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2016 Combine Thread

DB group 2. Zack Sanchez and Tavon Young looked good. Eric Murray was solid. Jalen Ramsey was a lot more fluid than expected. He can play CB, but I still think his skill set is better suited at Safety. He's a prototype deep safety.

For the Safeties, Miles Killebrew and Keanu Neal looked solid in drills. Both of those guys are box types. Neal is a smooth mover for a Safety. Derrick Kindred looked good too. Jalen Mills is kind of a tweener who I like more at Safety. I thought he looked smooth.
 
TOP PERFORMERS

40-Yard Dash
1. Keith Marshall (RB, Georgia) - 4.31
2. Will Fuller (WR, Notre Dame) - 4.32
3. Jonathan Jones (CB, Auburn) - 4.33
4. T.J. Green (S, Clemson) - 4.34
5. Anthony Brown (CB, Purdue) - 4.35

Bench Press
1. Christian Westerman (OG, Arizona State) - 34
2a. Chris Mayes (DT, Georgia) - 33
2b. Connor McGovern (OG, Missouri) - 33
4a. Ronald Blair (DE, Appalachian State) - 32
4b. Matthew Ioannids (DT, Temple) - 32
4c. Stephane Nembot (OT, Colorado) - 32

Vertical Jump
1a. Daniel Lasco (RB, California) - 41.5
1b. Jalen Ramsey (S, Florida State) - 41.5
3a. Josh Doctson (WR, TCU) - 41.0
3b. DeAndre Elliott (CB, Colorado State) - 41.0
3c. Dadi Nicolas (OLB, Virginia Tech) - 41.0
3d. Sterling Shepard (WR, Oklahoma) - 41.0

Broad Jump
1a. Daniel Lasco (RB, California) - 135.0
1b. Jalen Ramsey (S, Florida State) - 135.0
3. Darron Lee (OLB, Ohio State) - 133.0
4a. Ricardo Louis (WR, Auburn) - 132.0
4b. Keanu Neal (S, Florida) - 132.0
4c. D.J. White (CB, Georgia Tech) - 132.0

3-Cone Drill
1. Devon Cajuste (WR, Stanford) - 6.49
2. Justin Simmons (S, Boston College) - 6.58
3. Trevor Davis (WR, California) - 6.60
4. Sean Davis (CB, Maryland) - 6.64
5. Braxton Miller (WR, Ohio State) - 6.65

Short Shuttle (20-Yard)
1. Justin Simmons (S, Boston College) - 3.85
2. Tavon Young (CB, Temple) - 3.93
3. DeAndre Elliott (CB, Colorado State) - 3.94
4. Sean Davis (CB, Maryland) - 3.97
5. Vernon Hargreaves (CB, Florida) - 3.98

Long Shuttle (60-Yard)
1a. Braxton Miller (WR, Ohio State) - 10.84
1b. Justin Simmons (S, Boston College) - 10.84
3. Daryl Worley (CB, West Virginia) - 10.87
4. Trevor Davis (WR, California) - 10.94
5. Miles Killebrew (S, Southern Utah) - 11.02


Overall Top Performers
#1 - Justin Simmons (S, Boston College)
#2 - Jalen Ramsey (S, Florida State)
#3 - Daniel Lasco (RB, California)
#4 - Braxton Miller (WR, Ohio State)
#5 - DeAndre Elliott (CB, Colorado State)
 
I went back and watched some more Cal games but this time focused on the skill guys instead of Goff.

Trevor Davis is every bit the athlete in pads that he showed at the combine. Cal just used him on the backside a lot so he was often the third or fourth progression in the passing game. He was still the second-leading receiver. He's going to rise pretty high in the draft I think. He's very smooth and could be electric in the slot.

Stephen Anderson played a lot of slot TE and could end up being a late round steal as a flex player if he continues to add weight. He has good hands.

Like I've reported numerous times this year, Kenny Lawler is just underwhelming in every way. His stats look good because of how often he is targeted, but I just don't get why he is rated so much higher than his teammates by the draftniks. His routes are okay but he drops nearly everything and doesn't do anything after the catch when he does manage to haul one in.

Beware of Lasco. He had a great junior year but he was part of a platoon with three other guys in the backfield this year, and he was the least effective of the four. I'm not sure if he regressed or if it was a coaching issue. But his athleticism at the combine does not show on his senior film.
 
Looks like a more athletic Mallett. Strong arm, not afraid to throw the ball away. Red Jersey. Doesn't see the whole field.
 


