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Is this the most talented team we've ever had ?

Is this the most talented team the Texans have had ?

  • Is the most talented team

    Votes: 32 71.1%
  • Is not most talented team

    Votes: 13 28.9%

  • Total voters
    45
I could do your reaearch for you once again but I won't. Proven you wrong 50 times in a row and you just keep on pulling crap out of your ass. Try for once in your life to prove you're right instead of demanding someone prove you wrong.

Scared, can't do it, wrong?

We both know the answer along with the fact your reply will be an attack on me rather than proof.

Be good.

I will do the Packers for you. I'm not going to waste more of my time doing the others.

LT Bahkitari/Long time starter, LG Lane Taylor 4th yr with team, Center J.C. Tretter 3rd yr, RG T.J. Lang longtime starter, RT, Bryan Bulaga Long time starter

QB Rodgers Long time starter

RB Lacy 3rd yr

TE. Cook New Starter

Wr's Nelson Long time Starter, Cobb Long time starter, Adams 3rd yr.

Defense

DE Datone Jones 4th yr Guiron New starter Mike Daniels long time starter

OLB Peppers 3rd season with Packers, ILB Matthews Long time starter, ILB Jon Ryan 2nd yr as starter draft pick, OLB Nick Perry 5th yr

CB Demarious Randall 2nd yr draft, SS HA Ha Clinton Dix 3rd yr draft pick CB Sam Shields long time starter

K Mason Crosby Long time starter, P Jacob Schum Rookie punter. just replace a long time P Sean Ryan.

So no teams dont turnover every 3 yrs. There is usually some turnover but not like the Texans have had. I'm willing to bet the Texans have had more turnover than any team that is a playoff contender/in the playoffs last yr, but I will let you do the research on that.

There's your answer, thanks for calling me out and making me waste my time.
 
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We have something like 9 or 10 new starters on offense since last year. Not many teams can say that.


Double posts have been an issue and there was a post about it. Apparently, more then one "gerbil" had the same issue. Seems juvenile to focus on double posts rather than true content of a post.
 
We have something like 9 or 10 new starters on offense since last year. Not many teams can say that.


Double posts have been an issue and there was a post about it. Apparently, more then one "gerbil" had the same issue. Seems juvenile to focus on double posts rather than true content of a post.

-This double post must've been an accident
 
We have something like 9 or 10 new starters on offense since last year. Not many teams can say that.


Double posts have been an issue and there was a post about it. Apparently, more then one "gerbil" had the same issue. Seems juvenile to focus on double posts rather than true content of a post.

- squeak squeak i think my wheels broke.
 
I'm no longer a Texans fan but I still want to talk football or rant....That out of the way....

My disdain for OB as a coach has nothing to do with Kubiak. I wanted Kubiak gone for a while before it finally happened. Matter of fact I still don't like him as a head coach but he's probably grown some since leaving here.

As far as that **** show of a game this past Thursday, that was all about coaching. Period, the end. All the Oline stuff, Brock the lock, invisible Watt, fumbles....whatever.

If you switch the coaching staffs of those two teams and gave them the exact same available personnel Belichick would wipe his ass with OB again.

Belichick would've had that rookies head spinning and committing dumb mistakes and on offense he'd have marched the ball up and down the damn field.

The Texans won their first two games, BECAUSE of timely plays made by the talent on the field. The sorry ass Bears gave them all they wanted and that Chiefs game could've gone either way with a break here or there. The talent on this team is really good. Brock may not be an elite QB but he can win games against good teams with a damn coach that knows what they are doing.

OBs gameplan offense is **** and there is nothing innovative or game changing that he's doing. The most creative he got was the damn WattCat and that was the ugliest **** I've ever seen.

Other than that he's done nothing but make the playoffs in the AFC south when it was statistically THE WORST it's ever been.

There is something wrong at the core of the Texans organization. Coaches and players that are good in other places come here and look like crap. We rarely if ever get a guy who has underperformed elsewhere and then comes here and plays better. Seems like a whole lot of players over the years have come here and sucked. Not even been average. Just flat out SUCK.

