be taken in the top 10. QBs just get more valuable every year for obvious reason.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't think the Broncos are interested. They have their bridge QB & their future QB.

I'm not saying the Jags are even interested. I was just asking what would y'all think if the Jags landed Romo. Would they still be considered the door mat of the AFCSouth?

I think they'll be the favorites to win the division & most likely live up to it this time.
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Titans seem to have more puzzle pieces in place.
 
infantrycak said:
Or a young Tony Romo. Tony is a hard worker and disciplined right up until he goes off book trying to extend and make plays. They also happen to have similar builds and skill sets. If you can believe Romo, Mahomes seems like a perfect protégé.

Frankly Romo doesn't naturally pop to mind as an OB guy. But that's my point, maybe we misread OB if he really does love Romo. In which case Mahomes makes sense.
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Was told during the combine that #Texans coach Bill O'Brien "loves" QB Tony Romo. Wants him badly.

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IDEXAN said:
On 610 or 790 ?
I spend a little time on one of the Chiefs boards and lots of those guys really like Mahomes, they think he's coach Reid's kinda QB, and they don't like Alec Smith anyway. They are picking a few spots behind us and they fear the Texans will take Mahomes right ahead of the Chiefs.
He's gonna draw a lot of interest and he could very well be overdrafted by somebody, hell he might be taken in the top 10. QBs just get more valuable every year for obvious reason.
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It was 610.
 
infantrycak said:
Or a young Tony Romo. Tony is a hard worker and disciplined right up until he goes off book trying to extend and make plays. They also happen to have similar builds and skill sets. If you can believe Romo, Mahomes seems like a perfect protégé.

Frankly Romo doesn't naturally pop to mind as an OB guy. But that's my point, maybe we misread OB if he really does love Romo. In which case Mahomes makes sense.
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I would love to see a Texans' depth chart that includes Romo & Mahomes @ QB. I think the city would go nutz over that combo.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if all the Romo/Texans talk is just the Texans trying to drive up the price of Romo for the Broncos? They are a conference rival, and could be a playoff opponent for us, so making them pay more for Romo helps us in the long run.
 
JCTexan said:
Romo is the only thing that makes the Osweiler trade make sense. Otherwise why not pay Os for another year and keep the 2nd rounder?
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There is an addition by subtraction argument floating around as well.


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IDEXAN said:
I would love to see a Texans' depth chart that includes Romo & Mahomes @ QB. I think the city would go nutz over that combo.
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I dont like the oz trade as a singular move and im apparently in the minority for it.

Im not Romo's biggest fan and have routinely given the boy's fans i know **** for it. Mostly, they concede because he's always been a legit qb in the regular season and barney fife in the post season. He's a guy who can follow a hall of fame play with a bone headed junior varsity play.

If you think we have a small window for a sb run and he's the best "instant qb" option i think that's reasonable. Naturally, i'd only want an incentive laden contract. Naturally, i have concerns about his health.

But...

Following the oz trade WITH romo WITH watson, biscuit, or mahomes would be fantastic. I would be behind that. I'd respect the big picture approach and finally investing resources into fixing our qb issue on multiple fronts.

We'll see if that happens. I have my doubts.
 
IDEXAN said:
I would love to see a Texans' depth chart that includes Romo & Mahomes @ QB. I think the city would go nutz over that combo.
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How would you plan forward with this scenario? Would you plan for Romo staying mostly healthy? Are we in a win now situation and if so, and if you plan on Romo missing significant playing time, are you comfortable with Mahomes as QB2 when Romo goes down? Or do you now do what you normally would not, and that is, carry three veterans in addition to the rookie Mahomes?

If we sign Romo, and I do expect us to make a play for him, and based on CloakNNNdagger's assessment, I would want to keep the two veterans we currently have under contract with experience in OB's offense. Teams normally do not carry four QB's, but I think we should if we do indeed sign Romo.
 
infantrycak said:
If a 4th QB becomes necessary you can find one on a couch. Keenum, Yates, etc. OB has decent success doing it. Hardly affects our game plan.
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One of the benefits of having so many qbs over the last few years. It's like our own private practice squad of qbs.

They're not good enough to start for anyone (mostly) but good enough to call on should injuries strike.
 
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xtruroyaltyx said:
Sounds like the situation may have gotten untenable behind the scenes.
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Yea word is that Billy and Ozzy were not compatible at the personal level and consequently there were some friction there though I doubt that the volatile O'brien is very easy for anybody to work for. Plus the locker room was solidly behind Savage but not so much with Osweiler.
 
