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The Johnny "Football" Manziel NFL thread
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Showtime100
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chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Better than savage at what? Sucking? The guy was abysmal and is too effing stupid and immature to take advantage of his opportunities. This ain't college and the men he plays against exposed him for the boy he really is.
Beer and Metal
Buzzed Cacophony
Scoop him up is a term to use. I've used it when I had to drag a guy out of a bar and prop him up on his couch in such a way he wouldn't choke on his puke if he threw up.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
so you didn't witness Savage's all out panic when he was called on?
Scooter
Funky
I saw the panic, and would take David Carr in the fetal position over Manziel.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Are you kidding? There's still people who think , if given another chance, that VY could still play in this league.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
I believe there are more folks that think Manziel will have a better NFL career than VY, than there are those who believe VY could still play in this league. Either instance is a loosing proposition.
I've spent some time in rehab .... Recently. It was either that or lose everything.
To be quite honest , I went into that rehab facility thinking I didn't have a problem & that I'd just fake my way thru it. Tell them what they want to hear , get this behind me , go home & have a drink.
It didn't take me long being in that environment to realize just how flawed that thinking was.
Substance abuse is a son of a b!tch , being an addict is something the non-addict can never fathom. Non-addicts don't have to concern themselves with what happens after they take that first drink , first hit off that joint or take that first pill .... You'll drink a couple beers and go to bed , that addict doesn't know if he'll go to bed , if this is the start of a month long binge or worse ....
Celebrity rehab is surely a joke but if he's really trying to get his life together he's likely in the right place.
I can sympathize with Manziel. I lived that "real world" reality show without the camera's in my late teens & early 20's partying like there was no tomorrow. Every bad decision leading to another .... and the consequences becoming more dire with each. I look back & wonder how the hell I'm alive in one piece & free.
Johnny Football is lucky to be getting this help now rather than when he's closing in on 50 and having to deal with the consequences of 35 years of substance abuse.
If he's serious about getting clean & staying clean I don't see why he cant go on to have a productive career on the field because on the field he is special ....
The fact that he's stayed beyond the 28 days that's the norm and done so on his own tells me he's serious about what he's doing because otherwise he could simply walk out the door and the only consequence is he's right back where he started the day he walked in.
I haven't had a drink since October 29th 2013.
edo783
Hall of Fame
Congrats. I am sure we are all pulling for you.
Scooter
Funky
It certainly is, as I know very intimately. Booze (fortunately the only substance abuse that I got saddled with) and other addictions are just plain mean. I certainly hope Johnny gets clean and lives a long and healthy life.
I don't think that the drink has anything to do with his career though. Alcohol isn't flying him to Vegas and Miami for parties with celebrities, alcohol isn't using his playbook as a frisbee on Tuesday afternoons and alcohol doesn't have anything to do with his narcissistic personality. It's certainly possible that NOT having alcohol will better let him focus on what's important by removing the many social trappings that come with drinking, but I frankly don't see that happening - Johnny will still be showing up where he shouldn't and putting goofing off over football, he'll just be doing it with a water bottle in hand.
I kinda see it all as part of the process of decision making .... one bad decision after another .... or making the right decisions. Substance use / abuse included.
If the thinking doesn't change , the behavior never will. Once you change the thinking .... You start making better decisions and not just those related to using or not.
That's not to say I think he's a lock to come back and play in the league , he may not but its possible he gets his sh!t together and has a happy productive life without the circus side show that's followed him around since A&M that was dictated by his thinking (or lack of).
And there are those that still believe that the Texans would be better off if Kubiak was still HC and BOB isn't a good HC.
and some people that have to inject bitterness about a different subject all together into every thread
Ditto
PapaL
Loose Screw
I hope you're better at your day job. Running an NFL team is not for you.
Did you see how he calmed down after? Gotta tell the entire story.
so why inject the Kubiak lover in every thread brother?
yeah but beating the dead horse don't accomplish much and just sidetracks conversations...
I've yet to see a Smith lover, what's the point in arguing what we all know?
Say Watt
Hall of Fame
You know what's worse than the Manzielots? Those that take joy in a man's downfall. He has checked into rehab, has stayed much longer than the required stay/traditional stay, and is struggling with one of the most debilitating and difficult to conquer diseases on the planet.
But go on. Continue cheering and dragging the guy through the mud. I almost wish the curse of substance abuse on each of you that choose to do so.
But go on. Continue cheering and dragging the guy through the mud. I almost wish the curse of substance abuse on each of you that choose to do so.
Not really secretly,
Everybody knows my thoughts, I thought Kubiak got a raw deal.
I also think BOB is different and a new voice was needed at HC. I'm rooting for Kubiak to do well except against the Texans.
BTW, do you think Smith will sabotage BOB with albatross contracts and how much juice does smith have in personnel/draft decisions?
