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Robert Griffin III could be the Texans next quarterback

IDEXAN said:
Honestly, if you had a job around NRG stadium and could buy about anyplace, wouldn't you buy in River Oaks or Tanglewood, something closer and not in Lake Conroe ? Anybody who knows anything about Houston knows that would be a hellish commute ! The Woodlands would be bad enough, but Conroe is even farther north.
Hey I do kinda hope he does come to Houston.
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I thought the same thing about him looking in Lake Conroe. I don't live in Houston anymore but have family in Spring and League City so I am familiar with the commute. Lake Conroe would be brutal!! With that said, the home he looked at is right for a person of his stature and income!

I'm on board with signing him. I believe he wasn't in the best situation in Washington. I'm not a fan of QBs that played the spread offense in college. Many have been drafted but very, very few have been successful in the NFL. But give him the right structure and I believe he could be successful.
 
thunderkyss said:
How do you guys think RG3 will be received by Texans fans?

Do you think he'll be looked at as an elite talent that needs time to develop?

Or do you think he'll be looked at as the latest retread in the line of Fitzpatrick, Mallett, Hoyer?

It would be nice if he came here & started winning right off the bat. But if he were to start, I think we'll see him struggle as he tries to cope with a new offense & reduced athleticism. Of course it's been so long that anyone has actually seen him play & I may be overstating the effects of his injury, but...

If he were to struggle, are we going to be "ok" with letting him work his way through it. If we're 2-5, are we ok with trotting him back out there? If we're down 13-0 at the half & he's responsible for four turnovers, are we ok with him starting the 2nd half?

Or do we just think he's so good, we'll never be in those positions?
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JB said:
Ya'll acting like it's a done deal already. I can't see it happening. Not at all. First he's not a FA yet, he would have to be released and then it's a bidding war if there is any interest in him at all. I certainly don't see the Texans giving up picks or outbidding probably Jerrah for his services, even if they did want him. And it's not a sure bet that Washington releases him AND keeps Cousins... they probably will but does anyone know for sure? He doesn't seem like an OB guy to me but I could be wrong. O'Brien has stated that intelligence is one of the most important attributes he looks for in a QB, ya'll think Griffin fits that mold?
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It's far from a done deal. I think that RGIII is plenty intelligent and the reporting of his physical demise is greatly overstated. He probably doesn't run a 4.31 anymore but 4.5/4.6 is still very athletic.

I also believe that RGIII hasn't learned how to study film and BOB/Godsey can help in this regard. He's got the ability he just has to put the work in and RGIII is a fierce competitor. Being benched has allowed RGIII's body/mind to heal and after being benched for the 1st time in his life probably humbled him. Definitely worth a shot. IMHO
 
thunderkyss said:
How do you guys think RG3 will be received by Texans fans? Over the top by some and under the bus by others, varying amounts of each dependent on how much he costs to sign. I think most will be kind of tepid until they see the product on the field.

Do you think he'll be looked at as an elite talent that needs time to develop? Yes and no. I think he can return close to his 2012 form if he's used right and in a more stable atmosphere and locker room, not to mention a more talented team.

Or do you think he'll be looked at as the latest retread in the line of Fitzpatrick, Mallett, Hoyer? Fans who are against him from the start will jump on this bandwagon as soon as he shows any kind of struggle.

It would be nice if he came here & started winning right off the bat. But if he were to start, I think we'll see him struggle as he tries to cope with a new offense & reduced athleticism. Of course it's been so long that anyone has actually seen him play & I may be overstating the effects of his injury, but...
Until we get a good update from CnD on this subject, I'm cautiously optimistic. The 'Skins actually did him a favor by sitting him every week. Hopefully, RGIII kept himself in good shape and spent his time wisely.

