BL 2015 Mock 8.0

[beerlover]

First: DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville, 6025 209 (4.42 A-33 1/4" VJ-42")

Second: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson, 6025 243 (4.58 A-32 1/2" BP- 23)

Third: Adrian Amos, CB/S, Penn State, 6004 218 (4.53 A-32!/4" VJ- 35.5")

Fourth: Mitch Morse, OL/OT/OG/C, Missouri, 6053 305 (5.14 A-32 1/4" BP- 36)


Fifth: Karlos Williams, RB, FSU, 6006 230 (4.48 A-33" H-9 3/4")

Sixth a.: Lyden Trail, OLB, Norfold State, 6063 251 (4.92 A-34 7/8" H-10 1/2")

Sixth b.: Martin Ifedi, DE (5-tech) Memphis, 6031 276 (4.90 A-33 7/8" H- 10")


Sixth c.: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska, 6011 197 (4.40 A-31 5/8" VJ- 41.5")

7th: Kyle Loomis, Punter, 6015 221 Portland State (5.0 A-32 1/4" H-9 7/8")

Best case IMO Texan fans. Would trade up to #11 Minnesota to land Parker, however they do it time for Rick Smith to take his board to the draft. Anthony would be huge get next to Cushing inside, plays with heavy hands will control middle. Amos can fill multiple positions in secondary, has speed, size & cover skills to be boundary corner or rangy free safety. Morse is a gem who wants to start regardless of position. Would like to see him compete for starting Center position (proven experience) can fill either guard position if needed as well emergency swing tackle. Intrigued with Karlos coming out of the backfield, excellent speed change of direction, instincts, playmaker. Lyden is my sleeper pick, great attitude/size speed combo pass rusher. Also looking for another DL to develop for depth/rotation w/Crick. Cash in WR position reflecting depth of class with unheralded Kenny Bell fortifying stable. Gives Texans a cheaper, 46.0 avg. leg, polished young man to follow in Shane Lechler's footsteps.

Stay thirsty (positive) my friends.

 

[JB]

I really like your first 3 picks, don't know a lot about the rest of them.

I've read some really scary things about Karlos Williams tho that make me hope he's not on the Texans board

 

[Blake]

WR, then ILB. Seems the most logical to me. I hope Parker is still on the board for us. Although I wouldnt be opposed to jumping up a bit if Coop was still hanging around for some crazy reason.

 

[thunderkyss]

I could get behind this draft.

Adrian Amos, are you looking at him as a CB/S or a safety?

 

[Playoffs]

Nicely done, I'd sprint to the podium for many of those.

 

[beerlover]

I could get behind this draft.

Adrian Amos, are you looking at him as a CB/S or a safety?

I think Amos would make an excellent, big/physical corner. Would focus on refining his cover skills, in fact I would say he is very favorable to Kareem when he came out of Alabama. Not out of realm of possibility that he starts opposite Kareem Jackson in 2016.

 

[Lucky]

I like it a lot. Hope a lot of these guys are there when you have them selected. #fingerscrossed

Issues? Can't see Karlos Williams here. They may not even look at RB until after draft with smaller return guys after the Polk signing. Punter? Really think they'll draft a punter?

 

[beerlover]

I like it a lot. Hope a lot of these guys are there when you have them selected. #fingerscrossed

Issues? Can't see Karlos Williams here. They may not even look at RB until after draft with smaller return guys after the Polk signing. Punter? Really think they'll draft a punter?

thanks!

Polk lessons need to draft a RB @ same time he is very similar & inexpensive so why not bring him into camp & give Foster some serious competition? Did have some drops & benefited from playing with Winston, but comes from a pro-style offense.

 

[Lucky]

@ same time he is very similar & inexpensive so why not bring him into camp & give Foster some serious competition? Did have some drops & benefited from playing with Winston, but comes from a pro-style offense.

It's the character issues that would keep Williams off the Texans board. As well as other teams. Otherwise, he's a 5th round pick like you have him.

 

[TexansSeminole]

I don't think Karlos Williams is worth a draft pick honestly. He had the domestic abuse case by his baby mama that was dropped (I believe) and he's not much of a back. He's great running down hill but doesn't have the necessary agility to be a huge factor in NFL. There are other backs with the same ability available.

 

[Mollywhopper]

Williams is a thoroughbred. He absolutely looks the part when he's running to daylight. Try and get a thoroughbred to change direction, break a tackle, or pick up a block though.