That loss on Thursday was like thinking you are putting a fine piece of candy in your mouth only to bite down and realize it's candy coated feces and vomit. The only way that team gets better is if OB gets better. Gelling on offense, injured players coming back...that ain't gonna help.

No matter what team is made available this coaching staff is capable of being embarrassed on any given Sunday.

1000 times agreed and that core begins and ends with Bob/Cal McNair and Rick Smith. They have been the constants for over a decade. I mean if you dont like BOB think about who hired him and then you will be getting to the heart of the matter.
 
Talk to me again when they hopefully go 9-7 again.

We're in the 3rd year of 'offensive genius' and just scored 0 points.

But thank you for not writing 27 paragraphs in justification. Guess even you ran out.

Based on your comments its obvious you're still bleeding from your boy Kubiak getting canned and shipped out of here.

As a mod though, you could at least grow a pair of balls and admit what you really want which is for this regime to fail and stop being fraud about it. Geez, you make it so obvious. When Kubiak was here we were in year 5 and you were making shitty excuses for a team that went 6-10, but in year 3, 2-1 gets your diaper soaking wet and stinky. Lol! OB will be here this year and next year bruh. I bet you're hoping Tennessee just stomps them aren't you? :hobie:
 
I don't want this regime to fail. I want them to show their genius. Actually f'king anything at this point. What is our offense? Do you see NE when we play? Take the Kubiak stick out of your ass and answer that.
 
Based on your comments its obvious you're still bleeding from your boy Kubiak getting canned and shipped out of here.

As a mod though, you could at least grow a pair of balls and admit what you really want which is for this regime to fail and stop being fraud about it. Geez, you make it so obvious. When Kubiak was here we were in year 5 and you were making shitty excuses for a team that went 6-10, but in year 3, 2-1 gets your diaper soaking wet and stinky. Lol! OB will be here this year and next year bruh. I bet you're hoping Tennessee just stomps them aren't you? :hobie:

I don't understand this. After year one, we had people hating on Kubiak. Three years later, after two 8-8 seasons, we had people hating on Kubiak.

Did you get on those people for "wanting that regime to fail"? Or were you one of the ones with the pink soap after year two?
 
I don't understand this. After year one, we had people hating on Kubiak. Three years later, after two 8-8 seasons, we had people hating on Kubiak.

Did you get on those people for "wanting that regime to fail"? Or were you one of the ones with the pink soap after year two?

I never wanted Kubiak to fail in the first place. I embraced Kubiak with open arms from the beginning. Thats completely different than how many of you have created completely different expectations for this regime and have trashed it since it walked into the door out of emotional stress from what happened with Kubiak. You guys were popping champagne when the Texans went 9-7 in their 3rd year all because the Pats took a bunch of their starters out, but when OB goes 9-7 in his first two back to back seasons it was nothing but salt flung at him the majority of the time. They're 2-1 currently, and people swear their season is over and he is the worst HC that has graced Houston.:overreact:
 
This is from Nov 2, 2008 (Kubiak's third season)

I have no idea what you think you are pointing out here. You wasted all that time finding a quote I'd say in Kubiak's first season or any HC for that matter regarding a certain play or situation. I don't like it when OB does it either. :wadepalm:
 
I never wanted Kubiak to fail in the first place. I embraced Kubiak with open arms from the beginning. Thats completely different than how many of you have created completely different expectations for this regime and have trashed it since it walked into the door out of emotional stress from what happened with Kubiak.


I for one was fine with hiring O'b. He wasn't the guy I wanted, but I was ok. Then he brought in that college mentallity... Still, I haven't (& I know you don't just mean me) started to root for him to lose.