If he were to struggle, are we going to be "ok" with letting him work his way through it. If we're 2-5, are we ok with trotting him back out there? If we're down 13-0 at the half & he's responsible for four turnovers, are we ok with him starting the 2nd half? To call Hoyer's play in the WC game "struggles" is akin to call the Titanic disaster a "boating accident. I'm all for letting a QB play through some struggles but not when it is clearly becoming a disaster. That's just one more way OB screwed himself, and the team, with his poor handling of the QB situation in preseason and the opener. If the Texans are 2-5 with no running game to speak of, dropped balls and a porous defense, I'm OK with keeping the QB in. If there's a respectable running game, poorly thrown balls, the defense we saw over the last half of 2015 and losing 17-10 games, I'm not cool with that.

Or do we just think he's so good, we'll never be in those positions? I think hope for the best but prepare for the worst would be applicable here.Since I'm not a huge fan of any of the QB's this year, I'm ok with going RGIII, Savage and Weeden in training camp and let the best man win. Hopefully in an open practice environment.
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That article blows chunks. It's the typical "blame everyone but the player" pablum that fans cannot get enough of.
Put a brace on his knee, and everything will be fine, right? :gun:

Just picture OB actually wanting RG3 to be his QB. No really! Try to picture that in your mind. Now picture Rick Smith shoving RG3 down OB's throat.
I think I'd actually want them to bring Hard Knocks back to watch that circus. :lol:

The only way this team will have the best chance of succeeding, is to develop a franchise POCKET PASSING quarterback. Someone who has actually learned POCKET PASSING skills before coming to the NFL. NOT someone comes into the NFL as a running QB, and then eventually has to learn how to be a pocket passer.

OH, I get it. The coaches just need to get . . (what's the word?). . "creative"?? :rolleyes:
 
GoCoogs said:
I think the Texans should at least do their due dilligence on Griffin III. At this point they can't afford to leave any stone unturned.
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Oh I think they'll do their due diligence if he becomes available... But unless he gets overridden in his choice of who to bring in (and I can't see that happening) I don't think that OB will stake his job on RGIII
 
Marcus said:
Just picture OB actually wanting RG3 to be his QB. No really! Try to picture that in your mind. Now picture Rick Smith shoving RG3 down OB's throat.
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What blew chunks was O'Brien's decision to bring in Hoyer. I can't get rid of that picture. I'm not sure if I mind having a QB shoved down O'Brien's throat. Kubiak having Wade Phillips shoved down his throat worked out pretty good for everyone. I just don't know if I want Rick Smith picking out the colors of the lunch room, much less a QB.
 
Marcus said:
That article blows chunks. It's the typical "blame everyone but the player" pablum that fans cannot get enough of.
Put a brace on his knee, and everything will be fine, right? :gun:

Just picture OB actually wanting RG3 to be his QB. No really! Try to picture that in your mind. Now picture Rick Smith shoving RG3 down OB's throat.
I think I'd actually want them to bring Hard Knocks back to watch that circus. :lol:

The only way this team will have the best chance of succeeding, is to develop a franchise POCKET PASSING quarterback. Someone who has actually learned POCKET PASSING skills before coming to the NFL. NOT someone comes into the NFL as a running QB, and then eventually has to learn how to be a pocket passer.

OH, I get it. The coaches just need to get . . (what's the word?). . "creative"?? :rolleyes:
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Want me to go to McDonalds and get you a happy meal? The guy is an accurate passer and I think that's much more important than where he's accurate from. In the pocket, out of the pocket...who really cares, as long as it's an accurate pass. He has a 64.8% career completion percentage. 40 TD's against 23 INT's with 8 rushing TD's.
I don't think you have to be very creative to let the QB extend plays with his legs, throw the ball or make a nice run with a slide at the end. Every offensive player, that I've heard about anyway, has done nothing but praise OB's ability to use what they do best. Imagine RGIII having a coach with that ability rather than one who almost single-handedly destroyed his career and actively sabotaged him (Shanny) or one who didn't draft you and has an offense that is not a good fit for you (Gruden).

