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Doppelganer Returns to DoppelMock: Version 4.0

It’s time to get back to the basics. Physicality is the name of the game. Tougher hard nosed teams like the Seahawks are beatiing down softer teams that rely on finesse. When he was hired bOb talked a good game about wanting a tougher, meaner, physical squad. In the 2014 draft, he used picks to become that more physical type of team. This mock continues that approach.


1. Jalen Collins, CB/S, LSU, 6’2, 195lbs, 4.48
An excellent DB prospect from DB U. He is a physical defender and would be a handful for many receivers. Could play as corner, nickel corner, or as a Free Safety. An instant starter at 3 positions.

2. Danny Shelton, NT/DT, Washington , 6’2. 339lbs, 5.29
A nasty 3-4 requires a mean NT up front who can neutralize the run and help to collapse the pocket. Shelton can certainly do that. He who bring a much needed physicality that has been lacking from the NT spot. Steps in right away and forms a formidible rotation with LNIII.

3. Paul Dawson, ILB, TCU, 5'10, 240lbs, 4.69.
Like Reggie Ragland(my initial selection until I was correctly alerted that he is heading back to school), Dawson is a great ILB prospect. He has a high motor and flies around the field. A little undersized, but could be a Zach Thomas type LB. A good hard nosed player who could start immediately.

4. Tony Lippett, WR, Michigan State, 6’3, 185lbs, 4.57
A good size receiver with good hands and crisp route running. Not the fastest, but should be able to be a quality #2 receiver. Will fight for the ball and has some quality blocking ability.

5. Tyler Lockett, WR/KR/PR, Kansas State, 5’11, 4.41
A superb athlete. Would be a great weapon as a slot receiver, kick returner, and punt returner. It is clear that Martin is not cutting it in the slot receiver or returner positions. Drafting Lockett gives bOB options and that is the key to his offense. Is not afraid of going over the middle and would be a great weapon out of the backfield.

6. Louis Trinca-Pasat, DE, Iowa, 6’2, 290lbs, 4.98
The need for a formidable DL continues and LTP would certainly help. While his linemate Carl Davis got all the headlines, LTP was more disruptive. He did a good job holding his line and was able to get more pressure on the QB than the more well known Davis. LTP is an under the radar type guy who has a good motor and would fit into the overall team dynamic of being a more physical team.

7. A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee, 6’2, 245lbs, 4.71
Yes, I am aware he has a few character red flags. BUT, he is a very high level Linebacker. He is athletic enough to play all 3 downs, he can sack the QB, is a force in the middle of the field, and can chase down runs. He is aggressive, mean, and the type of player the LB group needs. Like Vontaze Burfict he likely plummets here for off the field reasons. Let’s be smart like the Bengals and take him before someone else does.
 
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You think Shelton will be there in the 2nd ?

He certainly could. Lots of quality DTs who many project as 1st rounders fall into the 2nd round. Over the last five drafts there have been a number of DTs who many thought would be mid to late first rounders who actually went in the 2nd round. Here is a quick list of talented DTs who at one time were considered possible first rounders who ultimately fell into the second round over the last 5 drafts:

2014: Ra'Shede Hageman, Timmy Jernigan,
2013: Kawann Short
2012: Derek Wolfe, Jerel Worthy, Devon Still, Kendal Reyes
2011: Jarvis Jenkins, Stephen Paea
2010: Brian Price, Torrell Troup, Livinal Joseph, Terrence Cody
 
He certainly could. Lots of quality DTs who many project as 1st rounders fall into the 2nd round. Over the last five drafts there have been a number of DTs who many thought would be mid to late first rounders who actually went in the 2nd round. Here is a quick list of talented DTs who at one time were considered possible first rounders who ultimately fell into the second round over the last 5 drafts:

2014: Ra'Shede Hageman, Timmy Jernigan,
2013: Kawann Short
2012: Derek Wolfe, Jerel Worthy, Devon Still, Kendal Reyes
2011: Jarvis Jenkins, Stephen Paea
2010: Brian Price, Torrell Troup, Livinal Joseph, Terrence Cody


I was a big fan of Short, Wolfe and Worthy. My memory sucks but I don't think any of the ones you mentioned were considered top ten picks. Right now it seems as though Shelton is on the rise. All reports are that he's a great interview and has all the physical abilities of Haloti Nagata of the Ravens. Seems very unlikely he makes it to our pick in the second. If he did that would be great.


I also mocked Lockett in the 5th. I love him as a slot WR. You forgot to mention he is also a very good punt returner. His talent is better than a 5th but I'm hoping his small frame will drop him there.

Also like Lippet a lot. Lippet, Lockett, Hardy and Greene are all guys I would love to see replace our slot WR.
 
I was a big fan of Short, Wolfe and Worthy. My memory sucks but I don't think any of the ones you mentioned were considered top ten picks. Right now it seems as though Shelton is on the rise. All reports are that he's a great interview and has all the physical abilities of Haloti Nagata of the Ravens. Seems very unlikely he makes it to our pick in the second. If he did that would be great.


I also mocked Lockett in the 5th. I love him as a slot WR. You forgot to mention he is also a very good punt returner. His talent is better than a 5th but I'm hoping his small frame will drop him there.

Also like Lippet a lot. Lippet, Lockett, Hardy and Greene are all guys I would love to see replace our slot WR.

