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I Luv The Guy, But Andre Is Done

Such short memories. It took many, many years and many, many failed attempts for the Texans to finally get a legitimate #2 receiver to go with Dre. Now that the Texans have two top flight receivers, some fans want to cut one of them so Rick can be a player in free agency to replace him. Let's see how Hopkins looks with the next Eric Moulds opposite him rather than Andre.

Does anyone remember "next man up" and "the backups are better than the starters" rationale? It was used to explain why cutting the right side of the oline and various linebackers and other starters/contributors during the great purge wouldn't hurt the team. Lack of depth and a drop-off in performance soon led to 2-14. "Lets replace Andre Johnson via free agency" has about the same ring to it.

Cutting Andre without a viable replacement is a money first approach, not a team-winning first approach.
To be fair, most attempts to get wr2 opposite AJ was left over FAs and a third round for Posey that many said "huh?" We spent a #1 and got a quality partner in Nuk.
 
oops, did you mean DeVante Parker from Louisville? Is he the very fast slot wr you were talking about?

Yeah, My mind is slipping. (Devante Parker.) You should check him out against Notre Dame. He's a stud. Good speed/hands and is hard to get on the ground. His strength is YAC.
 
Such short memories. It took many, many years and many, many failed attempts for the Texans to finally get a legitimate #2 receiver to go with Dre. Now that the Texans have two top flight receivers, some fans want to cut one of them so Rick can be a player in free agency to replace him. Let's see how Hopkins looks with the next Eric Moulds opposite him rather than Andre.

Does anyone remember "next man up" and "the backups are better than the starters" rationale? It was used to explain why cutting the right side of the oline and various linebackers and other starters/contributors during the great purge wouldn't hurt the team. Lack of depth and a drop-off in performance soon led to 2-14. "Lets replace Andre Johnson via free agency" has about the same ring to it.

Cutting Andre without a viable replacement is a money first approach, not a team-winning first approach.

I don't remember much effort or many attempts being made to upgrade the team at the starting WR position... By the way, Kevin Walter was a very good WR for us until his last season with us when he lost a step (which he couldn't afford to lose)... By the way, Kevin Walter was acquired for a 7 th round pick.

Surely your argument is not- don't ever let AJ go because Jacoby Jones never developed as we had hoped... That argument has more than a few holes.
 
I don't remember much effort or many attempts being made to upgrade the team at the starting WR position... By the way, Kevin Walter was a very good WR for us until his last season with us when he lost a step (which he couldn't afford to lose)... By the way, Kevin Walter was acquired for a 7 th round pick.

Surely your argument is not- don't ever let AJ go because Jacoby Jones never developed as we had hoped... That argument has more than a few holes.

Surely that isn't what I'm saying.

I am clearly saying in my opinion that Andre Johnson will be hard to replace at his current performance level, and his replacement cost is likely to be much higher than people think. No need to twist things or put other words in my mouth that are easy to argue against. I'm not playing that game.
 
To be fair, most attempts to get wr2 opposite AJ was left over FAs and a third round for Posey that many said "huh?" We spent a #1 and got a quality partner in Nuk.

And for completeness:

And a 3rd on Jacoby.

So I don't know what to make of this. I think you are saying:

The Texans historically have put other needs ahead of a second receiver and therefore spent years without two quality receivers.

If that is what you are saying, I have the following comments. If it isn't what you are saying, please clarify.

1) Does this mean we can expect that if the Texans release Andre, they won't even try to replace him because a second quality receiver is not important compared to all the other holes on the team?

If so, the Texans will be weaker offensively with Hopkins double covered all of the time because there is no other outside threat.

2) Or does it means the Texans have learned their lesson and will immediately draft a receiver with the first pick next year?

If so, and assuming the they hit on a good receiver (I'm giving Smith more benefit of the doubt than I have in the past five years), will he be at Andre's current level immediately? Probably not. In this scenario, the Texans have saved a lot of cap money. They have also spent a very valuable first round pick on replacing capability they already had in house. That valuable pick can't then be used to shore up another position of need. That certainly hurts the overall talent level of the team, which should be considered a huge cost in the cutting Andre Johnson balance sheet.
 
I don't remember much effort or many attempts being made to upgrade the team at the starting WR position... By the way, Kevin Walter was a very good WR for us until his last season with us when he lost a step (which he couldn't afford to lose)... By the way, Kevin Walter was acquired for a 7 th round pick.

Surely your argument is not- don't ever let AJ go because Jacoby Jones never developed as we had hoped... That argument has more than a few holes.

Surely that isn't what I'm saying.

I am clearly saying in my opinion that Andre Johnson will be hard to replace at his current performance level, and his replacement cost is likely to be much higher than people think. No need to twist things or put other words in my mouth that are easy to argue against. I'm not playing that game.

I don't know how you're going to win that argument. There's a fundamental difference on what a "very good #2 WR" is. He thinks there was a time when Kevin Walter fit the bill... OD was always more of a receiving threat than KDub... not really good for a "very good #2 WR"
 
I don't know how you're going to win that argument. There's a fundamental difference on what a "very good #2 WR" is. He thinks there was a time when Kevin Walter fit the bill... OD was always more of a receiving threat than KDub... not really good for a "very good #2 WR"

Kevin Walter did fit the bill for Kubiaks offense where blocking is required more than catching passes... but that don't mean KW was a quality NFL WR

Besides, it's like OD was the #2 WR and KW was the TE as far as production and roles went
 
I don't think we're expecting Hop's numbers to go down.... they'll each be getting 5+ catches a game, it's just where they'll be on the field when they get those catches that'll be different as we go further with a QB as aggressive as Mallet has been.

Look at his averages this season...

Washington....... 15.5 yards
Oakland............ 12.3 yards
New York.......... 6 yards
Buffalo ............. 11.8 yards
Dallas .............. 11.6 yards
Indianapolis....... 14.1 yards
Pittsburgh.......... 15.4 yards
Tennessee.......... 7.9 yards
Philladelphia....... 6.0 yards
Cleveland.......... 9.7 yards

& this is without a guy who can put it over his shoulder.

The Cleveland game would have looked much better if he had made a better timed jump on the intercepted pass. This one on one battle with the defender is usually his forte, but he got caught wrong footed that time. Perhaps he just needs to adjust to the ball arriving a bit quicker.

add 29 yards and a touchdown and subtract his lone interception

Ryan Mallett 20/30 211 2 1 10.55y/completion becomes
Ryan Mallett 21/31 240 3 0 11.42y/completion
 
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