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Save us Savage!!!!!!!

OzzO said:
Savage prepping the team prior to his first start....

Pulls out his jersey....
Goes to talk with the team....
Put on some Low Rider...

I can see it



... now if they would play this scene in the stadium just before the game.....
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I would rather see that scene be from the movie Next or whichever one had Savage, I mean Cage with the ability to see up to two minutes into his future and change it. lol
 
DocBar said:
I would rather see that scene be from the movie Next or whichever one had Savage, I mean Cage with the ability to see up to two minutes into his future and change it. lol
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It is Next. 7 s except when it involved Jessica Biel. I liked it. 7 s would be a hell of a talent for an NFL QB.
 
dalemurphy said:
Arguably, our medical staff has done more to hold the organization back than any other area of the team... Starting with their assessments on the health of Tony Boselli and Ryan Young, continuing throughout Kubiak's tenure, re-introducing their incompetence with their handling and assessment of Clowney leading into that draft, and into this year's management of JJ's back.... With plenty evidence of incompetence in between.
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I wish people would quit harping on the Boselli thing.
The Texans knew he was damaged goods when they took him in the supplemental draft but took him anyway because there was a deal with Jacksonville that Jax would leave Gary Walker and Seth Payne unprotected so we could draft them too, but only if we took Boselli and his contract first.
 
michaelm said:
I wish people would quit harping on the Boselli thing.
The Texans knew he was damaged goods when they took him in the supplemental draft but took him anyway because there was a deal with Jacksonville that Jax would leave Gary Walker and Seth Payne unprotected so we could draft them too, but only if we took Boselli and his contract first.
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That was a deal about the contracts. Can't remember which shoulder was which - yes they knew shoulder #1 was post-surgery, but they did expect him to recover and play. More important, it was shoulder #2 that ultimately ended his career. Contract deal with a risk to it and then another cause for failure.
 
michaelm said:
I wish people would quit harping on the Boselli thing.
The Texans knew he was damaged goods when they took him in the supplemental draft but took him anyway because there was a deal with Jacksonville that Jax would leave Gary Walker and Seth Payne unprotected so we could draft them too, but only if we took Boselli and his contract first.
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It was a calculated risk that didn't pan out. It happens. It was still better than signing a great veteran who was simply finished and trying to hang on (Ed Reed). At least the Boselli signing had a *chance* to pay dividends.
 
ziggy29 said:
It was a calculated risk that didn't pan out. It happens. It was still better than signing a great veteran who was simply finished and trying to hang on (Ed Reed). At least the Boselli signing had a *chance* to pay dividends.
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Well if you thought Walker and Payne were good players for us (I think they were) then the Boselli signing DID pay dividends. If you remember, during the expansion draft, once a player from a team had a player selected they had the right to pull another player out of the pool. Without us taking on Boselli's contract we would have lost out on either Payne or Walker, as Michaelm stated.
 
DocBar said:
I would rather see that scene be from the movie Next or whichever one had Savage, I mean Cage with the ability to see up to two minutes into his future and change it. lol
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That was a cool movie, and it had a SWEET looking honey in it.... I dont remember her real name. However, it took me two times to completely understand the ending.
 
False Start said:
That was a cool movie, and it had a SWEET looking honey in it.... I dont remember her real name. However, it took me two times to completely understand the ending.
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Jessica Biel.
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stingray said:
Its his first start ever.. Made some clutch throws. Didn't turn the ball over. He played well in my opinion.
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I want you to be right - but i didn't see a single play where i thought wow. Defense and a missed kick won this game.
 
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Savage did not impress me as the savior of the Texans, but he's still better than assweiler. Weedon should be the backup, and assweiler demoted to water boy and jock strap cleaner.

The Texans still need a QB.
 
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powda said:
I want you to be right - but i didn't see a single play where i thought wow. Defense and a missed kick won this game.
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I saw him make two big time throws on blitzes where I was extremely impressed. The one to Hunt where I thought it was going to be an easy TD. And one to DHop for a first.

We need to be more aggressive in the red zone. These games are close because of too many field goals.
 
Savage didn't make any big mistakes and made some good throws. I counted 3 drops for first downs.

