I like this. Surprised I haven't seen it brought up before.
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Wait a decade and see if your priorities change.It's immediately followed by a commercial break, kickoff, commercial break. I can wait 30 seconds to see what happens on a meaningful play.
In Rugby they kick the conversion from any distance the kicker chooses in line with where the ball was touched down.
Obviously the wider the touchdown the further back they tend to go to narrow the angle.
I'd like to see a similar rule in place in the NFL, would add an extra skill-set to the place kicker position, and if you said the 2 pointer still goes from the centre no matter what, you'd see plenty more situations where teams choose the 2 point play.
I don't give a crap if it is a gimme, you get rewarded for scoring a TD.
The reward for scoring a TD is six points. The extra point is an earned opportunity, doesn't mean it must be a gimme. If that's the case just make the TD an automatic 7.
The reward for a touchdown is SIX POINTS and an OPPORTUNITY for extra point(s). The Extra Point(s) should be earned and not a gimme. When first instituted, the extra points were much more difficult and were often the deciding factor in close games. The new rules are just an attempt to RETURN to this. ALL scoring should be difficult, not just touchdowns.There were 1,293 TD last season. That comes out to an average of 40 per team which then translates to just 2.5 TD per game. That's it. Even in this era geared toward offense, it's hard to score a TD in this league. The PAT is a reward play for doing so. I don't give a crap if it is a gimme, you get rewarded for scoring a TD. I don't understand the charge to want to make the reward for success harder. It's an un-timed reward play, leave it the **** alone.
Why would they change the rules to the most popular game in this country? Why not do away with FG's altogether. Why not change the footballs to make them harder to kick? I bet if you were a kicker you would feel differently. The God'ell's new motto seems to be if it aint broke we're going to fix it anyway.
I guess I'm just a traditionalist.
Baseball was riding pretty high until the steroid mess broke open. That's when baseball fell from favor. For the life of me I can't see what this change does to improve the NFL game experience.If they didn't change the rules to football, we'd still be watching games with no passing with leather helmets. Baseball was once the most popular game in this country, but it got stuck in its history and was too slow to adapt.
Baseball was riding pretty high until the steroid mess broke open. That's when baseball fell from favor. For the life of me I can't see what this change does to improve the NFL game experience.
Feels like a gimmick to me.
I've said before and I'll say it again, by mid-season, kickers will be making PATs from the 15 at a 98-99% clip just like they're making PATs from the 2 at that clip today.
The God'ell's new motto seems to be if it aint broke we're going to fix it anyway.
I guess I'm just a traditionalist.
The game has ben made worse by all of these rule changes under God'ell. Defenseless receiver for example is terrible for the game for instance. IMHO
1982 - defenseless receiver rule instituted - hits with crown or top of the helmet prohibited against players in the act of passing or receiving.
1995 - can't lower head, launch or land with full body weight (on passers) or hit in the head, neck or face even if initial contact is lower
2006 - Goodell takes over
2010 - prohibited hits to the head also cannot be done with shoulders or forearm
90% of defenseless receiver was in place before Goodell.
The fines/suspensions for big hits began to get enforced under God'ell. I guess I need to be very specific.
Ah I see, stuff after the games are over retroactively ruins them for you.
Why would they change the rules to the most popular game in this country? Why not do away with FG's altogether. Why not change the footballs to make them harder to kick? I bet if you were a kicker you would feel differently. The God'ell's new motto seems to be if it aint broke we're going to fix it anyway.
I guess I'm just a traditionalist.
No, a player who has to worry about hitting a player too hard because he will A. get a penalty B. Get fined, cheapens the game.
Tell me do you think the NFL is becoming more like the AFL and do you like this brand of football more than the late 70's early 80's brand?
Yeah because lord knows players don't think about what will draw a flag. Good job, you just proved Goodell correct.
Whatever, just another example of you choosing to hate someone and them writing your own narrative, even to the point of rewriting NFL history.
I actually do like the receiver rules better than the days when the only pass interference was pulling out a gun and shooting the WR. My complaints with regard to receiver/DB interaction now are on consistency of enforcement rather than the rules themselves.
Overall, I enjoy football in terms of the type of game played just as much now as then. And I think 99% of the complaining like yours that gets done is demonstrably false crap - oh, "QBs wear skirts" even though they're going out with concussions, blown knees, busted shoulders left and right ... acting like defenseless receiver is something new ... acting like pass happy offenses would be news to Warner, Fouts, etc. ... acting like defenses are helpless kittens compared to the great D's "of ye olde days" when Seattle has had an all time level D, ... "might as well be flag football" when the players are bigger, stronger, faster and instead of inflicting minor play through them injuries with eye pokes, twisted/broken fingers and busted noses, now inflict season ending broken legs, pulped knees, etc.
It's almost all just a new version of "son back in my day I had to walk 10 miles through snow to school, both ways" (ya pansy, arrg, arrg, "me real man").
If it's so horrible, you know your options. Personally I think you'd be beotching and attacking chosen targets (McNair, Smith, Goodell) no matter what the rules.
I think I'll be a traditionalist, too. I hate the forward pass!! Bring back REAL football! You know, three yards and a cloud of dust!
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And while we're at it, get rid of that pansy helmet! Real men don't need 'em!! Real football players bang their heads together and die for their sport!!!