I'll admit that I'm on the RGIII bandwagon, but only if it's a team friendly deal. The Texans would be nucking futs to do anything other than wait for his release and sign him to a short term, team friendly "prove it" deal. The Texans would also be nucking futs to not even give him a look-see.
 
Lucky said:
What blew chunks was O'Brien's decision to bring in Hoyer. I can't get rid of that picture. I'm not sure if I mind having a QB shoved down O'Brien's throat. Kubiak having Wade Phillips shoved down his throat worked out pretty good for everyone. I just don't know if I want Rick Smith picking out the colors of the lunch room, much less a QB.
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That's along the lines of what I was thinking, as well. At this point, I'm not sure if there is any QB that we should cross off the list for an O'Brien pet project. I'm scared to even think about it or the next thing we know Blaine Gabbert is in a Texans uniform.

I do not trust any of those jokers on Kirby to pick a QB at this point. They seem to be competent enough of squeezing out barely enough decent play out of rejects, but does this just enable them with unbridled confidence that they can do it with any given QB?

What metrics does O'Brien and Smith even use these days? Seriously, I have no idea at this point. They had no interest in any of the QBs in the 2014 draft, and they continue to pick through the scraps of garbage teams. Do they even have any established standards at this point?!
 
JB said:
Oh I think they'll do their due diligence if he becomes available... But unless he gets overridden in his choice of who to bring in (and I can't see that happening) I don't think that OB will stake his job on RGIII
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Bill O'Brien has spoken very highly of Robert Griffin III In the past. In fact, I would argue the opposite of that. I guess we'll find out if it happens or not. He's going to end up with the Cowboys or Texans. Coming back home to Texas is important to RG3.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Bill O'Brien has spoken very highly of Robert Griffin III In the past. In fact, I would argue the opposite of that. I guess we'll find out if it happens or not. He's going to end up with the Cowboys or Texans. Coming back home to Texas is important to RG3.
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He's spoken very highly of every QB he was asked about, including Fitz, Mallett, Hoyer...
 
The real question to me is the Texas team that misses out on Robert Griffin III (Cowboys or Texans), will that team end up signing Johnny Manziel?

I would like to think we have an advantage over the Cowboys because we can offer RG3 a good chance to compete for the starting job out of training camp.

He'd obviously be Tony Romo's backup in Dallas but Romo is always a good bet to suffer a serious injury a couple weeks into the season so he'd probably be a good bet to start there too.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
The real question to me is the Texas team that misses out on Robert Griffin III (Cowboys or Texans), will that team end up signing Johnny Manziel?

I would like to think we have an advantage over the Cowboys because we can offer RG3 a good chance to compete for the starting job out of training camp.

He'd obviously be Tony Romo's backup in Dallas but Romo is always a good bet to suffer a serious injury a couple weeks into the season so he'd probably be a good bet to start there too.
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Why are you so sure it's important to RGIII to come back to Texas to play pro football? Is he gonna retire if he can't play for one or the other?
 
Bulls on Parade said:
The real question to me is the Texas team that misses out on Robert Griffin III (Cowboys or Texans), will that team end up signing Johnny Manziel?

I would like to think we have an advantage over the Cowboys because we can offer RG3 a good chance to compete for the starting job out of training camp.

He'd obviously be Tony Romo's backup in Dallas but Romo is always a good bet to suffer a serious injury a couple weeks into the season so he'd probably be a good bet to start there too.
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Good Lord, I hope the Texans stay as far away from Johnny "Dumpster Fire" Foozeball as they can.
I think the distraction that comes with Foozeball, alone, is enough to scare off the Texans. OB would veto that one way or another. RGIII wouldn't be near the off field distraction and has a better work ethic, from everything I've heard or read.
 
I just love how these conversations go during the off-season, totally oblivious to past injury history.

Holds onto the ball too long because he can't read a defense, but OH NOOO, his inability to stay on the field was none of his doing.
 
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Marcus said:
I just love how these conversations go during the off-season, totally oblivious to past injury history.