I have no idea what you think you are pointing out here. You wasted all that time finding a quote I'd say in Kubiak's first season or any HC for that matter regarding a certain play or situation. I don't like it when OB does it either. :wadepalm:

It didn't take long. But the search engine only went back so far. There were several posts where you wanted Kubiak ousted after that season (Kubiak's third). That particular post was the oldest I could find..... I thought it was cute.
 
I for one was fine with hiring O'b. He wasn't the guy I wanted, but I was ok. Then he brought in that college mentallity... Still, I haven't (& I know you don't just mean me) started to root for him to lose.



It didn't take long. But the search engine only went back so far. There were several posts where you wanted Kubiak ousted after that season (Kubiak's third). That particular post was the oldest I could find..... I thought it was cute.

I wasn't in here in Kubiak's first or second season. I came in towards the very end of the 2nd I believe or in that off season. I didn't like him by that time, but continued hoping that he would turn things around and he didn't. Things got worse, and into that 3rd season I wanted him gone. I didn't trash him the minute he got hired and look for a ton of negativities about him right off the bat like these other guys have in here with OB. They want him to fail just so they can have some sort of justification in their minds about what happened with Kubiak here which is one of the most sissy things a grown man could do, but hey some have their emotions out of check.

If someone is just now hating on the HC then fine, whatever. If its over a week 3 loss then that is silly if you thought the team had all this potential before. One loss shouldn't put the entire season in doubt. Kind of makes someone look like a knee jerking person that didn't know anything in the first place if their opinions change that rapidly. Right now I don't see that many "great" team in the AFC so far. I see some that could end up being great, but that also could include the Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Bengals, Raiders, and Chiefs. A lot of those teams have the potential to get really good by playoff time. The only great teams I see right now are the Patriots and the Broncos.
 
I didn't trash him the minute he got hired and look for a ton of negativities about him right off the bat like these other guys have in here with OB. They want him to fail just so they can have some sort of justification in their minds about what happened with Kubiak here which is one of the most sissy things a grown man could do, but hey some have their emotions out of check.


Look, you've taken shots at me as if I were one of those guys. But I guarantee you nothing would make me happier than O'b winning the Super Bowl (well, there is one thing but the wife says that ain't never going to happen).

A lot of the guys you point to, I see them rooting for success as well. There's one guy I believe fits your description.

But you seem to take issue with anyone who criticizes O'b.

I agree, some guys are over reacting to Thursday's loss. But most of us want to see the Texans succeed.
 
Look, you've taken shots at me as if I were one of those guys. But I guarantee you nothing would make me happier than O'b winning the Super Bowl (well, there is one thing but the wife says that ain't never going to happen).

Well you really seem like you hate this regime a lot, and have criticized them since they rolled in. That was after 8 years of another regime that didn't have any good seasons until SIX YEARS into it. When I see guys who who faithfully got vicious for years every time Smithiak was criticized when they were below 500 the majority of their tenure, you have to admit that its pretty weak and hypocritical as a fan. I won't say that you haven't still rooted for the team though. Sometimes your intentions with your posts are confusing at times.

A lot of the guys you point to, I see them rooting for success as well. There's one guy I believe fits your description.

But you seem to take issue with anyone who criticizes O'b.

I agree, some guys are over reacting to Thursday's loss. But most of us want to see the Texans succeed.

Not true at all. I only see about 5 or 6 guys like that in here. Not a lot. The ones that are make it very obvious as they typically don't say a word when things are going well and the team is in in stride. The minute a bad game or minor setback takes place, they're all over it and way over reactionary pushing their agenda about how we will never have a shot. And no I haven't taken issue with "anyone" who criticizes him at all. Not even close. That's a big exaggeration. But again, if one loss in weak 3 means we need to over haul this entire team and coaching staff when most people gave this team a ton of potential before the season and they're sitting at 2-1 currently that sounds either like an irrational fan or someone who was ready to scream that the moment adversity popped up. Teams go through adversity every season and certain ones rise from it. Others perish. We'll see what this team does. Last year they had a lot of adversity early on, and they got hot and won the division after that which shows a history that it "can" happen. Not sure why one loss makes our season over. If thats how one feels, then might as well find something else to do on Sundays. This team has way to many pieces for me to lose all faith and enjoyment of an entire season after one bad game.
 