I think this draft will tell a lot. Do we have a lot of the old wtf drafts or do we have a good draft (hopefully with better luck) like 06 and last year?
Having lived with that curse for most of my life , I wouldn't wish it on anyone .... not even a politician.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Ok manziel is probably better than savage, but that's like saying Kris Kross is better than color me Badd.
PapaL
Loose Screw
"Jump" vs "I wanna sex you up"? I think we need a poll for this!
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I wanna sex you up is a classic. Jump is too, but it doesn't have the same appeal.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
Kris Kross all the way.
Is that a Longhorn tat??
You gotta' separate the issues. There is "Johnny Football", the entertainer. And there is Johnny Manziel, the individual human.
There certainly could be some schadenfreude (pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others) with some folks toward Manziel because of his "JFF" persona and public image.
However, there are some of us that wish Manziel the person all the best with dealing with his struggles, while also being fully aware that so-called "Johnny Football" - the entertainer - is a full of crap, narcissistic NFL bust.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Is that a Longhorn tat??
You gotta' separate the issues. There is "Johnny Football", the entertainer. And there is Johnny Manziel, the individual human.
There certainly could be some schadenfreude (pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others) with some folks toward Manziel because of his "JFF" persona and public image.
However, there are some of us that wish Manziel the person all the best with dealing with his struggles, while also being fully aware that so-called "Johnny Football" - the entertainer - is a full of crap, narcissistic NFL bust.
I believe so. And you can't tell because he's covering it up, but I think he has a belly button piercing with a Longhorn trinket hanging off it.
Made that last part up, but it would be a funny story.
On the other points you make - Yeah if he has a real problem with substance abuse then hopefully he gets the help he needs and hopefully the treatment will keep him sober so he can take back control of his life not just this fleeting career. But I can only imagine the people he surrounded himself with won't truly support him and just enable him like everyone else has. Fair or not it's all up to him and time will tell if he can make the changes in his life that won't cost him something more dearly than a career in the NFL.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Schadenthis
Is that a Longhorn tat??
He wanted to go to UT... he's been pretty open about that, they didn't want him as a QB, so he kept looking & settled at A&M.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I think it's possible that if Manziel beats his demons he may not really want to play football anymore.
You bring up a very interesting point .... when you stop using your substance(s) of choice , you almost become another person altogether.
I know I find myself thinking .... Why did I do that before ? Why did I think I liked this ?! What's so fun about that ?? And not just about drinking .... but about many other things.
Being sober changes has changed my life as much if not more than having kids did ... and I can think of few things that are as life altering as kids.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
There seem to be reports that the Browns may be interested in putting up their two 125 round picks to get Marriota and essentially put Manziel far on the back burner.
Say Watt
Hall of Fame
It's a human being. No, you don't gotta' separate the issues. I hate the guy for making me look like a dumbass for being so gung-ho about the Texans drafting him, but it sucks for both Johnny Manziel AND Johnny Football to be dealing with demons such as this.
Besides, ever thought that maybe, just MAYBE, it's been the substance abuse issues bringing out the irritant known as Johnny Football, the entertainer?
I stand by my statements. Those that rip on the guy and make fun of him while he is trying to get help with one of the most debilitating issues known to man can all eat a bag of dicks. It's wrong, and you know it, DB.
Whatever, man. You're way too emotional about this to have even a short rational conversation. You feel like a dumbass because of an opinion of an entertainer? That's on you. Check your own mirror and quick judging yourself on goofy standards. Who really gives a crap if you were wrong about an opinion on something as meaningless as entertainment?
And please, save your soapbox for someone else. I've dealt with "demons" and have a long history of the mental illness of addiction, both my own struggles in life as well as family history.
It's a choice to drink, so quit acting like it's insurmountable. JUST QUIT DRINKING. And quit the downtrodden act of acting like it's an incurable disease like cancer. Addictions are behavioral and can be corrected. You don't wake up and decide to quit cancer like you can decide to quit drinking.
You stand by your statements and I stand by mine.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
^^^^^ that's is what's making you look like a dumbass, not that you wanted the Texans to draft him.
I find it hard to feel empathy for a man that that embraces the attention off the field more than embracing his responsibility as an adult, teammate and employee. He is childish and immature and he was exposed as such. If he has a real substance abuse problem good for him that he recognizes the problem and hopefully he'll control his demons. But my guess is he's acting the same way he's always been, he's doing the same things he's always done, except now he's playing against men that do this for a living and that isn't the same as doing against boys in high school or guys in college.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
~70 days inpatient. Could've opted out at any time.
That length speaks to his willingness. Good sign.
From personal experience .... I wouldn't doubt that at all.
Its obvious he has a lot of talent. IF he comes back and stays clean while concentrating on Football instead of all that other sh!t , I think he will be successful .... The odds are against any addict / substance abuser staying sober , I wish the guy luck.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
jump all day everyday...