 

[IDEXAN]

Great mock BL, but I sure you are right about Parker being there on our board ?

 

[mussop]

Only mock I have seen that I really like.

 

[beerlover]

Only mock I have seen that I really like.

Thanks

Wonder if Texans struggle with their board as much as we do, lol. Finally, when all said & done targeted Parker as best player available @ position of need that is realistic. Would even be willing to trade up to land him, feel it's that important! Anthony was actually a much harder projection cause he could easily go earler in 2nd as well but would be a great addition to this defense. Amos should still be available unless teams think he can play corner too? You guys would love Morse, solidfies multiple inside OL positions. Understand issue with Karlos, maybe there are so many prospects with red flags I wonder what would happen if Texans used a mid round pick on him, maybe turn his/family life around? Trail is a developmental boom or bust prospect but really like his positive attitude combined with work ethic to be a steal. Ifedi is a core special teams player with potential to rotate adds valueable depth & Bell is a statement pick to the quality & depth of this years WR class.

 

[bhsman]

Pretty solid draft overall, nice work.

 

[GermanTexan]

I really like this mock, although none player has met my own mock. Would love to have these players around.

I dont think they´d use a draft pick for a punter.

 

[beerlover]

I really like this mock, although none player has met my own mock. Would love to have these players around.

I dont think they´d use a draft pick for a punter.

Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGLZqBvhCaY

 

[beerlover]

I like it a lot. Hope a lot of these guys are there when you have them selected. #fingerscrossed

Issues? Can't see Karlos Williams here. They may not even look at RB until after draft with smaller return guys after the Polk signing. Punter? Really think they'll draft a punter?

Took another LSU back Keny Hilliard 7th. not sure I see him contributing like Karlos Williams but Texans really seem to like LSU backs. Know somebody got this right, I may even mocked him myself early in the process. I can't understand how, why or where Loomis went, seemed like a sure fire rookie with a shot to start?

 

[beerlover]

I don't think Karlos Williams is worth a draft pick honestly. He had the domestic abuse case by his baby mama that was dropped (I believe) and he's not much of a back. He's great running down hill but doesn't have the necessary agility to be a huge factor in NFL. There are other backs with the same ability available.

Karlos Williams | RB, Florida State, eight: 6-1 Weight: 230
5th rd. 155th overall (Texans traded pick #152 where I had him slotted) by Buffalo Bills

 

[TexansSeminole]

Karlos Williams | RB, Florida State, eight: 6-1 Weight: 230
5th rd. 155th overall (Texans traded pick #152 where I had him slotted) by Buffalo Bills

The Bills love themselves some Noles. They've got like 10 on the team.

 

[beerlover]

Karlos thankful for Mom on Mothers Day.
http://m.buffalobills.com/s/30841/260?itemPos=3&itemUri=2105827027/511804126768111271143110613

 

[beerlover]

Some random draft related questions to my fellow Amigo's who follow draft process (you know who you are)-

Would you prefer Texans traded up w/Vikings for Parker?

or​

Are you satisfied Texans waited until 3rd rd. to get Strong?

On to corner position. Was Kevin Johnson your top rated CB like he was on Texans board?

or​

Has Texans selection changed your mind?

Do you feel Benardrick McKinney will be a beast in Crennel D?

or​

In your opinion, was there a better fit available somewhere else in draft?

 

[Mollywhopper]

Some random draft related questions to my fellow Amigo's who follow draft process (you know who you are)-

Would you prefer Texans traded up w/Vikings for Parker?

or​

Are you satisfied Texans waited until 3rd rd. to get Strong?

On to corner position. Was Kevin Johnson your top rated CB like he was on Texans board?

or​

Has Texans selection changed your mind?

Do you feel Benardrick McKinney will be a beast in Crennel D?

or​

In your opinion, was there a better fit available somewhere else in draft?

- Depends on what we'd have had to give up to get that pick, of course. I did though have Parker rated above both White and Cooper as top WR in this class, so I would have been pretty stoked just about regardless of trade-off. That said, I'm in the minority that likes Strong having been high on him since about October. In the third he's a steal, he'll bring a trustworthy target, and I have no doubt he'll become close pals with Mallett as I'm counting on them becoming a steady battery.

