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I heard this about two hours ago on SiriusXM NFL radio.

An emotional scene unfolded at Vikings practice on Tuesday when quarterback Teddy Bridgewaterwent down with a non-contact injury that ended practice after just 30 minutes. According to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, he was grabbing his left knee as teammates prayed around him.

Bridgewater was taken off the field in an ambulance, igniting the team's worst possible fears. Head coach Mike Zimmer will address reporters at the team's Winter Park facility around 5 p.m. ET
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Hopefully he is alright.

Boy, I'll say that the Packers get more luck than any other team it seems like. Their division stays weak.
 
Tough break for the Vikings. They should trade for Mike Glennon. He's in a contract year and would be auditioning to be a starter for another team next season. The Bucs right now are talking about keeping 3 QBs however should be willing to trade Glennon. The guy's been a model citizen here and should be given the chance.
 
Double Barrel said:
Man, what a bummer. A non-contact injury? That's not a good sign at all.
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Sucks for him, but I do remember reading some draft scout reports questioning if his lower body would be able to hold up in the NFL..Guess they were right. We dodged a bullet there.. Could you imagine if he did make it to our second pick...picked right after Clowney..with the knee issues he's had. If he was wearing a Texans jersey today.. that would suck
 
So, dislocated knee and complete ACL tear.
Teddy Bridgewater suffered a non-contact injury today at practice. The injury was quickly identified as a dislocated knee. The injury was stabilized, and he was transported to a nearby hospital for treatment and evaluation. After undergoing an MRI, it was determined that Teddy suffered a complete tear to his ACL and other structural damage. Fortunately, there appears to be no nerve or arterial damage. Surgical repair will be scheduled within the next few days. Although the recovery time will be significant, we expect Teddy to make a full recovery. I would like to thank all of the medical professionals and our athletic training staff for all of their help today. Teddy has already displayed the attitude needed to overcome this injury and attack his rehab.
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Vikings Statement on Teddy Bridgewater's Injury
 
Can a mod please merge all the posts from random thought of the day with this thread so we can have it somewhat concise? Also please get Doc back here whatever it takes
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Sure would be nice to have a doctor around that stays on top of all this stuff and could share some insight in times like this.
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I came here to post this exact thing. I'm a frequent lurker from afar in SoCal, but a lurker nonetheless. While I can't return to Houston to cheer in person at this point in my life, I sure as hell have Texan blood and enjoyed CNDs commentary even when he was "just telling me the bad news".

In an effort to stay on track...

Does anyone know of another player this type of injury has happened too?
 
When I was driving home from work, they said Teddy had to be sedated asap, because he was in so much pain.. tough injury.. here's to a full recovery. I wonder if Minnesota has any extra quality Olineman that we could trade Weeden for
 
Carr Bombed said:
When I was driving home from work, they said Teddy had to be sedated asap, because he was in so much pain.. tough injury.. here's to a full recovery. I wonder if Minnesota has any extra quality Olineman that we could trade Weeden for
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Three tackles worth a damn. Matt Khalil, TJ Cummings, and Andre Smith.

Don't think they want to part with the first two, but the third for the right price ...
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
From the description I've heard, I'd be very surprised if this didn't turn out to be at least an ACL
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Great to see you here bud!!

So with a complete tear of the ACL and dislocated knee without nerve damaged, as being reported in some places, what is long term prognosis? Does it severely change his skill set?
 
TexanPulse said:
I came here to post this exact thing. I'm a frequent lurker from afar in SoCal, but a lurker nonetheless. While I can't return to Houston to cheer in person at this point in my life, I sure as hell have Texan blood and enjoyed CNDs commentary even when he was "just telling me the bad news".

In an effort to stay on track...

Does anyone know of another player this type of injury has happened too?
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Hate to bring this up, but Jaylon Smith was a dislocated knee injury.

