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Texans vs. Bears Injury Report

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HOUSTON TEXANS

Wednesday (9/7/16)

DID NOT PARTICIPATE
T Duane Brown Knee (he is likely to enjoy this status for a longer time than most would like to see)

LIMITED PARTICIPATION
WR Will Fuller Hamstring (new)

DE J.J. Watt Back (he is positive he will play and feels that he should not be placed on a snap count limit)

FULL PARTICIPATION
ILB Akeem Dent Concussion

T Derek Newton Hamstring



CHICAGO BEARS

LIMITED PARTICIPAtION

DB Bush, Deon Hamstring (new.......but has had soft tissue injuries in the past, including sports hernia and hamstring injuries in college)

DB Callahan, Bryce Groin (.........In college , he missed the entire end of 2014 with a significant quadriceps and knee injury...........as an UDFA, he spent last year on the Bears PS..........he has been dealing with a hamstring for the past 2 week.......missed the last preseason game.........what is not being widely reported is that he has also suffered a groin strain)

DB Fuller, Kyle Knee (after dealing with MCL injuries since 2014, he underwent arthroscopic knee surgery to "clean up" an injury that hampered him throughout the summer and into TC........just returned to practice 2 days ago)

FB Lasike, Paul Wrist (new........not good for your lead blocker or pass protector to have)

OL Long, Kyle Shoulder (July 28 he suffered a calf strain and only missed 4 games...........he then suffered a shoulder labrum injury aug 18 preseason game........hadn't practiced since until this week.......the injury will require surgery, but with his hefty new contract, he is obviously opting to put it off until after this season and will undoubtedly need to wear a brace for as long as he can hold off surgery..........experimented at right tackle..................it is interesting that despite his injury, Long was just signed to a four-year, $40 million dollar extension)

WR Thompson, Deonte Knee/Ankle (was released by the Bills in Sept of 2015 with an injury settlement for a foot injury.............he has been dealing with foot injuries throughout the 2013 and 2014 seasons before that.............he is likely now demonstrating this new revelation of knee and ankle problems due to the fact that his foot is still giving him intermittent problems)

DL Washington, Cornelius Ankle/Knee (September 12, last year's opener, he ruptured his quadriceps tendon (ala. Duane Brown) and was placed on IR for surgery...........August 11, making it back from that injury, he suffered what was referred to as a "serious ankle and knee injury")


ADDENDUM: SEE NEXT POST



 
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Bears players that have recently been dealing with injuries, but are not now on the Injury Report:

Josh Sitton G...............Last year, he was dealing with nagging knee and ankle injuries.............and near the end of the season, he was significantly impacted with a back issue. As I've posted previously, back issues, once they begin, commonly become chronic and progressive.

Alshon Jeffery WR .............Last year, he was riddled with injuries including a broken hand, groin, shoulder, knee and hamstring problems. He lost so much time that he only managed 367 receiving yards on 24 catches with three touchdowns.............an extreme dropoff from ~1500 total yards from each of his previous 2 years. He missed most of TC last year, weeks 2-5, 11, and then in December missing weeks 15 and 16 on IR. This training camp, he again missed time with another hamstring injury, although he managed to appear sparingly in the first 3 preseason games. My question at this time is, "how long until the next tweak?"

Eddie Royal WR.......Last year missed significant time with a significant unidentified knee injuries preceded by hip, then back, then ankle injuries. He missed 2 weeks of TC after Aug 1 concussion........Aug 29 came off concussion protocol.

Zach Miller TE...........Aug 1 concussion protocol.......missed the first 3 preseason games........cleared only Aug 29.........no TE depth beyond

Danny Trevathan ILB.........Dealt with hamstring issues last year.......and dislocated his knee cap in December 2014 for which he was placed on IR for surgery (interesting to note that prior to that, he was initially place on IR designated to return in October for 2 fractures (one "just above the knee cap", the other higher up on the femur)..........August 3 injured his knee missing TC practice and game time..........He injured his hamstring August 17 and missed the following preseason game.