If you did away with helments the concussion issues would probably be a lot less.
Glad y'all are loving God'ell's brand of AFL football.
If you did away with helments the concussion issues would probably be a lot less.
Glad y'all are loving God'ell's brand of AFL football.
Statistics reveal that concussions are much higher in the only comparative sport on the planet, and that would be rugby.
As far as pro foootball, I love it as a fan regardless of the commish. Besides, as we have chatted about many times, Goodell only represents the interests of the true power in pro football, and that would be the power of the 32 owners themselves. He does NOTHING without their consent, and, he pursues agendas based on their visions and demands for the league.
Your obsession with hating on Goodell is exactly why the man earns 40+ million a year. They pay him big money to be the point man for all the public vitriol, and he is their attack dog who takes all the heat for their ultimate decisions because they do not want to deal with the bad publicity themselves.
The NFLPA would never agree to a head-injury liability waiver.
Give them more $$$$ and God'ell's head on a platter and I think you may be surprised.
They didn't fix the "Dez rule". Because from what I just read, Dez made a catch.
Perhaps an over reaction, but not silly. Brady and Belecheat brought this on themselves and the rest of the league.This is silliness supreme
That's my issue with this whole deal. Lets say they found under-inflated balls in a Tennessee vs. Jacksonville game or a Buffalo vs Miami. Would there have been an investigation? Would the league have spent millions of bucks and taken three months to find out how it happened?Perhaps an over reaction, but not silly. Brady and Belecheat brought this on themselves and the rest of the league.
So why the "quotes" around the word priors? Whether it warrants the additional penalties or not, the prior infractions are more than just "perceived".That's my issue with this whole deal. Lets say they found under-inflated balls in a Tennessee vs. Jacksonville game or a Buffalo vs Miami. Would there have been an investigation? Would the league have spent millions of bucks and taken three months to find out how it happened?
No.
There would be the required $25K fine and maybe a semi-stern note from the league office.
I doubt many of us would have even heard about it. But because it was the Pats and they had perceived "priors" NFL justice went into overdrive.
Silliness supreme.
The prior transgressions were at the team level. And the team was penalized. Now it looks like Goodell is after Brady. If he isn't, why weren't the forfeited draft picks and heavy fine sufficient penalty at the organizational level.So why the "quotes" around the word priors? Whether it warrants the additional penalties or not, the prior infractions are more than just "perceived".
Personally, while you can still argue that the penalties were too severe, I don't think you ignore those "priors" any more than you ignore the fact it's a second or third offense when you're talking about player discipline. Yeah, more scrutiny was given to this because of New England's history, but in principle, I've got zero problem with that.
The prior transgressions were at the team level. And the team was penalized. Now it looks like Goodell is after Brady. If he isn't, why weren't the forfeited draft picks and heavy fine sufficient penalty at the organizational level.
For the record, I'm not a Brady or N.E. fan so please don't take this as coming to their defense.
It's the Effed up process I'm griping about.
(how can I phrase this without it sounding gay?)So you don't believe he was in on it?
I did a quick guesstimation yesterday based on the difference between middle of the field FGs and XPs and # of tries in 2014 that resulted in an approximately 18 more XPs missed in 2014. Seems high to me.
So, the first TD of the season just occurred... The player crossed the endzone near the left sideline and the extra point was snapped from the left hashmark. Was the placement of the ball due to the TD play, or did the kicker request the left hashmark? Anyone know for sure?
The second TD clarifies it. Ran it in down the middle, but the extra point was still from the left hash.
Which might explain why the Eagles brought in Tim Tebow. Everyone know about out his poor passing abilities, but no one doubts his running skills especially in an option formation.
I wonder if the drop kick can be done from the 2 or if it must be done back where the place kick is required? I've always been a fan of bringing it back.That's an interesting point. Maybe a 2 point specialist is a position that could evolve, like long snappers.
I wonder if the drop kick can be done from the 2 or if it must be done back where the place kick is required? I've always been a fan of bringing it back.
Statistically, this makes the two point conversion rate the better option. 12 points on 12 tries (1.000/try) vs 50 points on 52 tries (0.962/try).Mike Pereira @MikePereira
Jacksonville got called for 16 fouls including 5 defensive holds and 5 false starts. McAulay's crew was active. 29 total fouls in the game.
The Saints were penalized 18 times. That was the most of the week. 5 offensive holding calls.
The Raiders were penalized only 3 times(fewest this week) while their opponents, Rams, were penalized 14 times. Jack Del Rio influence?? Fouls called, not accepted.
There were 34 fouls called in the Miami/Chicago game. John Parry's crew had 7 offense holds and 7 defensive holds. Miami had no false starts
The Bears were called for 7 false starts...
That's 96% accuracy which is just about what the League expected. That compares to over 99% in the past season.
Thoughts on pre-wk 1...Two missed extra point kicks. Looks like they were 50 for 52. Neither miss returned. 6 for 12 on two point trys.
It also means that out of 24 points that could have been made on 2 pointers, only 12 were made whereas 50 points were made out of 52 tries on a kick.Statistically, this makes the two point conversion rate the better option. 12 points on 12 tries (1.000/try) vs 50 points on 52 tries (0.962/try).