Full extent of his injury will probably not be known for at least another day. Usually these type of injuries are multiple ligament injuries.........the ACL not uncommonly accompanied by an MCL and/or LCL. What you always worry about in these injuries are nerve damage (especially to the peroneal nerve which causes foot drop) or vascular damage that compromises circulation. If you remember, all initial reports of Jaylon Smith's injury insisted that he had no nerve or vascular injuries. Later, he was found to indeed have suffered significant nerve damage, which to this day has shown no significant improvement. I would wait at least another week to see what will be reported as the final extent of his injuries.
 
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Didn't one of the running backs from U of Miami or was it Ohio State have an injury like this a while back? The dudes leg just doubled in two. And didn't he go on to play in NFL?

Point being, what is the probability he resumes his career and has a good one? Obviously it should be longer than a RB.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Hate to bring this up, but Jaylon Smith was a dislocated knee injury.

Full extent of his injury will probably not be known for another day. Usually these type of injuries are multiple ligament injuries.........the ACL not uncommonly accompanied by an MCL and/or LCL. What you always worry about in these injuries are nerve damage (especially to the peroneal nerve which causes foot drop) or vascular damage that compromises circulation. If you remember, all initial reports of Jaylon Smith's injury insisted that he had no nerve or vascular injuries. Later, he was found to indeed have suffered significant nerve damage, which to this day has shown no significant improvement. I would wait at least another week to see what will be reported as the final extent of his injuries.
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It's unreal to think an awkward step can do so much damage .
 
Pollardized said:
Great to see you here bud!!

So with a complete tear of the ACL and dislocated knee without nerve damaged, as being reported in some places, what is long term prognosis? Does it severely change his skill set?
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See my post above. Have to wait to get all info before really giving a relatively accurate prognosis. If only an ACL with one other collateral ligament , as a QB, can expect to return with good prognosis.
 
austins23 said:
Didn't one of the running backs from U of Miami or was it Ohio State have an injury like this a while back? The dudes leg just doubled in two. And didn't he go on to play in NFL?

Point being, what is the probability he resumes his career and has a good one? Obviously it should be longer than a RB.
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Your'e probably thinking of Willis McGahee of the Hurricanes.

On the other hand, Marcus Lattimore sustained that injury, but could not make it in the NFL due to his injuries...........retired at 23.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Hate to bring this up, but Jaylon Smith was a dislocated knee injury.

Full extent of his injury will probably not be known for another day. Usually these type of injuries are multiple ligament injuries.........the ACL not uncommonly accompanied by an MCL and/or LCL. What you always worry about in these injuries are nerve damage (especially to the peroneal nerve which causes foot drop) or vascular damage that compromises circulation. If you remember, all initial reports of Jaylon Smith's injury insisted that he had no nerve or vascular injuries. Later, he was found to indeed have suffered significant nerve damage, which to this day has shown no significant improvement. I would wait at least another week to see what will be reported as the final extent of his injuries.
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Thanks for the quick update and memory jogger in Jaylon Smith Doc. Ugh, saying that was significant at the time is somewhat of an understatement. Going back to my shadows now. Thanks and worth a $30 copay ;)
 
Double Barrel said:
Man, what a bummer. A non-contact injury? That's not a good sign at all.
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Honoring Earl 34 said:
It's unreal to think an awkward step can do so much damage .
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So he's just walking around the practice field, them WHAMM!!!! His knee separates from his leg???

WTF? Had no idea that could happen.

Surely he suffered an earlier injury that he should have had checked out. A previously undiagnosed condition, he probably popped a couple of Tylenol in the morning, rubbed his knee, figured it would go away...

Damn... I'm scared to walk to the bathroom now.
 
thunderkyss said:
So he's just walking around the practice field, them WHAMM!!!! His knee separates from his leg???

WTF? Had no idea that could happen.

Surely he suffered an earlier injury that he should have had checked out. A previously undiagnosed condition, he probably popped a couple of Tylenol in the morning, rubbed his knee, figured it would go away...