Because he sucks :headhurts:

Looks like a more athletic Mallett. Strong arm, not afraid to throw the ball away. Red Jersey. Doesn't see the whole field.

Not an exciting prospect, but not as terrible as some of you are suggesting.

NFL scouts are intrigued by his size, arm, competitive nature and maturity.

Sudfeld served missions to Uganda in high school and during his spring break last year.

Sudfeld is regarded as one of the better senior quarterback prospects.

Sudfeld had a 151.03 passer efficiency rating last season while running a fast-tempo spread attack.

He was named the Hoosiers' Most Valuable Player and finished with 11 touchdown passes in the final three games.

Draft analysts have ranked Sudfeld as a middle round to later-round draft target, praising him for his arm strength, pocket awareness and ability to see the field with his tall stature in the pocket.

Sudfeld is the Hoosiers' all-time leading passer with 7,490 yards and 58 touchdowns.

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We've been interviewing offensive linemen. Josh Garnett (G, Stanford), Jack Conklin (OT, Michigan State), Nick Vannette (TE, Ohio State).

And is there a source that lists all the team/player interviews?
 
first three have NFL arms, this confirms Cook shoulder may still be hurting him or he just doesn't have it. he should slide out of first.
 
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Here's the full list...

Paxton Lynch - 59
Jared Goff - 58
Carson Wentz - 57
Jacoby Brissett - 56
Christian Hackenberg - 56
Joel Stave - 56
Josh Woodrum - 56
Brandon Allen - 55
Trevone Boykin - 55
Cody Kessler - 55
Dak Prescott - 54
Nate Sudfeld - 54
Vernon Adams - 53
Brandon Doughty - 53
Kevin Hogan - 53
Jeff Driskel - 52
Connor Cook - 50
Cardale Jones - n/a


Past year's for reference...
Kirk Cousins - 59
Colin Kaepernick - 59
Ryan Mallett - 58
Nick Foles - 57
Mark Sanchez - 57
Tom Savage - 57
Blake Bortles - 56
Andy Dalton - 56
Jimmy Garoppolo - 56
Marcus Mariota - 56
Cam Newton - 56
Joe Flacco - 55
Russell Wilson - 55
Jameis Winston - 55


As you can see, throwing hard is not an indication of how good you are. However, the ideal benchmark is at least 55 mph. If I listed all the guys who threw below 51 you would see that Cook is not in ideal company.
 
The one thing Cardale could have done for himself ...

I like seeing Brandon Allen where he's at there, btw.
 
1. Love Spriggs, great feet and best football is ahead of him. I believe if D.Brown makes it back he will be a shell of himself.

2. Adams. Like, dont love the pick, injury prone in college usually means injury prone in pro's. Worry about his size, not a good fit in BOB's offense.

3. Westerman- like the pick, Westerman is a big strong tough guy. Immediately improves a poor run game.

4. Mitchell- Love the pick for the reasons you listed above. Hopefully he can stay healthy. Upgrades ST's which is much needed. Upgrade from Mumphrey.

5. Mayes- Know nothing about him.

5.. Blythe- Like Ferentz coached OL.

6. Love Williams, Barber not as much but he would be an upgrade over Polk.

Good job, I like the way this mock is a much needed attempt to fix the trenches.
 
Cant believe Cook is sitting at 50 mph. Combinig that with his accuracy issues and that equals ints in bunches. Do not want.
 
Did they track this back when Chad Pennington was coming out in the draft? I don't really care but after seeing these I'm kind of interested in what his was considering the reputation that he had.
 
I'm
1. Love Spriggs, great feet and best football is ahead of him. I believe if D.Brown makes it back he will be a shell of himself.

2. Adams. Like, dont love the pick, injury prone in college usually means injury prone in pro's. Worry about his size, not a good fit in BOB's offense.

3. Westerman- like the pick, Westerman is a big strong tough guy. Immediately improves a poor run game.

4. Mitchell- Love the pick for the reasons you listed above. Hopefully he can stay healthy. Upgrades ST's which is much needed. Upgrade from Mumphrey.

5. Mayes- Know nothing about him.

5.. Blythe- Like Ferentz coached OL.

6. Love Williams, Barber not as much but he would be an upgrade over Polk.

Good job, I like the way this mock is a much needed attempt to fix the trenches.

