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Chris Polk - RB signed

Texans sign RB Chris Polk, formally of the Philadelphia Eagles. Basic 1 year Texan deal, $660k with max $100k in per game bonus. I'll get the numbers up on the site later this evening.

FWIW: Philly put a 2nd round tender on the RFA, but when no other teams put in an offer, Philly pulled the offer sheet. That made Polk go from RFA to UFA immediately. Texans pounced on the opportunity. Polk also has KR experience.
 
5'11" 222 25 YOA from August 2014:
Following Thursday night's third preseason game, coach Chip Kelly noted that Chris Polk (hamstring) better be looking over his shoulder.
Polk hasn't played at all this preseason with a slightly torn hamstring. While he's been out, UDFAs Matthew Tucker and Henry Josey have been running the ball well behind LeSean McCoy. The Eagles also traded for Kelly favorite Kenjon Barner. Polk's roster spot is in danger after he opened training camp as the heavy favorite for No. 2 ball-carrying duties behind McCoy.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Fri, Aug 22, 2014 10:00:00
From April 2014:

According to ESPN's Adam Caplan, the offseason shoulder surgery Chris Polk underwent was "major."
The Eagles never revealed the exact nature of the shoulder injury that Polk sustained in Week 8. All we know is he began to siphon snaps from Bryce Brown down the stretch and then went under the knife following the Wild Card loss to the Saints. It's possible Polk had surgery to prevent the shoulder from popping out of place going forward. Regardless, he should be healthy enough to battle Brown for a backup job in camp -- assuming Brown is still on the team.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/286628/chris-polks-shoulder-surgery-was-major



Chris Polk - RB - Eagles
The Philadelphia Inquirer speculates restricted free agent Chris Polk could be seeking a trade.
Polk has not signed his $1.54 million RFA tender yet and was not present as the Eagles opened their offseason program Monday. It's understandable he wants a trade as the Eagles have DeMarco Murray, Ryan Mathews and Darren Sproles ahead of him. Perhaps Chip Kelly could pull some magic out of a hat and get a seventh-round pick for Polk.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Apr 21 - 9:20 AM
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Somebody is going to get a quality running back in Chris Polk

My least favorite transaction the Philadelphia Eagles made this offseason was signing DeMarco Murray to a huge, long-term contract. Obviously, Murray is a good player—he did lead the NFL in rushing last season—I’m simply philosophically opposed to investing large sums of money into 27-year-old running backs, especially when they were ridden hard and have durability issues to begin with.

But now there’s another (albeit, lesser) reason to take issue with the move. As a result of the Murray and Ryan Mathews additions, and with Darren Sproles already on the roster, Chris Polk apparently was none too pleased about his opportunities in Philadelphia, and who could blame him? So Polk didn’t jump at the chance to sign his one-year tender as a restricted free agent, and the Eagles ultimately rescinded the offer on Friday, which means he can go wherever he wants.

Is losing Polk a big deal in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. He was never more than a third-string running back here, and the Eagles are loaded at the position. Clearly, he wasn’t going to see much action in 2015, then he would’ve departed as an unrestricted free agent the following offseason anyway.

Yet it’s a shame Chip Kelly didn’t recognize Polk’s value was greater than numbers or status suggest. At 25 years old and $1.542 million, he was a younger, cheaper alternative to the Murrays and Mathews and Sproles of the world, at an area where teams don’t necessarily need three stars to achieve success. In fact, even the best ball-carriers are reliant to an extent on the offensive line to pave the way, which is why it’s questionable to allocate so much salary-cap space into the backfield in the first place.

Plus, Polk looked good. Granted, small sample size here, but he carried 57 times for 270 yards—a 4.7 average—and seven touchdowns over the past two seasons. The guy has a nose for the end zone, and a no-nonsense, north-south, look-for-contact running style that will serve him well in any offense. He even contributes on special teams.

Polk has some durability issues of his own, and it’s not like another club is going to install him as its workhorse back, but he can play. He’ll just be doing it elsewhere, despite the fact the Eagles could’ve had him by doing little more than handing him a contract to sign.