Number19 said:
How would you plan forward with this scenario? Would you plan for Romo staying mostly healthy? Are we in a win now situation and if so, and if you plan on Romo missing significant playing time, are you comfortable with Mahomes as QB2 when Romo goes down? Or do you now do what you normally would not, and that is, carry three veterans in addition to the rookie Mahomes?

If we sign Romo, and I do expect us to make a play for him, and based on CloakNNNdagger's assessment, I would want to keep the two veterans we currently have under contract with experience in OB's offense. Teams normally do not carry four QB's, but I think we should if we do indeed sign Romo.
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Somebody said a few posts ago in this thread that we could maybe finish in the sellar of this division this season which is due to the dramatic roster improvement thru the Draft and free agency by our division competitors, and I think we have to consider that as a realistic possibility.
I'm not necessarily a Romo fan but if we are to make any kind of run this year he is still the QB available who probably does give us about the best chance we could have at the POs this year and maybe also in 2018. Obviosuly wed have to keep Mahomes (or whichever QB we might get from the 2017 Daft), active to protect so yea he might have to step up if the injury prone Romo wnet down be we can figure the complete QB DC later on if necessary.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Manning was dealing with a cervical nerve injury. This injury's functional return is extremely difficult to predict by even neurosurgeons.....occasionally those that show very little return at first can miraculously go on to very functional........................while many that show some initial promising functional improvement never go beyond. On the other hand, players' futures with histories like Romo with his multiple clavicular, multiple rib and multiple back fractures, and lumbar disc hernia surgery tend to become very predictable.
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We shall see Doc ... you had a pretty bleak outlook for Duane Brown also and he returned to form.

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it would be a major upset" if the Cowboys are able to find a trade partner for Tony Romo.

Dallas is holding Romo in hopes of getting the Broncos or Texans to give up a pick, but it does not seem like that is going to happen. The Broncos have leaked several reports trying to convince the Cowboys they are not interested, and the Texans do not seem prepared to give up anything in a trade either. Schefter believes the Cowboys will eventually be forced to release Romo.
 
TexansSeminole said:
If the idea was to sign Romo for around 10M per for maybe 2 years, with an out after the first year, I'd be more for it. That had to include a push for OL talent. But they've let a lot of these OL go, there isn't a lot to work with now. So it's on the draft, and I'm of the opinion that when you corner yourself in the draft, you're likely to lose out.

Right now, we don't have a RT, and the longer we wait, the more we will have to rely on a rookie.
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I think a rookie starter is the only option left.
 
jradMIT said:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it would be a major upset" if the Cowboys are able to find a trade partner for Tony Romo.

Dallas is holding Romo in hopes of getting the Broncos or Texans to give up a pick, but it does not seem like that is going to happen. The Broncos have leaked several reports trying to convince the Cowboys they are not interested, and the Texans do not seem prepared to give up anything in a trade either. Schefter believes the Cowboys will eventually be forced to release Romo.
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Congratulations to the texans for allowing another team's gm to dictate our off season free of charge.

This msg is WIC approved.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Right now, we don't have a RT, and the longer we wait, the more we will have to rely on a rookie.
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Or... we'll hear about how much Kendall Lamm has improved in the offseason. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't work on his body composition when OTAs start.

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JCTexan said:
Romo is the only thing that makes the Osweiler trade make sense. Otherwise why not pay Os for another year and keep the 2nd rounder?
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Agreed. We could have used that 2nd to trade up for Mahommes... or whoever.
 
I'm of the opinion that we sign Romo if we can & go with Romo, Savage & Weedon as our QB's this year. I won't draft a QB in this year's draft unless one of the top 4 miraculously drops to us in the 3rd. With my first two picks, I draft offensive linemen (Cam Robinson & the best available OT/OG in the 2nd, with emphasis on OT). The offensive line has to be fixed with an eye towards the future for Brown's eventual replacement. If we fix the line this year, then we can sell out for the best available QB in next year's reportedly deep draft at QB. Even if it means a Ricky Williams type trade to get our franchise QB. Build a strong foundation first & then add your play makers to finish it off. At least, that's one opinion. Lol
 
powda said:
Congratulations to the texans for allowing another team's gm to dictate our off season free of charge.