Tracy Porter CB...........had offseason shoulder surgery in 2014 and missed all the preseason and a good deal of the regular season only to come back for 3 games to be placed on IR with an AC shoulder dislocation........Last year, he struggled with a nagging hamstring issue through the offseason and sat out the first 2 games of the regular season and could only play a couple of snaps before being removed from the 3rd game.....this year, he suffered a concussion August 27 (his third).........only some side work.......just returned to practice 2 days ago


For those interested, these are Bears players that the Texans won't be facing, but contribute to the once believed to-be-available list:


Hroniss Grasu C (a right ACL suffered in practice August 7 and was placed on IR August 30............he was the Bears' presumptive starter)

Pernell McPhee OLB ...........in college, he underwent 2012 offseason surgery for an Acl and MCL.............after coming back from that, he tore his groin..............he underwent surgery on his left knee (secretive reason) this past February, and his recovery has been slow and arduous...........placed on reserve PUP
Marquuess Wilson WR..........missed 9 games in 2014 with a right collar bone sustained in TC...............suffered a left foot fracture late last season and missed the last five game after going to surgery..........in minicamp this year, he refractured his foot and was placed reserved PUP on September 3.

K’Waun Williams nickel back......... failed his physical due to ankle bone spurs.........and was just released
 
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Those guys are in bad shape. Man are the Bears in trouble.
What happened to Fuller? There has been no info about it any where.
 
Ok. I found that he has a light hamstring pull but still participated in practice today on a limited basis. Must be a precautionary measure. and it must not be too serious if he was allowed to practice at all.
 
JamTex said:
Ok. I found that he has a light hamstring pull but still participated in practice today on a limited basis. Must be a precautionary measure. and it must not be too serious if he was allowed to practice at all.
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Although there is not a true definition of "limited practice," my experience has been that the term is utilized if a player is taking part in team drills during practice, but can't be contacted...............usually unmistakably identified by wearing a red jersey.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Although there is not a true definition of "limited practice," my experience has been that the term is utilized if a player is taking part in team drills during practice, but can't be contacted...............usually unmistakably identified by wearing a red jersey.
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Must be precautionary if he's even allowed to do drills.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Although there is not a true definition of "limited practice," my experience has been that the term is utilized if a player is taking part in team drills during practice, but can't be contacted...............usually unmistakably identified by wearing a red jersey.
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What does it say about his hamstring injury if he is able to participate in team drills?
A hamstring injury just bothers me even if he's allowed to participate.
 
JamTex said:
What does it say about his hamstring injury if he is able to participate in team drills?
A hamstring injury just bothers me even if he's allowed to participate.
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With a hamstring injury, you would used the term "precautionary" usually when the player does not participate. If he has told them that he has had a feeling of tightening of his hamstring, they may restrict him to going through the motions relatively slowly with his coverage partner (much like a dance), mostly in a straight line and without sudden acceleration or sudden change of direction.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
With a hamstring injury, you would used the term "precautionary" usually when the player does not participate. If he has told them that he has had a feeling of tightening of his hamstring, they may restrict him to going through the motions relatively slowly with his coverage partner (much like a dance), mostly in a straight line and without sudden acceleration or sudden change of direction.
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OK. That's good information. So it may be to keep him from sustaining an injury from a possible feeling of tightness? Could tightness indicate the possibility of a problem? Or could it be from not properly stretching out and warming up?
 
This morning's practice is open to the media, the afternoon will not be. During the morning session, JJ Watt and Derrick Newton practiced (level to be reported after the 2nd session). Brown did not. And Fuller, for what it's worth, did very little in the open session.
 
As I have written before, there is no doubt in my mind that injuries, especially in the preseason (including OTAs and minicamps) but carrying though the regular season, have been a result of not enough time given to the players to be in contact with coaches for teaching purposes in the classroom and on the field, to build up strength, to increase coordination, and to get incrementally accustomed to increasing playing speed and contact in necessary preparation for what waits for them in real game, full-out, violent competition. The players and their NFLPA wanted less of their time to controlled and the regimens to be less strenuous. They got what they wanted. Here is a relevant recent article:

Why hamstring injuries are so common in NFL players, during preseason training

  • More than 15 years ago, the Patriots wanted to reduce hamstring injuries. What resulted was a program so effective the team considered it a competitive advantage in the NFL.
Ian McMahan
Wednesday August 17th, 2016


For those that spend Sundays watching NFL football, injuries seem a virtual certainty, part of the price that comes with playing a sport defined by collisions. While that’s largely true—football holds the distinction of being the sport with the highest rate of injury—less than 30% of the knee or leg injuries are created by highlight-reel hits and collisions. This means that in the ultimate contact sport, injuries often result from the athletic moves common to other sports—quick cuts, accelerations and full-speed sprints.