- Marcus Peters was my top rated corner, but I knew his character stuff would make it a long shot. I very much like Johnson, (took him with the Dolphins in the 2nd in the TT Mock) but was surprised we went CB in the first. Comforting to know losing JJo shouldn't be as painful next year. Johnson is such a natural athlete in all movements cornerback, his transition should be minimally bumpy.

- Torn between McKinney and Kendricks at that pick. Kendricks looks fit as could be stylewise to slide next to Cush. On the other hand, with RAC grooming him and Cush leading by example, McKinney may be fit to be Cush at some point. Goodness knows we need more of a physical presence in the middle, so I've got my fingers crossed for the kid. He's a little too read/react right now, so I'm also hoping a little more of an instinctive lightbulb goes off for him after he settles in.

I think we'll get ranging contributions from these kids early, unlike last year. Coupled with one or more of the project picks we took later showing up, and the FA signings, I'm looking forward to this offseason's haul to start stewing. Probably the most complete package of additions we've added in one offseason.

And after that post I'm off to have Kool-Aid withdrawals ...

 

[thunderkyss]

Some random draft related questions to my fellow Amigo's who follow draft process (you know who you are)-

I'm one of those guys who don't even watch college football, but start paying attention around draft time. I'll give you my opinion, as a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Would you prefer Texans traded up w/Vikings for Parker?

or​

Are you satisfied Texans waited until 3rd rd. to get Strong?

DeVante Parker looked like a possible Aj replacement. Strong doesn't. I didn't think we'd have a shot at Parker, but the closer he got, the more I started thinking we'll go up to get him.

I expected more trading up to get "our guys" as that's my impression of the Patriot way. I was hoping we identified a guy in the first & made plans to get him.

On to corner position. Was Kevin Johnson your top rated CB like he was on Texans board?

or​

Has Texans selection changed your mind?

I wasn't even thinking CB. I was thinking that would be a prime spot to take a rangy ballhawk... but that description didn't fit any of the safeties projected in the first.

Drafting Kjo has allowed the possibility to seep into the back of my mind, of seeing a lot of defensive sets with one safety, Kjo, Jjo, & Kjax on the field. With either Kj "playing" safety against 2 WR sets. Maybe seeing Bouye or Morris converted to safety.

Do you feel Benardrick McKinney will be a beast in Crennel D?

or​

In your opinion, was there a better fit available somewhere else in draft?

Again, I don't know what I'm talking about... but from the reaction at draft time, McKinney seems like a work out warrior. A couple of other ILBs were available who were more productive and "rated higher." but McKinney was more impressive at the combine.

I know there's the thing about "team fit" and all... & he's got something you can't coach in ideal size/athleticism package... & Rick's been right on the last two "controversial" reaches (Nuk & Kj... & Jj if you want to get right down to it), so I'm cautiously optimistic.

I think we're adequate at the LB position "next to Cush." We don't really need a star two down player. I like Muhamed there. Dent isn't bad. So if McKinney is starting week 1, I hope that means he's "better" than those two & not just because he's a second round pick.

Hopefully, he's the athletic "Cush replacement" just in case Brian can't be the guy we need him to be.

 

[Doppelganger]

Some random draft related questions to my fellow Amigo's who follow draft process (you know who you are)-

Would you prefer Texans traded up w/Vikings for Parker?

No. In order to move up, the texans would have had to have given up their first, second, and fourth. The real question is would I rather have Parker or Johnson/McKinney/Strong. I'll take the three potentially good to very good prospects vs 1 very good prospect.

Are you satisfied Texans waited until 3rd rd. to get Strong?

or​

It comes down to value. I think Johnson and McKinney were higher rated players than available WRs at the positions. If Parker was available at 16, I would have taken him. But, since he was gone, the drop off was too high in my opinion. So, yes, I am satisfied.

On to corner position. Was Kevin Johnson your top rated CB like he was on Texans board?

or​

No. I had Trae Wayans as the #1 corner, but I had KJ as the #2. I figurered that Trae would be off the board at 16 and there may be a chance Johnson would be gone as well. In a passing league, good corners are a premium.

Has Texans selection changed your mind?

No. I still have Trae #1 and KJ #2.

Do you feel Benardrick McKinney will be a beast in Crennel D?

Yes. I think he has the potential to be a 3 down LB and could play as an OLB in a pinch.

In your opinion, was there a better fit available somewhere else in draft?

I would not say better fit, but other interesting options would have been Eli Harold the OLB from Virginia converted to an ILB or Kyle Emanuel from North Dakota State.