This msg is WIC approved.
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I hardly think the Cowboys are directing the Texans offseason. The Texans can sit back and simply wait out Jerry Jones and/or pick a QB in the draft. If anything, the Browns helped the Texans out with the Os trade.
 
DocBar said:
I hardly think the Cowboys are directing the Texans offseason. The Texans can sit back and simply wait out Jerry Jones and/or pick a QB in the draft. If anything, the Browns helped the Texans out with the Os trade.
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If not signing romo has dictated other moves we wouldve made then yeah, the cowboys are effecting our moves.

And your right, thanks to Cleveland for taking a 2nd rd pick and starting qb to cut our qb. All because we couldnt sit him for 1 year.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'd offer Detroit our 1st & 2nd from this year and our 1st from next season for Matt Stafford.
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That's just plain nuts.
thunderkyss said:
He's as good as Romo, a bit younger, & a tough S.O.B.
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But all the Texans have to do is wait on Romo to get cut (not saying I'm a fan of Romo coming here, but if he does, I'll pull for him) and what you're suggesting will hamstring the next two drafts. How will the Texans upgrade the OL without those picks?
 
powda said:
If not signing romo has dictated other moves we would've made then yeah, the cowboys are effecting our moves.

And your right, thanks to Cleveland for taking a 2nd rd pick and starting qb to cut our qb. All because we couldn't sit him for 1 year.
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You're forgetting to mention that they also get to take the cap hit and it frees up a valuable roster spot. Obviously Os wasn't going to be the Texans starting QB this year, so why not give up a 2nd round pick to free up both. The 2nd round pick stings, but I'm happy that the Texans admitted their mistake and got out of it the best way possible.
 
Uncle Rico said:
We shall see Doc ... you had a pretty bleak outlook for Duane Brown also and he returned to form.

Cup half full.
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My injury posts are based on firm surgical literature and extensive surgical experience. I don't use emotion or flipping coins to present the most likely potential prognosis. There are always those "outliers" that are fortunate to escape their expected fates..........most don't. Something like the blind squirrel and the nut.
As to your example of Brown, he beat the odds to return, although he played as expected at a lesser level which was less apparent due to the contrasting questionable play of most of the rest of the OL. It is to be seen if Brown's repair allows him to retain at least his performance level from last season, and if his lower extremity maintains or progressively deteriorates.
 
DocBar said:
That's just plain nuts.

But all the Texans have to do is wait on Romo to get cut (not saying I'm a fan of Romo coming here, but if he does, I'll pull for him) and what you're suggesting will hamstring the next two drafts. How will the Texans upgrade the OL without those picks?
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I'm looking at Stafford as an alternative to Romo. I'm not totally against Romo, but it's risky because of the injury prone thing.

Upgrading the OL won't be easy but if we get Stafford to sign a 4 year deal to consummate the trade, we'll have the most important position solved.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm looking at Stafford as an alternative to Romo. I'm not totally against Romo, but it's risky because of the injury prone thing.

Upgrading the OL won't be easy but if we get Stafford to sign a 4 year deal to consummate the trade, we'll have the most important position solved.
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I'm still not willing to give up 2 #1's and a 2 for Stafford. He's simply not worth it to me, especially considering he isn't mobile and the Texans OL is shaky at best.
 
powda said:
If not signing romo has dictated other moves we wouldve made then yeah, the cowboys are effecting our moves.

And your right, thanks to Cleveland for taking a 2nd rd pick and starting qb to cut our qb. All because we couldnt sit him for 1 year.
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That tells you how badly they wanted him out of the locker room
 
DocBar said:
I'm still not willing to give up 2 #1's and a 2 for Stafford. He's simply not worth it to me, especially considering he isn't mobile and the Texans OL is shaky at best.
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Detroit's OL isn't much different from ours. Still, he throws for 4000 yards a year, 20 some touchdowns, 30 isn't out of the realm of possibility. He'll start day one, week 2, week 3, etc...

If you could trade two 1sts & a 2nd for the best QB in this year's draft, or next years, would you? Stafford is better than both of them. in 2017 he'll be better than Mariotta, Winston, Goff, & Wentz.
 
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DocBar said:
I'm still not willing to give up 2 #1's and a 2 for Stafford. He's simply not worth it to me, especially considering he isn't mobile and the Texans OL is shaky at best.
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Stafford has gotten better the last few years and would be the best QB the Texans have ever had. I don't think 2 1's and a 2 are enough to land him, Detroit would want more I'm sure.
 
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