Damn... I'm scared to walk to the bathroom now.
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I don't think it happened while simply strolling the facilities. Sounds like they were running something at practice and during so a bomb went off in his knee, and I'd imagine following him planting/cutting in stride somehow. Remember Wes Welker against us in 2009? Makes a catch, turns and takes a couple steps, cuts, and just collapses down from no contact but severe injury.

I'm gonna assume your toilet time is safe, tk.
 
I feel really bad for the kid. I think he's been unfairly criticized for learning how to be an NFL QB. Sure, he's not as flashy as Mariota or Winston. He's doesn't have gaudy numbers like Carr or Bortles, but he won 11 games in 2015.

& he looked good the other day. Like he's ready to take the next step.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Sucks for him, but I do remember reading some draft scout reports questioning if his lower body would be able to hold up in the NFL..Guess they were right. We dodged a bullet there.. Could you imagine if he did make it to our second pick...picked right after Clowney..with the knee issues he's had. If he was wearing a Texans jersey today.. that would suck
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Does skinny joints influence non contact dislocations??
 
What's the recovery time on a dislocated knee?

My wife had one a year or two back and she's still paranoid about contact around her knee area.

That was a contact injury though, wrestling with our oldest boy.
 
thunderkyss said:
So he's just walking around the practice field, them WHAMM!!!! His knee separates from his leg???

WTF? Had no idea that could happen.

Surely he suffered an earlier injury that he should have had checked out. A previously undiagnosed condition, he probably popped a couple of Tylenol in the morning, rubbed his knee, figured it would go away...

Damn... I'm scared to walk to the bathroom now.
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Word I heard was that he was dropping back to pass - in a non-contact drill - and when he planted that back foot he went down in a heap.
 
Damn that's a tough break for Teddy. The guy looks like he handled his business and was a solid pro with his approach toward his job. Hopefully he'll make a full recovery and it doesn't affect him for the rest of his life.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
What's the recovery time on a dislocated knee?

My wife had one a year or two back and she's still paranoid about contact around her knee area.

That was a contact injury though, wrestling with our oldest boy.
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It all depends on what ultimate damage has occurred besides the ACL...................McL? LCL? PCL? PLC? meniscus? articular cartilage, fracture? vascular? nerve? was it an open dislocation(bone sticking out)? .............but you can count on at least a 1 year rehab in the lesser severe cases. Again, the fact that he is a QB and not, for example a WR or RB, will play in his favor.

It must be understood that this type of injury is a very serious one. Studies that have included all types of knee dislocation types (from most serious to lesser) have demonstrated that ~40 % will return to normal/near normal, while ~40% will have noticeable debility, and ~20% serious debility. A review of elite athletes with knee dislocations published in The American Journal of Sports Medicine in 2010 demonstrated a 79% return to sport, with only 33% of athletes returning to the same pre-injury competitive level.

Stiffness and pain are the most common problems all of these athletes have to deal with. It is not uncommon that scar tissue becomes so limiting in their rehab that at ~3-6 months they will be taken back to surgery to have their knee manipulated under anesthesia in order to break up the scar tissue.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It all depends on what ultimate damage has occurred besides the ACL...................McL? LCL? PCL? PLC? meniscus? articular cartilage, fracture? vascular? nerve? was it an open dislocation(bone sticking out)? .............but you can count on at least a 1 year rehab in the lesser severe cases. Again, the fact that he is a QB and not, for example a WR or RB, will play in his favor.

It must be understood that this type of injury is a very serious one. Studies that have included all types of knee dislocation types (from most serious to lesser) have demonstrated that ~40 % will return to normal/near normal, while ~40% will have noticeable debility, and ~20% serious debility. A review of elite athletes with knee dislocations published in The American Journal of Sports Medicine in 2010 demonstrated a 79% return to sport, with only 33% of athletes returning to the same pre-injury competitive level.

