OzzO
.. and then?
yeah, I think they were all in on that fail, just seems Hillard hits it with a vertcial body
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Broncos @ Texans, 7:00 PM **Official GameDay Thread** Preseason Game 2
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yeah, I think they were all in on that fail, just seems Hillard hits it with a vertcial body
nut
Veteran
I might be a nut, Mr. Marcus, but I am a realist. I have seen that you espouse the party line with no rational backing to your statements. Do you really think that Mallett does not want to heave the ball downfield to show his arm strength over his competition? Instead he would prefer to dink & dunk and he is calling an audible for these plays rather than the bomb sent in by the play caller. Thank you so much for your input and the personal attack.
QuiGonGinNTonic
Waterboy
amazing80
Hall of Fame
I agree, I am no fan of his either. If I had to rank them I would say...
Blue by a mile
Grimes but his inability to break tacles is really wearing me down
Polk he seems like a hard runner, closing the gap on Grimes
Hilliard
nut
Veteran
Me too. I agree.
texan279
Hall of Fame
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
Bummer. I wanted to win that game. We took our final timeout with 37 seconds left and that sack cost us way too much time. Savage has to have that quick clock in his head to scramble and throw it away.
Really? 3rd and long with 14 seconds left and we don't throw deep into the end zone? We had two shots unless there was an interception. Why are we throwing a little route that doesn't even go out of bounds? Game over. Frustrating.
Tom Savage is a good kid. Not sure about his future as a legitimate starter in this league.
Really? 3rd and long with 14 seconds left and we don't throw deep into the end zone? We had two shots unless there was an interception. Why are we throwing a little route that doesn't even go out of bounds? Game over. Frustrating.
Tom Savage is a good kid. Not sure about his future as a legitimate starter in this league.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
Too bad we wasted that final 37 seconds. Hindsight is 20-20 but should have hurried and spiked the ball. Saved that timeout in our pockets. Set up at least one pass into the end zone. We were within striking distance prior to the sack.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
nut
Veteran
Not any better by the coaches.
nut
Veteran
Thanks again for your input Mr. Marcus. I'm sure you were privy to when those bombs were being called.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
On the plus side this should be a fun practice week leading up to the next episode of Hard Knocks. You can't help but learn a lot from a loss like tonight. Some good things but mostly a lot of bad things. The coaches have a lot to work on.
Number19
Hall of Fame
On first take, hard game to assess. Not many players consistently stood out. Worthy took a step back with his dropped punt. I think Polk may be solidifying his spot as number two behind Blue. Kourtney Brown didn't impress in the first half but had the big play in the second. The one player who did stand out was Charles James and his plays on special teams.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
It's frustrating as a fan because neither of the top two qb's are being given enough series for us to really get a feel for them. Unless savage really is in play for starter or backup then he's playing too much.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
KJ2 just looks the part. Iso'd on Demaryius Thomas early and didn't back down. Has some little stuff to work on, but he's the real deal.
BMac got injured early, returned but was limping around. Played through it.
Nix looked about the same, maybe a bit better on a few plays. Not bad, not great.
Nobody is looking Strong's way too often. Open and ignored on a few. Should've been a goal line target.
Hoylett were meh. Not bad, but neither found a rhythm. Playcaller needs to help with that.
Savage still isn't ready. Threw some great balls out there, but his clock is too slow and focus too narrow.
Rolle>DMorris tonight, and I thought Rolle was injured coming into the game. DMo is slot only, but where's the speed?
Kourtnei made a few plays, Trail a couple. Mancz didn't embarass himself.
Quentin Demps walked in ready to ball.
Jones looks worse at LG than last year. JAdams looked okay at both positions. Ferentz had some good and ugly busts.
Khari made some plays with his hands but missed on blocking.
Fiedo caught a ball but missed on sustaining a block.
Nate Washington. Nice.
Bullough made some nice plays but got blown up on one run.
Charles James is a ST player, but not sure he wins in defense.
Like the way Polk looks.
Bouye was toasted one time.
Covington made some nice plays early but got gassed and less effective later on.
EZ nice catch on a nice toss by Tom.
Our depth is still... not deep. Need another infusion of players. I expect we'll be active added guys cut by other teams. As active as the waiver order allows.
BMac got injured early, returned but was limping around. Played through it.
Nix looked about the same, maybe a bit better on a few plays. Not bad, not great.
Nobody is looking Strong's way too often. Open and ignored on a few. Should've been a goal line target.
Hoylett were meh. Not bad, but neither found a rhythm. Playcaller needs to help with that.
Savage still isn't ready. Threw some great balls out there, but his clock is too slow and focus too narrow.
Rolle>DMorris tonight, and I thought Rolle was injured coming into the game. DMo is slot only, but where's the speed?
Kourtnei made a few plays, Trail a couple. Mancz didn't embarass himself.
Quentin Demps walked in ready to ball.
Jones looks worse at LG than last year. JAdams looked okay at both positions. Ferentz had some good and ugly busts.
Khari made some plays with his hands but missed on blocking.
Fiedo caught a ball but missed on sustaining a block.
Nate Washington. Nice.
Bullough made some nice plays but got blown up on one run.
Charles James is a ST player, but not sure he wins in defense.
Like the way Polk looks.
Bouye was toasted one time.
Covington made some nice plays early but got gassed and less effective later on.
EZ nice catch on a nice toss by Tom.
Our depth is still... not deep. Need another infusion of players. I expect we'll be active added guys cut by other teams. As active as the waiver order allows.
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Mr teX
Hall of Fame
It became Pretty clear to me today that mallet isnt letting plays develop and he's not surveying the field at times when there are plays called and opportunities to throw it down the field. he's dumping the ball off too fast..he's not trying to get hit out there.