It’s not as if Polk is some irreplaceable commodity, either. If the Eagles even carry four running backs on the 53-man roster, Matthew Tucker spent the past two seasons with the organization and could fill Polk’s spot on special teams and meager role in Philly’s offense. It just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to let a talented player walk away when you own his rights.

Sure, Murray, Mathews and Sproles are established, superior backs, so the Eagles don’t need Polk. Who even cares about some benchwarmer, right?

Polk’s departure isn’t going to cost Philly a Super Bowl, it likely won’t even cost the Eagles any wins. However, it seems unnecessary. Clearly, Kelly values running backs differently from the rest of the league, and we’ll find out if his expensive fleet of Pro Bowl ball-carriers can push the Birds back to the playoffs soon enough. But somewhere in the NFL in 2015, another team could be experiencing just as much or more success with Polk on the roster, for far less money and commitment.
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/somebody-going-get-quality-running-back-chris-polk
 
Polk had significant hamstring problems throughout all of last season. It was the reason for him missing some games and a significant factor in the Eagles' notable limiting of his RB role. Hopefully this problem does not follow him to the Texans.
 
takes RB off my list, Polk is a really good, young back just breaking into the league.

I went back & watched some of his college highlights. He looked alight. Good size, good speed (doesn't look like 4.4 speed), good vision. I'd liked to have seen more passes caught out of the backfield, since I'm hoping we'll see more of that in OB's offense.

Hopefully his body has held up to the grind.
 
5'11" 222 25 YOA from August 2014:
From April 2014:


According to ESPN's Adam Caplan, the offseason shoulder surgery Chris Polk underwent was "major."
The Eagles never revealed the exact nature of the shoulder injury that Polk sustained in Week 8. All we know is he began to siphon snaps from Bryce Brown down the stretch and then went under the knife following the Wild Card loss to the Saints. It's possible Polk had surgery to prevent the shoulder from popping out of place going forward. Regardless, he should be healthy enough to battle Brown for a backup job in camp -- assuming Brown is still on the team.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...gery-was-major


http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/286628/chris-polks-shoulder-surgery-was-major



2014 46/172 3.7 avg

As a high frequency full contact type of running back, his shoulder is much more worrisome than what appears on the surface. In 2008 as a Freshman in college, he sustained a right labrum shoulder injury that required season ending surgery. In 2009, he suffered the same injury to the same shoulder, but made the decision to tough it through with the aid a heavy brace because he did not want to miss back to back seasons. Following that season, he proceeded with his 2nd shoulder surgery. There were reports before the 2012 Draft that several examining team doctors labeled Polk's right shoulder as "chronic" and "degenerative." Dr. James Andrew, though was asked to examine him and said that his shoulder was just fine. Fast forward 1 year later........he again injures his right shoulder labrum shoulder that required surgery January of last year. BTW, each of his shoulder injuries leading to surgery were not as a result of a fall to the ground, but as a result of direct shoulder to body contact during his runs or blocks.
 
Polk had significant hamstring problems throughout all of last season. It was the reason for him missing some games and a significant factor in the Eagles' notable limiting of his RB role. Hopefully this problem does not follow him to the Texans.

I thought you once said soft tissue trauma like this seldom completely goes away.
don't let me misquote you on this
 
As a high frequency full contact type of running back, his shoulder is much more worrisome than what appears on the surface. In 2008 as a Freshman in college, he sustained a right labrum shoulder injury that required season ending surgery. In 2009, he suffered the same injury to the same shoulder, but made the decision to tough it through with the aid a heavy brace because he did not want to miss back to back seasons. Following that season, he proceeded with his 2nd shoulder surgery. There were reports before the 2012 Draft that several examining team doctors labeled Polk's right shoulder as "chronic" and "degenerative." Dr. James Andrew, though was asked to examine him and said that his shoulder was just fine. Fast forward 1 year later........he again injures his right shoulder labrum shoulder that required surgery January of last year. BTW, each of his shoulder injuries leading to surgery were not as a result of a fall to the ground, but as a result of direct shoulder to body contact during his runs or blocks.
Sounds like he needs to change his running style to not running over tacklers.