And no injury may be more indicative of the significance of non-contact injuries than a strain or “pull” of one of the three hamstring muscles in the back of the thigh.

Though some may consider it a benign injury when compared to the more graphic head and knee injuries in football, hamstring strains keep many of the NFL’s biggest names on the sideline. In fact, Ezekiel Elliott, Vincent Jackson, Alshon Jeffery and Matt Forte are just a few of the NFL players to be laid low by hamstring injuries in the early preseason.

“A number of NFL coaches don’t take muscle injuries seriously,” says Dr. Marcus Elliott, director of P3 Applied Sports Science and former physiologist and muscle injury specialist to the New England Patriots. It’s Elliott’s belief that this is one of the underlying factors in why the injury continues to plague NFL teams.

The reason for many of those non-contact hamstring injuries may actually lie in the oft-ignored offseason and preseason. Preseason games don’t count but the injuries sustained during that time do—what happens in the preseason definitely doesn’t stay in the preseason. Hamstring problems that occur during training camp—and Elliott’s 10-year analysis of NFL hamstring injuries indicates that over 50% of hamstring injuries are during the preseason—often recur or lead to other injuries during the regular season.

Part of the problem may be that, despite complaints that the NFL preseason is too long, preparation for the season may be inadequate.

“Training in professional sports is often on the soft side, since strength and conditioning professionals don’t want athletes to get injured during intensive training,” Elliott says. “But the rigors of football are so high that if training camp doesn’t prepare athletes for high force, high stress movements, then players will be vulnerable to injury.”

It’s something that Elliott terms defensive medicine, a scenario in which teams fall short of the mark in fear that the kind of intense conditioning needed to prepare players for the stresses of football will injure players.

“When a player gets injured in a game, that’s seen as bad luck, but if a player gets hurt in a strength and conditioning setting that someone’s job,” Elliott says.

Dr. Tim Hewett, director of biomechanics at the Mayo Clinic and a long time advisor to Ohio State football, speculates that while NFL players are at the top 1% of skill and athleticism, small deficits in critical areas can lead to injury.

“The act of repeatedly practicing a sport creates asymmetry,” says Hewett. “With the amount of time professional athletes have spent focusing on their skill, I see as much asymmetry in them as I do anywhere else.”

Hewett maintains that the NFL can learn from research in other sports, like soccer or rugby. “There is the belief among many in the NFL that their sports is different, but since most of the injuries in football are non-contact, sports medicine and injury research from other team sports can be applied to football.”

From a team perspective, understanding how the intensity and length of the offseason and preseason preparatory times is critical for injury prevention. The paradox of the preseason is that longer and harder preseasons, provided that they progressively ramp up to full intensity, may actually result in a lower number of injuries during the season. Many of the injuries that are experienced during the preseason can be blamed on a relative lack of conditioning and strength.

“While you may not see as many injuries initially with a less physically strenuous training camp, a hamstring or soft tissue injury will rear its head at some point during the long season if the player is not conditioned properly,” says Sam Bell, athletic trainer and physical therapist for the Baltimore Ravens.

Elliott indicates that many teams have a lot of room to improve injury prevention, especially for hamstring injuries.

If teams implement reasonably smart hamstring injury prevention programs, these injuries can largely be prevented,” he says. “It’s important to realize that injuries aren’t simply bad luck—you can affect these things and prevent injury.”

In 1999 and 2000, hired by the New England Patriots because the owner of the team was tired of seeing his players go down with hamstring injuries, Elliott implemented a program aimed at applying then current injury research to hamstring injuries in the NFL. What resulted was a program so effective the Patriots considered it a competitive advantage over the rest of the league.

But Elliott, a Harvard trained physician and sports scientist, stresses the content of the program wasn’t the part that was revolutionary. The Patriots, instead of simply treating hamstring injuries when they occurred, actually tried to prevent the problem.

Initially intended as a research project, Elliott and the Patriots’ sports medicine staff began the program by individually assessing the team at the end of the season to identify potential weaknesses and imbalances. These factors included hamstring muscle strength, muscle coordination, pelvic alignment while sprinting, and running technique. Players were then given a position-specific program that corrected any observed deficiencies, even addressing sprinting technique. The results were significant: prior to implementing the program, the Patriots had 22 players suffer hamstring injuries, but after the program was implemented that number dropped to three and then two the following season.