 

[badboy]

Some random draft related questions to my fellow Amigo's who follow draft process (you know who you are)-

Would you prefer Texans traded up w/Vikings for Parker?

or​

Are you satisfied Texans waited until 3rd rd. to get Strong?

On to corner position. Was Kevin Johnson your top rated CB like he was on Texans board?

or​

Has Texans selection changed your mind?

Do you feel Benardrick McKinney will be a beast in Crennel D?

or​

good questions:



In your opinion, was there a better fit available somewhere else in draft?

I don't think Vikings would have traded but if they were open to one, I am positive it would have cost too much. Parker better than Strong but the latter I think will be a very solid player and 3rd round is ridiculously cheap.

Waynes was best but I did not see us going CB in first and I liked Malcomb Brown. I would trade KJ2 for him today. I thought our roster was deep at CB but do not hate the pick.

ILB= all talk pre-draft seemed to be of needing a backer who could cover and then we selected one who cannot? I like him as a shut the run down clog the middle guy but that was not the talk. If he is good at that as I believe, we will be just fine. I prefer Kendricks but would have been ok with Jake Ryan in later rounds.

 

[beerlover]

I don't think Vikings would have traded but if they were open to one, I am positive it would have cost too much. Parker better than Strong but the latter I think will be a very solid player and 3rd round is ridiculously cheap.

Waynes was best but I did not see us going CB in first and I liked Malcomb Brown. I would trade KJ2 for him today. I thought our roster was deep at CB but do not hate the pick.

ILB= all talk pre-draft seemed to be of needing a backer who could cover and then we selected one who cannot? I like him as a shut the run down clog the middle guy but that was not the talk. If he is good at that as I believe, we will be just fine. I prefer Kendricks but would have been ok with Jake Ryan in later rounds.

Vikings could have traded down w/Texans & drafted Kevin Johnson + picks so is Kevin really all that or not? Rowe, drafted in 2nd maybe better than either, he has size & strength over both so why the rush to address position when other viable applicants are out there to fill a back-up role?

I'm sure on Parker but less sure about Strong. Isn't a comparable replacement to Andre Johnson part of the plan to move forward without him? Strong is just another guy who may or may not cut the mustard.

Don't like McKinney, especially trading up. He is a physical specimen but so what if he can't read NFL schemes or QB progressions. He will be a liability in coverage & mis-direction plays. I don't get it, we'll see what happens now all three are signed sealed & delivered.

 

[rmartin65]

Some random draft related questions to my fellow Amigo's who follow draft process (you know who you are)-

Would you prefer Texans traded up w/Vikings for Parker?

or​

Are you satisfied Texans waited until 3rd rd. to get Strong?

I would not have disliked a trade up, but I think it was better asset management to come away with Strong in the 3rd.

On to corner position. Was Kevin Johnson your top rated CB like he was on Texans board?

or​

Has Texans selection changed your mind?

Not my top-rated, but I like the pick just fine. Would not have been my pick, but I liked what I saw on tape, and love what I have read.

Do you feel Benardrick McKinney will be a beast in Crennel D?

or​

In your opinion, was there a better fit available somewhere else in draft?

I am really, really undecided on this one. I think McKinney will be very good at stuffing the run, and could be pretty special at rushing the passer. But, despite his athleticism, he is not a coverage backer. As long as he is not asked to do that too often, I like the pick. So I guess it comes down to how he is used.

 

[beerlover]

I would not have disliked a trade up, but I think it was better asset management to come away with Strong in the 3rd.

Like way you phrase that, but anybody asking why he slipped to the 3rd rd? Are Texans that much smarter than other 31 teams or what exactly is "rest of story"

Not my top-rated, but I like the pick just fine. Would not have been my pick, but I liked what I saw on tape, and love what I have read.

Like pick/player too but would like pick/player more if he was bigger & stronger, with same work ethic

I am really, really undecided on this one. I think McKinney will be very good at stuffing the run, and could be pretty special at rushing the passer. But, despite his athleticism, he is not a coverage backer. As long as he is not asked to do that too often, I like the pick. So I guess it comes down to how he is used.

Agree 100%. My issue is what we're both thinking about would be a hybrid or new position for him, in that case, he will most likely struggle. Depends how he takes to Vrabel coaching him up & if he does then Mike will be onto a defensive coordinator position (maybe Crennel retires).