Holds onto the ball too long because he can't read a defense, but OH NOOO, his inability to stay on the field was none of his doing.
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His running for the hills was because that's what an athletic QB does when he runs out of clues...
 
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Never forget! The headlines would write themselves
 
Marcus said:
I just love how these conversations go during the off-season, totally oblivious to past injury history.

Holds onto the ball too long because he can't read a defense, but OH NOOO, his inability to stay on the field was none of his doing.
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Nobody is saying he's the next coming of Johnny Unitas. Gee, no QB has ever had a difficult time learning to read a defense. Either you got or you don't seems to be your point of view.
You're also completely ignoring Shannahan's involvement. Had he pulled RG after the initial injury, we might not be having this discussion at all.
Why are you being so melodramatic about this subject? Did he date your daughter or something?
 
DocBar said:
Why are you being so melodramatic about this subject? Did he date your daughter or something?
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Why are you attacking the poster instead of his post? Because he has a differing opinion than yours and that's the only response you can come up with, or does he make you feel insecure in your opinion?
 
JB said:
Why are you attacking the poster instead of his post? Because he has a differing opinion than yours and that's the only response you can come up with, or does he make you feel insecure in your opinion?
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I'm not trying to attack the poster. I apologize if that's how it came across. I simply don't understand the harshness of the criticism or why Marcus thinks anyone who likes bringing in RGIII doesn't see any flaws in him. It comes across to me as being something personal against RGIII.

I feel perfectly secure in bringing the guy in on a team friendly contract and seeing what OB can do with him. I'm not expecting miracles, but I am intrigued with the idea and I don't think it would take a miracle to get RGIII back to being a good QB.
 
DocBar said:
I'm not trying to attack the poster. I apologize if that's how it came across. I simply don't understand the harshness of the criticism or why Marcus thinks anyone who likes bringing in RGIII doesn't see any flaws in him. It comes across to me as being something personal against RGIII.

I feel perfectly secure in bringing the guy in on a team friendly contract and seeing what OB can do with him. I'm not expecting miracles, but I am intrigued with the idea and I don't think it would take a miracle to get RGIII back to being a good QB.
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And many agree with you, but it's differing opinions that make this board great

edit: Except for the guy that thought Hoyer was a good QB :specnatz:
 
JB said:
Oh I think they'll do their due diligence if he becomes available... But unless he gets overridden in his choice of who to bring in (and I can't see that happening) I don't think that OB will stake his job on RGIII
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Would he really be staking his job on RGIII if he tells Smith "Hey, lets bring the guy in and see what we think"? Now if he made some huge sales pitch to Smith/McNair about RGIII being the QB of his dreams and the Texans will be instant Super Bowl contenders, then yeah, I could see his job being at stake over that one move.

I'm still not overly worked up about this years QB crop, but wouldn't OB be putting job at stake if he told Smith to do whatever it takes to draft X QB? We all know the risk that comes with drafting a QB and the stakes get much higher when you trade up in the 1st to get that QB. Ask the Redskins. They know a little bit about that. lol
 
DocBar said:
Would he really be staking his job on RGIII if he tells Smith "Hey, lets bring the guy in and see what we think"? Now if he made some huge sales pitch to Smith/McNair about RGIII being the QB of his dreams and the Texans will be instant Super Bowl contenders, then yeah, I could see his job being at stake over that one move.

I'm still not overly worked up about this years QB crop, but wouldn't OB be putting job at stake if he told Smith to do whatever it takes to draft X QB? We all know the risk that comes with drafting a QB and the stakes get much higher when you trade up in the 1st to get that QB. Ask the Redskins. They know a little bit about that. lol
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Any QB that O'Brien brings in as the clear cut starter puts his job on the line after this past years disaster... imho

And you don't bring in a RGIII to compete with a Savage and another mid round draft pick after McNair speech about having to find a quality QB
 
Just to adding fuel to the fire. I received a text from a friend of mine that works in NRG stadium (same place the Texans offices are) and said RG3 was there yesterday inside the building meeting with some folks.
 