Do you have any info on Virginia safety Anthony Harris who played all 2014 in a harness with a shoulder injury? He had surgery after season and expected back early summer.
 
Sounds like he needs to change his running style to not running over tacklers.

Do you have any info on Virginia safety Anthony Harris who played all 2014 in a harness with a shoulder injury? He had surgery after season and expected back early summer.

He actually suffered a right labrum tear (just like Polk) late in 2013 and played through the rest of that year and the entire 2014 season. Unrestricted return to play usually requires ~5-6 months. In college, he spent a lot of time in the box.......not a good place to live once you've had such an injury.
 
He actually suffered a right labrum tear (just like Polk) late in 2013 and played through the rest of that year and the entire 2014 season. Unrestricted return to play usually requires ~5-6 months. In college, he spent a lot of time in the box.......not a good place to live once you've had such an injury.
thanks, I thought injury was same as Polk. I want to remove RB Karlos Williams from mock and slide Harris in but shoulder concerns me. Harris never missed a game until 2014 Senior Bowl. 188 tackles in two seasons is pretty good although he frequently needed assistance.
 
thanks, I thought injury was same as Polk. I want to remove RB Karlos Williams from mock and slide Harris in but shoulder concerns me. Harris never missed a game until 2014 Senior Bowl. 188 tackles in two seasons is pretty good although he frequently needed assistance.

Williams is a catastrophe waiting to happen. In 2013, he suffered a significant shoulder injury and last year he started having ankle problems, then sustained a severe concussion at the end of the year. But what would keep me way far away from him is the "domestic violence felony" charges that were eventually dropped, because others witnessed and reported him beating his girlfriend, but the girlfriend refused to talk to the authorities and refused to press charges and testify.
 
Williams is a catastrophe waiting to happen. In 2013, he suffered a significant shoulder injury and last year he started having ankle problems, then sustained a severe concussion at the end of the year. But what would keep me way far away from him is the "domestic violence felony" charges that were eventually dropped, because others witnessed and reported him beating his girlfriend, but the girlfriend refused to talk to the authorities and refused to press charges and testify.


They deserve each other.

A special kind of guy. Stay far away.

I have high hopes that Polk can carry the ball/catch passes 125/150 times this yr. If he stays healthy 10 games and produces like he should Polk is an upgrade over Blue.
 
I have said that repeatedly. When I was injecting the "hopefully," I was at least trying to piss a little sunshine into the cereal this time.

:spit:

good one!

The phrase, "a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down" comes to mind.
 
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Rick may deserve quite a bit of the criticism he gets but not when it comes to running backs. He knows they are a dime a dozen and just forget about those silly mocks that have the Texans drafting Gurly in the first round. He'll add another back or two from the Draft and maybe expend a 4th pick or lowr, but likely sign one undrafted. He's already got an undrafted back as #1 one on his depth chart who's been to multiple Pro Bowls. Rick knows the value of backs, now if he can just get hose 3rd round picks right.
 
Polk didn't do a whole lot in Philly but I liked him coming out of college. He's a decent power back and he's also really useful as a receiver out of the backfield. He could help out in the return game if they want him to.

This probably spells the end for Grimes. Polk is a great option to take away third down touches from Foster.
 
Rick may deserve quite a bit of the criticism he gets but not when it comes to running backs.

There has been 1 RB found during his tenure. Don't mistake your RBs are dime a dozen attitude for success on his part (while forgetting the 2nd that was spent).
 
There has been 1 RB found during his tenure. Don't mistake your RBs are dime a dozen attitude for success on his part (while forgetting the 2nd that was spent).

Wait just a cotton-picking second. Back when I used to constantly point out that Smith always drafts busts in the second and third round you always said that Tate was not a bust. So I'm guessing you're finally admitting he is and was?
 