He's gotta be better to be an above average QB but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. He needs 3-4 more starts before I can say he's not the guy
 
Savage both disappointed and impressed me. I expected much more, but the rest of the offense didn't do him any favors. There were some WTF throws and some "Wow!" throws. His confidence will depend on him figuring out what his arm strength will allow him to get away with. And if he doesn't learn fast, he risks Smith and McNair deciding that Osweiler deserves another shot.

In other words, Savage better light it up in Tennessee and the playoffs or we'll have to suffer another bullsh!t QB competition next season.
 
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Brisco_County said:
In other words, Savage better light it up in Tennessee and the playoffs or we'll have to suffer another bullsh!t QB competition next season.
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I hope Tom Savage plays much better against the Titans next Sunday. Otherwise I'd be tempted to start Brock Osweiler in the playoffs. I didn't just write that did I? I wasn't impressed with Savage tonight but since we won I didn't really care. It's a team game and a team win. I was proud of the team's overall effort.
 
stingray said:
Its his first start ever.. Made some clutch throws. Didn't turn the ball over. He played well in my opinion.
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A poor man's Dak Prescott! It's okay but not good enough to beat the great teams. We were at home against a losing team missing three of their best players on both sides of the ball. And we had to escape with a 12-10 win thanks to Randy Bullock hooking one right.

We will have to play much, much, MUCH better in the playoffs to make some noise. Hopefully we'll be ready to play our best football. Because what I watched tonight wasn't good enough to beat a good team. Thankfully the Bengals are now an awful 5-9-1 team and injury plagued. Marvin Lewis will soon be fired as well.

I think I predicted a 45-6 Texans win in the Texans versus Bengals prediction thread. Needless to say 12-10 was a lot closer than I had thought! LOL
 
Bulls on Parade said:
A poor man's Dak Prescott! It's okay but not good enough to beat the great teams. We were at home against a losing team missing three of their best players on both sides of the ball. And we had to escape with a 12-10 win thanks to Randy Bullock hooking one right.

We will have to play much, much, MUCH better in the playoffs to make some noise. Hopefully we'll be ready to play our best football. Because what I watched tonight wasn't good enough to beat a good team. Thankfully the Bengals are now an awful 5-9-1 team and injury plagued. Marvin Lewis will soon be fired as well.

I think I predicted a 45-6 Texans win in the Texans versus Bengals prediction thread. Needless to say 12-10 was a lot closer than I had thought! LOL
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I'd like to see how other hooks work in your physics..
 
I was going to write sailing one right.
It shouldn't have been that close of a game!
To think Randy Bullock could have beaten us tonight.

I thought we would destroy the Bengals. I'm a little upset.
I'm hoping we come out and spank a Mariota-less Titans team.
Although we can just rest players and get ready for the playoffs.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I hope Tom Savage plays much better against the Titans next Sunday. Otherwise I'd be tempted to start Brock Osweiler in the playoffs. I didn't just write that did I? I wasn't impressed with Savage tonight but since we won I didn't really care. It's a team game and a team win. I was proud of the team's overall effort.
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It's the same scenario we've been in since cutting Schaub. "We already know the limitations of quarterback X, so we should at least explore the potential of quarterback Y."

I don't want Osweiler back on the field. We know what his limitations are, and we learn nothing by starting him.
 
Thorn said:
The Texans still need a QB.
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Yeah, took all of four plays tonight for me to realize it. Savage wasn't making quick decisions with the ball and was sacked quite a bit because of it. He has to show a hell of a lot more and take this team on a deep playoff run for me to think QB isn't our #1 need.
 
JCTexan said:
Yeah, took all of four plays tonight for me to realize it. Savage wasn't making quick decisions with the ball and was sacked quite a bit because of it. He has to show a hell of a lot more and take this team on a deep playoff run for me to think QB isn't our #1 need.
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Well, yes and no regarding your first point.

Firstly, the offensive line was sucking more ass than I had seen on Ass Night on Soul Train. Secondly, Savage only attempted 7 passes in the 1st half. This was just another example of where the coaches were over thinking things.

But I'll stop right there. I have no idea what Savage brings for the future. It's only natural for many fans to grasp at straws. I'm not going to do that, though.