Although the science supporting prevention programs is well established—results often show huge reductions in the risk of muscle and knee injuries—health professionals like Elliott and Hewett have had difficulty convincing NFL teams that spending time on addressing the risk factors that predispose athletes to injury is worthwhile.

Hewett hypothesizes that part of that problem may be time as the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement limits the amount of offseason time that players can spend with team trainers, physical therapists and strength coaches. “Less time with the professionals that keep them healthy likely means more injury,” say Hewett.

Preventing hamstring injuries may be easier than the NFL injury report would indicate. It all comes down to implementing injury prevention programs that may be seen as too expensive or too time-intensive in a sport where resources aren’t always directed towards prevention.

“Hamstring injuries are the low-lying fruit of sports medicine,” says Elliot. “Preventing them doesn’t require high-tech programs.”

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Newton, and now Fuller, has been hit by the hamstring "bug." What this article does not mention is that recurrence rates of hamstring injuries have been reported in studies to be close to 2 out of 3 athletes. It is extremely important that these players be carefully treated and monitored. The first month after return to play is the highest risk time for recurrence,, although the risk remains elevated for at least 12 months. Also despite a large body of medical literature has looked into these injuries, there has been no significant reduction in these rates. As a rule, recurrences will cost the player much more lost playing time than that lost from the primary injury. That should make it clear why prevention in the first place is so extremely important, something that has been made more difficult by the CBA practice rules dictated for the offseason, preseason and regular season.
 
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Man I wanted to use fuller in my flex this weekend
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Fuller practiced today and is still on the card for Sunday. He experienced tightness in his hamstring so yesterday he only worked out during team drills. Today again, he was limited to team drills. Tomorrow, he is expected to be a full participant in practice.
 
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Bears report that Kevin White (hamstring) Kyle Fuller Kyle Long were all Limited today.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
As I have written before, there is no doubt in my mind that injuries, especially in the preseason (including OTAs and minicamps) but carrying though the regular season, have been a result of not enough time given to the players to be in contact with coaches for teaching purposes in the classroom and on the field, to build up strength, to increase coordination, and to get incrementally accustomed to increasing playing speed and contact in necessary preparation for what waits for them in real game, full-out, violent competition. The players and their NFLPA wanted less of their time to controlled and the regimens to be less strenuous. They got what they wanted. Here is a relevant recent article:

Why hamstring injuries are so common in NFL players, during preseason training

  • More than 15 years ago, the Patriots wanted to reduce hamstring injuries. What resulted was a program so effective the team considered it a competitive advantage in the NFL.
Ian McMahan
Wednesday August 17th, 2016


For those that spend Sundays watching NFL football, injuries seem a virtual certainty, part of the price that comes with playing a sport defined by collisions. While that’s largely true—football holds the distinction of being the sport with the highest rate of injury—less than 30% of the knee or leg injuries are created by highlight-reel hits and collisions. This means that in the ultimate contact sport, injuries often result from the athletic moves common to other sports—quick cuts, accelerations and full-speed sprints.

And no injury may be more indicative of the significance of non-contact injuries than a strain or “pull” of one of the three hamstring muscles in the back of the thigh.

Though some may consider it a benign injury when compared to the more graphic head and knee injuries in football, hamstring strains keep many of the NFL’s biggest names on the sideline. In fact, Ezekiel Elliott, Vincent Jackson, Alshon Jeffery and Matt Forte are just a few of the NFL players to be laid low by hamstring injuries in the early preseason.

“A number of NFL coaches don’t take muscle injuries seriously,” says Dr. Marcus Elliott, director of P3 Applied Sports Science and former physiologist and muscle injury specialist to the New England Patriots. It’s Elliott’s belief that this is one of the underlying factors in why the injury continues to plague NFL teams.

The reason for many of those non-contact hamstring injuries may actually lie in the oft-ignored offseason and preseason. Preseason games don’t count but the injuries sustained during that time do—what happens in the preseason definitely doesn’t stay in the preseason. Hamstring problems that occur during training camp—and Elliott’s 10-year analysis of NFL hamstring injuries indicates that over 50% of hamstring injuries are during the preseason—often recur or lead to other injuries during the regular season.