Wait just a cotton-picking second. Back when I used to constantly point out that Smith always drafts busts in the second and third round you always said that Tate was not a bust. So I'm guessing you're finally admitting he is and was?

Some folks can see that the options are not probowl or bust. I still don't think Tate was a bust but I don't think anyone would point to Tate as demonstrating any particular acumen for finding value RBs either. He was bleh not bust.
 
There has been 1 RB found during his tenure. Don't mistake your RBs are dime a dozen attitude for success on his part (while forgetting the 2nd that was spent).

You could say Slaton as well. Nobody expected him to produce like he did. It's just very unfortunate wha happened with his hand.
 
There has been 1 RB found during his tenure. Don't mistake your RBs are dime a dozen attitude for success on his part (while forgetting the 2nd that was spent).
When Ben Tate blew out his knee if I recall correctly Foster basically had secured the job as the starter for the duration of ben's time here, so mark his time in Houston to an injury-plagued time.
As I recall the big-screw up for the Texans @ RB was the FA signing of the former GB guy, but wasn't that before Rick Smith became our GM ?
 
Some folks can see that the options are not probowl or bust. I still don't think Tate was a bust but I don't think anyone would point to Tate as demonstrating any particular acumen for finding value RBs either. He was bleh not bust.

Pro bowl or bust = hyperbole, most don't see it this way.

Of course you don't think Tate was a bust.
 
When Ben Tate blew out his knee if I recall correctly Foster basically had secured the job as the starter for the duration of ben's time here, so mark his time in Houston to an injury-plagued time.

The point is nobody drafted or brought in UDFA by the Texans has gone on to do anything in the NFL besides Foster.

Now I'm not claiming that's been on Smith. May have been Kubiak. Either way Smith has no track record for finding RBs of any kind much less on the cheap.

As I recall the big-screw up for the Texans @ RB was the FA signing of the former GB guy, but wasn't that before Rick Smith became our GM ?

Nope. Smith became GM June '06. Green was brought in March '07.

Pro bowl or bust = hyperbole, most don't see it this way.

Of course you don't think Tate was a bust.

Thanks for being nonsensical again. You just said "most don't see it this way (purely to contradict you) but I do."
 
Pro bowl or bust = hyperbole, most don't see it this way.

Of course you don't think Tate was a bust.

Neither do I. Tate averaged 4.7 yds/carry while in a Texans uni. And that's while splitting time with Foster. How is that a bust?

I also think Slaton was a good find considering he was drafted very late in the 3rd round (#89 overall) and that he was a bonus pick acquired when we traded back in the Duane Brown deal. We got a 1200-yd rusher out of a pick we didn't even have until Rick Smith cut a deal and somehow you turn that into a bad thing.
:mariopalm:
 
Steve Slaton a bust? I'll have none of that! Just ask the Toronto Argonauts. They're more than happy with his 5.7ypc and positive, can-do attitude!

I think he's so close to being a legit NFL RB that for a season he fooled everybody but he's not. Great guy and he gave us everything he had but he's not a franchise back. A role player maybe but he fumbled the ball too often and when he gained weight he got slow and it showed.
 
Steve Slaton a bust? I'll have none of that! Just ask the Toronto Argonauts. They're more than happy with his 5.7ypc and positive, can-do attitude!

I think he's so close to being a legit NFL RB that for a season he fooled everybody but he's not. Great guy and he gave us everything he had but he's not a franchise back. A role player maybe but he fumbled the ball too often and when he gained weight he got slow and it showed.

I had no idea he still played football. Good for him. I wonder if anyone over there wants a slightly used Texans Slaton jersey? BTW is the CFL's logo not the worst? A maple leaf with a football. Tag line: This is our league. What does that even mean? Oh Canada. SMDH.
 
Polk is a solid player. Definitely not a feature back, but I could see him beating out Blue as the clear back-up to Foster.

Bigger issue is that Foster and Polk are both constantly fighting injuries so we might still need another RB.
 