I know this team since Bill has been in charge has taken some bad losses. They tell me how complicated this offense is, but I see Jimmy G, Matt Cassell and others look better than Brock. History says wco is a difficult offrnse, but look at wentz and simean. So, give me results, not excuses.
 
I completely agree with your take about guys flip flopping on the season.

Well we have to look at those Ravens from a few years ago that were like 8-8 or 9-7. They got hot in the playoffs and Flacco played out of his mind. Who expected Flacco to do that all of a sudden? No one did. Who is to say that couldn't happen to Oz this year or next? Not saying it will, but Flacco wasn't playing like an elite QB throughout that season. Eli Manning played about as average as could be BOTH times they won the SB, and hardly anyone saw that coming even the 2nd time it did. The first SB run that Eli had, he made a ton of clutch plays that he wasn't known for before that. He was this goofy Manning brother that was nowhere near as good as Peyton. Football is a strange sport, and if history has shown us anything, it shows us that what matters most is who is healthy and playing strong at the end of the year. The Patriots were unstoppable last season. No one could touch them. Brady didn't even throw a pick until like week 9 or something like that. But once that Oline kept dropping over and over and the skill players as well, no one could block for him. He got killed and their entire offense became a shell of its former self practically. They were still good, but not nearly as powerful. Teams can change dramatically throughout a season. The Texans just need to focus on each week at a time and try to win their division. If they can win the division, they want to be one of those teams that are peaking by season's end. Nothing in week 3 determines any of that, so people jumping on and off bandwagons looks lame after just one loss this early.
 
I flip flopped big time. I went from being hyped about this team to not giving a damn what they do. And I am going to do other things on Sundays. I'm not watching these guys anymore. However it's not about just that one loss for me. That game was the final straw for me personally....but I don't get the critique of how other fans react to the team's success or failure and never will. If it makes you feel better to keep hope alive and remain full of faith in the team then by all means go for it.
 
I flip flopped big time. I went from being hyped about this team to not giving a damn what they do. And I am going to do other things on Sundays. I'm not watching these guys anymore. However it's not about just that one loss for me. That game was the final straw for me personally....but I don't get the critique of how other fans react to the team's success or failure and never will. If it makes you feel better to keep hope alive and remain full of faith in the team then by all means go for it.

Well if one game in week 3 changes everything you thought for months leading up to it, then you likely weren't that in tune with this team to begin with if it changes from just that. It doesn't make me feel better or worse. I just don't see how people can think they understand this sport that much if their opinions can change about an entire team on a weekly basis. It shows no kind of foundation for an opinion of any structure. I highly doubt that most Steelers fans have given up on their season after getting blown out in week three like we did. Honestly though, I'll bet that you'll be pumped again if they win the next two games. Personally I think they'll go 1-1.
 
Pittsburgh just got beat 34 to 3 but it didn't look as gutless as our 27-0 colonoscopy

So we're down to making microscopic comparisons of who had a more acceptable beat down? Lol!

I could actually argue that its worse for them since they've been a team together longer on offense and are full of vets who have played together longer compared to a new QB and a bunch of young receivers with an injured Oline. Doesn't really matter though. A beat down is what it is.
 
Well if one game in week 3 changes everything you thought for months leading up to it, then you likely weren't that in tune with this team to begin with if it changes from just that. It doesn't make me feel better or worse. I just don't see how people can think they understand this sport that much if their opinions can change about an entire team on a weekly basis. It shows no kind of foundation for an opinion of any structure. I highly doubt that most Steelers fans have given up on their season after getting blown out in week three like we did. Honestly though, I'll bet that you'll be pumped again if they win the next two games. Personally I think they'll go 1-1.

Again, it wasn't just the one game.