Part of the problem may be that, despite complaints that the NFL preseason is too long, preparation for the season may be inadequate.

“Training in professional sports is often on the soft side, since strength and conditioning professionals don’t want athletes to get injured during intensive training,” Elliott says. “But the rigors of football are so high that if training camp doesn’t prepare athletes for high force, high stress movements, then players will be vulnerable to injury.”

It’s something that Elliott terms defensive medicine, a scenario in which teams fall short of the mark in fear that the kind of intense conditioning needed to prepare players for the stresses of football will injure players.

“When a player gets injured in a game, that’s seen as bad luck, but if a player gets hurt in a strength and conditioning setting that someone’s job,” Elliott says.

Dr. Tim Hewett, director of biomechanics at the Mayo Clinic and a long time advisor to Ohio State football, speculates that while NFL players are at the top 1% of skill and athleticism, small deficits in critical areas can lead to injury.

“The act of repeatedly practicing a sport creates asymmetry,” says Hewett. “With the amount of time professional athletes have spent focusing on their skill, I see as much asymmetry in them as I do anywhere else.”

Hewett maintains that the NFL can learn from research in other sports, like soccer or rugby. “There is the belief among many in the NFL that their sports is different, but since most of the injuries in football are non-contact, sports medicine and injury research from other team sports can be applied to football.”

From a team perspective, understanding how the intensity and length of the offseason and preseason preparatory times is critical for injury prevention. The paradox of the preseason is that longer and harder preseasons, provided that they progressively ramp up to full intensity, may actually result in a lower number of injuries during the season. Many of the injuries that are experienced during the preseason can be blamed on a relative lack of conditioning and strength.

“While you may not see as many injuries initially with a less physically strenuous training camp, a hamstring or soft tissue injury will rear its head at some point during the long season if the player is not conditioned properly,” says Sam Bell, athletic trainer and physical therapist for the Baltimore Ravens.

Elliott indicates that many teams have a lot of room to improve injury prevention, especially for hamstring injuries.

If teams implement reasonably smart hamstring injury prevention programs, these injuries can largely be prevented,” he says. “It’s important to realize that injuries aren’t simply bad luck—you can affect these things and prevent injury.”

In 1999 and 2000, hired by the New England Patriots because the owner of the team was tired of seeing his players go down with hamstring injuries, Elliott implemented a program aimed at applying then current injury research to hamstring injuries in the NFL. What resulted was a program so effective the Patriots considered it a competitive advantage over the rest of the league.

But Elliott, a Harvard trained physician and sports scientist, stresses the content of the program wasn’t the part that was revolutionary. The Patriots, instead of simply treating hamstring injuries when they occurred, actually tried to prevent the problem.

Initially intended as a research project, Elliott and the Patriots’ sports medicine staff began the program by individually assessing the team at the end of the season to identify potential weaknesses and imbalances. These factors included hamstring muscle strength, muscle coordination, pelvic alignment while sprinting, and running technique. Players were then given a position-specific program that corrected any observed deficiencies, even addressing sprinting technique. The results were significant: prior to implementing the program, the Patriots had 22 players suffer hamstring injuries, but after the program was implemented that number dropped to three and then two the following season.

Although the science supporting prevention programs is well established—results often show huge reductions in the risk of muscle and knee injuries—health professionals like Elliott and Hewett have had difficulty convincing NFL teams that spending time on addressing the risk factors that predispose athletes to injury is worthwhile.

Hewett hypothesizes that part of that problem may be time as the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement limits the amount of offseason time that players can spend with team trainers, physical therapists and strength coaches. “Less time with the professionals that keep them healthy likely means more injury,” say Hewett.

Preventing hamstring injuries may be easier than the NFL injury report would indicate. It all comes down to implementing injury prevention programs that may be seen as too expensive or too time-intensive in a sport where resources aren’t always directed towards prevention.

“Hamstring injuries are the low-lying fruit of sports medicine,” says Elliot. “Preventing them doesn’t require high-tech programs.”

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Newton, and now Fuller, has been hit by the hamstring "bug." What this article does not mention is that recurrence rates of hamstring injuries have been reported in studies to be close to 2 out of 3 athletes. It is extremely important that these players be carefully treated and monitored. The first month after return to play is the highest risk time for recurrence,, although the risk remains elevated for at least 12 months. Also despite a large body of medical literature has looked into these injuries, there has been no significant reduction in these rates. As a rule, recurrences will cost the player much more lost playing time than that lost from the primary injury. That should make it clear why prevention in the first place is so extremely important, something that has been made more difficult by the CBA practice rules dictated for the offseason, preseason and regular season.
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99% of people will pass over this because of the length.