JB said:
Any QB that O'Brien brings in as the clear cut starter puts his job on the line after this past years disaster... imho

And you don't bring in a RGIII to compete with a Savage and another mid round draft pick after McNair speech about having to find a quality QB
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I don't have a huge problem with the thought of bringing in RG3 (nor do I have one with not bringing him in), but I do have a problem with bringing him in as the clear cut starter. At this point, if there's a team out there who will offer him more than the opportunity to compete for the starting job (and that includes competing with a first or second round draft pick), let them have him. Even if the Texans end up with one of the top 3 or 4 QB's taken, Griffin will have a chance to start the 2016 season, and that's as much as I believe he reasonably should expect. Think of it as Kurt Warner in NY when Eli was drafted. Also (and I absolutely don't believe this to be the case) if RG3 wants to be in Texas, his only chance to start in Dallas next season is another injury to Romo. At least with the Texans, he's got a shot to win the opening day job - even if it's only a short term gig.
 
JB said:
And you don't bring in a RGIII to compete with a Savage and another mid round draft pick after McNair speech about having to find a quality QB
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Would you bring in Griffin to compete with Savage and a first round draft pick?
 
JB said:
Any QB that O'Brien brings in as the clear cut starter puts his job on the line after this past years disaster... imho

And you don't bring in a RGIII to compete with a Savage and another mid round draft pick after McNair speech about having to find a quality QB
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I wouldn't bring in any QB and name him the clear cut starter. Competition, competition, competition. I'm not nearly as down on Savage as some are. The kid made a big mistake when he transferred from Rutgers, admitted it and payed the price for it. He's a talented player, imo. A lot of the same things were said about Svagae as is being said about the top QB's in this draft. Protypical size, great arm, good accuracy. Throw in two full seasons of learning the offense, and unless there's something we don't know (and that's about 100% a possibilty) about Savage, I can't imagine him not getting a shot at the starting position.

I guess I won't be too butt hurt if the Texans draft a QB in the 1st round, as long as they don't break the bank to get him or sink the team trying to prove they got the right guy. That last part is what worries me the most.
 
DocBar said:
Would he really be staking his job on RGIII if he tells Smith "Hey, lets bring the guy in and see what we think"?

I'm still not overly worked up about this years QB crop, but wouldn't OB be putting job at stake if he told Smith to do whatever it takes to draft X QB?
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I think OB is staking his job on whatever QB he picks next. But with a vet like RGIII the leash is shorter. McNair will expect improvement in 2016 over 2015. A rookie buys 2 years unless the wheels truly fall off the bus.

Shishkabob said:
isnt this considered tampering?
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Not if the teams are talking trade and Washington has given permission to see if a new contract can be worked out.

If all these reports are correct and he is at NRG the Texans and Redskins have already agreed on a trade package. That's step 1 with the trade contingent on a new contract, step 2.

Mollywhopper said:
Would you bring in Griffin to compete with Savage and a first round draft pick?
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If they bring in RGIII they won't draft a 1st round QB Barring some Rodgers type fall.
 
Shishkabob said:
isnt this considered tampering?
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No, he's not a FA or scheduled to be at this point. It's just a friendly personal visit on his part while in the area. I don't think you can tamper with a player currently under contract
 
texanfan2002114 said:
Just to adding fuel to the fire. I received a text from a friend of mine that works in NRG stadium (same place the Texans offices are) and said RG3 was there yesterday inside the building meeting with some folks.
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Shishkabob said:
isnt this considered tampering?
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It's only tampering if the Redskins don't know about it.

Sounds like the Redskins/Texans are working on a trade. No way we'll trade for him with his current contract (I wouldn't think). So I can see him coming down to talk to the FO, make sure it's a good fit. Since he's already looking at houses, I'd imagine he & the Texans have got all the numbers out of the way.