OB has been completely embarrassed 4 times in the last what 12 games? That is 1/3 of the games that an OB lead team has come out and been completely dismantled. That is not even counting the first game of last season against the Chiefs. His wonky QB decisions were no help either.

He talks a good game about attacking opponents weaknesses and being "multiple", but so far I've not seen this come to fruition which leads me to believe that is what he wants to do (like Belichick) but he doesn't really know how to do it..At least no where near on a consistent basis....

Last year he won the AFCs pretty much because the division was terrible. I went and looked and it was the worst the division has ever been as a whole and by a good margin.

I addressed the Steelers thing in another thread. I don't think those two situations are the same. And I don't think anyone in America does.

You probably don't either if you actually ask yourself, "who is more likely to bounce back from their blowout loss, the Steelers or the Texans?"

Answer is pretty easy for me.
 
Again, it wasn't just the one game.

OB has been completely embarrassed 4 times in the last what 12 games? That is 1/3 of the games that an OB lead team has come out and been completely dismantled. That is not even counting the first game of last season against the Chiefs. His wonky QB decisions were no help either.

He talks a good game about attacking opponents weaknesses and being "multiple", but so far I've not seen this come to fruition which leads me to believe that is what he wants to do (like Belichick) but he doesn't really know how to do it..At least no where near on a consistent basis....

Last year he won the AFCs pretty much because the division was terrible. I went and looked and it was the worst the division has ever been as a whole and by a good margin.

I addressed the Steelers thing in another thread. I don't think those two situations are the same. And I don't think anyone in America does.

You probably don't either if you actually ask yourself, "who is more likely to bounce back from their blowout loss, the Steelers or the Texans?"

Answer is pretty easy for me.

I'd put my money on the Steelers as well to bounce back, but look at how many times this current Steelers team has failed to make the SB? That was quite a while ago when they last went. They've added and lost a lot of players in that regime. They haven't made any real noise in the playoffs since. The only real reason why I'd pick them to bounce back easier is because they have a proven QB in Big Ben who has been good for years, and we have an unknown with potential in Oz. Other than that, the Texans have a much stronger defense that I have confidence in. Our QB situation is what will make or break this team no matter what.
 
You probably don't either if you actually ask yourself, "who is more likely to bounce back from their blowout loss, the Steelers or the Texans?"

Answer is pretty easy for me.

Texans bounced back pretty well last year after the Miami loss didn't they? I get your frustration and your disdain for bad performances. I will never understand the reasoning for abandoning a team and throwing in your fandom over one loss. Never have, never will. It's week 3, get to the playoffs and anything can happen.
 
I'd put my money on the Steelers as well to bounce back, but look at how many times this current Steelers team has failed to make the SB?

That is true...But all it's ever been about for me as a fan was hope. If I'm a Steelers fan, I have hope that they can go far in the play-offs. Make a legit go at it.

I don't have hope for this team under OB. And I'm not claiming I'm right or anyone's thinking on this is wrong. I'm just saying, from my perspective after taking it all in...Even three days later, I don't feel any different about that loss and where this staff is heading. I lost hope under Kubiak. I've lost hope under OB.

Both of those guys had/will have the opportunity to prove me wrong. If it happens, then I'll be happy for OB and it'll suck that I gave up on him and his team so early, but that's where I'm at right now. No faith in him or the organization at this point.
 
Texans bounced back pretty well last year after the Miami loss didn't they?



They did have some good wins after that, so I guess they did kind of "bounce back". But then they got drug by the Chiefs at home in the Playoffs.

I'm not saying that I think they'll suck for the rest of the season at this point.

On the contrary...I think they should still win the division...Win a good amount of games...

But when it's time to whip 'em out I think they are going to have some shrinkage which seems to be par for the course. I just feel like OB's teams are capable of being embarrassed on any given day by a well prepared, well coached team.
 
Carolina lost to a good team today too. Wonder if their dumpsters are also burning

Actually, on any given fans site you will see fans "hating" on the team and also fans telling the haters that it's going to be ok. So yes, you likely would see some dumpsters burning if you went to their board. Maybe not like here though. And you probably won't see as many here as you do on a Cleveland Brows forum.