I've always believed in being proactive instead of reactive when it comes to injury. This information just reinforces that.

This was fantastic. Thank you, Doc.
 
HOUSTON TEXANS

Thursday (9/8/16)

DID NOT PARTICIPATE

T Duane Brown Knee

LIMITED PARTICIPATION
WR Will Fuller Hamstring (concerning, going from "limited" to a Friday "walkthrough" to a real game.)
DE J.J. Watt Back

FULL PARTICIPATION
ILB Akeem Dent Concussion (cleared)
T Derek Newton Hamstring

CHICAGO BEARS

Thursday (9/8/16)

LIMITED PARTICIPATION
DB Deon Bush Hamstring
DB Bryce Callahan Groin
DB Kyle Fuller Knee
FB Paul Lasike Wrist
OL Kyle Long Shoulder
WR Deonte Thompson Knee/Ankle
DL Cornelius Washington Ankle/Knee
WR Kevin White Hamstring (new......occurred yesterday.......lost his entire rookie 2015 season [rookie 1st round #7 pick] after requiring surgery for a left tibial stress fracture..........of interest, last year at the beginning of May OTAs, he complained of left leg pain with noticed a small bump on the from of his leg.........in June, while limping, he was told it was "shin splints" and to rest for 6 weeks.........nothing changed and he was finally diagnosed with the stress fracture and taken to surgery August 23.......his rehab was complicated and he never made it back until this year)
 
HOUSTON TEXANS

Friday, Sept. 9 (Game Status)

DID NOT PARTICIPATE
T Duane Brown (Out) Knee

FULL PARTICIPATION [NOTE: except for Brown, there is no "Status" category listed for these Texans]
ILB Akeem Dent Concussion
WR Will Fuller Hamstring
T Derek Newton Hamstring
DE J.J. Watt Back

CHICAGO BEARS

Friday, Sept. 9 (Game Status)

LIMITED PARTICIPATION
WR Josh Bellamy (Questionable) Shoulder
DB Deon Bush (Questionable) Hamstring
DB Bryce Callahan (Questionable) Groin
DB Kyle Fuller (Questionable) Knee
FB Paul Lasike (Questionable) Wrist
OL Kyle Long (Questionable) Shoulder
WR Deonte Thompson (Questionable) Knee/Ankle
DL Cornelius Washington (Questionable) Ankle/Knee
WR Kevin White (Questionable) Hamstring

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Since the "Status" rules have changed this year, I will begin a separate thread in this forum since it is pertinent to the Texans as well as all the other teams, and because it is worth discussing the details and their implications as a separate topic.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
As I have written before, there is no doubt in my mind that injuries, especially in the preseason (including OTAs and minicamps) but carrying though the regular season, have been a result of not enough time given to the players to be in contact with coaches for teaching purposes in the classroom and on the field, to build up strength, to increase coordination, and to get incrementally accustomed to increasing playing speed and contact in necessary preparation for what waits for them in real game, full-out, violent competition. The players and their NFLPA wanted less of their time to controlled and the regimens to be less strenuous. They got what they wanted. Here is a relevant recent article:

Why hamstring injuries are so common in NFL players, during preseason training

  • More than 15 years ago, the Patriots wanted to reduce hamstring injuries. What resulted was a program so effective the team considered it a competitive advantage in the NFL.
Ian McMahan
Wednesday August 17th, 2016
In 1999 and 2000, hired by the New England Patriots because the owner of the team was tired of seeing his players go down with hamstring injuries, Elliott implemented a program aimed at applying then current injury research to hamstring injuries in the NFL. What resulted was a program so effective the Patriots considered it a competitive advantage over the rest of the league.

But Elliott, a Harvard trained physician and sports scientist, stresses the content of the program wasn’t the part that was revolutionary. The Patriots, instead of simply treating hamstring injuries when they occurred, actually tried to prevent the problem.