The fact is, in the 2nd half they let Savage throw it around the yard, to pretty good success, I might add, as long as we aren't in the redzone. The most illuminating thing that OB said in his presser was basically that his philosophy in the 1st half was flawed, admitting that "Savage is a passer," which tells me that in the 1st half they had put Savage into game manager mode. Well, in the Jags game we saw Savage pass a lot and then in this game we saw the same thing, but only too late.

With Tom Savage you have to pass to set up the run. That's a lot like how they use that ol' boy up in New England.

So, I think more can be learned for Tom Savage the passing QB rather than Tom Savage the game manager.

Let him go up to Possum Holler and throw the rock from the word go, then let's see what we have.
 
What we need to do is draft or sign a new RG/RT! Good Lord Chris Clark shouldn't have a job in the NFL. Savage was OK, as he gets more PT things will slow down for him and his reads should happen faster. Love that he's calm under pressure, that's hard to teach. He's also a tough SOB. Lets also not forget there was ALOT of pressure in this game, national audience and a win and your in scenario. All things considered solid job!
 
Marcus said:
In his very first start, he didn't turn the ball over, didn't panic when the OL wasn't protecting him, and made a lot of throws that were dropped. Oh, and did I fail to mention he didn't turn the ball over?

NO ... we don't need to draft somebody.
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Agree. Our first picks should be OL.
 
Marcus said:
In his very first start, he didn't turn the ball over, didn't panic when the OL wasn't protecting him, and made a lot of throws that were dropped. Oh, and did I fail to mention he didn't turn the ball over?

NO ... we don't need to draft somebody.
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While all of what you said before your last sentence is true, they DO need to draft a QB. Always need to be drafting a QB every couple of years or so regardless.
 
Speedy said:
While all of what you said before your last sentence is true, they DO need to draft a QB. Always need to be drafting a QB every couple of years or so regardless.
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We need to draft a QB - just not this next year if Weeden will sign again. When we draft a QB he needs to be a #1 pick, if Savage does't develop. We don't need to draft a JAG to be a journeyman/backup. OK, if the organization decides to release Oz, we could draft a QB in the 6th or 7th to allow him to go through training camp, rather than signing a FA after final cuts. The 2018 draft is when I'd direct my attention to QB.
 
Marcus said:
In his very first start, he didn't turn the ball over, didn't panic when the OL wasn't protecting him, and made a lot of throws that were dropped. Oh, and did I fail to mention he didn't turn the ball over?

NO ... we don't need to draft somebody.
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We need to draft a QB every year. Doesn't have to be a 1st rounder, but that's what I would like to see them do.
 
Number19 said:
We need to draft a QB - just not this next year if Weeden will sign again. When we draft a QB he needs to be a #1 pick, if Savage does't develop. We don't need to draft a JAG to be a journeyman/backup. OK, if the organization decides to release Oz, we could draft a QB in the 6th or 7th to allow him to go through training camp, rather than signing a FA after final cuts. The 2018 draft is when I'd direct my attention to QB.
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Disagree.

The Texans don't have answers at QB right now, despite what anyone thinks about the guys currently on the roster. And you don't just wait around for a 1st rounder who could turn out to be a JAG like any 4th rounder could (Bortles). Where was Prescott drafted? Wilson? The Patriots have Tom Brady but that doesn't stop them from drafting QBs. 8 or 9 since they drafted Brady and 4 in the 3rd round or better since '08.

No, we don't need to draft journeyman backups, but you're never really drafting someone you think will be that anyway, are you? And like I said, just because you get the guy in the 1st doesn't mean he won't be a JAG, or just because you get him in the 3rd or 4th doesn't mean he'll be a JAG. Because it's such a crapshoot is why you always need to be looking for QB.
 
Savage didn't impress me over all but had a few good moments.
Plus, I'm not sure if they are listed as official drops, but I counted at least four catchable balls that weren't hauled in
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Savage got off to a rough start, but a lot of that was Allen and Clark getting pantsed. I like how he played down the stretch. He needs to play better for the complete game from here on out, but I haven't seen enough to move on or to say he's the one. Need more data.
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I was watching while spending Christmas Eve with family so I wasn't paying attention 100% but it looked like Savage was holding the ball too long.
 