Texian Mock Draft is everywhere. How much did he pay you :barman:
 
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Texian Mock Draft is everywhere. How much did he pay you :barman:

Thanks for the LOL. I like the fact that Tex tried to fix the OL and love the Mitchell pick. Dont really like the Adams pick. If they go that type QB (Scrambling) (Doubtful) I hope they pick Prescott. He's less injury prone.
 
Thanks for the LOL. I like the fact that Tex tried to fix the OL and love the Mitchell pick. Dont really like the Adams pick. If they go that type QB (Scrambling) (Doubtful) I hope they pick Prescott. He's less injury prone.

Yeah... but... this isn't the Texian mock draft thread. This is the Combine thread.
 
Is there a year by year combine QB velocity chart? I've seen one in the past, but can't find it for the life of me this year.
 
Is there a year by year combine QB velocity chart? I've seen one in the past, but can't find it for the life of me this year.

Our Lads.com has one that goes back to 2008... google qb ball velocity
 
CollegeFootball 24/7 ‏@NFL_CFB 5m5 minutes ago


#FridayFacts: Those 2 QBs were Ryan Tannehill (2012) and J.P. Losman (2004).

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Bring him in for a look see!
Wendall Williams runs 4.19-second 40 at regional combine
March 5, 2016, 5:57 PM EST

The NFL’s regional combines are set up to give small-school players a chance to show what they can do, and one small-school player made the whole league take notice today.

Wendall Williams, a wide receiver from the University of the Cumberlands, ran an incredible 4.19-second 40-yard dash at a regional combine today. That breaks the official Scouting Combine record of 4.24 seconds, set by Chris Johnson.

Williams also recorded a 45.0-inch vertical jump, which is tied for the best jump ever recorded at the regular Scouting Combine.

Those numbers are so shocking that they sound unbelievable at first. But Williams was a track and field star who won the NAIA national championship in the long jump and was fourth in the country in both the 100 meters and 200 meters, so there’s little doubt that he’s a phenomenal athlete.

He also put up phenomenal numbers on the football field: He was an NAIA All-American while averaging 30.5 yards per catch (with eight touchdowns), 32.4 yards per kickoff return (with three touchdowns), 23.5 yards per punt return (with one touchdown) and 17.6 yards per carry (with three touchdowns).

So can the 5-foot-10, 170-pound Williams play in the pros? It’s a huge jump to go from the NAIA to the NFL. But this is a young man who’s used to making huge jumps.
 
With his stats, my question is why did he not play more?

I was trying to research this player......not much there.......until I came across this well-buried extensive uplifting article about his background. The large bolded red highlighted info near the end of the article may answer your question.
You’re Not Done Yet
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By Ed Griffin-Nolan
Posted on July 2, 2014

“I hear you’re not in school. We need to talk.”
Wendall Williams stopped pursuing his dreams until his mother called Will Dowdell to help bring him back on course. Reporter Ed Griffin-Nolan tells their story.

Wendall Williams isn’t the only kid who grew up on the South Side of Syracuse dreaming of playing one day in the NFL. And he isn’t the only kid who hit a point that made him give up on that dream.

But today, Williams, a 2008 graduate of Bishop Ludden High School, is back on track, winning championships and academic honors thanks to a mother who wouldn’t let him quit on himself, neighbors who cared and a mentor who came into his life just when he needed it.

Two years ago Williams was driving a truck, having dropped out of both Morrisville State and Onondaga Community College.

Now he’s on the dean’s list at Herkimer Community College, where he won six national championships in track and field and was chosen for the all-tournament basketball team at the national junior college championships. Just last week, SUNY Chancellor Nancy Zimpher honored him with the Chancellor’s Scholar Athlete Award, given to students who excel both in class and in sports. This week, Williams, 23, is going to Kentucky to visit the University of the Cumberlands, where he has been offered a full scholarship based on both sports and academics.

People who saw him play high school football and basketball at Bishop Ludden knew he was destined for great things. As a junior, the swift wide receiver caught 17 touchdown passes. In his senior year, he corralled 28 TDs from his quarterback, Connor Sweeney, taking their team to the state title. At the time, he was 5-foot-10 and weighed 145; today, he has grown an inch and tips the scales at 170.

“He was such a huge part of that team when they won the state championship,” says Ann Rooney, a neighbor whose son, John, played with Wendall in youth sports. She saw something special in the polite boy who became part of her family over time. “Wendall understands people well beyond his years.”

But his standout performances in the arena weren’t matched in the classroom.

“I was a bad student in high school,” Williams says. “I didn’t care about academics. I was a D student. I thought my athletic ability would get me through.”