Initially intended as a research project, Elliott and the Patriots’ sports medicine staff began the program by individually assessing the team at the end of the season to identify potential weaknesses and imbalances. These factors included hamstring muscle strength, muscle coordination, pelvic alignment while sprinting, and running technique. Players were then given a position-specific program that corrected any observed deficiencies, even addressing sprinting technique. The results were significant: prior to implementing the program, the Patriots had 22 players suffer hamstring injuries, but after the program was implemented that number dropped to three and then two the following season.

“Hamstring injuries are the low-lying fruit of sports medicine,” says Elliot. “Preventing them doesn’t require high-tech programs.”
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The bolded summary of results only addresses three successive seasons. Has that success rate been sustained to the present day? And since O'Brien was there during the period the Pats had this training program in effect, any idea if he brought that training philosophy to the Texans? If so, why so many soft-tissue injuries for our guys? And if didn't, why not?
 
Player "Status" is still not listed for the Houston Texans on the Friday Injury Report. Nor is it listed on NFL.com.

And now this year, for the first time, there is a disclaimer that has strangely shown up immediately following all of the Houston Texans Injury Reports.:
"Content on HoustonTexans.com does not necessarily represent the views of the Houston Texans front office staff, coaches or executives."
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Then whose "views" are the Injury Reports based upon? Toro?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Player "Status" is still not listed for the Houston Texans on the Friday Injury Report. Nor is it listed on NFL.com.

And now this year, for the first time, there is a disclaimer that has strangely shown up immediately following all of the Houston Texans Injury Reports.:


Then whose "views" are the Injury Reports based upon? Toro?
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Haha that's pretty good...
 
ObsiWan said:
Question(s):
The bolded summary of results only addresses three successive seasons. Has that success rate been sustained to the present day? And since O'Brien was there during the period the Pats had this training program in effect, any idea if he brought that training philosophy to the Texans? If so, why so many soft-tissue injuries for our guys? And if didn't, why not?
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Obviously this article does not carry information forward. But having watch the NFL injuries throughout this OTAs/minicamps/preseason, it is obvious that the Patriots have had relatively low numbers of identified hamstring injuries. They are not immune to the injury as both Gronkowski and one of their OTs are listed questionable for such injuries for their upcoming game. Team training regimens are usually organized and implemented by the medical and training staffs........not the coach (remember, O'Brien keeps reminding us that he is not a doctor and relies on his medical staff for injury information). Hamstring injuries have many factors affecting their occurrences, some can be controlled, others cannot. It's the awareness of the principles that give players the best chance of avoiding the injury...........and it's up to the different staffs to disseminated the relevant information and make sure they are properly assimilated. No matter what, though, nothing can truly counteract the the CBA's practice rules which by their very nature "set up" the player for increased injury risk.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Obviously this article does not carry information forward. But having watch the NFL injuries throughout this OTAs/minicamps/preseason, it is obvious that the Patriots have had relatively low numbers of identified hamstring injuries. They are not immune to the injury as both Gronkowski and one of their OTs are listed questionable for such injuries for their upcoming game. Team training regimens are usually organize and implemented by the medical and training staffs........not the coach (remember, O'Brien keeps reminding us that he is not a doctor and relies on his medical staff for injury information). Hamstring injuries have many factors affecting their occurrences, some can be controlled, others cannot. It's the awareness of the principles that give players the best chance of avoiding the injury...........and it's up to the different staffs to disseminated the relevant information and make sure they are properly assimilated. No matter what, though, nothing can truly counteract the the CBA's practice rules which by their very nature "set up" the play for increased injury risk.
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Thanks for the feedback. I was just hoping that O'Brien tried to bring that skillset from the Pats.
And yes, the CBA should have been more careful about what they asked for.
 
Kyle Long also expected to play


*edit* per Adam Schefter Long is playing with a torn labrum in his left shoulder. Doc can you tell us just how bad an idea that is for an OL?!
 
TheRealJoker said:
Kyle Long also expected to play


*edit* per Adam Schefter Long is playing with a torn labrum in his left shoulder. Doc can you tell us just how bad an idea that is for an OL?!
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If you look at my evaluation of Long on the first page of this thread, you'll note that I identified his injury as a torn labrum and expected that he would play with a large brace trying to avoid surgery before the end of the season. The brace can "help" him trying to avoid further damage, and allow him to play. Pain tolerance will be a big factor, and he will undoubtedly be playing "under the influence." But I would still expect there to be a compromise of what he can normally do, especially when he will be limited how far he will be able to raise his left arm.
 
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