Which is why I don't get into telling people how to feel.
 
They did have some good wins after that, so I guess they did kind of "bounce back". But then they got drug by the Chiefs at home in the Playoffs.

I'm not saying that I think they'll suck for the rest of the season at this point.

On the contrary...I think they should still win the division...Win a good amount of games...

But when it's time to whip 'em out I think they are going to have some shrinkage which seems to be par for the course. I just feel like OB's teams are capable of being embarrassed on any given day be a well prepared, well coached team.

Then I just don't see why you're so salty about them "now." If you feel that way, it really just depends on what kind of team they look like after week 17 Rey. You are right that it could happen that way if they're injured and unhealthy or just good but not really a great team. A lot could change from now to then, and I guarantee you a lot will change all around the NFL from what we think we know "today." I never expected a SB run this year any way, but didn't put it out of the question and I still don't. My buddy who is a Pats fan went on and on about how they were going to win it last season, and I kept reminding him that we'd have to see what their team looked like once the playoffs started. They had no Oline, and didn't get it done and Belicheck also screwed them badly coaching wise in the season and the playoffs. That guy makes mistakes too. The broncos capitalized off of his huge mistake in post season. This is a pretty new team offensively, so I expect a lot of volatility through 6 weeks most likely. Don't forget the Texans best season record wise. They went 10-1 or 11-1. Then they went 1-4 and looked awful. Once the playoffs started they were garbage, and other teams got stronger. The NFL season is a long war.
 
Actually, on any given fans site you will see fans "hating" on the team and also fans telling the haters that it's going to be ok. So yes, you likely would see some dumpsters burning if you went to their board. Maybe not like here though. And you probably won't see as many here as you do on a Cleveland Brows forum.

Which is why I don't get into telling people how to feel.

I know that was to Dakota, but I am not telling anyone how to feel. Maybe criticizing the flip flopping some though. The ones that won't admit how badly they want the team to secretly lose is a little hysterical to me, because they won't come on out and admit it.

I like your honesty and disclosure. Makes it a lot easier to discuss things.
 
They did have some good wins after that, so I guess they did kind of "bounce back". But then they got drug by the Chiefs at home in the Playoffs.

I'm not saying that I think they'll suck for the rest of the season at this point.

On the contrary...I think they should still win the division...Win a good amount of games...

But when it's time to whip 'em out I think they are going to have some shrinkage which seems to be par for the course. I just feel like OB's teams are capable of being embarrassed on any given day by a well prepared, well coached team.

Any team is capable of being embarrassed on any given Sunday. I recall in 2014, the Patriots were embarrassed on national television, getting demolished by the Chiefs 41-14. Do I have to mention what the Pats ended up doing that season?
 
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Any team is capable of being embarrassed on any given Sunday. I recall in 2014, the Patriots were embarrassed on national television, getting demolished by the Chiefs 41-14. Do I have to mention what the Pats ended up doing that season?


The Texans have been embarrassed 4 times in their last 12 games.

That's not even counting the other games where the scoreboard looks decent but they were actually hapless the entire game.

So yeah....I remember that time or two when this team or that team got blown out.

Do you remember the time it happened in 1/3 of the last 12 games? Think about that. Every three games the Texans have been completely embarrassed in the last 12 they've played.
 
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I'm not sure about fans "flip flopping", but I know many of us have had to reevaluate our rather misguided optimism about the team.

And I get that "it's just one game" and all that. I think this team could win 9-10 games this season and make the playoffs. Yay! :texflag:

However, that one game is also about historical trends that this franchise, and even this regime, tends to get its butt handed to it by the elite teams, or even decent teams, especially on big stages.

Many fans are going to have a prove-it-to-me attitude about this team and the post-season. And there is nothing in its history to tell us that it should be otherwise. This team is like wax. It melts under heat.