Playing Pop Warner football and Southside Little League baseball, he made friends with kids who lived in Strathmore, most of whom attended Catholic school at Most Holy Rosary. When he came to his mother, Claudinne Clarke, with the idea of going to Ludden, she didn’t balk. Already working a full-time position as a sterile processor for the operating room at Community Hospital, she took on a second job working evenings with a cleaning service. (Now she works in the VA Medical Center).

In all his years at Ludden, Williams’ mom never missed a game or a meet. She’d finish her cleaning job early on Friday nights, meet with her older son Tarod and travel to wherever Wendall was playing.

Tarod, 31, a construction worker, was a big influence on his young brother.

“Wendall would always go to Tarod when he needed a man,” says Clarke. “He’ll say, ‘That’s my Dad.’ ”

Wendall’s father, who lives downstate, has been out of the home since Wendall was in ninth grade. Nonetheless, he chipped in to help pay the Catholic school tuition. Like all four of Clarke’s other sons, Tarod went through the Syracuse City Schools.

“The public schools were OK,” she says. “Now I hear they have problems, but I think that starts at home, and the kids bring it to school.”

“I was given a great childhood,” says Williams. “I was raised by a beautiful woman who made me a man.”

But when things got tough in school, he wasn’t ready to do the work.

Williams liked the city schools (he started at Roberts K-8, just blocks from his home, on Glenwood Avenue) but he never applied himself to his studies. For him, it was all about playing ball and about his friends. There were temptations at Corcoran, but he managed to avoid them. “Being in public school, you can go off with the wrong crowd.” He wanted to go to Ludden because that’s where most of his friends were going. But even after the switch to Ludden, he says he barely paid attention to his schoolwork.

Clarke grew up in Brooklyn, the daughter of a New York City police officer. She came to Syracuse as a young woman and raised her sons to stay close to home. “I didn’t let my kids out. They played sports.” Money was always an issue, but every night she made sure they had a home-cooked meal. Her kids didn’t drink soda, didn’t drink juice. “I gave them water with dinner, and a cup of milk at night. They would wear their baseball cleats for football, because I didn’t have money to be buying them different cleats for each different sport. And we did that thing where we’d buy the cleats a half size too big, and I’d tell them that they would have to grow into them.”

Williams says that what he learned most by splitting his high school years between Corcoran and Ludden was how to operate in a variety of social settings. “I’ve got the best of both worlds. I’m in the city scene every day after school. Ludden gave me another scene to get to know. I could network more. I know a lot of people in the suburbs. It’s very different from the city. In the city, there’s lots of distractions. (At Ludden), everybody is there to work. But I always know where I’m from.”

He chose to attend Morrisville State because of football, but when he got there, he clashed with his coach. He describes the coach — Terry Dow, who has since departed the college — as a tough, no-nonsense type of guy. The way Williams saw it, the coach talked down to his players.

“I was young and immature, not ready for that kind of coach. I left after the fall, enrolled at OCC. I went there two semesters and did nothing.”

He lived back at home for a time and found it too easy to get distracted by other things. “A lot of friends would say to me, come on, you can skip school, let’s do something else. And so that’s what I did.” He enrolled at Hudson Valley Community College, but lost his financial aid after dropping too many courses.

He took a job driving a truck. That was good money. He thought he was all set. But his mother knew he wanted more.

“I saw he was wasting all that talent,” says Clarke. “He was wasting his brains. He would say, ‘I’m OK driving trucks,’ but I knew he wanted to go somewhere. He just didn’t know how.”

Clarke remembered Will Dowdell from years before, when Williams had played ball at the Southwest Community Center. “I knew he was a very good mentor, and he works well with children. Sometimes it takes someone besides your parent.” She called Dowdell, a vice principal at Jamesville-DeWitt High School who grew up in the city and worked for years in Syracuse City Schools, including at Fowler High School.

One day, driving around in a friend’s car, Williams looked down at his phone and saw a call coming in from Dowdell.

“I had met him once at a basketball tournament at Southwest Community Center. But that was years ago. Now I’m 21 and I’m in the car with my friends, and I see Mr. Dowdell is calling me. I told my friend to turn the music down.”

It was a moment.