Stiffness and pain are the most common problems all of these athletes have to deal with. It is not uncommon that scar tissue becomes so limiting in their rehab that at ~3-6 months they will be taken back to surgery to have their knee manipulated under anesthesia in order to break up the scar tissue.
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It was reported that it was his left knee , does that help or hinder ?
 
ObsiWan said:
Word I heard was that he was dropping back to pass - in a non-contact drill - and when he planted that back foot he went down in a heap.
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Honoring Earl 34 said:
It was reported that it was his left knee , does that help or hinder ?
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These are contradictory reports. Bridgewater throws right-handed. That would make his right foot his plant foot. As far as which knee might be the worse side for him to have injured. The most common knee dislocation is an anterior dislocation (lower leg moves forward in relationship to the thigh). This would most likely occur with a push off used by a right-handed QB to quickly drop back rather than a plant of the back foot. This could limit his ability to efficiently play behind center, and force him to preferentially play in the shotgun
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
These are contradictory reports. Bridgewater throws right-handed. That would make his right foot his plant foot. As far as which knee might be the worse side for him to have injured. The most common knee dislocation is an anterior dislocation (lower leg moves forward in relationship to the thigh). This would most likely occur with a push off used by a right-handed QB to quickly drop back rather than a plant of the back foot. This could limit his ability to efficiently play behind center, and force him to preferentially play in the shotgun
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Just passing on what I heard. Can't vouch for the accuracy of the description.
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EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Minnesota Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewatersuffered a dislocated knee and a torn ACL when he went down during a noncontact drill at practice Tuesday, ending his 2016 season.

"Teddy suffered a complete tear to his ACL and other structural damage," the team said in a statement Tuesday evening after Bridgewater underwent an MRI. "Fortunately, there appears to be no nerve or arterial damage."

Bridgewater dropped back to pass during a drill, planted his foot and immediately went down. Trainers rushed to his side and began inflating an aircast, and the quarterback appeared to be holding his left leg.
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So it was the left knee.
 
ObsiWan said:
Just passing on what I heard. Can't vouch for the accuracy of the description.
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So it was the left knee.
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When I first read your original post, I mistakenly took it to imply you were saying his plant foot side dislocated. When all you were saying is that the foot was planted when it happened. I created my own confusion in that the reports were putting out that his left leg was the side he grabbed and the side the AirCast was placed. :handshake:
 
Carr Bombed said:
Sucks for him, but I do remember reading some draft scout reports questioning if his lower body would be able to hold up in the NFL..Guess they were right. We dodged a bullet there.. Could you imagine if he did make it to our second pick...picked right after Clowney..with the knee issues he's had. If he was wearing a Texans jersey today.. that would suck
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Yep, I remember the reports about concerns regarding his slight frame, as well. There were also questions about his knees at that time, as well as hand size.

Quick Google search led me to this Vikings fan rant, which is funny but kinda' sad in hindsight: Teddy Bridgewater Has Skinny Knees, and Player Scouting Is Stupid
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Just as an FYI, Bridgewater just brought this year's ACL injury count already to 21!
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Do you know if this coincides with an increase in pallet grass systems being installed on practice surfaces?




:kitten:


FYI, NRG's non-pallet system has already claimed one ACL (Mike Jenkins, 3rd preseason game)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
When I first read your original post, I mistakenly took it to imply you were saying his plant foot side dislocated. When all you were saying is that the foot was planted when it happened. I created my own confusion in that the reports were putting out that his left leg was the side he grabbed and the side the AirCast was placed. :handshake:
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Hey, no harm, no foul.
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And to be straight about it, that's what I thought they meant when I originally heard the description on the tele. So we both made that mistake.
 
No surprise, but Bridgewater has officially been placed on IR. Regardless of his rehab status (even if he had a impossible miraculous 3 month recovery:foottap:), he now cannot return anytime during the 2016 season.
 
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