It doesn't mean that we won't be there to root them on. But predicting Super Bowls might not be on the agenda.
 
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Overall, I think this is the most talented team we've ever had... the offensive coaching staff seems to be way below par tho
 
Any team is capable of being embarrassed on any given Sunday. I recall in 2014, the Patriots were embarrassed on national television, getting demolished by the Chiefs 41-14. Do I have to mention what the Pats ended up doing that season?

I remember the talk was that they should trade Brady.
 
I'm not sure about fans "flip flopping", but I know many of us have had to reevaluate our rather misguided optimism about the team.

And I get that "it's just one game" and all that. I think this team could win 9-10 games this season and make the playoffs. Yay! :texflag:

However, that one game is also about historical trends that this franchise, and even this regime, tends to get its butt handed to it by the elite teams, or even decent teams, especially on big stages.

Many fans are going to have a prove-it-to-me attitude about this team and the post-season. And there is nothing in its history to tell us that it should be otherwise. This team is like wax. It melts under heat.

It doesn't mean that we won't be there to root them on. But predicting Super Bowls might not be on the agenda.

Whoever was predicting SB's was foolish from the start. I warned many in here that the offense on this team would likely struggle in their first 6 games or so.

I always peep the guys in here who flip flop every week season by season. Kubiak is a great coach. Kubiak sucks! Back and forth every other two games with no real consistency to their observations. Sorry, but it just shows that they've got pretty much zero knowledge if their opinion changes that quickly and that easily. You can't actually call someone that changes their thoughts as knowledgable about anything if they can't keep any pattern of consistency with their thoughts. It shows that they've got pretty much zero effective analysis for drawing conclusions. They're just speaking based on whatever direction the wind blows, and knee jerking back and forth.
 
Whoever was predicting SB's was foolish from the start. I warned many in here that the offense on this team would likely struggle in their first 6 games or so.

I always peep the guys in here who flip flop every week season by season. Kubiak is a great coach. Kubiak sucks! Back and forth every other two games with no real consistency to their observations. Sorry, but it just shows that they've got pretty much zero knowledge if their opinion changes that quickly and that easily. You can't actually call someone that changes their thoughts as knowledgable about anything if they can't keep any pattern of consistency with their thoughts. It shows that they've got pretty much zero effective analysis for drawing conclusions. They're just speaking based on whatever direction the wind blows, and knee jerking back and forth.

Such is the nature of fans, man. We are ultimately following, and often getting emotionally attached to, an entertainment medium that we have absolutely no control to even slightly influence the outcomes.

And when emotions get involved, rational thought and logic can go out the window.
 
Any team is capable of being embarrassed on any given Sunday. I recall in 2014, the Patriots were embarrassed on national television, getting demolished by the Chiefs 41-14. Do I have to mention what the Pats ended up doing that season?

You had to go back 2 years to find that game. We've gotten embarrassed (and blanked) twice in the past 4 games. You have to really screw up to not even get in range for a field goal the entire game.
 
Every time i read this thread title i give out a little chuckle. :corrosion:

It was a question, at the time we were 2-0, sporting the 2nd ranked defense. I still think it is one of the most talented teams we've had, just going to take a little bit to Gel. Didn't see you chuckling when i made the thread "everyones the smartest guy in the room after the fact"
 
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Yeah right. 2011, for instance, was infinitely more talented than this mediocre group.

Let's see.....which is the better 4some here: Osweiller-Miller-Hopkins-Griffen.....or Schaub-Foster-Dre-Daniels. One was a top 5 offense in the NFL before Schaub was injured, the other is the last ranked offense in the NFL according to advanced statistics. Which one do you go with?

Or let's compare this garbage 2016 OL of Old washed up injured Brown-bust 2nd rounder Su'a-Filo-Mancz-Allen-Newton or 2011's powerhouse line of Prime Brown-Briesel-Myers-Smith-Winston. This years line is not even in the same stratosphere as 2011s.
 
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