At one point Ra'Shede Hageman, Timmy Jernigan, and Terrence Cody were all considered top 10 picks. They dropped off as the season progressed.

These rankings are sol fluid that players rise and fall precipitously every year.
At one point Terrence Cody was also considered the next Ngata. Even Mister Cobble was once thought of as a shrewd late first round selection who eventually went undrafted.
 
At one point Ra'Shede Hageman, Timmy Jernigan, and Terrence Cody were all considered top 10 picks. They dropped off as the season progressed.

These rankings are sol fluid that players rise and fall precipitously every year.
At one point Terrence Cody was also considered the next Ngata. Even Mister Cobble was once thought of as a shrewd late first round selection who eventually went undrafted.

It is a fluid process & reason why Shelton has solidified himself w/1st rd. grade. Just flip 1 & 2 😉
 
It’s time to get back to the basics. Physicality is the name of the game. Tougher hard nosed teams like the Seahawks are beatiing down softer teams that rely on finesse. When he was hired bOb talked a good game about wanting a tougher, meaner, physical squad. In the 2014 draft, he used picks to become that more physical type of team. This mock continues that approach.


1. Jalen Collins, CB/S, LSU, 6’2, 195lbs, 4.48
An excellent DB prospect from DB U. He is a physical defender and would be a handful for many receivers. Could play as corner, nickel corner, or as a Free Safety. An instant starter at 3 positions.

2. Danny Shelton, NT/DT, Washington , 6’2. 339lbs, 5.29
A nasty 3-4 requires a mean NT up front who can neutralize the run and help to collapse the pocket. Shelton can certainly do that. He who bring a much needed physicality that has been lacking from the NT spot. Steps in right away and forms a formidible rotation with LNIII.

3. Paul Dawson, ILB, TCU, 5'10, 240lbs, 4.69.
Like Reggie Ragland(my initial selection until I was correctly alerted that he is heading back to school), Dawson is a great ILB prospect. He has a high motor and flies around the field. A little undersized, but could be a Zach Thomas type LB. A good hard nosed player who could start immediately.

4. Tony Lippett, WR, Michigan State, 6’3, 185lbs, 4.57
A good size receiver with good hands and crisp route running. Not the fastest, but should be able to be a quality #2 receiver. Will fight for the ball and has some quality blocking ability.

5. Tyler Lockett, WR/KR/PR, Kansas State, 5’11, 4.41
A superb athlete. Would be a great weapon as a slot receiver, kick returner, and punt returner. It is clear that Martin is not cutting it in the slot receiver or returner positions. Drafting Lockett gives bOB options and that is the key to his offense. Is not afraid of going over the middle and would be a great weapon out of the backfield.

6. Louis Trinca-Pasat, DE, Iowa, 6’2, 290lbs, 4.98
The need for a formidable DL continues and LTP would certainly help. While his linemate Carl Davis got all the headlines, LTP was more disruptive. He did a good job holding his line and was able to get more pressure on the QB than the more well known Davis. LTP is an under the radar type guy who has a good motor and would fit into the overall team dynamic of being a more physical team.

7. A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee, 6’2, 245lbs, 4.71
Yes, I am aware he has a few character red flags. BUT, he is a very high level Linebacker. He is athletic enough to play all 3 downs, he can sack the QB, is a force in the middle of the field, and can chase down runs. He is aggressive, mean, and the type of player the LB group needs. Like Vontaze Burfict he likely plummets here for off the field reasons. Let’s be smart like the Bengals and take him before someone else does.
I think none of the guys you mentioned at Nose are anywhere near as good as Shelton, flip 1 & 2. Then, I like Collins but don't think he ever started & although his 2014 stats were good, I am leery. Don't agree he is an instant starter & feel he would have to be out Bouye and Morris.

4 & 5 or great but I have Lippett mocked round three and here is an interesting article with his 40 at 4.4. http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/09/time_at_cornerback_quarterback.html

Not interested in AJ Johnson on field or off. Difference with Burfict, is the latter would terrify players on the field.

Enjoyed the read and hope you are correct on Shelton cause I'd love to use #16 for another player (Parker). Give me those two and I'll turn the draft off. (not really).
 
Not crazy about Jalen Collins, CB LSU, he rarely started at LSU. Landon Collins, S Alabama, would be a great 1st round pick.

But I like how this draft looks. Address huge needs and improves speed.
 
It is a fluid process & reason why Shelton has solidified himself w/1st rd. grade. Just flip 1 & 2 😉

Lot of feedback to flip 1 and 2.

Perhaps yall were right. I like the size and speed but perhaps he needs more refinement.

I think none of the guys you mentioned at Nose are anywhere near as good as Shelton, flip 1 & 2. Then, I like Collins but don't think he ever started & although his 2014 stats were good, I am leery. Don't agree he is an instant starter & feel he would have to be out Bouye and Morris.

4 & 5 or great but I have Lippett mocked round three and here is an interesting article with his 40 at 4.4. http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/09/time_at_cornerback_quarterback.html

Not interested in AJ Johnson on field or off. Difference with Burfict, is the latter would terrify players on the field.

Enjoyed the read and hope you are correct on Shelton cause I'd love to use #16 for another player (Parker). Give me those two and I'll turn the draft off. (not really).

I look forward to reading the article you posted. Thanks!
 
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