Speedy said:
Disagree.

The Texans don't have answers at QB right now, despite what anyone thinks about the guys currently on the roster. And you don't just wait around for a 1st rounder who could turn out to be a JAG like any 4th rounder could (Bortles). Where was Prescott drafted? Wilson? The Patriots have Tom Brady but that doesn't stop them from drafting QBs. 8 or 9 since they drafted Brady and 4 in the 3rd round or better since '08.

No, we don't need to draft journeyman backups, but you're never really drafting someone you think will be that anyway, are you? And like I said, just because you get the guy in the 1st doesn't mean he won't be a JAG, or just because you get him in the 3rd or 4th doesn't mean he'll be a JAG. Because it's such a crapshoot is why you always need to be looking for QB.
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Two schools of thought, each having their pluses and minuses. Having gone through David Carr and having his potential ruined because of a poor OL, I'd like to see our OL shored up first. We've just gone through what I'd call a crappy season because of our QB and think we can do no worse for one more season with Savage under center.
 
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WolverineFan said:
Have some patience. Savage may be the guy, he may not be. The only thing we do know is that we don't know anything. He's had one start.


Tom Brady 1st career start...

13/23 for 168 Yards


Good thing for the Pats they had a little bit of patience and let him develop.
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Yep, and Aaron Rodgers was 18/22 for 178 (4.4 yard average) and a TD. Not stellar either.

So the jury is still out on Savage. We saw indications of quick decision making against the Jags, and the Bengals came in with a game plan to confuse him. In any case, he was making throws that Osweiler simply cannot make on time.
 
With the limited look we've had, I think Savage should be the guy going into next year but we should be drafting somebody anyway. Let either Weeden or Osweiller go and let the new guy sit third string for a few years while we see what we really have in Savage. He hasn't wowed much but he does look like a guy that will be perfectly serviceable winning a lot of games with a great defense and a solid running game. Our biggest draft need should be O line. Our O line flat out sucked last night.
 
Deion Sanders made these points after the game:
  • The offense ran the ball only 13 times in the 2nd half. Too much of a burden for an inexperienced QB (I don't think they had a choice).
  • With an adequate TE and WR's that can get vertical, we should expect more from this offense (duh).
  • It appeared that O'Brien didn't trust Savage enough with the playbook, maybe indicating "We're not going to let this kid lose this game for us," which consequently kept the plays too simple.
  • After halftime, O'Brien "opened up the playbook a little more."
  • Savage has a live arm, can make all the throws.
 
WolverineFan said:
Have some patience. Savage may be the guy, he may not be. The only thing we do know is that we don't know anything. He's had one start.


Tom Brady 1st career start...

13/23 for 168 Yards


Good thing for the Pats they had a little bit of patience and let him develop.
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I wish I could "like" that one more than once.

Yeah, I know. Y'all saw what he did last week. So you got drunk on the kook-aid and thought he'd come out and go 30-35 for 400 yards, and throw 5 TDs.

But because he didn't do that, your knee jerks you completely in the opposite direction. Ok, so he hung onto the ball a couple of times and got sacked instead of risking an interception.

His very first NFL start. C'mon guys. Really?
 
Everyone says Savage has good arm talent.

The eye test says he's more composed than Os and pretty composed in general.

The players apparently supported him to get an opportunity which is a positive.

All positives.

I really don't have any negatives to throw in there yet.

As for the draft question, I'm a BPA guy so if there is value there draft a QB.
 
Marcus said:
I wish I could "like" that one more than once.

Yeah, I know. Y'all saw what he did last week. So you got drunk on the kook-aid and thought he'd come out and go 30-35 for 400 yards, and throw 5 TDs.

But because he didn't do that, your knee jerks you completely in the opposite direction. Ok, so he hung onto the ball a couple of times and got sacked instead of risking an interception.

His very first NFL start. C'mon guys. Really?
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Wish I could like this post more than once.

Spot on

Savage look about how I thought he would look. I wish BOB had opened up the offense a little bit earlier. It almost cost them the game.
 
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