Neither do I. Tate averaged 4.7 yds/carry while in a Texans uni. And that's while splitting time with Foster. How is that a bust?

I also think Slaton was a good find considering he was drafted very late in the 3rd round (#89 overall) and that he was a bonus pick acquired when we traded back in the Duane Brown deal. We got a 1200-yd rusher out of a pick we didn't even have until Rick Smith cut a deal and somehow you turn that into a bad thing.
:mariopalm:

For a 2nd rd pick how many games did Tate impact positively?

Agreed on Slaton, in fact Slaton had more of an impact on the franchise than Tate did. There's a reason Tate is out of the league.
 
For a 2nd rd pick how many games did Tate impact positively?

Agreed on Slaton, in fact Slaton had more of an impact on the franchise than Tate did. There's a reason Tate is out of the league.

His attitude?
 
His attitude?

Right on, JB. He seemed to way over-value himself as an NFL RB when he hadn't really done much to prove it.

Heck, I remember the draft footage of him being so upset about not getting drafted in the 1st round. He was on the verge of tears he was so upset. I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, but after watching him those few years I saw that attitude translate.

Who knows what would've happened had he not tear his ankle up his rookie year. But, he still never had that sort of patience and vision that Foster has.
 
Right on, JB. He seemed to way over-value himself as an NFL RB when he hadn't really done much to prove it.

Heck, I remember the draft footage of him being so upset about not getting drafted in the 1st round. He was on the verge of tears he was so upset. I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, but after watching him those few years I saw that attitude translate.

Who knows what would've happened had he not tear his ankle up his rookie year. But, he still never had that sort of patience and vision that Foster has.

At the time, I actually liked the drive he showed there. I liked that he got upset that other guys were drafted at his position before he was.

During that draft, I was really pushing to get a 1st or 2nd round RB. I wanted Mathews or Tate.

:roast:
 
For a 2nd rd pick how many games did Tate impact positively?

Agreed on Slaton, in fact Slaton had more of an impact on the franchise than Tate did. There's a reason Tate is out of the league.

Tate is a talented mopho, but he never developed the vision, or the patience, or the ability to read blocks the way Foster did. When he was running behind the best offensive line in Texans history, he had his moments, but when the line suffered, so did he.
 
At the time, I actually liked the drive he showed there. I liked that he got upset that other guys were drafted at his position before he was.

During that draft, I was really pushing to get a 1st or 2nd round RB. I wanted Mathews or Tate.

:roast:

I really liked Tate that year. Was ecstatic when we landed him.

The problem with him was that his work ethic never matched his talent, and that's not enough in the NFL.

He was right to be pissed off about other guys getting drafted ahead of him. He was talented as hell. But instead of crying about it he should have busted his ass and done something about it. He expected touches and playing time to be given instead of earned.
 
When Ben Tate blew out his knee if I recall correctly Foster basically had secured the job as the starter for the duration of ben's time here, so mark his time in Houston to an injury-plagued time.
As I recall the big-screw up for the Texans @ RB was the FA signing of the former GB guy, but wasn't that before Rick Smith became our GM ?

FYI. I believe you meant his ankle.
 
Another intriguing roster decision was rescinding Chris Polk’s restricted free agent tender. The Eagles added DeMarco Murray and Ryan Mathews to join Darren Sproles in the backfield, but Kelly said the Eagles planned a role for Polk.

“I would take Chris back in a second,” [Chip] Kelly said. “Chris would have made this football team and we would have carried four running backs and three tight ends if Chris was still here.”

However, Kelly said Polk wanted to go somewhere else where he would have a bigger role. He signed with Houston, where Polk can compete to be the No. 2 back and will likely be no lower than the No. 3 running back.

Still, it was the Eagles who let him have that opportunity to look elsewhere, which was a bit surprising. It’s likely that there was no trade market or maybe the Eagles hoped they could get Polk at a lower contract figure, but they still let him go...
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...Chris-Polk-decisions.html#A0vZfbj5rZvC0Opd.99
 
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