Doesn't make sense that the General or any of the other reporters (Ian Rapoport) hadn't said nada...

He also could just be here to shoot the sht & has nothing to do with any trade whatsoever. Also not "tampering" if they aren't talking contracts & stuff.
 
infantrycak said:
If they bring in RGIII they won't draft a 1st round QB Barring some Rodgers type fall.
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Right, if they bring in RGIII, it's second or third round QB at best unless One of the top 3 falls (maybe top 2)
 
DocBar said:
Weren't you suggesting that something like that could happen in first round thread?
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its pretty common in a QB draft class like this. Where there is maybe only 1 clear cut guy. happened when we had the #1 in 2014. Many were saying that 2 QBs would be taken top 10, if not all 3 by the top 15 picks. JM fell to 22, and Teddy fell all the way to 32. Wentz has his level of competition working against him, and Lynch and Cook have consistency problems going against them. I dont see it happening, but i could see some QB needy team choosing to fill holes and wait until later for their QB
 
talk about us trading for RG3 has me kind of worried, we already dont have many picks in this draft or much depth on our team. I would still like to draft a QB if we acquire RG3 meaning we would be spending multiple picks on the QB position
 
Shishkabob said:
talk about us trading for RG3 has me kind of worried, we already dont have many picks in this draft or much depth on our team. I would still like to draft a QB if we acquire RG3 meaning we would be spending multiple picks on the QB position
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Hopefully it's just kicking the tires in case he does get released... maybe they've already been told that he'll be released

I don't care for the idea of trading for him either
 
Shishkabob said:
talk about us trading for RG3 has me kind of worried, we already dont have many picks in this draft or much depth on our team. I would still like to draft a QB if we acquire RG3 meaning we would be spending multiple picks on the QB position
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I don't like the trade talk at all. OB would definitely be hitching his wagon to RGIII, though.
 
DocBar said:
Weren't you suggesting that something like that could happen in first round thread?
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Well I don't think all the teams being listed as likely to take a QB, lIke the Cowboys, are going to do so in the 1st so I think the QB selections will be much more spread out than many of the projections I am seeing. Barring a trade I think Cleveland is the only top 10 team to take a QB.
 
JB said:
Hopefully it's just kicking the tires in case he does get released... maybe they've already been told that he'll be released

I don't care for the idea of trading for him either
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I can't think of a reason Washington would allow this without the possibility of a trade. Maybe the godfather has his gangsta on & he's leading Washington to believe we're interested in a trade, just to get access to RGIII... then wait for him to be released anyway.

But I doubt it. Then again, I doubted we'd be interested in an RGIII trade at all, so what do I know?
 
Mollywhopper said:
Would you bring in Griffin to compete with Savage and a first round draft pick?
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That is the route i would take IF the price is right for RG..basically everbody and their dog knows that we can't compete with the big boys with Hoyer at QB. I also don't want us to go into the draft with what we have. I just think a team will rake us over the coals when(if) we tried to move up. (Esp after McNair made the statement)

I don't think RG is the answer and it would suck to go into another season with a lame duck QB being we can't find a long term starter,but he would be better than what we have(i hope)
 
Wolf said:
That is the route i would take IF the price is right for RG..basically everbody and their dog knows that we can't compete with the big boys with Hoyer at QB. I also don't want us to go into the draft with what we have. I just think a team will rake us over the coals when(if) we tried to move up. (Esp after McNair made the statement)

I don't think RG is the answer and it would suck to go into another season with a lame duck QB being we can't find a long term starter,but he would be better than what we have(i hope)
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I dunno who's the answer, but after the Texans PO game the whole world knows it's not our current starting QB, so McNair didn't provide any info that anyone interested in the NFL does not already knows.
 
He cleaned out his Redskins locker room last week.
I still think better times are ahead for that kid.


If RG3 comes to Houston maybe he'll give me his Hulk action figurine!
 
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