In 2 preseason games i think he's the only one who hasnt hit a pass over 20 yards in the air. in fact, i dont even think he's even attempted 1 deep pass all preseason...unless you count that pass he threw to blue today. Some of that actually is playcalling but some of that is him too. Contrast that with Hoyer who was throwing it downfield within 3-4 plays when he got in today. We've also already seen Savage go deep like 5 times. If you say its playcalling, it simply doesnt make sense that the coaches would call deep and intermediate shots down the field for the other 2 and not Mallet..especially when he's got the strongest arm of the 3.
In 2 preseason games i think he's the only one who hasnt hit a pass over 20 yards in the air. in fact, i dont even think he's even attempted 1 deep pass all preseason...unless you count that pass he threw to blue today. Some of that actually is playcalling but some of that is him too. Contrast that with Hoyer who was throwing it downfield within 3-4 plays when he got in today. We've also already seen Savage go deep like 5 times. If you say its playcalling, it simply doesnt make sense that the coaches would call deep and intermediate shots down the field for the other 2 and not Mallet..especially when he's got the strongest arm of the 3.
Our offense looked very unsure of itself this week. The O line scares me in that it has not played with any consistnecy. Guys are getting pushed around a lot.
The QBs didn't really do anything to make themselves stand out. I have heard that there's no preseason gameplanning for the opponent, but it makes it hard to assess who can execute a gameplan when your run a vanilla offense
The QBs didn't really do anything to make themselves stand out. I have heard that there's no preseason gameplanning for the opponent, but it makes it hard to assess who can execute a gameplan when your run a vanilla offense
texan279
Hall of Fame
Agreed 100%. It baffles me. In an article I read yesterday, O'Brien was quoted as saying “I need to see a little bit more and I want to give Ryan a chance to start a game, and put some more thought into it. Then make a decision at some point whether it’s next week or the week after. At some point, we’ll make a decision.” If this is the case why the F has Savage gotten the most playing time this preseason so far?
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
I think that O'Brien is starting to realize that Savage has the best chance of actually being a difference maker in the league at some point in his career. Hoyer and Mallett may be able to be decent players for us for a year or so, but they aren't taking any team anywhere worth talking about. Any realist would see it this way IMO. Savage isn't ready but he needs to improve yearly. I don't give a **** how much Mallett and Hoyer improve, they aren't taking us anywhere anyway.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I don't give a **** who he thinks is going to be the best in some year other than 2015.
He quite obviously doesn't think that's Savage right now so stop f'king around with him.
PapaL
Loose Screw
I wonder what the split is on who we think is the starting QB.
It feels like a lot of people think their guy is.
I'm not backing either but to me it feels like Mallett is the guy. I don't have a reason. Just going off the feel of these last two games.
If he's not, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
It feels like a lot of people think their guy is.
I'm not backing either but to me it feels like Mallett is the guy. I don't have a reason. Just going off the feel of these last two games.
If he's not, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
texan279
Hall of Fame
I stated earlier in the thread I haven't been able to watch the first two games in their entirety, but from what I have seen I can't make a choice on who I would pick as our starting QB. Neither has "wowed" me from what I have seen.
texan279
Hall of Fame
From the little I have seen in the preseason, if this team wants to even sniff the playoffs, our defense will have to carry our sorry ass offense all the way there. Without having a true #1 QB stand out to me, without Foster, and the shaky O line play, what I have seen from the offense has been pitiful.
ghostlight
Veteran
What I came away from watching game was the starting ol is not what i thought it was. We are in need of some #1 picks on the OL like the Oilres did. We need to bundle some mid rounds draft spots to get a high 1st for a 10 yr. started.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
My theory? O'Brien doesn't give a **** what Mallett or Hoyer can do against third stringers and so far almost everyone playing in the 2nd half is a 3rd stringer.
Both Mallett and Hoyer were impressive in the first preseason game. I was hoping one of them would have stepped up and won the job outright tonight and neither did. It was just a total lackluster performance from both guys tonight.
ghostlight
Veteran
at this time I think Mallet is the starter
The problem is Bill has both of these guys too scared to cut it loose right now. Savage is the only one playing a little free. Mallett is a gun slinger. You don't want him to make mistakes but he is what he us. He's playing safe right now. Hoyer is just that. A safe, game manager type QB. OB has already made his mind up. He's making the wrong choice though.
How do you know Mallett isn't a game manager at heart too? All three QBs have had the same, relatively vanilla, set of plays to work with. If Mallett is a gunslinger, it looks, to me, that O'Brien is training him not to do it. Like you said, Savage appears to be the only one of the three willing to freelance. ...even if it's just a little bit.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Because nowhere else in his football playing career has he been that.
Not even last year when he played for us the one game he was healthy.
So I wouldn't relabel the guy based off of a few pre season series.
If anything it's possible that he can turn into that guy, but he hasn't been that guy by any stretch based on his body of work.
Nitrofish
Let The Big Fish Eat!
Seemed to me like they were asking the kicker to kick it short. Gotta evaluate special teams guys. How are you supposed to do that with touchbacks?
Sure it does. O'Brien already knows Mallett can throw the deep ball. But you cannot go deep on every play. So if it were me evaluating QB's. I would be showing them film of their weekneses and asking them to show me they can improve on those during these pre season games. I would then call plays that target those weeknesses. I'm not sure why everyone is trippin'. Peyton Manning looked like crap too. Both teams looked like they were just evaluating players, and knocking off a little rust IMO.
Grams
Veteran
That is what it looked like. Vanilla offense, vanilla defense. A few stood out and made some good plays - James, Brown, K Johnson. Some did not help themselves at all - Kmart, Bouye, Bulloch, 21 - Morris?