“He said, ‘What are you doing?’ He said, ‘I hear you’re not in school. We need to talk.’ He came the next day to get me. We went to eat. He said, ‘You’ve got a lot of athletic ability. You’re wasting your talent. We need to get you back in school, get you on the field, get you on the court.’ ”

“Then he said something, this one thing. He said to me, ‘You’re not done yet.’ Up until that point, I was cool with being a guy saying, ‘If it happens, it happens,’ and when he said that, I realized that I was wasting my talent.”

“It took me to see someone outside my family who believed in me. Sometimes, it just takes something like that. I know he cares and he wants the best for me. When he said I’m not done yet, it just hit me.”

Since enrolling in Herkimer, Williams has been on the dean’s list four semesters running. He majors in business sports management and lives in a house just off campus with some of his basketball teammates. He’s a three-sport athlete. This year, at the state championships for junior colleges, he took the 100-meter dash, the 200-meter dash and the long jump and was a member of the first place 4×100 relay team. Last year, he also took the 100- and 200-meter titles. He is the captain of the basketball team, and shot a phenomenal 71 percent from the field in the recent championship series.

If all goes according to plan, he’ll enter Cumberland as a junior with two years of eligibility remaining. He wants to play football, and two years from now expects to be ready for the NFL draft. He isn’t ruling out a run at the 2016 Olympics. His personal best time in the 100-meter dash is 10.51 seconds, barely a quarter second from an Olympic qualifying time. His best shot at the Olympic team might be in the long jump. His personal best of 25 feet, 2 inches set the national record for the Division III championship meet. According to Williams, with the right training, he can improve to 26 feet, 4 inches, which would earn him a spot at the Olympic pre-trials.

Whether he’s training or studying, he says, he always pictures Dowdell — whom he calls both a devil and an angel — taking the ride with him.

“He’s on my shoulder making sure I go toward my dream. My dream is to play in the NFL. He always instilled in me the desire to do whatever it took. He turned the light on in my head, and he’s driven me to do the best I can.”

And the woman who made the call to his mentor at just the right time?

“My mom is amazing. She’s a saint.”
 
Wendall Williams runs 4.19-second 40 at regional combine
March 5, 2016, 5:57 PM EST

The NFL’s regional combines are set up to give small-school players a chance to show what they can do, and one small-school player made the whole league take notice today.

Wendall Williams, a wide receiver from the University of the Cumberlands, ran an incredible 4.19-second 40-yard dash at a regional combine today. That breaks the official Scouting Combine record of 4.24 seconds, set by Chris Johnson.

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This is my problem with regional combines and pro days. Too much emphasis put on hand times and unofficial numbers. Obviously Williams is fast as hell but his laser time was 4.32 while the hand time was 4.19. He didn't break the record.
 
Wendall Williams runs 4.19-second 40 at regional combine
March 5, 2016, 5:57 PM EST

The NFL’s regional combines are set up to give small-school players a chance to show what they can do, and one small-school player made the whole league take notice today.

Wendall Williams, a wide receiver from the University of the Cumberlands, ran an incredible 4.19-second 40-yard dash at a regional combine today. That breaks the official Scouting Combine record of 4.24 seconds, set by Chris Johnson.

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This is my problem with regional combines and pro days. Too much emphasis put on hand times and unofficial numbers. Obviously Williams is fast as hell but his laser time was 4.32 while the hand time was 4.19. He didn't break the record.

There's also a lot of little factors. Type of turf, wind speed, etc. They may not play a huge factor but they do play a factor.
 
Greg Gabriel ‏@greggabe 4m4 minutes ago
Treadwell is generally regarded as the best receiver this year. He would not have gone in 1st in '14 or '15
This guy is maybe the best pure WR in the Draft but he's really slow as he ran only in the 4.6s. It will be interesting to see if he goes before the speed guys like Coleman(Baylor) and Fuller (ND) ? I've read in a couple places that Fuller has got some real issues catching the ball.
 
This guy is maybe the best pure WR in the Draft but he's really slow as he ran only in the 4.6s. It will be interesting to see if he goes before the speed guys like Coleman(Baylor) and Fuller (ND) ? I've read in a couple places that Fuller has got some real issues catching the ball.
Small hands, hands smaller than Jacoby Jones. I doubt he can palm a basketball.
 
This guy is maybe the best pure WR in the Draft but he's really slow as he ran only in the 4.6s. It will be interesting to see if he goes before the speed guys like Coleman(Baylor) and Fuller (ND) ? I've read in a couple places that Fuller has got some real issues catching the ball.
I think Doctson could go before Threadwell, also. Beauty will be in the eye of the beholder in this WR class.
 
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